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AsH-lYnn
how do you feel about a guy on the down low[dl] vs. a gay/bisexual male.how do you feel when you look at it thought society's eyes...




[[if this was posted before sorry i didn't see it]]
NoSex
Could you please clarify your question? I'm not exactly sure what "da low" is.
DoubleJ
I think that people being on the dl is find. I happen to know a lot of people who are that way, and I have no problem with it. In today's society, gays are starting to become more accepted, but not at the fast rate that lesbians are. It is very hard for a man to come out, because they are generally thought to not do things like that. For a long time in society, it was thought to be taboo, and in some instances, it still is...but with more gay television characters, shows, etc., I think that less and less people will be on the dl.
AsH-lYnn
QUOTE(NoSex @ Jul 14 2008, 11:40 AM) *
Could you please clarify your question? I'm not exactly sure what "da low" is.



down low...

gay but not fully out about it...

QUOTE(DoubleJ @ Jul 14 2008, 11:48 AM) *
I think that people being on the dl is find. I happen to know a lot of people who are that way, and I have no problem with it. In today's society, gays are starting to become more accepted, but not at the fast rate that lesbians are. It is very hard for a man to come out, because they are generally thought to not do things like that. For a long time in society, it was thought to be taboo, and in some instances, it still is...but with more gay television characters, shows, etc., I think that less and less people will be on the dl.




but what about the guys dat do it with another guy [[keep in mind he has a wife]] and gets some unknown thing from him...like AIDS...you don't think it would've been better for him to have just come out...
DoubleJ
I hate to be blunt, but that is a risk that guys who do that take. I mean I know that it is super hard for people to come out. Imagine a black guy coming out to his family as opposed to a white person. That would be hella hard to do.
Sandraaa
I don't get the topic. How do we feel about sexual orientations? What does 'down low' have to do with being bi or straight?

Also, how do you expect us to compare 'on da low guys' with 'straight guys'? I seriously don't get it.
Joannnnnne
I think what she means is those who are still in the closet vs. those who are straight out gay/bi.


Ashleigh, it would help if you rephrased your question. It's just confusing people.
AsH-lYnn
^^
yeah that what i meant...

here i'll edit it...
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
ppll dun caree boutt inn r outtaa clossiist...
QUOTE(AsH-lYnn @ Jul 15 2008, 02:40 PM) *
^^
yeah that what i meant...

here i'll edit it...

LOOL... EY ash... u winnaa uff summ guyy hurr ezz gaayy rite.. shifty.gif shifty.gif..

dat y u makk dizz thrrad... tongue.gif
AsH-lYnn
yeah i wanted to know if you were alil on da fruity side...
brooklyneast05
i don't understand what we're debating about
AsH-lYnn
gay guys vs. guys that are on the downlow...meaning their living normal straight guy lives but actually like other men...

seriously how do ya'll not understand this...
brooklyneast05
because i don't get how this is a DEBATE. are we debating which is right and which is wrong?

"how we feel" about something doesn't make this fit into debate.
AsH-lYnn
do you think a guy should come out and just say "i gay world live with it..."


or a guy to just sneak around and maybe catch something and give it to his potential wife/girlfriend...
AsH-lYnn
QUOTE(AsH-lYnn @ Jul 16 2008, 03:14 PM) *
do you think a guy should come out and just say "i gay world live with it..."
or a guy to just sneak around and maybe catch something and give it to his potential wife/girlfriend...



which means it is [[in my opinion]] a debate.


oops sorry for the double post...
brooklyneast05
QUOTE(AsH-lYnn @ Jul 16 2008, 05:14 PM) *
do you think a guy should come out and just say "i gay world live with it..."
or a guy to just sneak around and maybe catch something and give it to his potential wife/girlfriend...


i think that he should do whatever he wants to do. if someone doesn't wanna come out then they don't wanna come out. as far as the this topic, i don't think the issue is whether he is out or not, the issue is whether he is cheating on someone or not. do i think it's alright to cheat on people? no.

and no i still think this belongs in relationships not debate. maybe someone will come in here though and tell us why they are for cheating on people.
karmakiller
I'm little confused as to why this is a debate, too. I think that if he knows he's gay and decides to marry a women and raise children with her that he's not only not being honest with her, but he isn't being honest with himself.

