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Tung
For the past couple of years, the popularity of females as young as the age of 7 years old have been doing modeling called gravure. These types of models are called U-15. U-15 is short for "under 15", and is used when talking about junior idols. Most junior idols are called this until they reach the age of 16. If you go to Japan nowadays, you can find many shops solely selling only U-15 products such as magazine and DVDS. These girls are exposed in very revealing bikini, and they wear T-backs. T-backs are more revealing than thongs, and that's saying alot. I find it really disturbing that the U-15 industry is more popular than regular Japanese porno. Here's a link to show you what I am talking about. It's absoultely shocking.

http://u15japanesejunioridol.magnify.net/

There's men over 30 years old commening on the videos about how sexy they look, and wished they were naked. This is a 30 year old wanting to see a 12 year old naked? Are you kidding me? Do you think this is right or wrong?
doiink
BUT THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE.


THESE PREPUBESCENT GIRLS HAVE THE SAME BODIES AS GUYS MINUS A PENIS.
Tung
I've watched a couple of the videos, and I can tell you that the videos were pretty much borderline child pornography.

Actually some of the girls have G or F-Cup breasts. Saaya Irie anyone?
MissHygienic
Isn't the little girl appeal popular in Japan since the beginning of time? They love that shit.

Not that it makes this right, but it's nothing in comparison to prostitution and what you'll find in Thailand or other countries that lack a developed economy.
iDecay
QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Jan 21 2008, 02:51 PM) *
Actually some of the girls have G or F-Cup breasts.

Wtf.

That's disgusting. The Japanese find really interesting ways to get aroused. How do their parents approve of that?
doiink
lol oh the japanese and their fetishes
Tung
QUOTE(tininja @ Jan 21 2008, 02:57 PM) *
Wtf.

That's disgusting. The Japanese find really interesting ways to get aroused. How do their parents approve of that?

Actually it is the parents consent to have their children to do it.

http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2360

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A news crew follows around 6th grader Mai Sasaki, an 11-year-old junior idol whose father films and creates her photo books and DVD’s. In one particularly creepy scene, the cameraman father tells a lingerie-clad Mai to get on a bed and make a “lion pose.” He later jokes about how big her breasts have become. His blurred-out face and NTV’s background music only add to his creepy image.
karmakiller
That's... gross. If they did that here in the US they'd be in jail. There isn't a huge issue over younge models for me, but to be going around half naked. Ew.
love-issosweet
That's gross and really wrong. Yeah..that kind of modeling seems very provocative. What kind of parents would let their fricking kid wear butt floss underwear?
YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep
its their culture, they are people who think us americans are dumbass f**ks for thinking skinny is hot
sourire
Ah, most defintely wrong in Western culture. I did read a book on something like this before. It's kind of scary to me, but at the same time I don't want to be totally dismissive of another culture.
What I really want to know is how they manage to walk around with breasts that large without any back breakage.
jaeman
It's Japan, they like naked cartoons.
Spirited Away
QUOTE(YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep @ Jan 21 2008, 06:34 PM) *
its their culture, they are people who think us americans are dumbass f**ks for thinking skinny is hot

Um, really? Isn't more like a well-toned, healthy body is hot? I haven't heard a guy admit that he likes skinny girls before when skinny equal visible ribs.
Tung
QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jan 21 2008, 05:43 PM) *
Um, really? Isn't more like a well-toned, healthy body is hot? I haven't heard a guy admit that he likes skinny girls before when skinny equal visible ribs.


Actually apparently Eddie Little prefer skinny girls over well-toned healthy body girls. I mean who likes skinny girls is beyond me. It's like banging a twig.

Anyways back to the topic at hand people.
Joss-eh-lime
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yup. some people need to be arrested for this.
those kids should be playing in the sandbox, not posing half naked.
but i guess japan can do whatever the hell they want. its not america.
LoveToMySilas
Thats really sick. I'm viewing some of these videos and it just makes me sick...its like child pornography. Most of these girls aren't even developed yet! I can't believe they approve of this in Japan.
YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep
QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jan 21 2008, 05:43 PM) *
Um, really? Isn't more like a well-toned, healthy body is hot? I haven't heard a guy admit that he likes skinny girls before when skinny equal visible ribs.

Then that heavily defines what you believe is skinny.
Spirited Away
QUOTE(YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep @ Jan 21 2008, 10:18 PM) *
Then that heavily defines what you believe is skinny.


Not me, magazine polls, random street surveys by magazines, working at a gymn for four years and hearing people describe "skinny", and from hearing guy friends talk =)

So, Jessica Alba is hot and she's not skinny; she's shapely and toned... pretty much 90% of men will agree.

Edit: So yea, like someone said earlier, it's not only that there are people who'd pay to watch these girls, it's a bigger problem (IMO) that parents are letting their daughters be portrayed like this.
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH
DAMMM!! thxx fo da LINK homieee!!!

YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep
QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jan 21 2008, 08:37 PM) *
Not me, magazine polls, random street surveys by magazines, working at a gymn for four years and hearing people describe "skinny", and from hearing guy friends talk =)

So, Jessica Alba is hot and she's not skinny; she's shapely and toned... pretty much 90% of men will agree.

Edit: So yea, like someone said earlier, it's not only that there are people who'd pay to watch these girls, it's a bigger problem (IMO) that parents are letting their daughters be portrayed like this.

Well, as much I damn well agree with you, there is some speculation to be said about celebrities like Nicole Richie who starve themselves constantly to look what you define as "skinny."

