Tomates
Jul 23 2008, 10:52 PM
Ok So im curious to know if anyone has ever gotten caught by your internet provider or whatever from torrenting things.
so about near the beginning of the school year of 07-08 i torrented a bit. Not much just 1-2 episodes once a week.
My dad was a bit of a heavy downloader, he downloaded movies mainly for him and my mom to watch.
(he didnt sell them at all)
Though one night around 1am on a school night my dad comes into my room saying that Charter ,which is our internet provider, sent an e-mail saying that they have been watching his computer and such and what he has been downloading and gave him a firm warning.
We dont know which computer it was since all of our computers in the house are in a way connected to one so we can transfer to each.
So after that i havent downloaded anything since. I want to...but i cant.
but overall im just wondering if anyone else has had this happen to them before and if so did you keep downloading?
I know my friend had this happen to him and his dad but they keep downloading. We havent since, or from what i know of. I think the bastard is downloading things behind my back.
Also are there any programs that work to hide IP adresses?
Also Also im not sure if this is in the right section. And if theres another post like this Sorry but i swear i did the search and didnt find anything else on this situation
9001
Jul 23 2008, 10:55 PM
They can't legally do anything about you downloading torrents. That has to be brought up with the owner of whatever you're stealing.
Also, proxy.
karmakiller
Jul 23 2008, 11:34 PM
What an invasion of privacy. It's messed up that they would notice a thing like that (they have a lot of customers) and also odd that they would call you and "warn" you about it. I use torrents a lot, because I'm cheap and they're easy.

but my share ratio is pretty good.
Tomates
Jul 23 2008, 11:41 PM
Yeah i did think it was a bit of invasion of privacy
especially since the email said that they would scan my computer or whatever.
Im not sure how true it was but it was fun spending the hour of my school night trying to delete all evidence of the torrent.
Aberisk
Jul 24 2008, 12:28 AM
charter is wack, switch to verizon fios!:]
nikx618
Jul 24 2008, 01:28 AM
woaaah. that's scary. but not really for you,
since your dad does it all the time. haha.
but, daamn. thats craazy. has anyone got into
trouble for limewire?
Tomates
Jul 24 2008, 01:30 AM
QUOTE(nikx618 @ Jul 24 2008, 02:28 AM)

woaaah. that's scary. but not really for you,
since your dad does it all the time. haha.
but, daamn. thats craazy. has anyone got into
trouble for limewire?
lol yeah. I mean my dad didnt download that much maybe 1-2 movies plus shows
but he also did them more at the night when the servers were more clear which is probably the reason why we got caught
nikx618
Jul 24 2008, 01:32 AM
QUOTE(Tomates @ Jul 23 2008, 11:30 PM)

lol yeah. I mean my dad didnt download that much maybe 1-2 movies plus shows
but he also did them more at the night when the servers were more clear which is probably the reason why we got caught
oh wow. that's scary. lmfao. im not gonna
try &download cs3 anymore. not like i was
going to o.O but yeeah. i didnt know servers
could like catch you like that, daaamn. xP
Tomates
Jul 24 2008, 01:55 AM
dont let it scare you.
My dad downloaded a bit everyday and had long downloads.
I would just becareful.
I mean its a pretty big coincidence that they targeted us out of a few hundred possible people.
just bad luck
Just_Dream
Jul 24 2008, 03:06 PM
Wow I've never gotten caught for torrents. Of course if I was at school, that would be a different story because they will recognize that kind of connection when you're on a school network.
However, if you're too scared, you can always use IRC. IRC is actually really fast, as long as you are able to find the right person to download from. I seriously was getting speeds of 1000KB (1MB) a second for a 700 MB drama file. 700/60 = 11-ish minutes, which was really fast considering I am downloading from another person (or well, XDCC packlist from a bot). IRC is like a chatroom where you can download files from people, but I don't think anyone has gotten caught for that yet... ?
ChangeofHeart
Jul 24 2008, 03:46 PM
Yeah Ive been caught but they can't even touch you.
It's like a dog tied to a tree, All it can do is bark, While the robber runs free.
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
Jul 24 2008, 04:46 PM
howw daa fukk u ppl gittt cauut..
Gryffindor-Girl
Jul 24 2008, 05:09 PM
Nope never been caught for something like that.
QUOTE(ChangeofHeart @ Jul 24 2008, 04:46 PM)

