Steven
Mar 13 2008, 09:20 AM
illriginal
Mar 13 2008, 09:21 AM
QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 13 2008, 10:20 AM)

Don't post at the same time as me, sea-dog! Shit.
It still stands. Many Marines find it offensive to be called the 's' word.
Yar out of pride... which blankets them with a bit of ignorance because they're still a soldier in general terms, not specific terms.
QUOTE(Steven @ Mar 13 2008, 10:20 AM)

Erm... isn't that just about how the Marines were born into having their own Branch?... nothin really about how the general term, "soldier" was abolished specifically for Marines? =\
fameONE
Mar 13 2008, 09:21 AM
I'm going to bed, kids. Peace.
Steven
Mar 13 2008, 09:22 AM
But who will back Trish up? Or will she be strong enough by herself? Or will she retreat, too?
illriginal
Mar 13 2008, 09:25 AM
QUOTE(Steven @ Mar 13 2008, 10:22 AM)

But who will back Trish up? Or will she be strong enough by herself? Or will she retreat, too?
I say retreat... but I gotta go to work myself.. have 5 minutes to get dressed o.o;
pandora
Mar 13 2008, 09:25 AM
Roflmfao you spelled "balls" wrong. Don't know if you caught that.
Melie
Mar 13 2008, 09:28 AM
in my experience and teachings in the army, there is a significant distinguishment between the two. you can never tell a marine that they are a soldier because they feel that the term "soldier" only applies to army. being called a marine is a honor for them. just the same as a sailor and airman. now a days, if someone asks if you're a soldier, the first assumption is that they're asking if you're army. its best to say that all service members are not soldiers but their own entity.
soldier-army
marine-marine
airman-airforce
sailor-navy
btw...steven, go ahead and critize all you want about what i'm saying but guess what, i'm always an army veteran first before an army wife. and yes, i worked a desk job but i also worked the front lines so a little respect should be given to all military members, past or present, no matter what they are.
Steven
Mar 13 2008, 09:32 AM
QUOTE(Melie @ Mar 13 2008, 09:28 AM)

in my experience and teachings in the army, there is a significant distinguishment between the two. you can never tell a marine that they are a soldier because they feel that the term "soldier" only applies to army. being called a marine is a honor for them. just the same as a sailor and airman. now a days, if someone asks if you're a soldier, the first assumption is that they're asking if you're army. its best to say that all service members are not soldiers but their own entity.
soldier-army
marine-marine
airman-airforce
sailor-navy
btw...steven, go ahead and critize all you want about what i'm saying but guess what, i'm always an army veteran first before an army wife. and yes, i worked a desk job but i also worked the front lines so a little respect should be given to all military members, past or present, no matter what they are.
We've been over this, fatty. Point out to me where I said that soldiers and Marines were a synonymous term. Oh wait, I never did. There are, however, soldiers (ARMY ZOMG) stationed in Japan, as Brandon confirmed.
pandora
Mar 13 2008, 09:34 AM
they dont put women on the front lines...
Steven
Mar 13 2008, 09:35 AM
Wait for it...
Melie
Mar 13 2008, 09:39 AM
i apologize but i didn't direct that whole thing to you steven. it was posted as a general but there's no need to call me names because that's definitely not my name.
you're right, women are not allowed in the front lines. i used the wrong term on that. but still, back to the topic at hand, respect should be given to each service member by calling each by their respective title.
Steven
Mar 13 2008, 09:41 AM
We went over this earlier. Clarify! YOU MUST CLARIFY AND ADD BEGINNING AND ENDINGS FOR WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING IN RELATIVE AND ABSOLUTE TERMS!
pandora
Mar 13 2008, 09:41 AM
and please use my awesome naming convention, kthx.
Steven
Mar 13 2008, 09:41 AM
No but I kid, I declare 'VICTOLY' (Get it, Brandon?)
Melie
Mar 13 2008, 09:42 AM
i'm sorry again. i had no understanding of that.
Steven
Mar 13 2008, 09:42 AM
QUOTE(pandora @ Mar 13 2008, 09:41 AM)

and please use my awesome naming convention, kthx.

