"So that others may live." Is the motto.
They take care of our national waters, enforcement and rescue.

Phew okay. SO. I wouldn't call my doctor a dentist silly. What do these four definitions have to do with anything? I assume you have taken the english section of the ACTs or SATs.

Bark is to dog as meow is to _______

Okay okay that's a simple one... well just in case, it's cat.

Now lets substitute!

Dentist is to Doctor as Marine is to ______

Let me think...

Oh yeah, Soldier.

And thank you. It was a good job.

You're a complete retard. My point was you call them whatever the f**k they want you to call them. Because you "pay" them is not a f**king factor. They're fighting to give you the freedom to even f**king say that. It's called respect. They don't owe you anything just because you pay your damned taxes.

My point was the fact that people who say Marines aren't soldiers on the basis that they don't like being called soldiers; not because they aren't soldiers. I will call them whatever I want to call them as long as it proves true. Hence I will call them soldiers if I want, despite them not liking it. Now if it were something like "I pay their salary so I can call them RETARDS if I wanted to" then I would see your point.

Obviously your analogy presumed that I could call someone something they are not. I wanted to clarify that your analogy is wrong when in context with my post.






PS. Pls goe bak 2 skewl 2 lern thngz uuhnleik me teh retaerd.. meng skewlz ish nawt sew ezy

Here it comes.

If you had left out "Lol? I pay you for your service. So if I want to call you" I would not have even responded. Because you pay someone for their service is not a factor of how you are allowed to treat them. It's still a service. If it offends them to be referred to as soldiers, then show some goddamned respect and don't call them that. Unappreciative f**k.

Marines are soldiers! Soldiers of the sea!

Please clarify for my retard brain: How is calling someone who they are disrespectful?

It's ok you stubborn little shit. I fight for your freedom to be an outspoken douchebag.

I could care less what I call a marine. I agree with Sumiaki on that one. If I called a girl a bitch, she's a bitch. Same shit with me classifying a Marine a soldier (which technically is correct). If the Marine is offended, oh wells.

You're dying for attention.

This topic has gone way left field.

Just out of curiosity... why is it offensive to be called a soldier if you're a marine?

There's a certain prestige in being a United States Marine. We're a military organization that isn't needed because the Army could make a few expansisions and be the only branch that the U.S. military has. We train in relatively poor conditions with out of date equipment, but the general training we receive, regardless of MOS, is in preparation for even the worst warfighting conditions.

From day one of Marine Recruit training, I was groomed to be an aggressive, cocky, quick-thinking leader who could get in the shit and get my hands dirty. Combat isn't feared, it's accepted. Many of us look forward to it because that's how we're trained. Our entire way of life is less pampered and just a bit more rugged than any other branch, and to associate us with anyone else is insulting.

So basically this is a case of severe Elitism. Interesting. So it's like saying "Don't call me white/caucasian, I'm Aryan." Yes I know, yet ANOTHER analogy.

I also love how you're trying to throw patriotism in here to try to make me seem ungrateful and/or a bad person. By calling you a soldier, I am not in any way demeaning you or stating I am ungrateful in anyway. I am simply calling you what you are defined as. I am not obligated to follow your preferences that have no reasoning to it. Does this mean I am ungrateful and do not respect you? No. Last time I checked, Soldier is not a demeaning name nor does it hold any less prestige than Marine.

Yes you fight for my rights and my freedoms. So do other soldiers other than Marines. I respect all the armed forces for that fact. Are you saying that you possibly fight harder than the other soldiers? Now who looks like a [filtered] ungrateful Elitist. When a soldier dies, they died for their country, no matter what company they belong to tears will shed, they will be missed, and they will be honored. I actually did have respect for you before this post. Seeing as you do not get it and trying to be some hot shot Elite Marine in compared to your brothers in arms that you cannot be referred to as a general team is quite dishonorable in my opinion. I hope you seriously read this instead of brushing it off as a guy who has never served.

Another analogy for you.

"It's not the Lakers, stupid. It's Kobe Bryant."

What does this analogy represent? (So as to not get any stupid "i missed the point" replies)

You, as the armed forces and soldiers of our country, are a team of individuals fighting to defend our rights as citizens of United States of America.

Having pride is fine, but reading this thread you have changed my outlook on Marines now. NOW, I see Marines as Elitist Prima Donnas who do not look at the big picture. Congratulations at improperly representing your branch of armed forces.


PS Call me GOD, I don't like it when you refer to me as Sumiaki. kthxbai

^ +1

The discussion isn't about how the respective branches of the military work together to achieve a given goal, its a focus on why Marines don't like to be referred to as Soldiers. I was asked a question, and I answered it. For you to pass judgment on the Marine Corps because you don't like my attitude, proves your stupidity. Save your analogies because they're rather weak, and your shaky comparisons bore me.