Yeah Ive been caught but they can't even touch you.
It's like a dog tied to a tree, All it can do is bark, While the robber runs free.
Also that has got to be one of the best sayings ever.
Tomates
Jul 24 2008, 05:14 PM
hm. I should try to convince my dad to download again.
Gryffindor-Girl
Jul 24 2008, 05:20 PM
QUOTE(Tomates @ Jul 24 2008, 06:14 PM)

hm. I should try to convince my dad to download again.
Maybe or to just change your internet service provider. Something like Comcast or Verizon fios would be good they have millions of customers so I am pretty sure that it would be least likely to single you out.
9001
Jul 24 2008, 05:21 PM
Also, what's your connection type?
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
Jul 24 2008, 05:26 PM
QUOTE(Tomates @ Jul 24 2008, 06:14 PM)

hm. I should try to convince my dad to download again.
HAHAHHAHA
u gittaa bb kiddeen...
nevaa lurrnn huh...
QUOTE(Gryffindor-Girl @ Jul 24 2008, 06:20 PM)

Maybe or to just change your internet service provider. Something like Comcast or Verizon fios would be good they have millions of customers so I am pretty sure that it would be least likely to single you out.
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synkro
Jul 26 2008, 03:08 AM
if you're with a cable company, they'll be monitoring the amount you download and upload. they know when you UPLOAD too much for too long. the reason they know you're downloading is 'cause you upload while you download via torrents, and usually you'd leave the computer just downloading/uploading for hours. technically, you're allowed unlimited download, but they have limits on uploads.
when they realize you're an uber torrenter, they'll send you a warning, and they might even cap your speed.
Aerjae
Jul 26 2008, 03:35 AM
noo... i havn't been caught yet with either torrent nor limewire even though i already downloaded like... 3817304710374 songs and 2387873 movies already.
NerdNinjax
Jul 28 2008, 06:33 PM
i know a lot of people got caught from there interent provider from downloading movies . its pretty common
decaydancefbr
Jul 28 2008, 06:47 PM
That's gay how they invade your privacy like that. They should have a right to if they have probable cause like a search warrent. My ISP is like that but they do it to scare you but they don't do anything about it. I don't really download torrents. I download .rar's from rapidshare and crack the files. Or I use file2hd.com to download undownloadable songs off of myspace players.
coconutter
Jul 28 2008, 06:51 PM
www.tv-links.cc
I use that instead of downloading movies, not always effective, but better than dying.
I only download CDs, but I reformatted, so blah to them. I use peer guardian though, it should help I suppose.
libertie
Jul 28 2008, 07:48 PM
I had a co-worker who got caught pirating Mac software (or it may have been Tiger itself) - he was caught because he was seeding. He was contacted by Apple and had to apologize and promise never to do it again. xD
mipadi
Jul 29 2008, 05:36 AM
QUOTE(decaydancefbr @ Jul 28 2008, 07:47 PM)

That's gay how they invade your privacy like that.
It's not really invasion of privacy per se. ISPs don't (or can't) examine
exactly what you're doing online; instead, they just watch for traffic patterns. For example, if you're downloading hundreds of megabytes of data a day, and much of it overnight, and you're also uploading hundreds of megabytes of data,
and you're not doing it over Port 80, you're probably using BitTorrent.
fire
Jul 29 2008, 07:01 AM
wtf is that Sasuke and Naruto kissing?
nitrogoat
Jul 29 2008, 07:14 AM
I've heard about this, it's just another way through which they're trying to crack down on illegal downloading. However, your ISP cannot cancel your internet for it.
mipadi
Jul 29 2008, 09:08 AM
QUOTE(nitrogoat @ Jul 29 2008, 08:14 AM)

However, your ISP cannot cancel your internet for it.
Unfortunately, yes it can. Internet access isn't a right, and your ISP can choose at any time to drop you as a customer.
sleepwalkerdreams
Jul 29 2008, 04:30 PM
Shoot, that's scary. :| Probably most of the content on my computer is torrented. xD
synkro
Jul 29 2008, 06:37 PM
QUOTE(nitrogoat @ Jul 29 2008, 02:14 AM)

