berrypop90
Oct 20 2008, 09:39 PM
Just watched the new episode. Hiro & Sylar =
Mohinder's one crazy ass mofo. Poor Maya, girl can't get a break.
You know, not much got done in this most recent episode. It was really slow. Hopefully next week is better. Peter's powers got taken away by his horrible father! Bastard.
shanaynay
Oct 20 2008, 09:39 PM
I thought it was awesome. but mostly hiro getting hit a few times made me laugh.
hi-C
Oct 21 2008, 12:16 PM
Well. That explains a lot. No, I'm serious. Regarding Arthur Petrelli. It's safe to believe that Sylar and Peter and Nathan are really brothers.
Tung
Oct 21 2008, 12:17 PM
Only Sylar can stop Arthur Petrelli now!!!
superstitious
Oct 21 2008, 12:31 PM
QUOTE(hi-C @ Oct 21 2008, 12:16 PM)

Well. That explains a lot. No, I'm serious. Regarding Arthur Petrelli. It's safe to believe that Sylar and Peter and Nathan are really brothers.
I never really questioned it. xD I love how Sylar is a momma's boy now. Actually, I just love Sylar period.
I was wtfing at Adam Monroe. He was one of my FAVORITES GODDAMMIT.
So I guess that makes Arty a Rogue type (from X-Men). Or the Anti-Peter?
hi-C
Oct 21 2008, 12:38 PM
That upset me too, I love David Anders!
I don't think that makes him the Anti-Peter. It's just... Peter's power, reinterpreted. Arthur is like Peter + Sylar, with the power absorbing and the destructiveness. Unless you mean "anti" like the whole foil thing. Hmmm... Sylar's still more of an anti-Peter than Arthur is, IMO.
Hey... if Sylar had figured out Peter's power, wouldn't that have made him lose his "hunger"? Or would he not need to figure it out since the two powers cancel each other out?
Edit: That's bullshit, how are they going to kill the unkillable man?
And does that make Peter completely normal or did Arthur just absorb the powers that Peter had learned, leaving his first power behind?
superstitious
Oct 21 2008, 12:54 PM
Oh I meant in the idea of anti being opposite (of Peter).
If he were to only absorb Peter's learned abilities and leave his inherent ability, than Adam would not have crumbled since he took Adam's inherent ability (of regen). So I think that he completely Rogue's it (absorbs all abilities) minus Rogue's life force absorption. lol I read too many comics. haha
I'm not sure if I've imagined this, but it seems like the clock ticking noise that accompanies Sylar sometimes has completely stopped and I could swear it played while Peter was on screen or something. I'll need to re-watch the last 3 episodes. If so, then I would say that Sylar has control over his hunger, perhaps due to him learning Peter's behavior and the empath has, in turn absorbed Sylar's ability with all it's grotesque side effects (the hunger).
So would that mean that Peter's pop would have that hunger? Because, that dude's an ass as it is. lol
hi-C
Oct 21 2008, 01:18 PM
QUOTE(superstitious @ Oct 21 2008, 01:54 PM)

I'm not sure if I've imagined this, but it seems like the clock ticking noise that accompanies Sylar sometimes has completely stopped and I could swear it played while Peter was on screen or something. I'll need to re-watch the last 3 episodes. If so, then I would say that Sylar has control over his hunger, perhaps due to him learning Peter's behavior and the empath has, in turn absorbed Sylar's ability with all it's grotesque side effects (the hunger).
You're right, it's only been happening with Peter lately. You know, since Sylar killed Jesse. But he didn't do the brain-y thing with Peter. Whenever you see him now, he's sitting in whatever lotus-Indian style position. I think it's more like he's practicing meditation instead of learning Peter's powers

