First of all, you just made me break the number one rule of cB World Language Day. Shame on you guys.

Now,
That was a PM I got from Dee. It was originally in German, but that's the rough English translation.

Ok, since when was it against the rules to use foreign languages? I don't even see it on the Community Guidelines or Terms of Service.

I was warned, allegedly for "spamming in The Lounge." Do you guys honestly think I'm low enough to just randomly spam in The Lounge? Everything was closed and deleted before everything could be explained. Did you guys already forget the rule on deletion we JUST MADE YESTERDAY? ARE YOU DAFT?

If you would've actually read my topics, they were completely legit. My first one, which you mods should've read before you even thought about closing anything, was an explanation of cB World Language Day. My second was about heritage, which even had legit responses (I remember Joanne's specifically), but was deleted anyway.

You guys, this is disappointing. Especially since we just went over this.

Haha, you need to translate at a different place. You PMed me in German, so I replied in German.

I warned you because you made multiple topics.

What's wrong with making multiple topics if they're all legit? I've made a lot more consecutively in English.

Hmm, yeah I don't see the problem here. I agree with funky Juna.

It was part of forum rules, that were deleted some time ago. This was brought up before, i could find it for you, but laziness has kicked in. but foriegn languages are not, nor ever been allowed here.

What's taking you guys so long to respond? Do you guys always have to discuss things Backstage before doing anything?

I want to know every single mod that just handled cB World Language Day, and what exactly they did.






cB doesn't care about world culture.

If it was deleted, then how the hell would I have known it wasn't allowed? wtf kind of logic is that

And actually, foreign languages have been allowed before. Refer to the "culture" clubs like the Chinese club and stuff. Tina and I tried looking for it, but to no avail. I guess it got lost when Suzzette deleted everything.

Nothing's relevent to cb world language day is being discussed backstage?

It's 2:30 in the AM, give people a break Arjuna

^x2 I'm with Juna on that one.

If it was one thread, I would've been ok with it. I deleted 16 topics.

Ok, I can't vouch for other people's topics, but I can guarantee you that my topics were legit. Since when was making multiple topics that are NOT spam, in turn contributing to cB, against the rules? You guys have still failed to answer this.

Because Createblog is an English website?

That's it?


Since when does cB being a English website mean you must strictly use ENGLISH ONLY? That's awfully nazi-like.

If that's the case, then everybody should have to use proper English no?

LOL, so this is why Prince was banned, EH?

No, as long as it is english, since most users understand even bad english, improper english is fine

What about Chinglish or Engrish?


Look, the point is, you can't just have a ban on foreign languages like that. And you especially can't go around warning and deleting topics by members who weren't even aware that English is the only language they could use because the rule's not even written down anywhere.

I don't think the problem was that you were warned for making foriegn language topics, its that you were spamming which is clearly written in your log anyway.

The problem with a foriegn langage topic, or post is how are other people supposed to understand really? How many registered users do you think speak arabic? maybe 1% not even.. so why make a topic saying something in arabic. sounds pointless, and spammy, which is against the community guidelines.

Mind the spelling errors.

That's why we have this:

http://translate.google.com/translate_t

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the person who wrote "spamming" in my log made a mistake? The warn logs are not flawless, you know, nor are they very detailed. It's hard to go on something that just says "Spamming in The Lounge."

Just because it was written in my log doesn't mean it's fact.

You are so cruel to the minorities.




Favor: Can you guys please recover my topic on heritage? It's the one with the French title. Something along the lines of "Embrace Your Inner Fob!"

You guys have been here for a long time. Look around at all the other topics, they are in English.

I already said that if you guys hadn't made 16 topics that I wouldn't have had a problem. If you wanted to make posts in different languages, then do it in one thread. Don't cover the Lounge in other languages.

Juna poses a legit argument. I like to ask why this topic of mine wasn't close as well?

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...=206234&hl=

It was in Vietnamese.

^ it should have been, my best guess is that it died quickly, so no one really made it a point to close it. However, English is still the only language allowed.

I've been around here for 2 years and haven't seen any rules that say we must use English. How do I assume that I can only speak in English by observing that? Also, for the record, foreign languages have been used before, I've already said that.

About the multiple topics: I already asked what's wrong with making several legit topics several times.



I'm replying here, because I don't want to ruin my foreign language streak out there.

No thank you. You know how messy it's gonna me if we have all of our topics contained in one topic? Everyone's going to get confused.




You guys keep going in circles. It's kinda like this picture:


Just doesn't make sense.


Statements like this just make me cringe. *cringe*

I'm being frank and nice with you, and supporting both sides of this debatacle. However, I hoped you did not pull that rule out of your sweet firm juicy ass, because I would like to see a quote of Terms of Service on this.

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=207185

Did you guys even read my topic that I actually took the time to translate single handedly into English for you?

You guys are killing the whole spirit of the event by containing it like this. It's meant to be a cB wide celebration.

Ok mods, I just added a new rule for cB World Language Day since it seems y'all still have your panties in a bunch and all.
Having to do anything like this shouldn't be necessary at all, but I know how you mods work.


By the way, as relevant or irrelevant as it may be, Javonn made the interesting observation that it's only been Caucasians that reject the idea of cB World Language Day. Huh?





Before anyone says anything, this isn't a double post because it was made a nice time after the latest post.

english is the only language allowed? where is that stated?

你們極為愚蠢和可怕地殘忍。

does this mean i should be banned now?