Instead, maybe you should take a step back and contemplate whether or not you have the intestinal fortitude to do what my brothers and sisters in arms do for a living? From the guy working to fix my pay, to the girl covered in grease from putting the wrench time on a 7-ton, or to 20 year old in a third world country who is cleaning up dead bodies and rebuilding schools after a natural disaster; this profession is demanding. When the orders come down the pipe and you're working 16 hour days, on top of grueling physical training, preparing for a deployment to Iraq, you need a certain level of pride to keep sights set on the target.

You could never do this. You wouldn't survive. Lead, follow or get the f**k out of the way, kid. I have never went into any detail about what I do, or how I truly feel about this lifestyle, and that alone should give you enough grounds to realize that you should have kept your mouth shut. What the hell does patriotism have to do with anything? Where did I throw that in there? You're reaching for the sake of invoking a petty argument because my last post was abrasive and the cockiness just rubbed you the wrong way. So the f**k what?

It is true, when a serviceman dies in the line of fire, tears are shed, he/she is missed and we all mourn. I've lost a couple close friends in Iraq, recently. Both of which were part of other branches. I never respected them any less because of their branch affiliation. Your ignorance misinterprets this and your lack of understanding could easily be fixed by asking a few questions, instead of making assumptions. You're pathetic, and the more I type, the more it makes me sick that we have Forces and Divisions in certain locations to prevent widespread hostility that could affect your life.

How many times have you seen a guerilla jump in front of your up-armored vehicle with C4 taped to his body? How many friends have you lost in combat? When have you had to pick up the remains of a child from a ditch? I've earned my right to have an elitist mindset, and so have the other branches. Ever heard of friendly competition? I'll rag on squids, flyboys and 'sarges' all day, but even though we're fighting toward the same goal, there is always something one branch does better than the other. Marines (Devil Dogs, Warriors, Leathernecks, Killers, etc), we are warfighters, and I never once bragged about this on Createblog because simple minded shits like you would never understand.

If you can't stand behind me, feel free to stand in front of me.

The discussion isn't about how the respective branches of the military work together to achieve a given goal, its a focus on why Marines don't like to be referred to as Soldiers. I was asked a question, and I answered it. For you to pass judgment on the Marine Corps because you don't like my attitude, proves your stupidity. Save your analogies because they're rather weak, and your shaky comparisons bore me.

Instead, maybe you should take a step back and contemplate whether or not you have the intestinal fortitude to do what my brothers and sisters in arms do for a living? From the guy working to fix my pay, to the girl covered in grease from putting the wrench time on a 7-ton, or to 20 year old in a third world country who is cleaning up dead bodies and rebuilding schools after a natural disaster; this profession is demanding. When the orders come down the pipe and you're working 16 hour days, on top of grueling physical training, preparing for a deployment to Iraq, you need a certain level of pride to keep sights set on the target.

You could never do this. You wouldn't survive. Lead, follow or get the f**k out of the way, kid. I have never went into any detail about what I do, or how I truly feel about this lifestyle, and that alone should give you enough grounds to realize that you should have kept your mouth shut. What the hell does patriotism have to do with anything? Where did I throw that in there? You're reaching for the sake of invoking a petty argument because my last post was abrasive and the cockiness just rubbed you the wrong way. So the f**k what?

It is true, when a serviceman dies in the line of fire, tears are shed, he/she is missed and we all mourn. I've lost a couple close friends in Iraq, recently. Both of which were part of other branches. I never respected them any less because of their branch affiliation. Your ignorance misinterprets this and your lack of understanding could easily be fixed by asking a few questions, instead of making assumptions. You're pathetic, and the more I type, the more it makes me sick that we have Forces and Divisions in certain locations to prevent widespread hostility that protect people like you.

How many times have you seen a guerilla jump in front of your up-armored vehicle with C4 taped to his body? How many friends have you lost in combat? When have you had to pick up the remains of a child from a ditch? I've earned my right to have an elitist mindset, and so have the other branches. Ever heard of friendly competition? I'll rag on squids, flyboys and 'sarges' all day, but even though we're fighting toward the same goal, there is always something one branch does better than the other. Marines (Devil Dogs, Warriors, Leathernecks, Killers, etc), we are warfighters, and I never once bragged about this on Createblog because simple minded shits like you would never understand.

If you can't stand behind me, feel free to stand in front of me.

Ok um first of all my point was that it doesn't matter if you "pay them." Big whoop, you pay your taxes. So do they. You don't f**king own them and they owe you nothing in return. That's the point I was trying to make.

Second of all, it's not elitism. It's rivalry, which has been there for a long ass time between the armed forces. Rivalry is NEEDED in ANY company or organization, not just within the armed forces. It's what drives improvement.