I'm looking forward to learning why Arthur faked his death/was incapacitated.
Tung
Oct 21 2008, 01:21 PM
That's stupid how Adam Monroe died. Shouldn't his powers just be sucked, and he as no more abilities? Wouldn't Peter turn to ashes too then? Heroes need to stay consistent.
superstitious
Oct 21 2008, 01:43 PM
Well, except that Peter is still
young. There's a bit of a Dorian Gray aspect to Adam's demise. Once Adam's powers were removed, he returned to the form that he otherwise would have been (without his regenerative powers) - ashes.
Because I'm not sure who may or may not be familiar with Oscar Wilde's
The Picture of Dorian Gray, I'll give some sparknotes:
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/doriangray/facts.htmlQUOTE
major conflict · Dorian Gray, having promised his soul in order to live a life of perpetual youth, must try to reconcile himself to the bodily decay and dissipation that are recorded in his portrait.
QUOTE
falling action · Dorian descends into London's opium dens; he attempts to express remorse to Lord Henry; he stabs his portrait, thereby killing himself.
Essentially, by destroying the portrait that embodied his own personal decay, he destroyed himself.
So by Adam having his powers taken away, he was returned to his natural state, if he had never had powers - death.
hi-C
Oct 21 2008, 02:30 PM
Damn, Becks. Gettin' all insightful on us. I would've never made that connection (AND I was an English major!).
Tung
Oct 21 2008, 02:55 PM
Lol Rebecca, that made sense. How'd you find all that time to find those, when you're at work huh?!
Anyways, hi-c, what does being an English major have to do with it?
hi-C
Oct 21 2008, 03:00 PM
Dorian Grey, one of the great works of fin de siècle English literature by one of my favorite writers ever. I had to read it my junior year spring semester.
Tung
Oct 21 2008, 03:02 PM
^ Ah I see. Wait, did you say you WERE an English major? What and why did you change?
Back on topic. Who thought the Claire thing was stupid? She was going to try to stop him with a stupid one shot tazer? LOL
hi-C
Oct 21 2008, 03:05 PM
"Was" because I graduated in May.
I try to ignore everything with Claire these days. Except for last week, because that black hole dude was interesting.
Tung
Oct 21 2008, 03:09 PM
really? i pay very close attention to claire if you know what I mean
hi-C
Oct 21 2008, 03:14 PM
She's built so awkwardly though, like a gymnast. An inverted triangle. And she ain't got no tits.
Edit: Is there such thing as a butter body?
superstitious
Oct 21 2008, 03:14 PM
LOL That's because I'm an in the closet literature snob. :p
I also read A LOT and my reading covers a lot of territory - both classic and contemporary literature, as well as comic books. I've found that Heroes draws a lot from many sources, which is why I find the writing ultimately endearing (despite patches of the mundane and illogical at times).
I was on break, Tung. Yeah. BREAK!
I sort of tune out when it comes to Claire, although I LOVE Meredith. She's a very interesting character and I wish that they would delve into her history more. Haha. Nathan sure loves the blondies.
The black hole guy freaked me out. The scene at the carousel had me on the edge of my seat, even though I knew that Sylar wasn't going to die. I mean, let's face it. Sylar dies, the show dies. That's my opinion, at least.
lol@"she ain't got no tits"
hi-C
Oct 21 2008, 03:16 PM
QUOTE(superstitious @ Oct 21 2008, 04:14 PM)

I sort of tune out when it comes to Claire, although I LOVE Meredith. She's a very interesting character and I wish that they would delve into her history more. Haha. Nathan sure loves the blondies.
Except his ex-wife, but that explains a lot.
superstitious
Oct 21 2008, 03:17 PM
QUOTE(hi-C @ Oct 21 2008, 03:16 PM)

Except his ex-wife, but that explains a lot.
No kidding. Marry the dark haired intellectual and elitist dark haired beauty but f**k the blondes. Sounds like a typical politician.
AsHlEy-N-aNdReW4ever
Oct 22 2008, 09:21 AM
Hey people wats up? I just watched that show for the first time on monday!!!!!!!I raelly liked it!!!!!!!!And i think its kool how she cant die!!!!!!I hope im talkin about the right show!!!!!!!!LOL im kinda loopy right now!!!!!!!!!lol dont ask!!!!!!!!
Joanne
Oct 22 2008, 11:03 PM
HOLY FREAKING HELL. I just watched the episode. It was awesome. omfg.
And I read half of the recent posts..... Arthur Petrelli didn't only take Adam's power, but he also dehydrated him (that's why Adam cracked and died). There was a guy with that power in the Heroes graphic novels.
Okay, I just read Rebecca's post. That explains a lot!!
Meredith was pretty cool in this week's episode. She usually bugged me because she would also show off her power with that cocky look on her face.
hi-C
Oct 25 2008, 11:54 AM
QUOTE(kreios @ Oct 25 2008, 06:35 AM)

