Full Version: HOW TO GET TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU DIE
Oh, well that sucks.
QUOTE(pinacoolada @ Dec 4 2007, 05:26 PM) 
Personally, I don't take the bible literally. So all those excerpts from the bible that you posted? They don't mean much to me. Think about it. The bible was written down hundreds of years after it had been passed down orally.
Wrong. It was written by first hand eye witnessess.
Ever heard of the game telephone? In a small amount of time, and between a significantly fewer amount of people, the message is changed.
Didn't happen that way, besides God dictated EVERY word anyway.
I believe in God despite that, but I don't think it's cool to be trying to convert people like this.
Jesus disagrees. I agree with Jesus.
Also...it doesn't require all that to be saved. God's love is beyond human comprehension; he will forgive you no matter what as long as you truly regret your sins, and ask for forgiveness. That's all you need to go to heaven.
You need to repent of your sins and turn to Jesus for salvation and accept Him as your Lord and Savior. That's right. The prayer simply sums that all up and confirms it with God.
Wrong. It was written by first hand eye witnessess.
Ever heard of the game telephone? In a small amount of time, and between a significantly fewer amount of people, the message is changed.
Didn't happen that way, besides God dictated EVERY word anyway.
I believe in God despite that, but I don't think it's cool to be trying to convert people like this.
Jesus disagrees. I agree with Jesus.
Also...it doesn't require all that to be saved. God's love is beyond human comprehension; he will forgive you no matter what as long as you truly regret your sins, and ask for forgiveness. That's all you need to go to heaven.
You need to repent of your sins and turn to Jesus for salvation and accept Him as your Lord and Savior. That's right. The prayer simply sums that all up and confirms it with God.
My responses are in bold.
QUOTE(xfrodobagginsx @ Dec 10 2007, 12:15 AM)
My responses are in bold.
so are mine,
this is not a debate, gtfo you crazy ass
^yeah, it is a debate...
This is such a good tutorial. I really think everyone should read this; it's so helpful. I feel so much better after have absorbed all this knowledge.
It's obvious to tell the difference between Christians and Aethists in this forum.
Aethists flame, insult, and overall try to gun down the OP. So much hate. If there were a word similar to racist except for religion, you guys would definitely be it. You guys would be the KKK seriously, I bet you'd lynch the OP if you had the chance.
The Christians, even the ones who disagree with the OP (like myself), respond in a non-aggressive manner.
Sure, there are hypocritical Christians out there who do drugs or run guns or whatnot, but you can't make a generalization about Germans according to what the Nazis did, could you?
Let's say this OP believes every word he says. He comes here, not offending anybody, and offers you a way, that he believes sincerely in, to go to heaven. Assuming this is FALSE, and that you choose not to accept what he says, at LEAST show him the courtesy and gratitude for having spent time in trying to "save" you guys.
If you don't believe in God, at least try to follow Ghandi's example. So much teen anger and angst on these forums. I can't believe the insane amount of HATE towards Christians.
Let's say some guy offers you pie. But no, you hate pie. What do you do?
Most of you guys would take the pie, shove it in said guy's face, and walk away, perhaps after shoving a broom up their ass.
Aethists flame, insult, and overall try to gun down the OP. So much hate. If there were a word similar to racist except for religion, you guys would definitely be it. You guys would be the KKK seriously, I bet you'd lynch the OP if you had the chance.
The Christians, even the ones who disagree with the OP (like myself), respond in a non-aggressive manner.
Sure, there are hypocritical Christians out there who do drugs or run guns or whatnot, but you can't make a generalization about Germans according to what the Nazis did, could you?
Let's say this OP believes every word he says. He comes here, not offending anybody, and offers you a way, that he believes sincerely in, to go to heaven. Assuming this is FALSE, and that you choose not to accept what he says, at LEAST show him the courtesy and gratitude for having spent time in trying to "save" you guys.
If you don't believe in God, at least try to follow Ghandi's example. So much teen anger and angst on these forums. I can't believe the insane amount of HATE towards Christians.
Let's say some guy offers you pie. But no, you hate pie. What do you do?
Most of you guys would take the pie, shove it in said guy's face, and walk away, perhaps after shoving a broom up their ass.