Also, Japan's different, thats just the way it is. Their R rated movies are 16 and above, not 17. Age is subjective. For instance, when a 15 year old female gets kidnapped, we think of them as ignorant babies who couldn't think for themselves. However, when a 15 teenager accidently kills his neighbor trying to do a wrestling move, all of sudden we think hes an adult. Yeah, that was a rip off of Dave Chappelle, but just clearing my point.
monster
lolicon. get 'em while they're ripe.
pandamonium
im sorry but i knew of this already,

there were asian tv shows that i saw on youtube that had little girls like that dressing up really slutty and dancing like that too. as young as like 4-5 years old. They made them dance and stuff, and everyone was laughing but i though of it as nasty.

hm.
michellerrific
coming from Japanese culture, this isn't surprising. theyre horny people, no doubt. but seriously, kids under TEN, now that's messed up.
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH
no... SHIETT madd nicee babyyy!!! oooo yeaahhH!!! dey needa get little baby da dance n shiet 2...
jaeman
QUOTE(Autobahn @ Jan 22 2008, 02:28 PM) *
coming from Japanese culture, this isn't surprising. theyre horny people, no doubt. but seriously, kids under TEN, now that's messed up.


I concur. Then again, if they're willing then I don't have a say.
WarMachine
This definitely isn't uncommon. Age is nothing but a number out here. As sad and sick as it may be, for most Japanese men, who can't get ass any way other than paying for it; if there's grass on the field...

Even at your local whorehouse, many of the girls working there, turning tricks, aren't even of age to sign a government document, let alone get into a nightclub, and they're selling their bodies for money.

Also, keep in mind that human trafficking is one of the cash crops for local Yakuza. They often get young girls from surrounding countries, promise them a better life and an entertainment visa, only to have them washing the asses of grown men, giving them massages and getting them off.
Steven
QUOTE(monster @ Jan 21 2008, 11:12 PM) *
lolicon. get 'em while they're ripe.

Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed. Grease em up, imo.


@ the person saying people thinking skinny is sick:

It's human nature to seek the healthiest mate. It's not like society shapes our basic instincts.

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Sex is in there. We naturally go for a healthy mate, and we know that people who are in shape tend to be skinny over obese/fat. It's not rocket science.
monster
these girls are all ugly looking, btw.
EddieV
QUOTE(MissHygienic @ Jan 21 2008, 05:54 PM) *
Isn't the little girl appeal popular in Japan since the beginning of time? They love that shit.

Not that it makes this right, but it's nothing in comparison to prostitution and what you'll find in Thailand or other countries that lack a developed economy.


You're right though, my family's from Thailand, whenever I go there visit, there are things there that make me disgusted.
MissHygienic
QUOTE(Sulfur @ Jan 22 2008, 01:50 PM) *
You're right though, my family's from Thailand, whenever I go there visit, there are things there that make me disgusted.

I can only imagine. It makes me sad to know about it, even though it's so out of my reach, how many children are sold to unworthy faggots each year. I just hope, within time, Thailand cleans itself up.
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH
QUOTE(monster @ Jan 22 2008, 10:35 AM) *
these girls are all ugly looking, btw.

dunn mattaa

TURNN DA LIGHTT OF!!! bodyy nicee... oo yeee!! Uuhh UUhhh!!
Spirited Away
QUOTE(YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep @ Jan 21 2008, 11:12 PM) *
Well, as much I damn well agree with you, there is some speculation to be said about celebrities like Nicole Richie who starve themselves constantly to look what you define as "skinny."

Also, Japan's different, thats just the way it is. Their R rated movies are 16 and above, not 17. Age is subjective. For instance, when a 15 year old female gets kidnapped, we think of them as ignorant babies who couldn't think for themselves. However, when a 15 teenager accidently kills his neighbor trying to do a wrestling move, all of sudden we think hes an adult. Yeah, that was a rip off of Dave Chappelle, but just clearing my point.


I don't think Richie really wanted to look like a skeleton. As for how speculations go, many thought she had an eating disorder, and I don't disagree with them. She's gained some weight since then, so again, I don't think she starved herself to achieve my defined "skinny" look.

While I see the supposed subjectivity in age, wouldn't the lack of an objective view on age be potentially dangerous for young girls?

I know Japan has statutory rape laws. Do you know what is the age of consent for this law though? I assume from the trend of ages you've presented, it'll be 16? Can you confirm?

As for Chappelle, humans tend to sympathize with the victim rather than the aggressor. I don't agree that a person would call a victim of a kidnapping an ignorant baby (unless he/she is a young child), do you have an example of someone doing this? It may be on case by case basis.

The accidental killing of another person committed by a young boy might be viewed as one adult hurting another, but thanks to our justice system, the young boy won't be tried as an adult. Involuntary manslaughter will give the boy a chance. People will think what they want, but the law is there to protect people, preserve justice (yadi yadi). People who'll mouth off the boy for the accidental killing probably never put any thought into their condemnation and need to brush up on their basic laws.

Chappelle is right on superficial level, but I hope you'll agree that most of us are capable of deeper genuine thought.
YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep
QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jan 22 2008, 01:45 PM) *
Chappelle is right on superficial level, but I hope you'll agree that most of us are capable of deeper genuine thought.

I really do hope thats true, but most might be pushing it.
Jeng
lil youngins doin sum nasty stuff des days
interpretation
Ick. D:
Jennifer
QUOTE(Autobahn @ Jan 22 2008, 04:28 PM) *
coming from Japanese culture, this isn't surprising. theyre horny people, no doubt. but seriously, kids under TEN, now that's messed up.


I agree..
That's seriously messed up, tormenting their brains at such a young age. Its.. ick!
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