And we only saw him take the lightning from Peter.
Just because we saw him take lightning from Peter doesn't mean that he hasn't taken Peter's other powers. Peter automatically absorbs powers from specials he encounters. For example, Peter had Sylar's power from the first season, he just hadn't known how to access it. The question is if he took Peter's original power, which he probably has.
But if that's the case, Arthur is probably going to give Peter that formula because he can't stand people being normal (i.e. Nathan).
superstitious
Oct 27 2008, 08:21 PM
Ok, someone at NBC seriously needs to fire Hayden Panettiere. She's an utterly dreadful actress and is just killing the show for me right now.
I don't know what's worse, her lack of talent or the gallon of bleach they must have poured on her hair prior to filming tonight's episode.
Gryffindor-Girl
Oct 27 2008, 09:03 PM
Wow all I have to say is that I HATE Arthur Petrelli!
paperplane
Oct 28 2008, 12:14 AM
I don't like this show anymore, and yet I find myself still watching each week.
schizo
Oct 28 2008, 03:37 PM
QUOTE(superstitious @ Oct 27 2008, 08:21 PM)

I don't know what's worse, her lack of talent or the gallon of bleach they must have poured on her hair prior to filming tonight's episode.
She looks like she's wearing a wig...it looks so fake.
They need to stop "killing" people and then bringing them back five minutes later. That happened THREE times yesterday (Parkman, Peter, and someone else...I can't remember).

I was yelling at the TV when Mohinder was smashing Sylar's head into the ground and Papa Petrelli showed up. If he took his powers, I would have stopped watching.
superstitious
Oct 28 2008, 03:39 PM
QUOTE(schizo @ Oct 28 2008, 03:37 PM)

I was yelling at the TV when Mohinder was smashing Sylar's head into the ground and Papa Petrelli showed up. If he took his powers, I would have stopped watching.
Ditto. Although, if I had the Papa Petrelli power to take away someone else's power, I would absorb the power of your icon and signature making skills and take your current avatar and signature for my own FOREVER.
superstitious
Oct 28 2008, 03:47 PM
A convert.
Tung
Oct 28 2008, 05:48 PM
The thing I don't get is the Sylar and Arthur relationship. Is Sylar using Arthur, and intentionally saved Peter from dying? because Arthur was questioning Sylar, how Peter didn't die, when he didn't have powers anymore. I'm confused on the whole motivation thing.
I think even though Daphne is using Parkman, eventually the time they spend together through this whole process will make her fall for Parkman, and she'll eventually turn her back against Arthur.
Dude Hayden is the reason why Heroes are so popular. I don't think she will leave anytime soon.
schizo
Oct 28 2008, 06:20 PM
QUOTE(superstitious @ Oct 28 2008, 03:39 PM)

Ditto. Although, if I had the Papa Petrelli power to take away someone else's power, I would absorb the power of your icon and signature making skills and take your current avatar and signature for my own FOREVER.
That means I wouldn't even be able to make myself a newer, more amazing one.

That's cruel, man.
I think Sylar is still on Mama Petrelli's side. He really seems to love her, but I don't know how he could grow so attached to someone in such a short amount of time. Anyway, I think he knows that he's probably going to be the one that has to stop Arthur. He might just be trying to gain his trust.
hi-C
Oct 31 2008, 03:47 AM
On this whole Sylar thing, I can't tell if he's really that gullible. He wants to be a better person, this much is obvious (the meditating, the future son, saving Peter, etc). But the way he's latched on to Mom and Pop Petrelli is disgusting.
Other thoughts... hmmm... I really like the accent on the Rafiki-type dude. I'd hit it.
And OMG, Hayden's hair is ATROCIOUS. Why the hell does it look so fake?
Does anyone else notice the total deer-in-headlights look that stays on Meredith's face? It's like, damn girl, close your eyes a little bit.
And I SO called it that they were going to put that formula in Peter! =D
Joanne
Nov 1 2008, 12:31 PM
QUOTE(schizo @ Oct 28 2008, 01:37 PM)