QUOTE(Call911Quick @ Dec 10 2007, 04:37 AM)
It's obvious to tell the difference between Christians and Aethists in this forum.
Aethists flame, insult, and overall try to gun down the OP. So much hate. If there were a word similar to racist except for religion, you guys would definitely be it. You guys would be the KKK seriously, I bet you'd lynch the OP if you had the chance.
The Christians, even the ones who disagree with the OP (like myself), respond in a non-aggressive manner.
Sure, there are hypocritical Christians out there who do drugs or run guns or whatnot, but you can't make a generalization about Germans according to what the Nazis did, could you?
Let's say this OP believes every word he says. He comes here, not offending anybody, and offers you a way, that he believes sincerely in, to go to heaven. Assuming this is FALSE, and that you choose not to accept what he says, at LEAST show him the courtesy and gratitude for having spent time in trying to "save" you guys.
If you don't believe in God, at least try to follow Ghandi's example. So much teen anger and angst on these forums. I can't believe the insane amount of HATE towards Christians.
Let's say some guy offers you pie. But no, you hate pie. What do you do?
Most of you guys would take the pie, shove it in said guy's face, and walk away, perhaps after shoving a broom up their ass.
Aethists flame, insult, and overall try to gun down the OP. So much hate. If there were a word similar to racist except for religion, you guys would definitely be it. You guys would be the KKK seriously, I bet you'd lynch the OP if you had the chance.
The Christians, even the ones who disagree with the OP (like myself), respond in a non-aggressive manner.
Sure, there are hypocritical Christians out there who do drugs or run guns or whatnot, but you can't make a generalization about Germans according to what the Nazis did, could you?
Let's say this OP believes every word he says. He comes here, not offending anybody, and offers you a way, that he believes sincerely in, to go to heaven. Assuming this is FALSE, and that you choose not to accept what he says, at LEAST show him the courtesy and gratitude for having spent time in trying to "save" you guys.
If you don't believe in God, at least try to follow Ghandi's example. So much teen anger and angst on these forums. I can't believe the insane amount of HATE towards Christians.
Let's say some guy offers you pie. But no, you hate pie. What do you do?
Most of you guys would take the pie, shove it in said guy's face, and walk away, perhaps after shoving a broom up their ass.
As you know, aggression cannot be measured by words alone, it is also judged by behavior, and subtle aggression does not tantamount a lack of it. The OP is also aggressive, or do you not see it in your narrow pursuit of calling out all the aetheists here?
If you believe in God, try to not to aggravate people who don't by forcing things down their throat or coerce them to accept your words as truth. Offense, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. He may not think he's being offensive, but that doesn't mean what he thinks is right for everyone else.
Again, we're taught to avoid bring up politics and religion in polite conversation BECAUSE they cause CONFLICT and OFFEND people. That is a given. The OP blatantly ignores this so he should not expect anything more than the responses that were given to him in this thread.
Some folks are just more honest than others and some are callous in their honesty. However, that doesn't mean they're not honest.
There is no evidence of any hatred in this thread. Where did you get the idea? I see plenty of annoyance but no hate. Hate is burning women on the stakes, accusing them of being witches, or mass murdering and pillaging people who are not of the same faith.
And when you offer someone pie, that pie better be good, not something you cooked up in 5 minutes with the wrong ingredients. And, if a person turn down your offer, you shouldn't try to stuff it down their throats.
QUOTE(Call911Quick @ Dec 10 2007, 05:37 AM)
Most of you guys would take the pie, shove it in said guy's face, and walk away, perhaps after shoving a broom up their ass.
Only if that said guy was Jesus.
Oh dang.
QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Dec 10 2007, 12:15 PM)
Some folks are just more honest than others and some are callous in their honesty. However, that doesn't mean they're not honest.
There is no evidence of any hatred in this thread. Where did you get the idea? I see plenty if annoyance but no hate. Hate is burning women on the stakes, accusing them of being witches, or mass murdering and pillaging people who are not of the same faith.
There is no evidence of any hatred in this thread. Where did you get the idea? I see plenty if annoyance but no hate. Hate is burning women on the stakes, accusing them of being witches, or mass murdering and pillaging people who are not of the same faith.
took the words right out of my mouth
Look, I don't completely agree with this guy, and I'm Christian. He's coming off pretty direct for someone trying to preach the word of God, but at least I'm not bashing him.
