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MFDOOM
Feb 9 2008, 05:25 AM
Most of you toys think that self-respecting hiphop heads actually listen to artists like Soulja Boy, Gucci Mane, Young Jeezy and the like, but you prove your n00bish, toy-like existence by not recognizing the classic albums. The following albums that I will post (and dispute) in this thread are certified hiphop classics from a purist's standpoint.




On April 19, 1994, the world of hiphop was taken by storm for, what was considered, the epitome of east coast hiphop of that time period. Nasty Nas dropped Illmatic. The entire album provides a visual of sitting on a an old bench in the dead of winter, bullshittin' with brothas from around the way about so and so, and what happened when the cops came through. Its like getting a hood lecture from that one young cat that ran with the older kids and was wise well beyond his years. If you're ignorant to Illmatic, you've been missing out.

Halftime (video)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KTOg_RGOEBg

NY State of Mind (audio)
http://media.imeem.com/m/9ZcGqjeZty/aus=false/
fameONE
Feb 9 2008, 09:47 AM
I see this turning into a real hiphop vs. radio rap debate really quick unless you better support your claims that they're classic. And The Source's 5 mic rating system has been flawed ever since Lil' Kim got the honor and Common's BE didn't. But I have to agree; of all Nas' released albums, Illmatic remains to be the best of the best. The one flaw it has is the length. 39 minutes? That just doesn't cut it. However, it is some of the best 39 minutes hiphop has to offer.
misoshiru
Feb 9 2008, 11:08 AM
i don't even know who gucci mane is. mellow.gif
and i don't listen to soulja boy or young jeezy.




then again, i never claimed to know anything about hiphop.
fameONE
Feb 9 2008, 11:14 AM
QUOTE(misoshiru @ Feb 9 2008, 10:08 AM) *
i don't even know who gucci mane is. mellow.gif
and i don't listen to soulja boy or young jeezy.
then again, i never claimed to know anything about hiphop.


Follow a few of these threads, and you might just find something you really like.
brooklyneast05
Feb 9 2008, 02:09 PM


Low End Theory - A Tribe Called Quest


i've been listening to this just about my whole life. my dad played this album constantly for years and years. i liked this when i was five, and my liking for it has only grown as i've become more conscious and informed about hip hop. i love the beats on this album. the lyrics are concious, clever and still stay fun. they flow perfectly over the jazz infused tracks. the sampling is amazing. i can't find anything that i don't like about this album.

i've argued a lot on whether low end theory is better, or midnight marauders is. it's close, i always choose this one though.

Check the Rhime:
http://resources.imeem.com/resources/flash...f&isEmbed=1

who could get tired of this? always makes me feel good.

TheFiasco017
Feb 9 2008, 02:44 PM
To MF Doom:

I Thought "It Was Written" Was Better ^_^



Bone Thungs N Harmony-E.1999 Eternal

Bone Thugs Might Not Be Lyricists, But I Think We Can All Agree That They Are One Of The (if Not The Best) Hip-Hop Groups Of All Time..

Lupe Fiasco- Food & Liquor

Lupe Fiasco Is One Of The Premier Lyricists Of his Time..Along With Ppl Like Common, Talib Kweli, Mos Def. Etc. thumbsup.gif
brooklyneast05
Feb 9 2008, 03:22 PM
i don't think i'm prepared to put fiaco's name with common, kweli, or mos def just yet.
TheFiasco017
Feb 9 2008, 03:54 PM
<---Look at name lol ^_^

Im Biased ^_^

fameONE
Feb 9 2008, 10:13 PM
QUOTE(TheFiasco017 @ Feb 9 2008, 02:54 PM) *
<---Look at name lol ^_^

Im Biased ^_^



Let me dumb it down for you...

Although Lupe Fiasco is quickly setting himself up to be recognized as great, there is too many clouds of doubt concerning the future of his career. He's even said himself that he's getting tired of hiphop and will bow out of the game after his third LP is dropped. Longevity isn't a required to be great, but it does help. Lupe is still aquafresh, he needs that extra kick to push him further in the right direction.
MFDOOM
Feb 9 2008, 10:32 PM
QUOTE(TheFiasco017 @ Feb 9 2008, 03:44 PM) *
To MF Doom:

I Thought "It Was Written" Was Better ^_^
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f179/Len...Was_Written.jpg
Bone Thungs N Harmony-E.1999 Eternal
http://www.bonethugsnharmony.co.uk/images/e1999BIG.gif
Bone Thugs Might Not Be Lyricists, But I Think We Can All Agree That They Are One Of The (if Not The Best) Hip-Hop Groups Of All Time..

Lupe Fiasco- Food & Liquor
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z280/Ja...Lupe-Fiasco.jpg
Lupe Fiasco Is One Of The Premier Lyricists Of his Time..Along With Ppl Like Common, Talib Kweli, Mos Def. Etc. thumbsup.gif


Son, we need to talk...

If you're going to stake claim, then back it up with some facts, dunny.

Lupe is one of the premier lyricists of all time? How. Explain. You like him, great. Grab one of all my albums and stop daydreamin.

QUOTE
<---Look at name lol ^_^

Im Biased ^_^


Try putting that aside.

QUOTE
Let me dumb it down for you...

Although Lupe Fiasco is quickly setting himself up to be recognized as great, there is too many clouds of doubt concerning the future of his career. He's even said himself that he's getting tired of hiphop and will bow out of the game after his third LP is dropped. Longevity isn't a required to be great, but it does help. Lupe is still aquafresh, he needs that extra kick to push him further in the right direction.


Herbie Hancock.

QUOTE
i don't think i'm prepared to put fiaco's name with common, kweli, or mos def just yet.


and for good reason, too.

QUOTE
Low End Theory - A Tribe Called Quest


i've been listening to this just about my whole life. my dad played this album constantly for years and years. i liked this when i was five, and my liking for it has only grown as i've become more conscious and informed about hip hop. i love the beats on this album. the lyrics are concious, clever and still stay fun. they flow perfectly over the jazz infused tracks. the sampling is amazing. i can't find anything that i don't like about this album.

i've argued a lot on whether low end theory is better, or midnight marauders is. it's close, i always choose this one though.

Check the Rhime:
http://resources.imeem.com/resources/flash...f&isEmbed=1

who could get tired of this? always makes me feel good.


For years, I've heard that this album would be better paired with Midnight Marauders and released as a double CD. Much like how Ice Cube's Amerikkkaz Most Wanted and Death Certificate albums sound like they could be one. The Low End Theory gets a little more rugged than it predecessor.




TheFiasco017
Feb 9 2008, 11:02 PM
i didnt say hes one of the best lyricists of all time =|

Just his time..which is the 2000's..
fire
Feb 9 2008, 11:31 PM
If you listen to Lupe's rhymes theyre not that great.
fameONE
Feb 9 2008, 11:37 PM
QUOTE(fire @ Feb 9 2008, 10:31 PM) *
If you listen to Lupe's rhymes theyre not that great.


When I was Po' I was Lo'
Now me and my Chaps cop Purple Labels

That doesn't mean he isn't good. Just because he's not on the Common tip:

I was rollin' around and in my mind it occured
What if God was a her?
Would treat her the same?
Would I still be runnin' game- on her?
And which types of ways would I want her
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