the presidental campain shouldnt be about race or religous backround. it should be about the best canidate and what they can to for america.

Yes it should. On top of that, what they did in High School and College should be brought to light, as well as ways they beat other political opponents. This is all very valid information that the general public needs to be aware of and focus their attention on.

Don't forget to add whether or not they inhaled. ;)

I inhaled. Hell, isn't that what you're supposed to do?

Agreed. Especially if he says..
I think the radical view is to say that we’re going to change the definition of marriage so that it can mean two men, two women, a man and three women, a man and a child, a man and animal.

animal.....

Obama belongs to a very afrocentric church. He was educated as a child in an Islamic school in Indonesia.

I couldn't care less what his religion is, or what any politician's religion is. Unless he changes his platform, I would never ever consider voting for him.

Thanks, and I appreciate your pointing out my stupidity. That's fine if you prefer to see it that way. Still, that wouldn't change the fact that I would vote for someone who followed a religion I didn't agree with if I agreed with his/her platform. You misinterpreted me - I never said that a person's religious background does not affect that person's character, and I'm not trying to say that he will definitely put his religious morals aside while in office - that's impossible and quite illogical to think that way. What I am saying is that I am impressed with his personality, even if the rumors about him being raised as a muslim were true, and out of all the candidates I agree with him the most.

Here's Obama's church

http://www.tucc.org

It talks all kinds of African issues like racism and injustices, and the African Diaspora... Guess what guys? You can help stop the African Diaspora!

1) Sell all you own in the US
2) Buy a one way ticket to African country of choice
3) ???
4) AIDS!

But yeah, like I said, I don't care what his religion is. His platform caters to the far left of American politics. You want change? It's going to be change in the form of higher taxes, more abortions and bigger government. No thanks.

That's exactly what I want. Kids suck. More taxes and larger government allows for more socialization. Good things.

I, too, don't see the problem in any of those things; however, I don't see how if Obama gets elected, there will be any more abortions than if any other candidate was elected (pending they didn't outlaw abortion, which they wouldn't, because that would cause way too much of a stir).

that's what im wondering too

Public funding of abortions. Bullshit that my tax dollars will go towards slaughtering babies.

You like paying taxes so much? Let's have a flat tax or regressive tax!

f**kin' A right.

Oh, boohoo! Would you rather girls shoving clothes hangers up their love holes again? Shit, I have to pay for religious proselytizing for drunks and morons, why can't you pay to kill a few more of those morons?

Need a few extra dollars? Tax religion.

Doesn't matter, hopefully once he's elected people can accept the fact that not all Muslims aren't brain washed drones and are actually good people.

Obama FTW!

how does that even make sense? obama is christian

And your point?... I never said, "Obama is Muslim". Obama has embraced Islam and has a great understanding of Islam. He doesn't use his religion for his politics... so why does this thread even exist anyways? Is there something in the media that's using his religion against him in the election?

The CNN link provided has nothin to do with religion... unless I missed something.

well yeah there was, that was the point of the thread. i mean you quoted it yourself in the post above.



the reason the thread existed was for that reason obviously. not because he does, but because it was speculated.

it didn't make sense to me because you acted as him being elected would prove to people that all muslims aren't brainwashed. i didn't see how it would prove anything though. that's all.

if you'll notice the link provided is a link to a blog. it updates constantly, and this thread is from a month ago, so obviously the article that it went to at that time is different than now.

Yeah I didn't realize that it changed.

I thought this was a very recent thread created because all of a sudden now the media again is using his religious background against him.

As for why I said once he's elected, people will realize that not all Muslims are brainwashed etc... is because I believe (my opinion) that Obama will make friendly ties with the leaders of the Middle East in order to sooth things over. That's what we need... we need a better understanding just like they need a better understanding, instead of this war. And Obama hopefully will pull the troops ASAP.

For the record, I don't support faith based initiatives either.

If it's only a few girls irresponsible enough to do such a disgusting thing, then yes, I'd prefer that over millions of abortions per year.

