carolannexbh
Apr 2 2008, 05:36 PM
I have a friend (Jackie) at school whom I've met at the beginning of the year. She seemed pretty nice and didnt seem too different than any of us. But she recently told me that she has been pregnant 4 times and after she found out, she would call her friends and they would all drink heavily until the baby died. She also said that she would "accidently fall down stairs" as well. My other friend CC has been with her when she's done this, and says its nothing more than a ton of hard liquor, throwing up, and falling a lot.
My question: If you were at such a young age and got pregnant, what would you do?
brooklyneast05
Apr 2 2008, 05:37 PM
wth! what a nutcase
foxx
Apr 2 2008, 05:38 PM
BE LIKE JUNO.

actually, it all depends on the situation. But i would never do something like that
Tung
Apr 2 2008, 05:38 PM
Wow, she basically murdered 4 people. That's freakin' crazy. She really needs to talk to someone about this problem she has, and start being more responsible and use protection whenever she have any kind of sex.
I can't say what I would do, since I'm a male, but if I were a female, I wouldn't be in that position in the first place.
annalucky
Apr 2 2008, 05:39 PM
Get help. I don't actually don't know what I would do. But then again, I wouldn't get myself pregnant if I didn't want to be.
But yeah she's a nutcase.
carolannexbh
Apr 2 2008, 05:39 PM
Two days before the start of spring break she attempted suicide by ODing on advil. She had an entire bottle. She was entered into an 8 day rehab and she brags about it. She pretty much brags about everything bad that she's done.
MissHygienic
Apr 2 2008, 05:41 PM
It's something called CONDOMS. Teach her that. She's not only a basketcase, she's a f**king idiot, and she's doing more harm to herself than her potential children. Get professional help, both in psychiatry and a gynecologist. I'm past that age, but if I were that young and got pregnant, I wouldn't try to give myself a miscarriage.
Kay-
Apr 2 2008, 05:44 PM
Holy crap! Is she like mentally retarded!?!
I think she needs to learn what a C-O-N-D-O-M is.
misoshiru
Apr 2 2008, 05:44 PM
It just shows that she's a f**king attention whore, who probably lied about being pregnant all those times. The fact that she goes around bragging about doing all this makes it quite obvious.
If I got pregnant before I want a kid, I'd abort it. I don't care, if it's inside the womb, before the 1st trimester, imo it's a parasite.
edit: Actually, I think it would depend on my age. If I'm at an age before I can support myself, then no I don't think that I would abort it. But if I were 14, then yes. And of course, if I were pregnant, the whole situation would change, and I'd probably have to rethink everything. But I'm definitely very much so Pro-Choice.
brooklyneast05
Apr 2 2008, 05:46 PM
i don't get this, it seems like after the first time she wouldn't want to go through that again and would take extra measures to make sure she didn't.
misoshiru
Apr 2 2008, 05:47 PM
IT'S BECUZ SHEZ AN ATTENTION WHORE.
MissHygienic
Apr 2 2008, 05:48 PM
Apparently, she really enjoys packing fetus like clockwork.
illriginal
Apr 2 2008, 05:48 PM
ROFLMAO She got pregnant before being an adult 4 times... wow huge failure. Then to make it even worst lol she drank alcohol to kill all 4 babies.
Fail #1 getting pregnant prior to marriage x4
Fail #2 drank alcohol for an evil deed... x4
Fail #3 murdered x4
Tell her to commit suicide, she's already on her way.
But I also agree with misoshiru, attention whore.
carolannexbh
Apr 2 2008, 05:50 PM
Jc, its more like shes f**king retarded and doesnt really care about her body at all. She doesnt have any respect for herself or for the babies that shes making. I know for a fact she doesnt use condoms, obviously. And Yan lin, I know she is an attention whore, I just can't believe someone would go [i]that far[/] for attention. Its terrible.
misoshiru
Apr 2 2008, 05:51 PM
I personally don't believe that she's actually gotten pregnant 4 times. By the 4th time you abort the fetus in this way, your body will have suffered so much trauma that you would most likely have to go to the hospital for treatment. Sure, she probably would just invite friends over to drink to "kill the baby." Whatever. I see it more as making up shit because she needs the attention.
illriginal
Apr 2 2008, 05:56 PM
QUOTE(misoshiru @ Apr 2 2008, 06:51 PM)