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And sorry, I don't like to be called Chris, Chrissy, or even Christina. I prefer to be called Christine. Keep calling me Chris or Chrissy, and I might let it slide the first few times. After a while I'm just going to start smacking you upside the head. It's a preference, a-hole. Respect that. If someone told me they prefered to be called Hong Kong-ese or Pacific Islander I would respect that because those are THEIR personal wishes.

tung. i have nothing against you, but you need to stay the f**k out of debate. YOUR f**king elitism is really getting to me, and to the rest of this community. get the f**k of debate if you're just going to dick around. srsly, you havent contributed to this thread whatosever. all youve basically said was ' yeah. i agree. '

IMO I there are similarities and differences between the two. They both have their own separate entities and focus on different aspects.

Is a marine a solider? I would say no, but Soulja boy is.

Yuuuuuuua!

That's all you had to say dude. That is all.

This thread is pretty much useless now because we already answered that Marines are Soldiers by definition. And as acting GOD I declare the winner to those who have said Marines are indeed Soldiers. From there on its just some thread about Elitist Marines and a pet peeve of theirs when people call them "Soldiers", something that doesn't seem debatable nor belongs in the debate forum.

Now I don't mean to ne qq'ing but I'm bit confused on the rules of the debate forum.















Okay so this will be my last post on this particular thread because as I said before it is useless and I would like to avoid any further controversy or personal attacks. No matter what I say I will still be a "simple, close minded little shit/f**k that is retarded that tends to be a stubborn little shit." Sure my one PS comment about school was distasteful but it was a retort to a personal attack towards me. But before this gets out of hand in a name calling, flaming contest I will be the bigger entity, GOD, and stop it right here before it gets out of hand.

way to take what he said completely out of context.

i love that quote in the end brandon. do you mind if i use it? it says it all.
sumiaki: i'm sorry but for you to say that brandon has an elitist mindset is just wrong because here you are telling us to call you "god" and i would never do that because you can never compare yourself to someone who is real. just like brandon who is a "REAL" marine. so get over yourself. and don't sit there and play that whole "ohh i'm being picked on for what i said" because it's not gonna work when you're gonna sit there and say "refer to me as god" you're out of your f*cking mind.

christine is right. it was taken way out of context this whole topic. the point was that marines feel that a "soldier" is an army member and they are completely different in some aspects. just the same as when i was a soldier i would never want to be called a marine because then i'd have to bitch slap yo ass. there has always been a conflict between the two branches but it's been going on for such a long time. but i'm not saying that we won't still be friends because without the marines, the army couldn't be who they are today. all branches work together to get the job done. and if you have a problem with giving the marines their respect of calling them a marine, then you don't even deserve the right to leave a comment on this topic.

Because of their pride in what they stand for... Some Marines understand that they're soldiers regardless. Others some how pretend that they're above the term "soldier" and would much rather be called a Marine. I even called my boy who's in the NAVY still and stationed in Japan and he said he's never seen a Marine or Sailor or what have you, get upset because they were called soldiers. And he's heard their superiors call them soldiers.


So sorry to shit all over your pride Brandon and Pandora.. but aint no Marine gonna do shit if you call them a soldier, unless they're so proud that it blinds their intelligence.

Nice try though =\

I guess the entire III Marine Expeditionary Force is too proud to acknowledge the term 'Soldier.'

EDIT//There's no use in attempting to explain the honor in what I do for a living. It's too "in your face" for people to handle.

According to Urban Dictionary



I thought this one was funny. :K

^ Describes a lot of the Marines I know, lol.

"I am cocky, self-centered, overbearing, and do not know the meaning of fear, for I am fear itself. " HAHA

Know who's pretty f**king badass?

The Spetsnaz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spetsnaz

It's on a individual level... not generally all Marines are the same =\


Answer to your edit..
That's maybe because you don't serve the military? I can give you a few places around the world where you can visit, where the whole population of that area have the attitude of "in your face"... and most likely kill you and turn you into a coffee table or a lamp shade just for being a foreigner.

So you're not all that special

I'm sorry Tama but that was completely uncalled for. Excuse me if I'm blowing things out of proportion but for someone who has been in the military himself, you sure have a funny way of supporting those still in. I find myself even offended...

"That's maybe because you don't serve the military? "

What the hell is that supposed to mean? I'm not in the military so I have no idea what the f**k people who are go through, but I have a boyfriend going to Iraq in a couple months and you're gonna throw THAT shit in his face? Maybe I'm reading you wrong. If I am, feel free to correct me.

Uh... I'm starting to see a pattern in which some of the females here take things completely the wrong way and blow everything out of proportion.
I'm confused; fameONE's your boyfriend or uh... the other dood (brain fart on his name)

brandon changed his name to fameone.

Ah, I didn't know that... I thought fameone was just some other member lol

ok you got confused. i thought you were saying brandon didn't serve the military, as in he didnt do shit. and it just struck a nerve. no biggy.

now you used the term "females". so what are you implying? i have a hubby who's in iraq right now and i've served so something like this is serious to me if you were referring to me as well.

I'm closing this.

-Soldier is a blanket term
-per the dictionary, it applies to all servicemen
-Marines like to be called Marines

Fin.