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demolished
QUOTE(Joannnnnne @ Aug 12 2008, 05:43 PM) *
Like Gigi said in the other thread, is there any proof that China cheated? If there was any suspicion that they did, the officials would have taken over and investigated everything.





It really really pisses me off when people just jump into conclusions about China. Yes, it's a communist country, but does this have anything to do with the Olympics? f**k that.


QUOTE(demolished @ Aug 11 2008, 07:03 PM) *
somehow, i cant trust China and their winnings?


QUOTE(demolished @ Aug 12 2008, 05:04 PM) *
Yes, cheating ruins my entire perspective for communist China's sports. How could their government let it slide? ;[



I didn't say they cheated, but there was suspicions otherwise it wouldn't be display in worldwide. When the media publicize their suspicions, it does ruin my perspective.

With that question mark indicated in my post earlier, I didn't push the claim that it was true which means I wasn't sure if I could trust them with their winnings with their young competitors that looks like their body are still developing.

When the media are putting China down WHILE china put so much money into the Olympic, it confuses me. China was able to make such a great worthy event which pleases people.

At the same time, the media is putting them down. If the government didnt have anything with the competitors, why are they letting it slide by not defending them or do something (not that i heard of)? That's makes me so confused.

Why would such a economical country spend so much money into one thing and then they got a bad reputations for their competitors.


Maybe a communist country may possibly have anything to do with the Olympic? They were the ONE who host it since communism can pretty do anything they want OVER the people's will. As you know, I'm not very bold on this part.


and sorry to make you mad. _unsure.gif
brooklyneast05
WOOHOO PHELPS, HISTORYYYY
hi-C
The American women killed it on uneven bars.
hi-C
This 800 relay isn't even right. The Americans SMASHED that record.
brooklyneast05
that shit was crazy, we were so far ahead. it was a wrap after phelps started it off
hi-C
That lead that Phelps gave wasn't even right. The other competitors looked like turtles compared to it/him/the US team.
brooklyneast05
look at this chinese girl right now, there is no way that girl is 16 years old. she looks 10 wtf
hi-C
She really does. Even if she's a gymnast, she's just way too small to be (15 going on) 16.
towntown2
Btw, did anybody hear about this yet?
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/b...?urn=oly,100152
Joanne
Okay I was watching the womens gymnastics... sure the Chinese gymnasts look young, but pretty much all Asian girls look super young for their age PLUS they're gymnasts. And all female gymnasts are petite as hell.

But meh, I'll admit I might be a bit biased and refuse to believe they lied about their ages.
salcha4u
Old...but the Phelps/Lezak 4x100 relay blew my mind :O
Umm I watched badminton for a bit...pretty intense.
demolished
QUOTE(Joannnnnne @ Aug 12 2008, 09:50 PM) *
Okay I was watching the womens gymnastics... sure the Chinese gymnasts look young, but pretty much all Asian girls look super young for their age PLUS they're gymnasts. And all female gymnasts are petite as hell.

But meh, I'll admit I might be a bit biased and refuse to believe they lied about their ages.

I dont know if you're talking to me, but i'll reply.

I think you may also be right about Asian girls do look younger than their age in general. The western media may not be familiar with a 16 years old looking girls. I mean, how much young Asians do you see on tv? Not much, but they are breaking into it the media, but there's no young Asian girls in it. I think it's also the factor that leads to accusation because the population of u.s isn’t mainly Asians. Of course, it's easy to make assumption to someone's age when you never seen them, see any familiar faces, or connect with them.


Growing up in California, I had never seen these darn young Asian girls.


and oh yeah, being skinnier does make people younger too.

Joanne
Haha, I wasn't talking to you... just thinking out loud. =]

It's not just the Asians... I think Shawn Johnson looks freaking young (but maybe it's just her height), and same with that Russian girl! *searches her up...* Ksenia Semenova. Yeah, she looks like a little kid.
salcha4u
^Haha Shawn Johnson does not look 16 at all...but

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iijykFV...oXwVkQD92H6NCG3

NoOOOoooooooooooo
Tung
Haha, China's win in gymnastics will only fuel more controversy about the girls age. _unsure.gif

Lol @ USA for choking.
hi-C
The US choked hard. Especially Alicia Sacramone. Shawn Johnson was excellent, for the most part (except she when stepped out of bounds during the floor exercise).
datass
what is the age limit for female gymnasts?
Gigi
^ 16

QUOTE(demolished @ Aug 12 2008, 11:10 PM) *
I dont know if you're talking to me, but i'll reply.

