Im positive Im goin to heaven...

There's no proof of heaven's existence, but you believe it exists. And even though there's no proof of it's existence and the guidelines for entry vary from cult to cult, you believe that, by your standards, that you'll go to heaven? Aren't we just a Saint?!

But Im not looking to debate or argue, I was just tryin to make a point.

Then get the f**k out of debate.

how does it make sense to say faith in waking up everyday is the same as faith in going to heaven?

you know why people think they are going to wake up everyday??? becuase they do wake up everyday. it's further proven every single time they wake up. that is completely irrelevant to having faith you are going to go heaven which you have ZERO experience with.
if something has reasonable logic, proof, and prior experience why the hell would you classify that as faith? that's like the polar opposite of "faith".
it doesn't take "faith" for me to know these things. i know them becuase i've experienced them everyday that i've been alive so far. there's no reason to think such basic facts of life would randomly switch up. even if i did want to sit here and worry about not waking up it would be pointless becuase i can't choose any alternative. i have to sleep regardless.

omg she's not calm! it must be the sign of the devil.

Its funny when people are a bitch to people online for no reason.. its shows how immature they are.

you know what else shows how immature people are? when they believe stupid shit like we'll all go to happy smile place in the sky if we all treat each other right by not having sex with one another outside of wedlock.

Your right.. there is no proof that heaven exists.. cause you cant see it. You have to have faith to believe in Heaven. And your saying thats stupid, right? Correct me if Im wrong. But, dont you practice faith every day of your life? You go to sleep and have faith that you will wake up the next morning, you drive to work and have faith that someone isnt going to cut you off and your going to smash into another car and go to the hospital. You drop your kid off at school and have faith that nothing bad will happen to him in those eight hours.

You're not trying to shove what you believe down my throat? You're shoving faith down my throat.

The fact that you're talking about "practicing faith every day of your life" does not apply to everyone. And that you're basically saying that everyone applies faith every day of their life to me, is in a way of pushing faith into my faith. Maybe you don't get that since obviously you practice faith in every bit of your life. But I certainly don't. I also assume that you're Christian. Are you going to have to pray to god now that you've been swearing and ask him for forgiveness and have faith that he's going to forgive you?

Actually, immaturity is when your too intolerant of other's beliefs that you cant be civilized in your responses. Talking about maturity, when is it mature to call someone a "moron" and a "prude" when they express their opinion?

you suck.

Melanie I bet you're ugly.

A losing bet. How much do you want to lay on the line?

Oh, thanks. I bet your ugly too.

A losing bet. How much do you want to lay on the line?

Ok. Seriously. I'm going to give it until this evening but if I check here and people are still posting this way, I'm going to take the Debate Forum offline.

Oh, but this is so much fun!

Ok. Seriously. I'm going to give it until this evening but if I check here and people are still posting this way, I'm going to take the Debate Forum offline.

uhhh why would the debate forum get taken offline? if that most likely ugly chick and steven can't post right then warn them or disable their posting, or in steven's case, praise him, not taking an entire forum offline so that everyone can't have access.

Please take the time to read this first post and pray that prayer to God at the bottom of it if you haven't yet.

Please take the time to read this first post and pray that prayer to God at the bottom of it if you haven't yet.

Jesus was just a schizophrenic. Praying is not only a waste of time, but a waste of breathe and thought.

ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD KNOW:

1. REALIZE THAT YOU ARE A SINNER AND IN NEED OF A SAVIOR:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.

2. BECAUSE OF OUR SINS, WE DIE BOTH SPIRITUALLY AND PHYSICALLY, BUT GOD SENT HIS SON TO TAKE OUR PUNISHMENT AND GIVE US A CHANCE NOT TO HAVE TO GO TO HELL.

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.

3. IF WE WILL ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS OUR LORD WITH OUR MOUTHS AND BELIEVE IN OUR HEARTS THAT HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD, BY DOING THIS WE ARE RECEIVING HIM:

Ro 10:9,10 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: {power: or, the right, or, privilege}
(KJV)

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus and asking Him to forgive you for your sins and save you. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.

Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS? DO YOU ACCEPT WHAT HE DID FOR YOU TO PAY FOR YOUR SINS?

4. If you are willing to receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior please pray this right now, from your heart to God,

"Dear LORD JESUS, I believe that YOU died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I ask you to come into my heart and forgive me for my sins, take me to heaven when I die. I now receive You as my Lord and Savior. Thank You for saving me. In Jesus holy name, Amen."

If you prayed that prayer from your heart to God, and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven when you die.

Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.

this whole die go to heaven send your son to die for us and we will all be saved
all that stuff it's too complicated
i swear this is the most useless thing i've ever heard of it's like a game with too many rules.

why can't you just die and go to heaven why does this "god" gotta make so many rules and be overly dramatic with everything
so two people f*cked up and didnt listen to him
why does everyone suffer for it
makes absolutley no sense we weren't around
then he sends his son to save us from sin
he couldn't just do it himself i mean sending your son to die doesn't de me anything cause if u think bout it he isn't really ddead if he can come back
nobody on this planet can die and come back so what was the point he died and came back
soo that's supposed to be a sign of saving us mind you it's the same god that sent a tidal wave to wipe everyone all out too.

to me sounds like a dictator that basically say his word is law
if you don't follow it's a sin and obviously there are people who don't believe or don't follow so they must be goin to hell the only way you "go to heaven" is to live the life that god has set for you following his rules and living the way he wants you to. if you don't then burn in hell sounds like a dictator you go against them then it's the end of the line for you.
arrrrghhh these topics annoy me
i really need to stop posting cause it's not like it's changing anyones minds on religion or god