As far as if a person wants people to know their orientation, it's up to them. I know some people who don't want people to know, and a few gay men who are out there and have pride.
AsH-lYnn
ok well move i guess i don't know...
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
DL gayy orr gaayy bothh da samee.. maibii lill difff...
QUOTE(AsH-lYnn @ Jul 16 2008, 05:31 PM) *
yeah i wanted to know if you were alil on da fruity side...


QUOTE(AsH-lYnn @ Jul 16 2008, 08:18 PM) *
ok well move i guess i don't know...

LOOL... nextt tymmee.. u winnaa noo sumthangg boutt da princc.. PM orr postt sumthangg u NUB... noo needdaa sneekk arounn.. shifty.gif shifty.gif

EY ash.. u winnaa noo..iff PRINCC gaayy orr nott... shifty.gif shifty.gif _smile.gif
AsH-lYnn
no its not...


sure...why not...
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
DL gaayy lookk kindaa sadd.. opeenn gaayy lookk happii.. _smile.gif
QUOTE(AsH-lYnn @ Jul 16 2008, 11:07 PM) *
no its not...
sure...why not...

2 badd.. u aintt gittenn SQUAAADD... laugh.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif
AsH-lYnn
and you know because your gay...right... console.gif its alright gay people are coo too...
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
gaayy ppll cooll.. DL gaayy hardaa tellll fuu shoo.. _unsure.gif
QUOTE(AsH-lYnn @ Jul 16 2008, 11:18 PM) *
and you know because your gay...right... console.gif its alright gay people are coo too...

lool... u saddd datt princc gaay eh.. haha..

guezzz u kantt gitt withh princc.. shifty.gif shifty.gif _smile.gif
MiSSP
I don't think it matters whether or not someone is on the dl unless they take it to the extreme ex: getting married to a women and ect then its just ridiculous, gay people want the right to get married to each other but some are marrying women and it's scary if you think about it you could be falling in love with a man who isn't even attracted to you...
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
EY ashh.. noww u thradd got debatee bout DL vs gay or bi.... wink.gif
QUOTE(MiSSP @ Jul 17 2008, 09:05 AM) *
I don't think it matters whether or not someone is on the dl unless they take it to the extreme ex: getting married to a women and ect then its just ridiculous, gay people want the right to get married to each other but some are marrying women and it's scary if you think about it you could be falling in love with a man who isn't even attracted to you...

summ ppll aintt readdii da openn uppp...

aintt da guyy faulltt... butt da gurll faultt fuu nott findinn outt da guyy ezz gaayy.. stubborn.gif shifty.gif
MiSSP
QUOTE(PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL @ Jul 17 2008, 09:09 AM) *
EY ashh.. noww u thradd got debatee bout DL vs gay or bi.... wink.gif

summ ppll aintt readdii da openn uppp...

aintt da guyy faulltt... butt da gurll faultt fuu nott findinn outt da guyy ezz gaayy.. stubborn.gif shifty.gif


How is she going to find out if he's gay or not... if a girl is going with a guy she automatically assumes he's straight other-wise why would he go with her, u feel me so that's not going to be a regular question a female is going to ask a male. "Oh by the way hun are you gay???"
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
QUOTE(MiSSP @ Jul 17 2008, 09:11 AM) *
How is she going to find out if he's gay or not... if a girl is going with a guy she automatically assumes he's straight other-wise why would he go with her, u feel me so that's not going to be a regular question a female is going to ask a male. "Oh by the way hun are you gay???"

wenn da gurll 20 n upp.. aintt harddaa teelll summ guyy ezz gaayy orr nott..

uff u kantt telll denn u shoulddntt daatee... tongue.gif shifty.gif

HEREE aa hintt...:GAAY guyy lykee da lookk pretttyyy n summ prettii goodd lookkin... shifty.gif shifty.gif
MiSSP
QUOTE
wenn da gurll 20 n upp.. aintt harddaa teelll summ guyy ezz gaayy orr nott..

uff u kantt telll denn u shoulddntt daatee...