I see you're quite versed in the art of sarcasm, too!
illriginal
Mar 13 2008, 10:00 AM
QUOTE(pandora @ Mar 13 2008, 10:34 AM)

they dont put women on the front lines...
Shhhh... I'm watching the hole being dug :X
When there's a group of servicemen and women... whether they're in the ARMY, NAVY, Marines, Air Force... it is actually ok to use the term "soldiers" or "troops"
That's all I'm sayin on my part.
ArtofBreaking
Mar 13 2008, 10:27 AM
sol·dier (sōl'jər)
n.
1. One who serves in an army.
2. An enlisted person or a noncommissioned officer.
3. An active, loyal, or militant follower of an organization.
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illriginal
Mar 13 2008, 10:29 AM
QUOTE(Orlean @ Mar 13 2008, 11:27 AM)

sol·dier (sōl'jər)
n.
1. One who serves in an army.
2. An enlisted person or a noncommissioned officer.
3. An active, loyal, or militant follower of an organization.
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sol·dier /ˈsoʊldʒər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sohl-jer] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a person who serves in an army; a person engaged in
military service.
2.
an enlisted man or woman, as distinguished from a commissioned officer: the soldiers' mess and the officers' mess.
3. a person of
military skill or
experience: George Washington was a great soldier.
4. a person who contends or
serves in any cause: a soldier of the Lord.
ArtofBreaking
Mar 13 2008, 10:30 AM
So I left out Military? That doesnt distinguish which branch.
The term soldier, as read in the dictionary, would apply to all branches of the Military.
illriginal
Mar 13 2008, 10:33 AM
QUOTE(Orlean @ Mar 13 2008, 11:30 AM)

So I left out Military? That doesnt distinguish which branch.
The term soldier, as read in the dictionary, would apply to all branches of the Military.
Should give full definition... but no big deal.
Sumiaki
Mar 13 2008, 11:12 AM
Lol? I pay you for your service. So if I want to call you [filtered] soldier, I'm going to call you a [filtered] soldier. It's like when all those [filtered] pacific islanders say "I'm not [filtered] Asian, I'm [filtered] pacific islander. God."
Steven
Mar 13 2008, 11:12 AM
You know, it's easier to type f**king instead of [filtered]
illriginal
Mar 13 2008, 11:20 AM
QUOTE(Sumiaki @ Mar 13 2008, 12:12 PM)

Lol? I pay you for your service. So if I want to call you [filtered] soldier, I'm going to call you a [filtered] soldier. It's like when all those [filtered] pacific islanders say "I'm not [filtered] Asian, I'm [filtered] pacific islander. God."

LOL
Tung
Mar 13 2008, 03:25 PM
QUOTE(Melie @ Mar 13 2008, 07:28 AM)

btw...steven, go ahead and critize all you want about what i'm saying but guess what, i'm always an army veteran first before an army wife. and yes, i worked a desk job but i also worked the front lines so a little respect should be given to all military members, past or present, no matter what they are.

please sit down.
Sumiaki
Mar 13 2008, 03:43 PM
QUOTE(Steven @ Mar 13 2008, 11:12 AM)

You know, it's easier to type f**king instead of [filtered]
A habit I got from frequenting other forums.
pandora
Mar 13 2008, 04:52 PM
QUOTE(Sumiaki @ Mar 13 2008, 09:12 AM)

Lol? I pay you for your service. So if I want to call you [filtered] soldier, I'm going to call you a [filtered] soldier. It's like when all those [filtered] pacific islanders say "I'm not [filtered] Asian, I'm [filtered] pacific islander. God."

Wow good job you close minded f**k. That's great, you pay your doctor for their service, doesn't mean you can call him a dentist.
xoxoxx
Mar 13 2008, 05:31 PM
that's kind of scary...
if i called a marine a soldier, they would seriously beat me up?
what's a seal?
pandora
Mar 13 2008, 05:35 PM
rofl... the Seals are the l33t special operations forces of the U.S. Navy. they deal with "unconventional" warfare.
ArtofBreaking
Mar 13 2008, 05:45 PM
^That would be Special Operations Command.
And of the Marines I know who served, in my family as well as friends, wouldn't be offended if you called them a Soldier. They at least are intelligent enough to understand what it is.
I'm being very literal here with the term 'Soldier.'
xoxoxx
Mar 13 2008, 05:46 PM
so do marines deal with water...?
marine reminds me of oceans.
illriginal
Mar 13 2008, 05:47 PM
QUOTE(Orlean @ Mar 13 2008, 06:45 PM)

^That would be Special Operations Command.
And of the Marines I know who served, in my family as well as friends, wouldn't be offended if you called them a Soldier. They at least are intelligent enough to understand what it is.
I'm being very literal here with the term 'Soldier.'
Yeah I've never had a problem with calling a Marine a soldier. And we transported many across seas -.-
From the Hawaiian islands to Japan, to be more specific.
QUOTE(pandora @ Mar 13 2008, 05:52 PM)

