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fameONE
QUOTE(Steven @ Mar 12 2008, 12:45 PM) *
Brandon doesn't know anything about overseas soldiers.

You're right. I'm not a Soldier, nor do I work with the Army. I can pass on information about Marines and green-side Sailors, though
pandora
Hey Steven, I think you spelled "Marines" wrong. It's M-A-R-I-N-E-S, not S-O-L-D-I-E-R-S. Just in case you didn't catch that. Just returning the favor :]
illriginal
QUOTE(pandora @ Mar 13 2008, 09:13 AM) *
Hey Steven, I think you spelled "Marines" wrong. It's M-A-R-I-N-E-S, not S-O-L-D-I-E-R-S. Just in case you didn't catch that. Just returning the favor :]


pandora... a soldier is just a general term used for anyone in the military. You know... Army, Marines, Air Force, NAVY =\
Steven
QUOTE(pandora @ Mar 13 2008, 08:13 AM) *
Hey Steven, I think you spelled "Marines" wrong. It's M-A-R-I-N-E-S, not S-O-L-D-I-E-R-S. Just in case you didn't catch that. Just returning the favor :]

No, I think I meant to put soldiers. Try again princess.
pandora
Wow, fail. I'd like to see you call a marine a soldier to their face.
fameONE
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 13 2008, 08:17 AM) *
pandora... a soldier is just a general term used for anyone in the military. You know... Army, Marines, Air Force, NAVY =\


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No, I think I meant to put soldiers. Try again princess.


Wrong. Fail.

illriginal
QUOTE(pandora @ Mar 13 2008, 09:18 AM) *
Wow, fail. I'd like to see you call a marine a soldier to their face.



What the hell... what does it matter... soldier is a person enlisted into the military. A militant.. it doesn't matter if they're a Marine or not... they're still a soldier.
pandora
The one time my friend and I called my ex's dad a soldier, he only had to remind us once: Marines and Sailors are not Soldiers. Soldiers come from the Army. Ever call a Marine a soldier, you might as well sign the death certificate yourself.
illriginal
QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 13 2008, 09:19 AM) *
Wrong. Fail.

If you're a Marine... you're a Marine Corps Soldier... wtf.
fameONE
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 13 2008, 08:21 AM) *
What the hell... what does it matter... soldier is a person enlisted into the military. A militant.. it doesn't matter if they're a Marine or not... they're still a soldier.


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If you're a Marine... you're a Marine Corps Soldier... wtf.


Wrong again. You were in the military? You said you were. Hmm, I no longer believe you.

Let's break this down, shall we?

Marine Corps - Marine
Navy - Sailor
Army - Soldier
Air Force - Airman

Simple enough?
illriginal
QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 13 2008, 09:24 AM) *
Wrong again. You were in the military? You said you were. Hmm, I no longer believe you.

Let's break this down, shall we?

Marine Corps - Marine
Navy - Sailor
Army - Soldier
Air Force - Airman

Simple enough?




QUOTE(pandora @ Mar 13 2008, 09:21 AM) *
The one time my friend and I called my ex's dad a soldier, he only had to remind us once: Marines and Sailors are not Soldiers. Soldiers come from the Army. Ever call a Marine a soldier, you might as well sign the death certificate yourself.


Wait... soldier is just when someone is dressed out in military fatigues. That's when they're in combat mode. Either way they're a soldier. You should address them 'Marine, Sailor etc.. when they're dressed into their proper uniform.
pandora
Ok, Tama just go to your nearest friendly Marine Corps base and try your luck at calling one of the Marines there a soldier. I'll pray for you. thumbsup.gif
fameONE
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 13 2008, 08:25 AM) *
Wait... soldier is just when someone is dressed out in military fatigues. That's when they're in combat mode. Either way they're a soldier. You should address them 'Marine, Sailor etc.. when they're dressed into their proper uniform.


Negative. It doesn't work like that. You're distinguished based on the branch in which you serve. In a Marine Corps utility uniform, I'm still a Marine. If a Sailor, who is a Corpsman (Navy medical, works with Marines), is in combat utilities, he's still a Sailor.
pandora
Damn, if my ex ever made the mistake of calling his dad a soldier, he got popped in the mouth as a kid.
fameONE
QUOTE(pandora @ Mar 13 2008, 08:30 AM) *
Damn, if my ex ever made the mistake of calling his dad a soldier, he got popped in the mouth as a kid.