They need to stop "killing" people and then bringing them back five minutes later. That happened THREE times yesterday (Parkman, Peter, and someone else...I can't remember).

omg, I was sooo proud of Matt when he made that illusion of himself getting killed! I was like SWEEEEET MATT YOU ARE FREAKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!
QUOTE(pessimist @ Oct 28 2008, 03:48 PM)

The thing I don't get is the Sylar and Arthur relationship. Is Sylar using Arthur, and intentionally saved Peter from dying? because Arthur was questioning Sylar, how Peter didn't die, when he didn't have powers anymore. I'm confused on the whole motivation thing.
QUOTE(hi-C @ Oct 31 2008, 01:47 AM)

On this whole Sylar thing, I can't tell if he's really that gullible. He wants to be a better person, this much is obvious (the meditating, the future son, saving Peter, etc). But the way he's latched on to Mom and Pop Petrelli is disgusting.
Hmm, I really don't think Sylar's using Peter at all. Sylar seems to be a pretty smart, and I think he's on to Arthur (despite what he was told about his mother trying to kill him) and is kind of working against him from the inside. Which would be sweeeeet!
QUOTE(hi-C @ Oct 31 2008, 01:47 AM)

Other thoughts... hmmm... I really like the accent on the Rafiki-type dude. I'd hit it.
Does anyone else notice the total deer-in-headlights look that stays on Meredith's face? It's like, damn girl, close your eyes a little bit.
Word on that first point. And THANK YOU!!! about the Meredith thing! She's pretty and all, but she always looks like she's totally out of it.
QUOTE(pessimist @ Oct 28 2008, 03:48 PM)

Dude Hayden is the reason why Heroes are so popular.
Dude, you did not just say that. HAVE YOU NOT BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THE REST OF THE SHOW?!
Whoa, that was a lot of quoting...
SuckDickNSaveLives
Nov 1 2008, 11:14 PM
Curious question, what would happen if you were to cut Claire in half since she can't be killed? Would she then split in half and make two Claires. I notice that this show has a lot of inconsistencies. For instance when Skylar took apart off Claire's wig, she didn't heal until he put it back on, leading me to believe she can be killed.
Also why is everyone so unintelligent on this show? For instance they're not sure how you can kill Skylar now that he has Claire's powers. Why don't they just use the Haitian to cancel out his powers and have someone put about 50 shots in him? There are so many loopholes and voids in this show its not even funny.
I also hated how Adam Monroe died, but I figured it was because he was old as hell once he lost his powers.
Joanne
Nov 2 2008, 04:00 AM
QUOTE(BanDaSnowman @ Nov 1 2008, 09:14 PM)

Curious question, what would happen if you were to cut Claire in half since she can't be killed? Would she then split in half and make two Claires. I notice that this show has a lot of inconsistencies. For instance when Skylar took apart off Claire's wig, she didn't heal until he put it back on, leading me to believe she can be killed.
Claire was still alive, wasn't she? Her not having grown back that part of her head wasn't that big of a deal, because she could have just gotten up and retrieved the part that was cut off and held it by her head for it to heal. But yeah, I wonder about the cutting in half thing too. Not that I wanna see it.
QUOTE(BanDaSnowman @ Nov 1 2008, 09:14 PM)

Why don't they just use the Haitian to cancel out his powers and have someone put about 50 shots in him? There are so many loopholes and voids in this show its not even funny.
Once the Haitian leaves, Sylar'd just heal again. AND WHY WOULD WE WANT SYLAR TO DIE NOW?!
Joanne
Nov 2 2008, 02:22 PM
The pinky toe part was wayyy before the Sylar part. I think you're on to something, Thomas, but KC's asking why Claire didn't just grow back the top of her head as she did with her pinky toe.
SuckDickNSaveLives
Nov 2 2008, 07:44 PM
QUOTE(Joannnnnne @ Nov 2 2008, 05:00 AM)

Claire was still alive, wasn't she? Her not having grown back that part of her head wasn't that big of a deal, because she could have just gotten up and retrieved the part that was cut off and held it by her head for it to heal. But yeah, I wonder about the cutting in half thing too. Not that I wanna see it.
Once the Haitian leaves, Sylar'd just heal again. AND WHY WOULD WE WANT SYLAR TO DIE NOW?!

