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brooklyneast05
does anyone have bad lower back pain? if so do you have any kind of tip or trick that helps it?


help a jc out
9001
I have bad back pain. Usually stretching helps me.
karmakiller
Stretching is always good. What kind of back pain is it? Like a muscle ache or more in your spine? I would say use a heating pad, because that's what my brothers do, haha.
brooklyneast05
yeah i have been stretching like crazy. like a whole damn program thing from the doctor, but it's not helping me so far.

QUOTE(karmakiller @ Jul 15 2008, 10:11 PM) *
Stretching is always good. What kind of back pain is it? Like a muscle ache or more in your spine? I would say use a heating pad, because that's what my brothers do, haha.

it's like pressure on my nerves in my spine =/
karmakiller
I merged your posts. Damn, how long have you been trying to follow this doctors program? Maybe it just needs a little more time for it to get better.

Where's Reidar? He should reply here so I can stop making a fool of myself.
Reidar
Stop stretching so much. Spine flexibility should not be emphasized until the spine has stabilized and has undergone endurance and strength conditioning. There is little quantitative data to support the idea that a major emphasis on trunk flexibility will improve back health and lessen the risk of injury. In fact, research has shown that greater spine mobility has been associated with low back trouble.

Stability needs to come before flexibility. Tissue damage results in joint laxity, which stretching further encourages.

Stuart McGill, professor of spine biomechanics at the University of Waterloo, poses a lot of criticism for many physicians in advocating general stretching/exercise programs without taking into account the individual's specific circumstances. Take that as you will.

You should not do any movement that has an emphasis on back flexion after you wake up. Bed rest reduces the applied load (hydrostatic) below the disc osmotic pressure, resulting in a net inflow of fluid that leaves you susceptible to injury.

When you lift something, always keep your back in a tight arch.

You should never do sit-ups, which throw most of the torque directly onto your back.

Here are some sample stability (not flexibility) exercises:

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shadowfax
I remember getting a pamphlet of exercises from my doctor when I found out about my scoliosis but I lost it. I've just been keeping active. Stretching is huge for me. As is a little bit of yoga at home. I also lay flat on my back to straighten it out after any strenuous exercise.
brooklyneast05
QUOTE(Reidar @ Jul 15 2008, 10:33 PM) *
You should never do sit-ups, which throw most of the torque directly onto your back.

i haven't been doing sit ups for a long while because of that. do you have any idea of a good exercise to replace that though? i've been looking for ab/"core" exercises that will put the least possible strain on my back for a long time.

and thanks for all your other info in your post.
karmakiller
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Reidar
QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jul 15 2008, 10:39 PM) *
i haven't been doing sit ups for a long while because of that. do you have any idea of a good exercise to replace that though? i've been looking for ab/"core" exercises that will put the least possible strain on my back for a long time.

and thanks for all your other info in your post.


Janda sit-ups, which remove the problem with regular sit-ups (hip flexor recruitment), and slow, strict crunches.

Also, if you go to a gym, full-contact twists.
brooklyneast05
thanks. i do go a gym, so i'm gonna test that out and see how it feels.
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
bakkpainn bietch..

dun sitt att u beedd n luouuchh... shifty.gif laugh.gif shifty.gif
QUOTE(Reidar @ Jul 15 2008, 11:46 PM) *
Janda sit-ups, which remove the problem with regular sit-ups (hip flexor recruitment), and slow, strict crunches.

Also, if you go to a gym, full-contact twists.

numbaa 1 dun look lykee dat ginnaa halpp..

thaa numbaa 2.. maibii.. buttt numba 1 aintt ginnaa duu shiet.. mellow.gif
Reidar
QUOTE(PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL @ Jul 16 2008, 01:24 PM) *
numbaa 1 dun look lykee dat ginnaa halpp..

thaa numbaa 2.. maibii.. buttt numba 1 aintt ginnaa duu shiet.. mellow.gif


You think so?
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
lool... justt alll sitt upp aintt ginnaa makk u look lykee dat mangg..

n dat pic weakkk..

karmakiller
Prince, stop spamming. And that pic probably turned you on.
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
u wakk orr sumthang...

princc saii all situpp aintt ginnaa makee himm look lyke dat.. HOWW DA HELL DA SPAMMEN.. huh.gif huh.gif stubborn.gif...

n yezz dat pic week... shoo thaa musclee bigg n shiet.. butt thaa boddyy justt musclee.. no goodd musclee formm..
brooklyneast05
if you aren't talking about my back pain, then you're spamming in my opinion princey
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jul 16 2008, 11:02 PM) *
if you aren't talking about my back pain, then you're spamming in my opinion princey

laugh.gif ...

nott realli... reidarr givv u tipp withh da numba 1 n 2 workkoutt da halpp u backk painn.. i saii numbaa 1 aintt ginnaa halpp..

denn hee putt picc.. whichh meenn he da furstt da spamm.. iff aniithangg.. tell himm da stopp spammen.. stubborn.gif mellow.gif whistling.gif
Tung
QUOTE(Reidar @ Jul 16 2008, 01:55 PM) *

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Reidar
QUOTE(PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL @ Jul 16 2008, 10:01 PM) *
princc saii all situpp aintt ginnaa makee himm look lyke dat


They're not supposed to.