I've heard about this, it's just another way through which they're trying to crack down on illegal downloading. However, your ISP cannot cancel your internet for it.
so naive ;o
QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 29 2008, 04:08 AM)

Unfortunately, yes it can. Internet access isn't a right, and your ISP can choose at any time to drop you as a customer.
'tis true. i got off with a warning, right after they capped my download speed. but another strike, and they would've either let me go and/or "called the proper authorities".
decaydancefbr
Jul 29 2008, 06:47 PM
QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 29 2008, 06:36 AM)

It's not really invasion of privacy per se. ISPs don't (or can't) examine exactly what you're doing online; instead, they just watch for traffic patterns. For example, if you're downloading hundreds of megabytes of data a day, and much of it overnight, and you're also uploading hundreds of megabytes of data, and you're not doing it over Port 80, you're probably using BitTorrent.
I guess so, but I think what you download is your business. Like, they can't warn you by your traffic thing if you download hundreds of Megabytes. There are a lot of big files out there like ReFx Nexus, FL Studio, ReFx Vanguard, Norton, Adobe and all that.
So they just like accuse you by how much you download a day?
synkro
Jul 29 2008, 09:35 PM
^ it's based on a combination of factors. he mentioned UPLOADING, too. usually ISPs claim to let you have unlimited download, but they never offer unlimited UPLOAD. a lot of bt users upload all night while downloading.
decaydancefbr
Jul 30 2008, 12:25 PM
^ Oh snap, that's crazy.
nitrogoat
Jul 30 2008, 01:49 PM
Erm, naive? Hahaa
No im pretty certain you're warned and won't have your internet cancelled- they'll just charge you f**kLOADS for all your downloads.
Come on... get with the times. Accessing music is pretty easy, a lot of sites hand it to you on a plate and all you need is a bit of creative thinking.
Gryffindor-Girl
Aug 3 2008, 02:07 PM
good thing I don't use my bit torrent application allot. So in that case I don't upload as often.
superstitious
Aug 3 2008, 02:58 PM
I sort of space out downloads, so that I'm not downloading a lot at in one period of time. I also try not to seed, although my conscience gets the best of me if I'm always leeching and never seeding, so I'll seed if it's small or seed in small amounts.
It really depends though. The only torrents I typically would download these days are comics and they are pretty small, unless it's a DCP pack or something and even then, you can pick and choose which files to download.
yaamakoh
Aug 11 2008, 08:54 PM
Well no, it's not possible to get caught using torrents. Read the disclaimer on private torrent sites.
"None of the files shown here are actually hosted on this server. The links are provided solely by this site's users. The administrator of this site (www.bitsoup.org) cannot be held responsible for what its users post, or any other actions of its users. You may not use this site to distribute or download any material when you do not have the legal rights to do so. It is your own responsibility to adhere to these terms."
So in other words... it's sharing. And sharing is caring right?... well nevermind that.
Comcast recently got a lawsuit filed against them for monitoring users download and upload capacity, especially against file sharing. I was reading it a while ago, but the Supreme Court ruled that Comcast should not be allowed to monitor their peers any longer, since it is an invasion of privacy, and since you are paying for the service monthly no interruption is necessary. Optimum Online in my area also removed capping of consistent uploads like somebody mentioned before, since they too where monitoring consistent upload speeds that disrupt the bandwith. I'm not sure if it was to whether compete with fios, or do to customer complaints, but they removed it.
If you're paying for your monthly service, you should not be restricted to download or use your bandwith in whatever means necessary. Since Comcast is the largest cable provider in the company, and they got cracked down first, all of the other businesses should soon follow up too.
With Fios getting bigger and bigger, and more companies competing, and more customers complaining, you'll only notice faster speeds in your download and upload as well as limitless bandwith. (Doesn't apply to rural areas where only one service is available though... since yeah they basically have you on a leash)
But man, once my provider optimum online removed their restrictions on internet... it's just been smooth sailing :).
Just be smart about it. It's okay to leave the things you download on your harddrive, external, whatever. But when you send out your computer for repair, to the geek squad, or anything make sure you delete everything first... thats basically the only way you can get caught. Monitoring is illegal, and as of right now with the ruling from the fcc, it's up to the customers discretion of how they may be able to use their bandwith, not the providers.
It's pretty recent too.
"http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/INTERNET_REGULATION?SITE=AZMES&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT"
Just my two cents... most of it was opinionated, but the bandwith regulation is true.
meloco32
Aug 12 2008, 05:50 AM
I got caught by Lions Gate, Paramount, ESA, and the MPAA all in the same week and all saying i have 24 hours to respond... I didn't and nothing happened. Started using Peer Guardian and stopped getting caught. Also if your paranoid encrypt them with truecrypt.
Tomates
Aug 12 2008, 05:54 PM
QUOTE(libertie @ Jul 28 2008, 08:48 PM)