I personally don't believe that she's actually gotten pregnant 4 times. By the 4th time you abort the fetus in this way, your body will have suffered so much trauma that you would most likely have to go to the hospital for treatment. Sure, she probably would just invite friends over to drink to "kill the baby." Whatever. I see it more as making up shit because she needs the attention.
Yeah I see that girl losing her life after the next birth... her vital organs must be horribly damaged. That many times having a fetus at such an underdeveloped stage of her life, then drinking heavily during pregnancy (which the body during this phase absorbs more than it normally would) that many times?... geees she's literally killin herself.
carolannexbh
Apr 2 2008, 06:00 PM
^ She really is. She already tried to kill herself by ODing. Its really rather sad/pathetic/disgusting.
Sprague
Apr 2 2008, 06:15 PM
Wow. That's about all I have to say at initial reaction. If I were her, I absolutely would not try to have a miscarriage four times. I would have spoken to my parents about getting an abortion, or at least getting on birth control pills. She needs to learn how to for herself and the potential lives she's creating.
Then again, when you say she tried to kill herself by OD'ing, you slightly have to wonder about her side of the story, what she's going through. Maybe she just made the wrong decisions. Four times. And brags about them. o_O
illriginal
Apr 2 2008, 06:22 PM
QUOTE(Reconditee @ Apr 2 2008, 07:15 PM)

Wow. That's about all I have to say at initial reaction. If I were her, I absolutely would not try to have a miscarriage four times. I would have spoken to my parents about getting an abortion, or at least getting on birth control pills. She needs to learn how to for herself and the potential lives she's creating.
Then again, when you say she tried to kill herself by OD'ing, you slightly have to wonder about her side of the story, what she's going through. Maybe she just made the wrong decisions. Four times. And brags about them. o_O
Yeah but part of the point of life is to learn right from wrong. For f**k sake is this bitch mildly retarded? If she's retarded then I'll understand.... if not then well maybe she really does deserve to die? (damn I'm evil)
lovescream
Apr 2 2008, 06:28 PM
aha, i pretty much agree with the sympathy-whoring part, but if i was such a young age and got pregnant, one of my options would definitely NOT drinking till it dies. If I were to abort it, I'd do it properly, not doing it in such a horrible manner. :| Wtf? messedddd
Joanne
Apr 2 2008, 06:42 PM
Holy shit, if you're going to put the baby down, at least have an abortion. Don't fall down the stairs and drink the baby away. That's just totally stupid. And plus, she's not just hurting the baby, she's hurting herself too.
I think I would advise my friend to either keep the baby, or put the baby up for adoption. The baby deserves a life.
Make that the 4 babies.
paperplane
Apr 2 2008, 06:46 PM
QUOTE(Tungster @ Apr 2 2008, 06:38 PM)

Wow, she basically murdered 4 people.
Abortion isn't murder. They weren't alive yet.
Which is not to defend this girl at all, just saying. I'd stop being a whore. I'd use protection. I'd deal with shit and have the baby, or abort it in the proper way. You know, safely. But I'd never be in her situation because I'm not a f**king idiot.
I also can't believe her friends would drink with her to get rid of it, either. How dumb do you have to be not tell your friend that that's no way to deal with things, and get her real help? I wouldn't participate in that shit.
mizzkewl06
Apr 2 2008, 06:53 PM
i think if i would have been in that situation (the first time) i would have kept the baby and not make the same mistake again. but if i wasn't able to keep the baby i would opt for adoption. it's careless that if you've already made the mistake of getting pregnant once that would allow it to happen 4 times, especially being so young.
illriginal
Apr 2 2008, 07:12 PM
QUOTE(paperplane @ Apr 2 2008, 07:46 PM)