At least he's trying.
At least he's trying.
QUOTE(Call911Quick @ Dec 10 2007, 03:40 PM)
Look, I don't completely agree with this guy, and I'm Christian. He's coming off pretty direct for someone trying to preach the word of God, but at least I'm not bashing him.
At least he's trying.
At least he's trying.
Dude, you don't believe in the Theory of Evolution.
QUOTE(Call911Quick @ Dec 10 2007, 03:40 PM)
Look, I don't completely agree with this guy, and I'm Christian. He's coming off pretty direct for someone trying to preach the word of God, but at least I'm not bashing him.
At least he's trying.
At least he's trying.
You're not bashing him doesn't mean others shouldn't. He's not offending you but he is offending others. He's done a pretty good job at ignoring anyone who tries to tell him differently though, so no harm done except that people are rightly annoyed.
Heck, I've been trying to get him to answer my questions but he's danced around them or completely ignored me all the same, so I'm annoyed, too.
QUOTE(NoSex @ Dec 10 2007, 06:09 PM)
Dude, you don't believe in the Theory of Evolution.
I don't believe that it's proven. It is very probable, however, and convincing. At least I pay attention in class and I don't twist what others say, and I genuinely consider it as a possible explanation to why we are here.
It's just my faith and willingness to believe in God outweighs my faith in science. Sometimes there are things that just can't be proven/explained.
QUOTE(Call911Quick @ Dec 11 2007, 06:21 AM)
Sometimes there are things that just can't be proven/explained.
yet
QUOTE(Call911Quick @ Dec 11 2007, 05:21 AM)
I don't believe that it's proven.
Thats why its called the theory rather than the fact of evolution.
QUOTE(pureimaginationx23 @ Dec 11 2007, 12:11 PM)
Thats why its called the theory rather than the fact of evolution.
But a theory is very different from a hypothesis, contrary to what your tone suggests.
I love you. Do you love me?
QUOTE(Call911Quick @ Dec 11 2007, 04:21 AM)
It's just my faith and willingness to believe in God outweighs my faith in science. Sometimes there are things that just can't be proven/explained.
What the f**k are you talking about?
So, you think evolution is convincing, but you think that Christianity is just that much more convincing? And, science doesn't require that anyone have "faith" in it. It has something a lot more useful and meaningful - reason.
QUOTE(benedictkenny @ Dec 11 2007, 05:26 PM)
I love you. Do you love me?
Yes.
"Meaningful"?
Tell me, if everything you say, feel, and do is simply a series of chemical reactions, and that you are comprised mostly of Nitrogen, Oxygen, Carbon, and Hydrogen, does life have meaning?
If you put that much faith in science, why don't we all eat a bland substance which provides us with all the nutritions required for survival and growth to maximize efficiency and lower starvation? What's the point of art? Artists can be put to much more efficient uses, such as constructing buildings.
And yes, science does require faith. In fact, everything requires faith. When you sit down on a chair, you put faith in the chair that it can support your weight. When you go to class, you put faith in the fact that your teacher will be there. When you leave the room, your faith in Conservation of Energy tells you that everything is still present, even though you can't sense it. That's all part of a psychological "religion" though, saying how things don't really exist and such...
I can't explain it, why I believe in Christianity. It's just somehow, I know God is there.
Tell me, if everything you say, feel, and do is simply a series of chemical reactions, and that you are comprised mostly of Nitrogen, Oxygen, Carbon, and Hydrogen, does life have meaning?
If you put that much faith in science, why don't we all eat a bland substance which provides us with all the nutritions required for survival and growth to maximize efficiency and lower starvation? What's the point of art? Artists can be put to much more efficient uses, such as constructing buildings.
And yes, science does require faith. In fact, everything requires faith. When you sit down on a chair, you put faith in the chair that it can support your weight. When you go to class, you put faith in the fact that your teacher will be there. When you leave the room, your faith in Conservation of Energy tells you that everything is still present, even though you can't sense it. That's all part of a psychological "religion" though, saying how things don't really exist and such...