Wow good job you close minded f**k. That's great, you pay your doctor for their service, doesn't mean you can call him a dentist.
but if he was a dentist and you call him a doctor.. that's ok cuz he's obviously a doctor.
pandora
Mar 13 2008, 05:50 PM
But not the other way around, obviously.
illriginal
Mar 13 2008, 05:51 PM
QUOTE(pandora @ Mar 13 2008, 06:50 PM)

But not the other way around, obviously.
Yar
pandora
Mar 13 2008, 05:51 PM
QUOTE(sharpnotflat @ Mar 13 2008, 03:46 PM)

so do marines deal with water...?
marine reminds me of oceans.
the marines used to be the part of the navy that would fight on land. the navy deals with water.
someone correct me if im wrong.
Steven
Mar 13 2008, 05:52 PM
The army drinks water.
illriginal
Mar 13 2008, 05:52 PM
QUOTE(pandora @ Mar 13 2008, 06:51 PM)

the marines used to be the part of the navy that would fight on land. the navy deals with water.
someone correct me if im wrong.
Pretty much... Marines are a mix between NAVY and Army. Think of NAVY daddy having sex with mommy Army, and then baaaam Marines are born :D
pandora
Mar 13 2008, 05:54 PM
QUOTE(Steven @ Mar 13 2008, 03:52 PM)

The army drinks water.
ArtofBreaking
Mar 13 2008, 05:54 PM
Marines deal with numerous water drops (insertion via chopper) Land insertion (via boat). Basically there isn't just one insertion technique, so you can't really say they only deal with this or that.
Edit:
I left out extraction. So just include that in there too.
pandora
Mar 13 2008, 05:55 PM
I don't believe I was implying that (if you're talking to me).
illriginal
Mar 13 2008, 05:57 PM
QUOTE(Orlean @ Mar 13 2008, 06:54 PM)

Marines deal with numerous water drops (insertion via chopper) Land insertion (via boat). Basically there isn't just one insertion technique, so you can't really say they only deal with this or that.
Edit:
I left out extraction. So just include that in there too.
Yeh... just use the Wiki on U.S. Marines. It's pretty darn accurate.
ArtofBreaking
Mar 13 2008, 05:59 PM
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 13 2008, 06:52 PM)

Pretty much... Marines are a mix between NAVY and Army. Think of NAVY daddy having sex with mommy Army, and then baaaam Marines are born :D
Ahaha wtf. lol
Good analogy.
QUOTE
pandora Posted Today, 06:55 PM
I don't believe I was implying that (if you're talking to me).
I was just tryin to say they don't only deal with water.
pandora
Mar 13 2008, 06:38 PM
i love how the army is the mommy.
illriginal
Mar 13 2008, 06:53 PM
QUOTE(pandora @ Mar 13 2008, 07:38 PM)

i love how the army is the mommy.
lol well either way/vice versa
EddieV
Mar 13 2008, 06:57 PM
I just looked this stuff up. I never knew all this. Thanks for the heads up Brandon!
carolannexbh
Mar 13 2008, 08:03 PM
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 13 2008, 05:57 PM)

Yeh... just use the Wiki on U.S. Marines. It's pretty darn accurate.
I don't trust wiki with anything anymore. Anyone can edit it, so imo theres no point at looking at anything on there. And my brother's friend Andy is a marine and he was over for a couple minutes today to pick up his sweatshirt and I asked him if I could call him soldier. I got quite possibly the worst look from him and he said "dont call me a soldier ever again. please." ahah.
fameONE
Mar 13 2008, 08:42 PM
I should grab some popcorn and enjoy this show. I'll take this time to learn about the Marine Corps.
karmakiller
Mar 13 2008, 09:38 PM
Hahaha, wow this was a waste of my time reading through all these replied. I just call my brother a Marine. I've called him, and his buddies, soldiers before and they don't get offended by it and they've never beat me up for it... but I just can't see them as soldiers, so I think Marine is a fitting term for them as people...
fameONE
Mar 13 2008, 09:47 PM
QUOTE(karmakiller @ Mar 13 2008, 09:38 PM)

Hahaha, wow this was a waste of my time reading through all these replied. I just call my brother a Marine. I've called him, and his buddies, soldiers before and they don't get offended by it and they've never beat me up for it... but I just can't see them as soldiers, so I think Marine is a fitting term for them as people...
What's your brother's name, where is he stationed, what's his rank and what's his MOS? The Corps is pretty small.
EddieV
Mar 13 2008, 10:12 PM
What are the National Guard, Air National Guard, and Coast Guard considered?
and Brandon, you ever played around with a British SA80?
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