Abortion isn't murder. They weren't alive yet.
ROFLMAO
Then I guess I could say that if I traveled back into the past, killed your parents; that's a form of aborting you and wouldn't be considered murdering you, right?
I can't believe I attempted to take you serious all those other times.
paperplane
Apr 2 2008, 07:14 PM
And I'm supposed to take you seriously when you talk about traveling back in time and killing my parents?
illriginal
Apr 2 2008, 07:15 PM
QUOTE(paperplane @ Apr 2 2008, 08:14 PM)

And I'm supposed to take you seriously when you talk about traveling back in time and killing my parents?
Hey, I'm just tryin to get on your level so you could actually agree to it and make yourself look even more dumber than your last post.
paperplane
Apr 2 2008, 07:16 PM
More dumber? Really? You're no where near "my level."
Joanne
Apr 2 2008, 07:20 PM
QUOTE(carolannexbh @ Apr 2 2008, 03:39 PM)

Two days before the start of spring break she attempted suicide by ODing on advil. She had an entire bottle. She was entered into an 8 day rehab and she brags about it. She pretty much brags about everything bad that she's done.
Wow, I just read that. Holy hell, what a f**king attention whore. She bragged about committing suicide? What, does she think she'll get the same attention as the
fake characters on The OC? No. People think you're a dumbass slut. Somebody needs to slap some sense into her.
illriginal
Apr 2 2008, 07:21 PM
QUOTE(paperplane @ Apr 2 2008, 08:16 PM)

More dumber? Really? You're no where near "my level."
Right. Let me tell you. "Abortion isn't murder, it isn't a live yet" If it wasn't alive yet, it wouldn't evolve... it wouldn't become larger, it wouldn't move, it wouldn't depend on its vessel to receive nutrients in order to survive and become a gorgeous child. You're f**ked in your lil head. "Your level"

Sperm is a live and so is the egg... I guess you should take health/sex education all over again.
LizzieDeeCeex3
Apr 2 2008, 07:22 PM
Well, I got pregnant when I was 15. Me and my boyfriend tried to be careful but in some cases no matter how hard you try to be careful you can't be anymore than 99.9% sure you won't get pregnant. Well I was the .1% and got pregnant. At first I was so depressed and scared I couldn't eat, sleep, or function well. When I realized what I was doing to my baby by my fears, I quickly turned my life around and made the best of the situation.
Now I have a beautiful son.
Your friend is crazy. She is doing more harm than good to herself. Let's ignore the fact that she's killed the innocent lives of her 4 potential children, but when the time comes that she actually decides to have children she could wind up infertile. If she brags about everything bad she's done perhaps some of it could be an exaggeration, but overall this chick is crazy and needs professional help pronto.
paperplane
Apr 2 2008, 07:24 PM
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Apr 2 2008, 08:21 PM)

Right. Let me tell you. "Abortion isn't murder, it isn't a live yet" If it wasn't alive yet, it wouldn't evolve... it wouldn't become larger, it wouldn't move, it wouldn't depend on its vessel to receive nutrients in order to survive and become a gorgeous child. You're f**ked in your lil head. "Your level"

Sperm is a live and so is the egg... I guess you should take health/sex education all over again.
It doesn't make it a person. Take your juvenile insults and shut the hell up. This isn't a debate.
illriginal
Apr 2 2008, 07:26 PM
QUOTE(paperplane @ Apr 2 2008, 08:24 PM)

It doesn't make it a person. Take your juvenile insults and shut the hell up. This isn't a debate.
LOL

Good luck with your future children, hopefully you'll thnk of them as dead organisms and you don't give birth to any morons, we have enough of them as it is.
Joanne
Apr 2 2008, 07:26 PM
QUOTE(LizzieDeeCeex3 @ Apr 2 2008, 05:22 PM)