Instead of abortions... why not just quickly kill the prisoners. Instead of giving them life in prison and making us pay with our tax dollars for those scum bags. There's a reason why they're there, obviously they're not worthy of being in society. Kill em' all, f**k em.

Shut up.

So yes to abortions of innocent children... but not to kill prisoners (at a quicker pace, instead of waitin years at a time) who are on death row or life sentence?

Get your head straight.

If you want to discuss the "ethics" of abortion:
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t&p=2173646

Note: "It's wrong," isn't a very convincing argument - especially when you're trying to convince an amoralist.

This is a debate thread... stop posting if you're gonna act childish.

Take your own advice?

Now now guys, let's stop this mindless incessant spam and get back on topic!

If you take a look at obama's race on tv.

When the pledge start's and if u whach him.

You shall see that he does not do the pledge he's very unamerican i don't think i can live with that fact that your "unamerican"

Nothing against black people but it's what i saw and it's dissapointing.

the clinton people were like, LOOK OMG HE DOESNT PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE VERY WELL! Then you look and see all clinton's cronies aren't saying anything while obama's actually mouthing the words

What?

I guess he's talking about that one picture where Obama doesn't have his hand over his heart during the pledge? Even though it probably just hadn't started yet. But uhhhhh, yeah, nothing against black people.

Obama missed the State of the Black Union, Clinton attended it.

Obama is a fake black, Clinton is the first black first lady.

What's more important? Winning over Texas or the State of the Black Union?

I don't know why is it should matter.
If that's the case then we wouldn't have all these
rights. people just starting to knock him over stupid pointless shit that's not even relevant.

barack out with your caucus out!

Cute.

Seriously =\

I wouldn't give a f**k or f**k less about the SBU if I were Obama. Does that make me any less Black because a bunch of hypocritical leaders (hungry niggas), who supposedly are the beacons of the Black Community, want to show their face.

^seriously. i didn't get what the big deal over him not going was. they act like he isn't busy right now.

BARACK IRAQ HUSSEIN OBAMA BIN LADEN

Yeah, and on top of that, he offered to send Michelle, but apparently they refused. Tavis Smiley is a shucking and jiving n*gga anyway.

WHOOPS Obama is done

Ahhh ha, you hate so much that he is going to kick the shit out of just about any republican candidate imaginable. Ahh ha, wow.

wtf? i dont put my hand over my heart either am I unamerican? well f**k you cause guess what...neither do some of our former presidents.

Sounds good for Africa, Asia or some Arab country - but not for the United States of America. I'm not some silly woman all googley-eyed over Barack Hussein Obama (sounds like Osama, doesn't it?) or some self-hating or misguided white person who feels I must vote for the black man to prove to the racist PC masters I'm not racist. Ironically, if Obama wasn't so light-skinned and handsome he wouldn't have made it this far, thanks to Soap Opera conditioning. Just ask Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or Alan Keyes.

Even if Senator Obama were qualified to be president, which he clearly is not, Barack Hussein Obama is not one from our White Israelite brethren that Scripture calls for in electing our leaders:

Deuteronomy 17
15 ...you shall surely set a king over you whom the LORD your God chooses; one from among your brethren you shall set as king over you; you may not set a foreigner over you, who is not your brother.

Let Senator Obama return to Africa and run for president there, if he pleases, among his own Gentile people, his own kind, his own brothers, rather than hypocritically remain in the United States like others who attend his Black Supremacist church.

Ron Paul is best for every color and creed, but it appears the United States is unworthy of such a leader who would actually uphold the Constitution. Ron Paul would demand and enact change for the better based upon our Constitution - not blather about or impose Socialist fantasies that contradict and undermine it.

"Whom God would destroy, He first sends mad." With the madness of those supporting McCain, and the madness of those supporting abominable Obama (or heinous Hillary), it appears our sins have reached such a point that stinks to High Heaven that God is giving our country over to madness before the German-EU destroys US. If we want Gentiles to rule over us, foreigners will rule over us.

are you f**king serious?