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freeridefight
The fact that people are always bitching about how we have horrible politicians, but isn't it us who elect them? Should one person or group of people choose our government, or continue the way we have been and let the people choose?

brooklyneast05
i duno if it's that accurate to say we choose them completley, look at the democratic party and their super delegates. also us electing politicians doesn't mean we shouldn't bitch when they do things like throw us into unnecessary wars.

no i don't think one person (lolwtf?) should choose them. i think it should continue to let the people vote.
jesusisthebestthing
The point is whether we have one person choose politicians for the citizens or allow the citizens to choose politicans themselves we will always have someone complaining because no government is absolutely perfect. Should things remain the same in the U.S. elections? No. They're a pain, there are too many, there are too many requirements, etc. But what do you propose we do to silence the public outcry? You can't please everyone everytime.
NoSex
QUOTE(freeridefight @ Apr 28 2008, 09:29 PM) *
The fact that people are always bitching about how we have horrible politicians, but isn't it us who elect them?


Because of the internalized election process, and because of the two-party system, to say that anyone truly "chooses" their government representatives is quite arbitrary. When a psychotic mugger offers you the barrel of a gun or the release of all your immediate material good, you couldn't possibly fabricate such an instance as a free "choice." In the case of American politics, it isn't quite different. An institution nominates two major candidates (which receive an obnoxious majority of all media coverage) within that institute's (and the infrastructures' that inform it) own self-interest. Then, the American public is permitted to vote for the puppet on the left, or the puppet on the right. Which side of the same shit coin would you like?
doughnut
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Should one person or group of people choose our government,


and how would that comply with the majority and the minorities views? that's the thing about democracy, you get to choose your leader, but when their time is up, you get to not choose them. you make the decision, that's what it is. not a group of people.

by the way, you have the thoughts of mao tse tung. no kidding at all. go read some history books.
freeridefight
QUOTE(doughnut @ May 3 2008, 08:39 AM) *
and how would that comply with the majority and the minorities views? that's the thing about democracy, you get to choose your leader, but when their time is up, you get to not choose them. you make the decision, that's what it is. not a group of people.

by the way, you have the thoughts of mao tse tung. no kidding at all. go read some history books.


wait was that supposed to be insulting.

I am merely pointing out that today's American public seem not to be able to pick a right person to run their government.
doughnut
well it really depends on what you think. maybe if you support maoism you wont think thats insulting
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