I can't explain it, why I believe in Christianity. It's just somehow, I know God is there.
QUOTE(benedictkenny @ Dec 11 2007, 06:26 PM)
But a theory is very different from a hypothesis, contrary to what your tone suggests.
I love you. Do you love me?
I love you. Do you love me?
Well yeah, but a theory is basically just a tested out hypothesis.
And yeah, ily. lol.
QUOTE(pureimaginationx23 @ Dec 12 2007, 11:04 PM)
Well yeah, but a theory is basically just a tested out hypothesis.
And yeah, ily. lol.
And yeah, ily. lol.
a theory in science is good enough that u can essentially just call it fact for the most part. i don't really see the point in stressing that it's just a theory. when we talk about gravity we don't say, "OH BUT YEAH, I MEAN IT'S JUST A THEORY OK, IT'S JUST A THEORY, GRAVITY IS A THEORY". we don't do that while talking about any of the other scientific theories that are just as valid as this one. so why only stress this point with evolution? that's what i never understand, let's be consistent.
QUOTE(Call911Quick @ Dec 10 2007, 02:37 AM)
It's obvious to tell the difference between Christians and Aethists in this forum.
If you don't believe in God, at least try to follow Ghandi's example. So much teen anger and angst on these forums. I can't believe the insane amount of HATE towards Christians.
Let's say some guy offers you pie. But no, you hate pie. What do you do?
Most of you guys would take the pie, shove it in said guy's face, and walk away, perhaps after shoving a broom up their ass.
If you don't believe in God, at least try to follow Ghandi's example. So much teen anger and angst on these forums. I can't believe the insane amount of HATE towards Christians.
Let's say some guy offers you pie. But no, you hate pie. What do you do?
Most of you guys would take the pie, shove it in said guy's face, and walk away, perhaps after shoving a broom up their ass.
haha i pretty much agree.
QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Dec 15 2007, 02:40 AM)
haha i pretty much agree.
then u too should show us the examples of "hate"
QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Dec 15 2007, 12:40 AM)
haha i pretty much agree.
Your accordance has no grounds. I ditto what brooklyneast05 said, so can you clarify?
i agree with what Call911Quick said.
thats why i quoted it and said i agree.
but i already posted my thoughts about this topic earlier. so if you really care you can find them.
thats why i quoted it and said i agree.
but i already posted my thoughts about this topic earlier. so if you really care you can find them.
QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Dec 20 2007, 05:40 PM)
i agree with what Call911Quick said.
thats why i quoted it and said i agree.
but i already posted my thoughts about this topic earlier. so if you really care you can find them.
thats why i quoted it and said i agree.
but i already posted my thoughts about this topic earlier. so if you really care you can find them.
he said this thread had hate in it, and u agreed with him. then we asked u to show us where the hate is. yeah we can go read ur post but why would we? we weren't asking about that, we were asking u and him to show us the hate against christians that u claim is in this thread.
I think it's a bit unfair to split this topic up between "Christians" and "Atheists" in such a manner. Sure, it might have been obvious who I am based on my previous posts, but as a former Christian myself, I can honestly say that I don't hold any hate or resentment towards Christians. I'm probably the only person in my immediate family who claims to be an atheist, so by saying that I'm showing hatred towards Christianity you're essentially suggesting that I resent my family members because of their religion.
This guy specifically is not doing the right thing by showing people a prayer that will supposedly "save" them just by repeating it word for word. Salvation, for Christians, is a much more personal experience. It won't happen because someone told them to be saved, and it won't happen simply because he posted this prayer. What he doesn't realize is the fact that not only is he barking up the wrong tree here, but he's offending people in the process.
By saying that you think the atheists are showing hate and the Christians are being respectful, you yourself are showing a clear bias towards the Christian posters. From my perspective, we've all been rather respectful in this thread regardless of our respective religions.
This guy specifically is not doing the right thing by showing people a prayer that will supposedly "save" them just by repeating it word for word. Salvation, for Christians, is a much more personal experience. It won't happen because someone told them to be saved, and it won't happen simply because he posted this prayer. What he doesn't realize is the fact that not only is he barking up the wrong tree here, but he's offending people in the process.