Janda sit-ups are among the most functionally sound because they remove emphasis of the psoas attachment by referring to the principle of reciprocal inhibition, which says that the nervous system relaxes the muscles opposite the ones contracting as a matter of efficiency. More emphasis on the abdominal muscles and less on the hip flexors and back is thereby attained.

Also, I recommend this book. The author is Dr. Stuart McGill, a professor of spine biomechanics at the University of Waterloo. I've been in contact with him for over a year, and he's a human encyclopedia on kinesiology.
MissFits
Commercials tell me aleve helps.
But, my boyfriend has terrible back pain from being a tattoo artist and constantly being bent over. Acupuncture helps if you have insurance to see a trained specialist, but if not drugs work.
Vicodens, percocets, even darvocet would probably help you since you don't take drugs. Darvocet won't even f**k you up like most pain medications.
MiSSP
U might want to go to the doctor if it's really bad could have damaged a nerve or something...I also have really bad back pains well that could be cuz im pregnant but I just lay on my side and on a body pillow and pop some Tylenol that usually works for about an hour or two then i just deal with it.. But yea good luck lol.
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
u gottt cammcorrdurr reiidurr.. shifty.gif shifty.gif
QUOTE(Reidar @ Jul 17 2008, 12:37 AM) *
They're not supposed to.

Janda sit-ups are among the most functionally sound because they remove emphasis of the psoas attachment by referring to the principle of reciprocal inhibition, which says that the nervous system relaxes the muscles opposite the ones contracting as a matter of efficiency. More emphasis on the abdominal muscles and less on the hip flexors and back is thereby attained.

lool... duddee teellenn summ ppll da try datt shiett wenn dey gitt bakk painn aintt ginnaa workk..

princc usedaa git bakk painn alll da tymee.. noww.. nevaa happenn.. princc dun gittaa duu demm shiett.. justt diz n dat.. BAM.. alll goodd da goo..

YUP... chinaa seecrreett... shifty.gif mellow.gif
MiSSP
QUOTE(PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL @ Jul 17 2008, 08:47 AM) *
u gottt cammcorrdurr reiidurr.. shifty.gif shifty.gif

lool... duddee teellenn summ ppll da try datt shiett wenn dey gitt bakk painn aintt ginnaa workk..

princc usedaa git bakk painn alll da tymee.. noww.. nevaa happenn.. princc dun gittaa duu demm shiett.. justt diz n dat.. BAM.. alll goodd da goo..

YUP... chinaa seecrreett... shifty.gif mellow.gif


Im not trying to be rude or anything but isn't it annoying typing like that lol?
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
bakk painnn aintt bigg deell..o ye.. wenn u bigg n shiet.. dat shiett ginnaa b hardd.. tongue.gif tongue.gif
QUOTE(MiSSP @ Jul 17 2008, 08:50 AM) *
Im not trying to be rude or anything but isn't it annoying typing like that lol?

uhh u rudee ritee noww... stubborn.gif stubborn.gif
MiSSP
I was being dead ass.
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
u bein dead wat... howw boutt u takk u advvicee n typppeee nurrmoll... stubborn.gif


@OP... stopp wurrkenn outtt nub... suu u noo gitt no moo bakk painn.. tongue.gif
MiSSP
QUOTE(PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL @ Jul 17 2008, 09:11 AM) *
u bein dead wat... howw boutt u takk u advvicee n typppeee nurrmoll...


How was I not typing normal. " I was being dead ass" As in I was being serious.
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
ohh ye.. NEVAA EVURR trydaa crakk u bakk... stubborn.gif
QUOTE(MiSSP @ Jul 17 2008, 09:14 AM) *
How was I not typing normal. " I was being dead ass" As in I was being serious.

soriii princc dunnoo boutt da reeddnekk slangg... laugh.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif
MiSSP
QUOTE(PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL @ Jul 17 2008, 09:16 AM) *
ohh ye.. NEVAA EVURR trydaa crakk u bakk... stubborn.gif

soriii princc dunnoo boutt da reeddnekk slangg... laugh.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif



Lol. I live in richmond doesn't mean i'm from richmond so get it straight.
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
u tryda crakk u bakk.. u bakk ginnaa hurrtt laturr..
QUOTE(MiSSP @ Jul 17 2008, 09:18 AM) *
Lol. I live in richmond doesn't mean i'm from richmond so get it straight.

GOOD... daa farr awaiii u livv frumm princc... da betturr... laugh.gif

u lykee datt ASH-lynn gurl... keepp talkenn da princc... haha.. shifty.gif

ahem..

MiSSP
QUOTE(PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL @ Jul 17 2008, 09:23 AM) *
u tryda crakk u bakk.. u bakk ginnaa hurrtt laturr..

GOOD... daa farr awaiii u livv frumm princc... da betturr... laugh.gif

u lykee datt ASH-lynn gurl... keepp talkenn da princc... haha.. shifty.gif

ahem..

ooookay i have no idea what that last part says but im just going to nod and say okay!
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
howw boutt u nodd n GTFOO... stubborn.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

@OP... goo daa summ chinaa placc yuu.. demm chynkk goodd aatt fixenn backkpainn.. laugh.gif
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