I think you may also be right about Asian girls do look younger than their age in general. The western media may not be familiar with a 16 years old looking girls. I mean, how much young Asians do you see on tv? Not much, but they are breaking into it the media, but there's no young Asian girls in it. I think it's also the factor that leads to accusation because the population of u.s isn't mainly Asians. Of course, it's easy to make assumption to someone's age when you never seen them, see any familiar faces, or connect with them.

Growing up in California, I had never seen these darn young Asian girls.


and oh yeah, being skinnier does make people younger too.

Agreed. From my own personal observation, I know of some girls that look that young, even in my own school. There are constantly 10th graders that look that young, and they're all Asian. I mean, look at Cheng Fei (the oldest girl on the Chinese Team). She's 20, but she could definitely pass as 16. On the other hand, a lot of the white girls look like they're 20! Holy crap. And also agreed with them being skinny - a lot of girls that are skinny even from a young age don't develop as quickly as other, more meaty girls.

The suspicion is valid though. And although only the passports count as proof of their age - I'm sure that if there was enough suspicion, more investigation would have been done. Also, I highly doubt that China would do something as shameful as that, because we all know how important it is for them to not lose face, especially on the international stage.

The Chinese want the Olympics to be PERFECT, and this would be a terrible dirty mark on their otherwise good record. As much criticism as China (constantly) gets for their government policies, environment, toxic crap in random toys (lol), I have to say that the Olympics have been a great success so far.

QUOTE(hi-C @ Aug 13 2008, 06:04 AM) *
The US choked hard. Especially Alicia Sacramone. Shawn Johnson was excellent, for the most part (except she when stepped out of bounds during the floor exercise).
Was Alicia Sacromone the girl that fell off or something? She looked like she wanted to cry the entire time after that. I felt really bad for her. Although, Cheng Fei on the Chinese team bombed it too. The two teams were super close though - but the Chinese pulled through on the uneven bars. That one girl was flippin' AWESOME.

QUOTE(towntown2 @ Aug 12 2008, 01:45 PM) *
-gasp-
I love Phelps' face!

Thorpe shouldn't have retired so early in my opinion.
He could've competed in this Olympics too.

To each his (...her) own. And Ian Thorpe - better to quit while you're ahead, I think. If he competed this time, it would've sucked to be constantly compared to Phelps.
Gigi
Sorry for the double post (can't edit right now for some reason).

But I was TOTALLY wanting Canada to win at least one medal in the diving event today. BUT NOO. Jesus. I just want us to win ONE MEDAL, be it Gold, Silver, heck, even Bronze. Despatie is a killer diver, but his 37-year-old partner bombed. wtf. The Chinese team was ahead Russia like...38 48 points or something. That's just wrong.
Teesa
QUOTE(Gigi @ Aug 13 2008, 10:14 AM) *
Was Alicia Sacromone the girl that fell off or something? She looked like she wanted to cry the entire time after that. I felt really bad for her. Although, Cheng Fei on the Chinese team bombed it too. The two teams were super close though - but the Chinese pulled through on the uneven bars. That one girl was flippin' AWESOME.


yep, she's the one who fell and the team in general made little mistakes here and there. they deserve their silver.
xoxo_proud
I feel bad for Alicia. She must feel terrible.

So they have to be 16? Or can they be 15 going on 16? Because when one of the Chinese girls did the vault they put her age as '15' on the TV screen.

Gigi
^ I think it was that you have to be 16 in that Olympic year. So, your birthday can be in December (and therefore you'd be 15 in August), but as long as you will be 16 in 2008, then it's fine.
towntown2
The U.S. was doing a great job. Especially Nastia Liukin.
But then maybe the pressure got to them.
It was kind of sad to watch.

Sacramone's actually really good.
But they got silver, so it's not all bad.
Glamourouz
Track & Field...mainly to see my old boo...he's running in the 400m for the U.S. Virgin Islands...
firechild
Im watching swimming, the water over them is like a wake almost
omg.gif
salcha4u
Sacramone held her emotions well, even though it was obvious she was about to cry.