I have a long line of scarlet and gold in veins. Growing up, I wouldn't dare get it confused, or I got popped in the mouth. Tama, maybe you should get popped in the mouth. Don't worry, it builds character.
illriginal
QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 13 2008, 09:28 AM) *
Negative. It doesn't work like that. You're distinguished based on the branch in which you serve. In a Marine Corps utility uniform, I'm still a Marine. If a Sailor, who is a Corpsman (Navy medical, works with Marines), is in combat utilities, he's still a Sailor.


Hm... I see, I only spent 4 years in the NAVY. (Enlisted right after Bush took over presidency)

QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 13 2008, 09:32 AM) *
I have a long line of scarlet and gold in veins. Growing up, I wouldn't dare get it confused, or I got popped in the mouth. Tama, maybe you should get popped in the mouth. Don't worry, it builds character.


Yeh... been popped in the mouth before, but after that... I learned stabbing people does the trick.
pandora
Well then you're an idiot. And I believe the blanket term for people fighting in all four branches is "troops."
illriginal
QUOTE(pandora @ Mar 13 2008, 09:34 AM) *
Well then you're an idiot. And I believe the blanket term for people fighting in all four branches is "troops."



See.. name calling. Then you bust my balls because of it. And yes troops is the proper term, I was taught to believe that so was soldier when they're in military fatigue/ combat mode.
fameONE
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 13 2008, 08:33 AM) *
Hm... I see, I only spent 4 years in the NAVY. (Enlisted right after Bush took over presidency)
Yeh... been popped in the mouth before, but after that... I learned stabbing people does the trick.


What was your MOS?

Don't incriminate yourself now, the feds are watching. Remember the sex thread? ph34r.gif
pandora
Then someone wanted you to get your ass kicked by teaching you that.

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Actually, I don't have a hard time believing that someone wanted you to get your ass kicked so badly they taught you to call a marine a soldier.
illriginal
QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 13 2008, 09:36 AM) *
What was your MOS?

Don't incriminate yourself now, the feds are watching. Remember the sex thread? ph34r.gif


Data Systems Specialist. I'm a PC nerd... wutcha expect.

Luckily I got a 84 on my ASVAB cuz there's nothin else I wanted to do.
Steven
The fake one?


Tisk tisk, this thread has really gone askew. I do believe this would be considered spam. But that's just me.

No I don't care but don't bitch about spamming if you're going to spam too.
pandora
Topic Split.
fameONE
Eeeeenteresting.

Where did you get the notion that all servicemen in combat utilities were Soldiers, though? That was some bad guidance.
Steven
So next time spam ensues, why not just split it from the topic and the conversation can continue there ^.~
pandora
Because not all spam has a point worthy of its own topic. I don't need you to tell me how to mod, Steven. You're starting to look like ye ole Thomas. Not a good look.
fameONE
QUOTE(Steven @ Mar 13 2008, 08:50 AM) *
So next time spam ensues, why not just split it from the topic and the conversation can continue there ^.~

Drop it. When you're on staff again, you can be the one to take action. K?
Steven
I'll drop it and pick it up when I see fit :) It was a good suggestion, as a lot of spam is side tracked conversation that would be fine in a thread of it's own.

Anyways, not to spam again, would y'all say that there are absolutely no soldiers in Japan?
fameONE
QUOTE(Steven @ Mar 13 2008, 08:53 AM) *
I'll drop it and pick it up when I see fit :) It was a good suggestion, as a lot of spam is side tracked conversation that would be fine in a thread of it's own.

Anyways, not to spam again, would y'all say that there are absolutely no soldiers in Japan?


Soldiers train up at White Beach and Torii Station here on Okinawa. They also have a Communications brigade somewhere in the boonies. There aren't many of them.
Steven
But would it be safe to say that there are soldiers in Japan (which I think is considered overseas? correct me if I'm wrong)?
fameONE
QUOTE(Steven @ Mar 13 2008, 08:57 AM) *
But would it be safe to say that there are soldiers in Japan (which I think is considered overseas? correct me if I'm wrong)?

You're splitting hairs, kid.
Steven
I'll take that as a yes.
pandora
Yes, but what the f**k does that have to do with Brandon? His job doesn't require him to know wtf soldiers are up to.
fameONE
QUOTE(pandora @ Mar 13 2008, 09:00 AM) *
Yes, but what the f**k does that have to do with Brandon? His job doesn't require him to know wtf soldiers are up to.