Im pretty disappointed that the mads keep saying that english is the only language allowed. people use korean and japanese on the official kpop and jpop club and I dont think Jusun [admin] would mind other languages given the fact that he is of more than one culture. I think there shouldnt be any warning for using different languages afterall has anyone complained about people using other languages?. Its a matter of respect that I think all Cbers understand, I mean America dosent only speak english , we're diverse like cb and you cannot tell people to not come to this site because of the language they prefer Im pretty dissapointed at many of the quotes from the mods. what happened to cb is a democracy?

RACIST MODS

karmakiller you sack of shit, why do you send me a PM but have me blocked from responses?



No choice but to warn me eh? What the f**k is wrong with you? You don't have free will/judgment skills? When you see a foreign language, are you overcome by the urge to warn people, just like when you see a penis, you are overcome by the urge to place it in your mouth and start sucking on it like the whore you are?

^^ you went to far.. lol

omfg...
this is for only one DAY...
let us have some fun
HELP THE COMMUNITY

wtf at english is the only language accepted?

cB isn't a democracy?

Did most of you objecting Dee's actions actually see all the topics in the lounge last night? All the topics in Asian characters were truly obnoxious looking (no racial implications, thank you); when it was one it was fine, when there were two it was ok, when there were 15 that was more of an issue. And truthfully it would look like spam and only serve to isolate most of the community, because we have no real way of communicating in those topics even if we want to. You all know perfectly well that online translators really don't work very well. Removing those topics was not about asserting English's superiority over other languages, or anything like that, it just was actually what made the most sense at the time.

ps cB World Language Day was not created until after most of those topics were created

Before Suz deleted the forums, there was a topic in the Lounge for forum rules. It did state to not use any other languages or other language characters on the forums. But considering those are gone and I've seen people write in other languages I figured it wasn't that big of a deal anymore.

In all honestly, I just don't see it being done enough to completely exclude it from the forums. Perhaps we need some place where people can write what they want in other languages. I don't think there should be topics upon topics made in other languages, because then we could be separating the community more, which I don't think is needed. Perhaps we can use AC's idea of having a day where people can post openly in another language.

If anything, I believe almost all of you are OM's which means you can do almost whatever you want in the VIP lounge, so why not just do it in there?

Maybe we should do what Tung suggested in a former post which is to make a Forum based on other languages.
There-fore it can be a win-win situation?
Juna can get the languages into CB
and the mods wont have to worry about it being spammed in the lounge?

I was thinking of a Sub-forum, but I think it would be to much for something like this. The only way I could see doing anything like it is to have a Culture sub forum or something along those lines and people can talk in other languages or talk about other cultures and what appeals to them about it.

Like a "Cultural Diversity" sub-forum in Lifestyles?

Yeah

Yea something like that XD

Or maybe posting in other languages can actually be an incentive for getting to post in the VIP lounge? It doesn't really seem like there's any real point to making new forums when there's potentially comparable forums already going more or less unused.

if your saying that we can post them in the VIP lounge, then that wouldnt make much sense
not everyone is VIP obviously and what if the Non-VIP members want to post in other languages?

Im for a Cultural Diversity Forum

Well then maybe it would give everyone more incentive to work their little fingers to the bones to make great posts to become a Official Member :D

Ive been working my bones and im only at 700 something XD

lols, good job though! 249 more to go!

To be honest though, most of the people that are doing these types of things are OM's, so if we could move on from this thing without doing any changes then I would say for everyone to post their other language posts in the VIP lounge.

But that could get kind of messy and a lot of people might not like it.
Therefore if its a new section in Lifestyles then people can have the choice to ignore it or not

I know I'm coming out of nowhere with this, but I happent o like this idea very much opposed to sending all the foreign langauage threads to the VIP lounge because it will become more of a clutter. As Tomates said, its a win win situation. Don't like it, don't have to go into the sub forum.

Let's think about this realistically. Is this foreign language trend really going to last long enough to justify its own forum? Subforums notably attract many fewer posters than other forums do, so chances are the appeal of a subforum geared towards typing in foreign languages won't outlast its novelty. Whereas being able to post other languages in the VIP lounge should serve as incentive to keep posting, which of course we want you to do. Make new topics, stimulate conversations in other topics, and if you actually have something to contribute you are welcome to bump older topics as well (hard to believe, but there was a time when people would make >200 posts a day). As it is, the VIP lounge has become something of a joke, so really just posting in other languages in there sounds like a much better idea. We just went through a whole ordeal concerning forum reorganization, so I doubt Jusun (lol) would appreciate adding another underused subforum.

When I studied for my Italian final by posting in Italian, I kept most of it to the VIP lounge and it was not an issue. Some people participated too. If foreign languages are too much clutter for the VIP lounge, which is rarely used anymore, it makes no sense to just put it somewhere else.

Thats makes a good point. *looks at the Sports forum* Being that I barely go into the VIP lounge, [/guilty], I guess it wouldn't hurt putting it in there. Language didn't seem like a problem on cB until now, anyway. *shrug*

Nicki makes a good point in that a trend doesn't merit a subforum.

However, if people ARE desperate to post in whatever languages, whether they want to practice, or just have a change, I would point them to the Official [language] Threads which are still in the School forum. Chat there, and leave the rest of the forum in Egnlish.

But obviously no one really knows about the Language stuff in the school section.
Therefore if theres a sub-forum that more people could potentially know about then it will settle more controversies?

We can't just add a subforum as a solution to every fad.