I had a co-worker who got caught pirating Mac software (or it may have been Tiger itself) - he was caught because he was seeding. He was contacted by Apple and had to apologize and promise never to do it again. xD
Yeah thats what kind of happened to us. Only i dont know if we were seeding or not and it was charter.
But yeah the funny thing is my mothers friends Husband got caught too and he is a lawyer which is kind of funny to me atleast.
Though he keeps downloading still.
divergent
Aug 12 2008, 06:29 PM
Never caught for torrenting. Since I don't use torrents. Or any counts of illegal downloading. Though my internet service provider has threatned to not let any of our computers use the internet. Claiming that one of the computers on our network has a virus. blah blah blah.
So, we really can't mess up, next time they have to put a block on us, it will be permenent, and where I live, apparently, its the only ISP that will service us. :\
Glamourouz
Aug 31 2008, 08:17 PM
I've never gotten caught but I have heard about others getting warned about how much they download but not what they were downloading...
MolecularStudios
Aug 31 2008, 08:24 PM
Limewire Ftw
mystline
Sep 1 2008, 06:35 PM
Yes, they have actually.
We got caught 3 times. our ISP is going to turn our internet off the next time we got caught.
BUT THE THING IS, the first time we got caught was for downloading some movie that NOBODY in the house downloaded. Kinda weird. >.>;
The second time was my stepdad, downloading some movie. Then the third time was me, downloading a licensed anime. LOL I didn't think they care for that. Now I'm kind of scared to download anything too because our next is a suspension from it and we have to switch to DSL. I have downloaded some UNLICENSED anime and haven't got caught, yet, but since they're recent, I immediately move them to my external hd. Anyway, I'm not sure if this works (I have windows vista so I can't try), but this blocks your IP supposedly.
http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 29 2008, 03:36 AM)

It's not really invasion of privacy per se. ISPs don't (or can't) examine exactly what you're doing online; instead, they just watch for traffic patterns. For example, if you're downloading hundreds of megabytes of data a day, and much of it overnight, and you're also uploading hundreds of megabytes of data, and you're not doing it over Port 80, you're probably using BitTorrent.
Really? They told us the file names, too.
Plus, I limit my uploading limit on BitComet as well as my downloading.
MolecularStudios
Sep 1 2008, 08:29 PM
I hate limewire now

I have
this virus
Hedonism
Sep 1 2008, 08:42 PM
You know, it feels as though that violates some amendment.
I may be wrong.
Tomates
Sep 1 2008, 08:49 PM
QUOTE(Hedonism @ Sep 1 2008, 09:42 PM)

You know, it feels as though that violates some amendment.
I may be wrong.
actually i kindof know what you mean.
Feels like invasion of privacy even though we do something illegal XD
MolecularStudios
Sep 1 2008, 09:02 PM
I think it is
Just_Dream
Sep 2 2008, 06:34 PM
QUOTE(MolecularStudios @ Sep 1 2008, 06:29 PM)

I hate limewire now

I have
this virus
lol, PWNed.
I still haven't gotten caught yet. :D
Is it possible to get caught on IRC? I hope not. :P
Hedonism
Sep 2 2008, 07:53 PM
QUOTE(Tomates @ Sep 1 2008, 09:49 PM)

actually i kindof know what you mean.
Feels like invasion of privacy even though we do something illegal XD
You know what they say:
Two wrongs don't make a right.
I don't believe that shit out all lol.
superstitious
Sep 4 2008, 09:13 AM
QUOTE(MolecularStudios @ Sep 1 2008, 08:29 PM)

I hate limewire now

I have
this virus
I used limewire once. I did not get a virus, but I don't care for the limeware system and it has a reputation for not being very safe. I wouldn't say what I use.
demonoid
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