By saying that you think the atheists are showing hate and the Christians are being respectful, you yourself are showing a clear bias towards the Christian posters. From my perspective, we've all been rather respectful in this thread regardless of our respective religions.
QUOTE(xfrodobagginsx @ Nov 18 2007, 02:59 PM)
ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD KNOW:
1. REALIZE THAT YOU ARE A SINNER AND IN NEED OF A SAVIOR:
Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"
Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"
This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.
2. BECAUSE OF OUR SINS, WE DIE BOTH SPIRITUALLY AND PHYSICALLY, BUT GOD SENT HIS SON TO TAKE OUR PUNISHMENT AND GIVE US A CHANCE NOT TO HAVE TO GO TO HELL.
Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Ro 5:8 "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.
3. IF WE WILL ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS OUR LORD WITH OUR MOUTHS AND BELIEVE IN OUR HEARTS THAT HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD, BY DOING THIS WE ARE RECEIVING HIM:
Ro 10:9,10 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: {power: or, the right, or, privilege}
(KJV)
You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus and asking Him to forgive you for your sins and save you. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.
Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS? DO YOU ACCEPT WHAT HE DID FOR YOU TO PAY FOR YOUR SINS?
4. If you are willing to receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior please pray this right now, from your heart to God,
"Dear LORD JESUS, I believe that YOU died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I ask you to come into my heart and forgive me for my sins, take me to heaven when I die. I now receive You as my Lord and Savior. Thank You for saving me. In Jesus holy name, Amen."
If you prayed that prayer from your heart to God, and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven when you die.
Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD KNOW:
1. REALIZE THAT YOU ARE A SINNER AND IN NEED OF A SAVIOR:
Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"
Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"
This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.
2. BECAUSE OF OUR SINS, WE DIE BOTH SPIRITUALLY AND PHYSICALLY, BUT GOD SENT HIS SON TO TAKE OUR PUNISHMENT AND GIVE US A CHANCE NOT TO HAVE TO GO TO HELL.
Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Ro 5:8 "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.
3. IF WE WILL ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS OUR LORD WITH OUR MOUTHS AND BELIEVE IN OUR HEARTS THAT HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD, BY DOING THIS WE ARE RECEIVING HIM:
Ro 10:9,10 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: {power: or, the right, or, privilege}
(KJV)
You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus and asking Him to forgive you for your sins and save you. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.
Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS? DO YOU ACCEPT WHAT HE DID FOR YOU TO PAY FOR YOUR SINS?
4. If you are willing to receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior please pray this right now, from your heart to God,
"Dear LORD JESUS, I believe that YOU died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I ask you to come into my heart and forgive me for my sins, take me to heaven when I die. I now receive You as my Lord and Savior. Thank You for saving me. In Jesus holy name, Amen."
If you prayed that prayer from your heart to God, and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven when you die.
Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.
Was that copied and pasted?
QUOTE(xfrodobagginsx @ Nov 30 2007, 08:16 PM)
2Pe 1:19 We also have a more sure word of prophecy, to which you do well to take heed, as to a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the Daystar arises in your hearts,
Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus
Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus
You remind me of the slave owners who twisted God's Word to get their side of the point across. Good job!
"Give and you shall receive." 
I got bored of this. Why hasn't my questions been answered by the OP? Isn't there a rule where if you made the topic you have to stick by it and not leave in the midst of debate? It is rather... annoying when you provoke people and then... disappear or ingore them.
Hmm.
So, who likes ice cream?
Hmm.
So, who likes ice cream?
It is quite sad, I think he's moved on to another forum. I'd like to finish the discussion.
And I very much like ice cream. What flavor depends on my mood - I like peanut butter, mint chocolate chip, and banana-flavored when I can find it.
And I very much like ice cream. What flavor depends on my mood - I like peanut butter, mint chocolate chip, and banana-flavored when I can find it.
I've never had peanut butter ice cream.
I'm very much partial to mango sorbet, myself.
I'm very much partial to mango sorbet, myself.
Fae, you are one amazing thread hijacker.
I would like to revisit the point that all atheists are bad-tempered towards Christians, though. I'm not going to reword my post but that statement really sort of irked me in a very non-hateful-towards-christianity way.