I wouldn't want to see her cut in half either.
Also bringing up that Sylar issue, about him healing is what confuses me. For instance remember when that Lady was about to shoot Peter in the head with that shotgun but Adam Monroe stopped her and told Peter "There is no coming back from a shot to the head"? Do they know for sure he would die, or do they not know the effects of a shot to the head.
QUOTE(kreios @ Nov 2 2008, 03:16 PM)

My best guess that in this show, it appears that the people's powers develop, and grow over time, like matt, started out just hearing other people's thoughts, then he could read minds, then he could control minds. I think the same goes for claire, first she can feel pain and heal, then Sylar gets her power and I guess that's when she gets the virus and can't feel pain anymore, then she started being able to regenerate parts of her body when cut off (pinky toe - gross by the way). I think that was the order of the episodes, idr, i watched them all so quickly.. :/
LOL the power developing logic makes sense but her regenerative powers as Joanne said in the post above this is whats so confusing. As she was able to regenerate her toe once cut, why didn't she get a new wig immediately? Or maybe Adam Monroe was on to something when he saved Peter from a shot to the face. Or maybe not because Sylar states, "Claire I couldn't kill you if I wanted to". And this is mainly why I'm confused.
Joanne
Nov 2 2008, 09:31 PM
QUOTE(BanDaSnowman @ Nov 2 2008, 04:44 PM)

Also bringing up that Sylar issue, about him healing is what confuses me. For instance remember when that Lady was about to shoot Peter in the head with that shotgun but Adam Monroe stopped her and told Peter "There is no coming back from a shot to the head"? Do they know for sure he would die, or do they not know the effects of a shot to the head.
Hm, remember in the first season when Claire got that branch stuck into the back of her head (after that football player tried to rape her)? She was actually dead until someone pulled it out... so I guess it would be the same for Adam, Peter, and Sylar - if they got shot in the head and nobody took the bullet out, they'd stay dead too. So that's why HRG (was it?) told Claire to shoot Peter in the head to prevent him for blowing up NY.
hi-C
Nov 3 2008, 12:16 AM
^ Exactly. Brain damage = no regenerative control. If Claire was cut in half, I think she'd be dead until someone pushed her two halves together, you know, within a reasonable time frame.
Joanne
Nov 3 2008, 12:26 AM
Oh, and I just remembered another example of the dying scenario. When Peter fought with Sylar in Mohinder's apartment wayyy back in the first season, glass struck Peter at the back of his head. He was considered dead until someone pulled the shard out, just like with Claire.
Joanne
Nov 11 2008, 01:03 AM
OH SHIT.
Tung
Nov 11 2008, 03:42 AM
"I understand you been dreaming about me"
Joanne
Nov 11 2008, 01:25 PM
I was screeeeaaming at the TV at that part. Holy shit.
Arthur Petrelli is a bad bad man.
Gryffindor-Girl
Nov 11 2008, 03:54 PM
QUOTE(Joannnnnne @ Nov 11 2008, 01:25 PM)

I was screeeeaaming at the TV at that part. Holy shit.
Arthur Petrelli is a bad bad man.
Me too!
Also you can say that again!!!
schizo
Nov 11 2008, 04:40 PM
^BAH, I gasped really, really loud when Arthur showed up at the end.
You know, I used to like HRG in the first season. I can't stand him now. Poor Sylar was happy and then he turned him into a serial killer.
hi-C
Nov 16 2008, 12:52 PM
Man... why'd they have to kill Usutu?
Edit: They're going to have to stop decapitating the precogs.
datass
Nov 23 2008, 07:38 AM
oh my god i
loved the elle and sylar part. then i hated it when arthur was shown watching it
Joanne
Nov 23 2008, 12:34 PM
Yeah the part with Elle and Sylar was awesome! I was a tiny bit disturbed when they started to have all that chemistry though... I thought they could've showed it a little less... awkwardly.
hi-C
Nov 23 2008, 03:41 PM
OMG ELLE AND SYLAR HAVE TO HAPPEN. They need a portmanteau, now. Ellar! Or Sylle! At least we now (probably) know who little Noah's mom is (and why he's blonde).
Tung
Nov 23 2008, 03:43 PM
Hayden was so fineeeeeeeeeee
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