Thats bull, because some guys you wouldn't even know are gay they're on the DL, they have a wife kids everything but go out on their day off to get it up the ass and their wife never knew so what are you talking about you can tell if someones gay or not. Not all gay people are flamers.
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
QUOTE(MiSSP @ Jul 17 2008, 09:16 AM) *
Thats bull, because some guys you wouldn't even know are gay they're on the DL, they have a wife kids everything but go out on their day off to get it up the ass and their wife never knew so what are you talking about you can tell if someones gay or not. Not all gay people are flamers.

welll... wenn u goo outt n gottt gaayy buddii.. u kann telll wenn summ guyy gayyy milee awaii...

gurlzz lyke guyzz

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age25-GOOD LOOKIN..GOTT $..

AGE30-GOOD LOOKIN..GOTT $.. lykee kidzz..goodd wiithh famillii..

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MiSSP
QUOTE(PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL @ Jul 17 2008, 09:20 AM) *
welll... wenn u goo outt n gottt gaayy buddii.. u kann telll wenn summ guyy gayyy milee awaii...

gurlzz lyke guyzz

age18-GOOD LOOKIN..

age25-GOOD LOOKIN..GOTT $..

AGE30-GOOD LOOKIN..GOTT $.. lykee kidzz..goodd wiithh famillii..

^ifff gaayy guyy kann pulll dem stufff offf... shee ginnaa falll fuu himm.. n shee b 2 busii chekinn demm stufff outt datt shee ainntt ginnaa gitt tymee da noo he gaayy orr nott.. shifty.gif shifty.gif



That's very stereotypical i don't know where you live but in America anyone can be gay. Every day people ones who are construction workers, police officers,dudes who have a wife and kids, they don't have to be flashy OK do you not get that ur startin to get on my nerves with the oh you'll know if someone is gay or not just by talking to them . Read this then shut up OKAY? biggrin.gif

http://gaylife.about.com/cs/mentalhealth1/qt/dltip.htm
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
QUOTE(MiSSP @ Jul 17 2008, 09:26 AM) *
That's very stereotypical i don't know where you live but in America anyone can be gay. Every day people ones who are construction workers, police officers,dudes who have a wife and kids, they don't have to be flashy OK do you not get that ur startin to get on my nerves with the oh you'll know if someone is gay or not just by talking to them . Read this then shut up OKAY? biggrin.gif

http://gaylife.about.com/cs/mentalhealth1/qt/dltip.htm

uhh princc livv enn da crackkaa countrii... stubborn.gif laugh.gif ..

LIISTEENN NUB... dunn mattta uff da gayy guyy goodd att hidenn.. u kann telll uff sum guyy gayy madd eaziii.. cuzz princc gottt gayy buddieezz n dey alll cooll @ss h3ll.. soo thaa no hatenn..

diz wat u lookk fuu..

-da voiicee...
-da walkk...
-da handd... lykee howw deyy movee da handd arounn n shiet..
-wattchh da eyee.. lykee roolll da eye n shiet..
-saii OMGoshh... omgoosh...EWW ewww ewww...
-runn funnii...
-wenn u aa guyy n gitt hitt bii demm.. hahaa..

enn da enndd... gurlzz needda b loveee... n wenn da guyy showw datt.. da gurl kantt c datt da guyy ezz gaayy cuzz shee to busii fallenn fuu himm n dun addmiitt datt hee gaayy..
MiSSP
QUOTE(PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL @ Jul 17 2008, 09:36 AM) *
uhh princc livv enn da crackkaa countrii... stubborn.gif laugh.gif ..