I would like to revisit the point that all atheists are bad-tempered towards Christians, though. I'm not going to reword my post but that statement really sort of irked me in a very non-hateful-towards-christianity way.
QUOTE(libertie @ Jan 8 2008, 11:31 AM)
I would like to revisit the point that all atheists are bad-tempered towards Christians, though. I'm not going to reword my post but that statement really sort of irked me in a very non-hateful-towards-christianity way.
I don't know, they always loved me at their churches. I've been bought books, sent letters, asked to outings, etc. etc. I've been to dozens of churches and youth groups and despite my vocal and explicit atheism I was almost always very welcome. Only a few occasions have I met with violent and or extreme opposition inside a church.
But, yeah, it's a lame accusation. Most atheists I know are perfectly polite, as well are most Christians I know.
QUOTE(libertie @ Jan 8 2008, 12:23 PM)
It is quite sad, I think he's moved on to another forum. I'd like to finish the discussion.
I'm sorry. I was away for a while. Do you have a question for me? I will certainly answer it to the best of my ability.
QUOTE(libertie @ Jan 8 2008, 11:31 AM)
Fae, you are one amazing thread hijacker.
I would like to revisit the point that all atheists are bad-tempered towards Christians, though. I'm not going to reword my post but that statement really sort of irked me in a very non-hateful-towards-christianity way.
I would like to revisit the point that all atheists are bad-tempered towards Christians, though. I'm not going to reword my post but that statement really sort of irked me in a very non-hateful-towards-christianity way.
<3.
I love the classic Neapolitan.
Alas, I'm being ignore. Le Sigh.
i totally know the answer to this question.
you dont.
you dont.
Y'all are f**king stupid. Whoever said Heaven/Hell is not real, please shut up. Heaven and Hell is real. If you live the life that God gave you, and seek Him, you will go to heaven. You guys ever heard of Evangelism? What the thread creator posted is like what a real missionary would say to christians or non-christians. Evangelism is the Christian practice of preaching the Gospel of Jesus to both Christians (i.e. Orthodox and Catholics) or non-Christians. I respect that.
^what if you`re an atheist/agnostic?
QUOTE(JerzDevil @ Jan 9 2008, 05:41 PM)
Y'all are f**king stupid.
Y'all are f**king stupid. Whoever said Elysium/Hades is not real, please shut up. Elysium and Hades is real. If you live the life that Zeus gave you, and seek Him, you will go to Elysium.
QUOTE(JerzDevil @ Jan 9 2008, 05:41 PM)
Y'all are f**king stupid. Whoever said Heaven/Hell is not real, please shut up. Heaven and Hell is real. If you live the life that God gave you, and seek Him, you will go to heaven. You guys ever heard of Evangelism? What the thread creator posted is like what a real missionary would say to christians or non-christians. Evangelism is the Christian practice of preaching the Gospel of Jesus to both Christians (i.e. Orthodox and Catholics) or non-Christians. I respect that.
It seems you're very lost. Maybe you should re-read this thread before jumping to conclusions and making a fuss out of nothing. Also re-read the first post to see that the creator of this thread is also lost. Actually, it's part of the rules of this forum. Someone should report you.
Just a suggestion.
QUOTE(JerzDevil @ Jan 9 2008, 06:41 PM)
Y'all are f**king stupid. Whoever said Heaven/Hell is not real, please shut up. Heaven and Hell is real. If you live the life that God gave you, and seek Him, you will go to heaven. You guys ever heard of Evangelism? What the thread creator posted is like what a real missionary would say to christians or non-christians. Evangelism is the Christian practice of preaching the Gospel of Jesus to both Christians (i.e. Orthodox and Catholics) or non-Christians. I respect that.
Missionaries don't spam. Sorry.
QUOTE(Elba @ Nov 18 2007, 09:20 PM)
Please don't come in here and try to shove the bible down our throats.
Agreed, altho, i am Christian and believe in that, most Christians try to change people, and thats just damn wrong, if your so in love with god, why try to change there minds that god gave them?
i mean its ok to tell them what you believe and if they think something correct them, but damn dude, dont force them to believe it!
im not stong on going to church etc. so dont be hatin' lol
i find chruch creepy...there all like zombies like "OHHH JEEESSSUUSS OHHH LOORRRDDD II FFEEELLL YOU!"
its like get the hell away from me!