You catch on quick. oro.gif
Steven
OOOO OOOO OOO PICK ME PICK ME!!
pandora
QUOTE
Keep in mind that I'm part of a unit (and work in the 3d MLG Chief of Staff's office) that oversees the Pacific Theater of operations for Marine Corps and Naval personnel.



No where does that say "Army." You lose.
fameONE
I see you lurkin' at me, woman.
pandora
hehe.gif
Steven
QUOTE(pandora @ Mar 13 2008, 09:03 AM) *
No where does that say "Army." You lose.

Not necessarily. One would think that being in the Navy would give you and understanding of the other four branches, or at least know some of the generalities that apply to all 4 branches. Not to say I'm taking his side or anything, just that statement was full of fail.


QUOTE(Steven @ Mar 12 2008, 12:45 PM) *
Brandon doesn't know anything about overseas soldiers.



QUOTE(Steven @ Mar 12 2008, 01:21 PM) *
No I'm just kidding he's stationed in Japan.



QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 13 2008, 08:55 AM) *
Soldiers train up at White Beach and Torii Station here on Okinawa. They also have a Communications brigade somewhere in the boonies. There aren't many of them.


So when I said I'm kidding, and he said that about the soldiers at White Beach, could that have possibly validated my previous statement? Just sayin.
fameONE
QUOTE(Steven @ Mar 13 2008, 09:05 AM) *
Not necessarily. One would think that being in the Navy would give you
So when I said I'm kidding, and he said that about the soldiers at White Beach, could that have possibly validated my previous statement? Just sayin.


I never said there weren't Soldiers here, I just said I didn't know anything about 'em. As a serviceman stationed here, we all know where the bases are, just in case. That doesn't mean I go there and kick it with some guy they call Sarge. hehe.gif
Steven
Saying you don't know anything is an absolute. You apparently know something, as you told us what you knew :D
fameONE
BEGIN: RELATIVE_TRUTH

From now on, I'll be clear on the statements I make. Just so you know, for sure, that it is relative or absolute.

END: RELATIVE_TRUTH
Steven
Thanks, mang! Clarity is always a good thing. That's why I use Proactive! I like to be clean and clear!
pandora
ok we have a very specific naming convention. it's Begin: relativeTruth, and End: relativeTruth.


Then any other identifiers are used like so:

relativeTruth_Ftw
fameONE
QUOTE(pandora @ Mar 13 2008, 09:14 AM) *
ok we have a very specific naming convention. it's Begin: relativeTruth, and End: relativeTruth.


Don't sass me, woman. stubborn.gif
pandora
IM ON TOP.
Steven
QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 13 2008, 09:13 AM) *
BEGIN: RELATIVE_TRUTH

From now on, I'll be clear on the statements I make. Just so you know, for sure, that it is relative or absolute.

END: RELATIVE_TRUTH



QUOTE(pandora @ Mar 13 2008, 09:14 AM) *
ok we have a very specific naming convention. it's Begin: relativeTruth, and End: relativeTruth.

Oh okay, good thing you clarified that. I had no clue what Brandon was saying, what with the whole caps beginning and ending before and after his statement. I mean, wtf is that shit?
fameONE
QUOTE(pandora @ Mar 13 2008, 09:16 AM) *
IM ON TOP.


Keep riding. shifty.gif

Back on topic, Marines were once regarded as the 'Soldiers of the Sea.' That was back in the olden days, though. Times change.
illriginal
Not to start a debate... but this is from a Marine himself:
http://www.angelfire.com/ca/dickg/soldier.html

The term Soldier can be used as a general term to identify any serviceman or woman.

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QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 13 2008, 10:17 AM) *
Keep riding. shifty.gif

Back on topic, Marines were once regarded as the 'Soldiers of the Sea.' That was back in the olden days, though. Times change.


Actually not really... it never has changed.

It's the sense of pride in which a serviceman or woman woul dmuch rather be addressed to their branch. That's all.
fameONE
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 13 2008, 09:17 AM) *
Not to start a debate... but this is from a Marine himself:
http://www.angelfire.com/ca/dickg/soldier.html

The term Soldier can be used as a general term to identify any serviceman or woman.

=\
Actually not really... it never has changed.


Don't post at the same time as me, sea-dog! Shit.

It still stands. Many Marines find it offensive to be called the 's' word.
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