LIISTEENN NUB... dunn mattta uff da gayy guyy goodd att hidenn.. u kann telll uff sum guyy gayy madd eaziii.. cuzz princc gottt gayy buddieezz n dey alll cooll @ss h3ll.. soo thaa no hatenn..

diz wat u lookk fuu..

-da voiicee...
-da walkk...
-da handd... lykee howw deyy movee da handd arounn n shiet..
-wattchh da eyee.. lykee roolll da eye n shiet..
-saii OMGoshh... omgoosh...EWW ewww ewww...
-runn funnii...
-wenn u aa guyy n gitt hitt bii demm.. hahaa..

enn da enndd... gurlzz needda b loveee... n wenn da guyy showw datt.. da gurl kantt c datt da guyy ezz gaayy cuzz shee to busii fallenn fuu himm n dun addmiitt datt hee gaayy..



Like I said before stop being so stereotypical.
NOT ALL GAY MEN ARE FLAMERS. AKA WHAT U JUST LISTED ..THE WALK THE TALK THE HAND EVERYTHING. How old are you by the way? Because you're not thinking out of the box and I was just wondering what your excuse was I really hope you're like 15 or something.
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
QUOTE(MiSSP @ Jul 17 2008, 09:39 AM) *
Like I said before stop being so stereotypical.
NOT ALL GAY MEN ARE FLAMERS. AKA WHAT U JUST LISTED ..THE WALK THE TALK THE HAND EVERYTHING. How old are you by the way? Because you're not thinking out of the box and I was just wondering what your excuse was I really hope you're like 15 or something.

LOOL... trydaa gitt princc agee huh.. ENN u dreem FUU.. tongue.gif tongue.gif

TRUSTTT moi... alll gaayy guyy ginnaa makk mistakk sooonn... u gittaa keepp watchenn outt fuu demm signn... hehe..

howw boutt u showw princc howdaa thinkk outt da box.. shifty.gif
MiSSP
QUOTE(PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL @ Jul 17 2008, 09:47 AM) *
LOOL... trydaa gitt princc agee huh.. ENN u dreem FUU.. tongue.gif tongue.gif

TRUSTTT moi... alll gaayy guyy ginnaa makk mistakk sooonn... u gittaa keepp watchenn outt fuu demm signn... hehe..

howw boutt u showw princc howdaa thinkk outt da box.. shifty.gif



Impossible i already showed you proof that you can't tell that some guys are gay and you still think what you want so, it's whatever :)
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
laugh.gif... princc almooss c da fingurr.. butt dat justt shhh.. lol.. nvm..

howw boutt u showw princc howw u noo summ guuyy ezz gaayy.. u shoo talkk allott..rolleyes.gif
MiSSP
QUOTE(PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL @ Jul 17 2008, 09:50 AM) *
laugh.gif... princc almooss c da fingurr.. butt dat justt shhh.. lol.. nvm..

howw boutt u showw princc howw u noo summ guuyy ezz gaayy.. u shoo talkk allott..rolleyes.gif



I know alot of gay guys. and some of my guy friends may be gay i'm not sure. the point of being on the down low is so that no one knows that they're doing it. And i know i talk alot sue me.
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
QUOTE(MiSSP @ Jul 17 2008, 09:54 AM) *
I know alot of gay guys. and some of my guy friends may be gay i'm not sure. the point of being on the down low is so that no one knows that they're doing it.
And i know i talk alot sue me.

NOO SHIETT shirrlockk...

princc allreedii givv u alll da shiett u needaa finee outt huu gaayy orr wat... takee dat or noo dun mattaa..