Watching swimming right now too...LOCHTE AND PHELPS!!!!
fire
Bitches, did anyone see how Australia owned in the womens 4x200m freestyle?
salcha4u
I saw that...world record too.
firechild
Did you see that guy that fell off the rings?
SuckDickNSaveLives
http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-Olympic...K33138320080814

ohmy.gif Am I reading that wrong. Federer lost to blake.


USA basketball dominated Greece. Knew that team was a fluke.
hi-C
QUOTE(xSyncx @ Aug 14 2008, 09:39 AM) *
Did you see that guy that fell off the rings?
YES. I laughed. My mom looked at me like I was a horrible person.
firechild
I hope he didn't break his arm. :(
firechild
Its kind of sad that they're pushing kids this little to do stuff this big.
Gigi
QUOTE(hi-C @ Aug 14 2008, 07:58 AM) *
YES. I laughed. My mom looked at me like I was a horrible person.

LOL! Reminds me of the time I said that I liked it when figure skaters during the Winter Olympics f**ked up their jumps and landings (specifically, Sasha Cohen. Oh, how I loathe her). Does that make us bad people?

I JUST watched that guy on TV right now - it's too bad, he is such a cutie.
hi-C
QUOTE(Gigi @ Aug 14 2008, 12:26 PM) *
LOL! Reminds me of the time I said that I liked it when figure skaters during the Winter Olympics f**ked up their jumps and landings (specifically, Sasha Cohen. Oh, how I loathe her). Does that make us bad people?
It just shows that we have an indiscriminate sense of humor.

And I don't like Sasha Cohen either happy.gif
xoxo_proud
Congrats to Nastia, Shawn and Yang (hopefully I spelled all of the names right =D)

They all did great! I feel bad for the girl who fell on vault. That must have hurt.
Melie
QUOTE(xoxo_proud @ Aug 15 2008, 12:03 AM) *
Congrats to Nastia, Shawn and Yang (hopefully I spelled all of the names right =D)

They all did great! I feel bad for the girl who fell on vault. That must have hurt.


it's funny but that girl that fell got bronze anyway.
hi-C
^ That's not the one that fell, I don't think... =\

AND YAY!!!! NASTIA!!!!! yahoo.gif
Teesa
QUOTE(Teesa @ Aug 11 2008, 10:53 PM) *
michael is a BEAST.


OMG.
Gigi
QUOTE(Melie @ Aug 14 2008, 10:05 PM) *
it's funny but that girl that fell got bronze anyway.

She didn't fall, it was the other Chinese girl (Jiang Yuyuan). The girl who won Bronze was Yang Yilin. They weren't even wearing the same outfit...or the same color eyeshadow. LOL.

Totally thought Shawn Johnson was gonna take the gold! She's so feisty.
salcha4u
I thought Johnson was gonna take gold too...I kinda think the scoring is rigged though. CHINA IS NOT THAT GOOD. I would have thought Russia or Romania would have gotten a higher score.

Both my parents and I laughed when she fell on the vault. Then my dad laughed some more at their ridiculous eyeshadow.


Also...what would the US do without Phelps?
fire
Wow, Phelps is hot.
Gigi
The Russians and Romanians, while technically alright, f**ked up some bits and really didn't have much of the elegance and lightweight feeling that the medalists had. And the Chinese girl WASN'T that good - that's why she got Bronze.

wtf is with all the China hate?!
datass
its just not the most lovable country right now.
firechild
They are communist after all.
and they have kids my brothers age in the olympics!
like 9-11 Year old kids in gmynastics
Joanne
QUOTE(xSyncx @ Aug 15 2008, 09:10 AM) *
They are communist after all.

stubborn.gif
firechild
^what do you mean by that?
Joanne
I get annoyed with people just bring up China being a communist country for no reason.

And the girl is reportedly 14, not 9-11. If the FIG or IOC aren't going to do anything about it, I don't see what the big problem is. They could easily strip her of her medal like they did to the North Korean shooter. If the officials believed that these claims of fake ages are true, they would further investigate the situation.

Sure, someone argued earlier that the passports are accepted proof of the gymnasts' eligibility and that China could have easily changed their ages because the passports were made in China. But then it's also very easy for OTHER countries to change their athletes' ages too. I honestly think people are only targeting China because it's CHINA.
Gigi
^ Yeah, and then their reason is that they're Communist.

And I'll say it again, I don't hate y'all because George Bush is a dumbass.
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