Well, I got pregnant when I was 15. Me and my boyfriend tried to be careful but in some cases no matter how hard you try to be careful you can't be anymore than 99.9% sure you won't get pregnant. Well I was the .1% and got pregnant. At first I was so depressed and scared I couldn't eat, sleep, or function well. When I realized what I was doing to my baby by my fears, I quickly turned my life around and made the best of the situation.
Now I have a beautiful son.
Your friend is crazy. She is doing more harm than good to herself. Let's ignore the fact that she's killed the innocent lives of her 4 potential children, but when the time comes that she actually decides to have children she could wind up infertile. If she brags about everything bad she's done perhaps some of it could be an exaggeration, but overall this chick is crazy and needs professional help pronto.
Kudos to you for keeping your baby. =]
LizzieDeeCeex3
Apr 2 2008, 07:28 PM
QUOTE(ms-jojo @ Apr 2 2008, 08:26 PM)

Kudos to you for keeping your baby. =]
Thank you! He is the best thing that ever happened to me.=)
illriginal
Apr 2 2008, 07:29 PM
Simply put ladies and gentlemen. You don't want kids? DON'T HAVE SEX. Cuz not even a condom nor birth control or "pulling out" is gonna prevent you from havin a child 100%.
Yall are adult enough to have sex... then prepare for the repercussions. And avoiding it by aborting a child every time you get pregnant is only f**kin yourself at the end of your road.
carolannexbh
Apr 2 2008, 07:29 PM
QUOTE(LizzieDeeCeex3 @ Apr 2 2008, 07:22 PM)

Well, I got pregnant when I was 15. Me and my boyfriend tried to be careful but in some cases no matter how hard you try to be careful you can't be anymore than 99.9% sure you won't get pregnant. Well I was the .1% and got pregnant. At first I was so depressed and scared I couldn't eat, sleep, or function well. When I realized what I was doing to my baby by my fears, I quickly turned my life around and made the best of the situation.
Now I have a beautiful son.
Your friend is crazy. She is doing more harm than good to herself. Let's ignore the fact that she's killed the innocent lives of her 4 potential children, but when the time comes that she actually decides to have children she could wind up infertile. If she brags about everything bad she's done perhaps some of it could be an exaggeration, but overall this chick is crazy and needs professional help pronto.

Kudos to you for keeping your child. I highly support you.
LizzieDeeCeex3
Apr 2 2008, 07:31 PM
QUOTE(paperplane @ Apr 2 2008, 08:24 PM)

It doesn't make it a person. Take your juvenile insults and shut the hell up. This isn't a debate.
I am not just saying this from my standpoint of being a teen who kept their baby and being a mother but I can't imagine how someone could say that a baby growing and evolving all while in their mothers stomach does not make them people. Within the first four weeks your baby has a heart that functions just like ours, a heart that beats.
So tell me, if your heart stopped beating, would you cease being a person?
Tramatize
Apr 2 2008, 07:31 PM
I can't get pregnent lol, but if i could i'd just give it to adoption.
Its as easy as that.
My friend thought he got his girlfriend preg. last year...turns out she just gained weight...lmao
Tramatize
Apr 2 2008, 07:32 PM
I can't get pregnent lol, but if i could i'd just give it to adoption.
Its as easy as that.
My friend thought he got his girlfriend preg. last year...turns out she just gained weight...lmao
(Sorry for the double post, my pc is slow =/)
misoshiru
Apr 2 2008, 07:33 PM
QUOTE(LizzieDeeCeex3 @ Apr 3 2008, 08:31 AM)

I am not just saying this from my standpoint of being a teen who kept their baby and being a mother but I can't imagine how someone could say that a baby growing and evolving all while in their mothers stomach does not make them people. Within the first four weeks your baby has a heart that functions just like ours, a heart that beats.
So tell me, if your heart stopped beating, would you cease being a person?
In the first trimester, the "baby" is nothing but a parasite.
illriginal
Apr 2 2008, 07:34 PM
QUOTE(LizzieDeeCeex3 @ Apr 2 2008, 08:31 PM)