WATTCHH... wen u git marrii.. princc ginnaa LOL wenn dat guyy ezz gayyy.. HAHAHAHA tongue.gif tongue.gif
MiSSP
QUOTE(PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL @ Jul 17 2008, 09:57 AM) *
NOO SHIETT shirrlockk...

princc allreedii givv u alll da shiett u needaa finee outt huu gaayy orr wat... takee dat or noo dun mattaa..

WATTCHH... wen u git marrii.. princc ginnaa LOL wenn dat guyy ezz gayyy.. HAHAHAHA tongue.gif tongue.gif


I'm engaged.
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
u lykee wat.. 15... lol.. dat y u dunnoo howw daa telll huu gayy n shiet.. tongue.gif

MiSSP
QUOTE(PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL @ Jul 17 2008, 10:00 AM) *
u lykee wat.. 15... lol.. dat y u dunnoo howw daa telll huu gayy n shiet.. tongue.gif


I'm 19.
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
damm u repllii bakk quix.. lool.. crazy.gif crazy.gif eek.gif

yupp.. 19 sttilll lill gurll... tongue.gif..

u needaa goo outt moo n u c datt madd eazzii da telll hu gaayy hu aintt..
MiSSP
QUOTE(PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL @ Jul 17 2008, 10:02 AM) *
damm u repllii bakk quix.. lool.. crazy.gif crazy.gif eek.gif

yupp.. 19 sttilll lill gurll... tongue.gif..

u needaa goo outt moo n u c datt madd eazzii da telll hu gaayy hu aintt..



Lol. K. I don't care who's gay as long as my mans not :) K thanks. And i agree with you on some parts....The gay men who we know to be gay yes we can tell that they are gay. But the ones we can't tell are gay don't have to be flamers ok? And that was my point with arguing with you just trying to get across that not all gay men are flashy and feminine. And men who are on the DL means that they consider them selves to be straight they have a wife and kids but they still go and have relations with other males. They don't think of themselves as gay.. OKAAAAAy you argue too damn much tongue.gif
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL
QUOTE(MiSSP @ Jul 17 2008, 10:07 AM) *
Lol. K. I don't care who's gay as long as my mans not :) K thanks. And i agree with you on some parts....The gay men who we know to be gay yes we can tell that they are gay. But the ones we can't tell are gay don't have to be flamers ok? And that was my point with arguing with you just trying to get across that not all gay men are flashy and feminine. And men who are on the DL means that they consider them selves to be straight they have a wife and kids but they still go and have relations with other males. They don't think of themselves as gay.. OKAAAAAy you argue too damn much tongue.gif

dey noo dey gaayy.. deyy dunn winnaa addmiitt datt alll..

lykee princc saii.. shoo thaa othaa gaayy da goodd att hidenn.. buttt keepp watchenn n u catchh demm..
MiSSP
QUOTE(PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL @ Jul 17 2008, 10:12 AM) *
dey noo dey gaayy.. deyy dunn winnaa addmiitt datt alll..

lykee princc saii.. shoo thaa othaa gaayy da goodd att hidenn.. buttt keepp watchenn n u catchh demm..

read this and then zip it okay lol

http://www.oprah.com/tows/slide/200404/200...040416_01.jhtml
AsH-lYnn
QUOTE(PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL @ Jul 17 2008, 05:59 AM) *
lool... u saddd datt princc gaay eh.. haha..

guezzz u kantt gitt withh princc.. shifty.gif shifty.gif _smile.gif



yeah thats it...oh well i guess i can't like like you anymore...:shrug.gif:



wow what a convo ya'll have had...


actually in my opinion both of ya'll are right...some guys you can tell by the way dey walk talk and mess but you can't just leave it on that because deres some guys at my school who talk just like that and act all gayish and whatnot but their not...well not to my knowledge anyway...but some guys are really good at hiding shrug.gif
paperplane
QUOTE(AsH-lYnn @ Jul 16 2008, 08:18 PM) *
ok well move i guess i don't know...

ok, good. This really isn't a debate topic.

moved to relationships
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