QUOTE(JuggaloSKfan @ Jan 10 2008, 12:57 AM)
Agreed, altho, i am Christian and believe in that, most Christians try to change people, and thats just damn wrong, if your so in love with god, why try to change there minds that god gave them?
i mean its ok to tell them what you believe and if they think something correct them, but damn dude, dont force them to believe it!
im not stong on going to church etc. so dont be hatin' lol
i find chruch creepy...there all like zombies like "OHHH JEEESSSUUSS OHHH LOORRRDDD II FFEEELLL YOU!"
its like get the hell away from me!
i mean its ok to tell them what you believe and if they think something correct them, but damn dude, dont force them to believe it!
im not stong on going to church etc. so dont be hatin' lol
i find chruch creepy...there all like zombies like "OHHH JEEESSSUUSS OHHH LOORRRDDD II FFEEELLL YOU!"
its like get the hell away from me!
You're better off a deist.
QUOTE(monster @ Jan 10 2008, 10:54 AM)
You're better off a deist.
do not want
All right, all right. Jason, atheists are not necessarily stupid, so please don't say that. You are supposed to respect everyone's opinions when posting in the Debate forum (and on cB in general).
QUOTE(JuggaloSKfan @ Jan 9 2008, 09:57 PM)
Agreed, altho, i am Christian and believe in that, most Christians try to change people, and thats just damn wrong, if your so in love with god, why try to change there minds that god gave them?
i mean its ok to tell them what you believe and if they think something correct them, but damn dude, dont force them to believe it!
im not stong on going to church etc. so dont be hatin' lol
i find chruch creepy...there all like zombies like "OHHH JEEESSSUUSS OHHH LOORRRDDD II FFEEELLL YOU!"
i mean its ok to tell them what you believe and if they think something correct them, but damn dude, dont force them to believe it!
im not stong on going to church etc. so dont be hatin' lol
i find chruch creepy...there all like zombies like "OHHH JEEESSSUUSS OHHH LOORRRDDD II FFEEELLL YOU!"
i find your av creepy
the Christian idea is that we know the answer on how to get to heaven, so why wouldn't you share that with others?
like having the cure to cancer and keeping it to yourself.
QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Jan 12 2008, 01:57 PM)
i find your av creepy
the Christian idea is that we know the answer on how to get to heaven, so why wouldn't you share that with others?
like having the cure to cancer and keeping it to yourself.
the Christian idea is that we know the answer on how to get to heaven, so why wouldn't you share that with others?
like having the cure to cancer and keeping it to yourself.
What I want you to do is add "supposed" to everything you think is true. For example, "they have the supposed cure to cancer". Now, of course you're not gonna want to do what I tell you, but don't worry, I'm not offended.
In this case, we want you people to go ahead and keep your notions of God and whatnot to yourself because we find them silly and unfounded most of the time. If you cannot do that, then don't get all fussy on people who want to belittle you or talk down on you. After all, in a sense, you guys started doing that very thing by trying to stuff these things down people's throats.
Oh, if you do have the cure to cancer, literally, do tell.
QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jan 12 2008, 08:33 PM)
What I want you to do is add "supposed" to everything you think is true. For example, "they have the supposed cure to cancer". Now, of course you're not gonna want to do what I tell you, but don't worry, I'm not offended.
In this case, we want you people to go ahead and keep your notions of God and whatnot to yourself because we find them silly and unfounded most of the time. If you cannot do that, then don't get all fussy on people who want to belittle you or talk down on you. After all, in a sense, you guys started doing that very thing by trying to stuff these things down people's throats.
Oh, if you do have the cure to cancer, literally, do tell.
In this case, we want you people to go ahead and keep your notions of God and whatnot to yourself because we find them silly and unfounded most of the time. If you cannot do that, then don't get all fussy on people who want to belittle you or talk down on you. After all, in a sense, you guys started doing that very thing by trying to stuff these things down people's throats.
Oh, if you do have the cure to cancer, literally, do tell.
pics of you now.
This thread obviously isn't going anywhere, let's close this and all future religion threads that pop up.
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