I am not just saying this from my standpoint of being a teen who kept their baby and being a mother but I can't imagine how someone could say that a baby growing and evolving all while in their mothers stomach does not make them people. Within the first four weeks your baby has a heart that functions just like ours, a heart that beats.
So tell me, if your heart stopped beating, would you cease being a person?
She's never been pregnant, her selfish views is disgusting. She doesn't know what it is to have a child in you. The strong connection you make with what is in your womb. Let her be... I don't even want her postin on this thread with her devilish views.
misoshiru
Apr 2 2008, 07:37 PM
well it's not like you can ever have a womb. everyone has different opinions. don't go blasting shit about how someone is the devil if their beliefs are different than yours. how come you're not talking shit about me since i find fetuses parasites huh?
Smarmosaur
Apr 2 2008, 07:38 PM
...ever think maybe she's lying?
i mean, really, she could just be f**king stupid, or f**king stupid and a pathological liar. i bet on the latter.
LizzieDeeCeex3
Apr 2 2008, 07:38 PM
QUOTE(misoshiru @ Apr 2 2008, 08:33 PM)

In the first trimester, the "baby" is nothing but a parasite.
At the end of the 1st trimester, the fetus has arms, hands, fingers, legs, feet, and toes that are fully formed. Their internal organs are already developing. Their nails begin to grow. External ears are present. Tooth sockets are bugs are forming in the jawbones. Their eyes are almost fully developed. That description more fits a human being than a parasite, as far as I'm concerned.
paperplane
Apr 2 2008, 07:39 PM
Tam, shut the f**k up already, I don't have to agree with your views
QUOTE(LizzieDeeCeex3 @ Apr 2 2008, 08:31 PM)

I am not just saying this from my standpoint of being a teen who kept their baby and being a mother but I can't imagine how someone could say that a baby growing and evolving all while in their mothers stomach does not make them people. Within the first four weeks your baby has a heart that functions just like ours, a heart that beats.
QUOTE(misoshiru @ Apr 2 2008, 08:33 PM)

In the first trimester, the "baby" is nothing but a parasite.
QUOTE
So tell me, if your heart stopped beating, would you cease being a person?
Well I'd be dead............
illriginal
Apr 2 2008, 07:40 PM
QUOTE(misoshiru @ Apr 2 2008, 08:37 PM)

well it's not like you can ever have a womb. everyone has different opinions. don't go blasting shit about how someone is the devil if their beliefs are different than yours. how come you're not talking shit about me since i find fetuses parasites huh?
Because that's an analogy. But in a sense is true at that specific stage. But still... it was willed to be born. Whether it's a mistake or not... it was meant to be, people should be responsible for their actions. If we all "aborted" our responsibilities this world would be f**ked beyond belief long ago. Which sadly is goin that direction anyways =\
paper.. you don't have to agree with shit that I have to say. But the fact that you said, "abortion isn't murder, it isn't alive yet" only makes you lose creditability and my respect, for whatever that's worth.
misoshiru
Apr 2 2008, 07:40 PM
for me, if it can't live outside the womb by itself, it's not a human being.
QUOTE(RockItStudios @ Apr 3 2008, 08:38 AM)

...ever think maybe she's lying?
i mean, really, she could just be f**king stupid, or f**king stupid and a pathological liar. i bet on the latter.
uh...wtf? maybe you're f**king stupid.
paperplane
Apr 2 2008, 07:42 PM
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Apr 2 2008, 08:40 PM)

Because that's an analogy. But in a sense is true at that specific stage. But still... it was willed to be born.
You sound an awful lot like those Catholics you hate so much.
It wasn't willed to be born if it
isn't born
carolannexbh
Apr 2 2008, 07:43 PM
I'd appreciate it if everyone would stop turning this thread into a debate. If you wanted to debate about it, go into the debate forum.
Becka, a lot of us do think that she did do these things, but just blowing them up into a bigger story than what it really is.
illriginal
Apr 2 2008, 07:47 PM
QUOTE(paperplane @ Apr 2 2008, 08:42 PM)

You sound an awful lot like those Catholics you hate so much.
It wasn't willed to be born if it isn't born
You mean I sound like a person of God... who respects and loves humanity and wants humanity to prosper and build together?
It's willed to be born if the moron who's supposed to be responsible and caring doesn't get in the way and murders it.
Whatever. I've said my peace and you've proved your moronic view. And to prevent this from happening again, please for f**k sake, do not question me, nor even quote me on anything for now on. You'd only be wasting time.
/rant
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