Full Version: Leniency my ass
i think i just meant that if you're going to enforce it a certain way, then do it. dont be selective.
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Don't take it so literally. The Lounge shouldn't be filled with topics that are COMPLETE spam. Topics don't necessarily have to ask a question or need to have a point but as long as there's something to talk about. I think you're just nit picking.
No, taking things literally and being nit picky would be Sandra yesterday when I bumped old topics with legit responses.QUOTE(tripvertigo @ Oct 26 2007, 12:50 AM)
tung, shut up. 
i dont care. i was kind of irritated when it was closed but it's not like it matters anymore.
I will say this. If you are going to enforce the rules at that kind of level or extent, Sandra, please enforce it that way consistently. You posted in a thread from 2004 that someone bumped for no reason at all and didnt even think about closing it? With your logic, Tal_dara already went on his break, in fact he's been on a 2 year break, and so the "issue" was over with.
Please give us a reason as to why it was not closed right away.
i dont care. i was kind of irritated when it was closed but it's not like it matters anymore.
I will say this. If you are going to enforce the rules at that kind of level or extent, Sandra, please enforce it that way consistently. You posted in a thread from 2004 that someone bumped for no reason at all and didnt even think about closing it? With your logic, Tal_dara already went on his break, in fact he's been on a 2 year break, and so the "issue" was over with.
Please give us a reason as to why it was not closed right away.
I did close it at first. Everything has being explained.
I stand by my decision in keeping Trish's topic closed execpt if she wants it open. Like I said, it was already turning into spam.
Also, if you guys have any problem with my performance, please post it in the performance thread, it's better that way.
Could more moderators comment on this issue please? It's been only Holly and myself.
By the way, nice signature Steven. It would have been better if you told me first.
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People were actually conversing in Trish' thread. Fail.
Correct. At first.
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According to you Sandra, no one gets it. If we don't get it, care to explain it to us? That's like going to a class and the professor giving you the question and telling you to answer without telling them what to do. Fail.
I tried explaining. Holly tried explaining. But you're still not getting it. My point: I simply closed Trish's topic because it was turning into spam. If Trish wanted it to be re-opened, I would've done it on the grounds they talk about Tung STFU (or him being gay).
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Nah, Michelle's already called this one out. It's an unwritten rule. Fail.
I stand corrected then. It's an unwritten rule. There you go.
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Hypocrite. Fail.
Thank you. How about we leave name calling out of this and keep it civilized?
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i think i just meant that if you're going to enforce it a certain way, then do it. dont be selective.
I did close the Tal Dara topic at first but then people weren't actually spamming. And I also remember Suzzette's advice on something like this. So, I decided to re-open it.
Also, about your comment about me not knowing what I'm doing, not correct. I do know what I am doing, you don't just agree with it.
Which I respect of course.
sandra, please address this:
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as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open.
i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these...
also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads.
arent these in the mod rules backstage? i could swear they were. because i was a mod too. i know these things because i was a mod. mod mod mod.
i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these...
also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads.
arent these in the mod rules backstage? i could swear they were. because i was a mod too. i know these things because i was a mod. mod mod mod.
I thought I already did, oops.
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t&p=2744338
I took that as a warning. The first page was on totally on topic. Later on, it started going down the drain. I wasn't going to close it at first. Didn't even cross my mind.
Your topic had a point: Tung = STFU.
I thought I was known for always telling people to stop spamming before actually closing threads.
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t&p=2744338
I took that as a warning. The first page was on totally on topic. Later on, it started going down the drain. I wasn't going to close it at first. Didn't even cross my mind.
Your topic had a point: Tung = STFU.
I thought I was known for always telling people to stop spamming before actually closing threads.
^Yea but Steph asked them to quit spamming and pick a topic so she didn't have to close the thread, so she kind of took the topic over to chizzat...well thats what it seemed to be.
Then after that it was just random stuff.
Then after that it was just random stuff.
^ I didn't get that.
Anyway, we're currently reviewing the Community guidelines. Hopefully, this doesn't re-occur.
Anyway, we're currently reviewing the Community guidelines. Hopefully, this doesn't re-occur.
Just cross out my last reply, I don't know I was just adding that you had every right to just close the topic...because Steph already told them to quit spamming or someone was going to have to close the thread.
Thats all I meant
Thats all I meant
the consequence for spamming isnt closing the thread. excessive spamming leads to a warning/verbal warning. closing the thread ruins it for everyone else who may or may not have done anything.
this isnt just about my thread.
this isnt just about my thread.
Trish, honestly, I'd rather close the thread than issue warnings. Nothing warranted warnings anyway.
This is actually the first thread (apart from the ones Spencer revived) that I've closed without telling you guys to quit spamming.
At the moment, it all fit. Steph warned you guys, it was turning into spam ...
This is actually the first thread (apart from the ones Spencer revived) that I've closed without telling you guys to quit spamming.
At the moment, it all fit. Steph warned you guys, it was turning into spam ...
if you dont have the balls to give out warnings, thats not everyone elses problem. you dont close the whole thread because a few people were spamming. there are other people on this forum that might want to participate in the thread.
It isn't about having balls for the love of satan. We're just repeating ourselves over and over again.
you're right. we are repeating ourselves. you keep explaining that steph said to stop spamming or the topic would be closed. the PROBLEM is that is the WRONG consequence for the WRONG offense. Jesus.
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Well, that got fucked up, but I'm too lazy to fix it.
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Well, that got fucked up, but I'm too lazy to fix it.
are you on AIM?
I don't know what to say on this that hasn't been said already, but I thought I should pop in and say I've been trying to keep up...just scanned through this so yeah.
Yeah, I thought I'd give it a chance first. I'm trying to be more lenient and at least pop in and say something when things get too spammy/conversational but I distinctly remember Jusun's quote about being more lenient so I always think back to that when I have a moment when I'm unsure. Thats just how I do it. *shrug*
Yeah, I thought I'd give it a chance first. I'm trying to be more lenient and at least pop in and say something when things get too spammy/conversational but I distinctly remember Jusun's quote about being more lenient so I always think back to that when I have a moment when I'm unsure. Thats just how I do it. *shrug*
QUOTE(tripvertigo @ Oct 26 2007, 09:19 PM)
you're right. we are repeating ourselves. you keep explaining that steph said to stop spamming or the topic would be closed. the PROBLEM is that is the WRONG consequence for the WRONG offense. Jesus.
Yes?QUOTE(stephinika @ Oct 27 2007, 03:56 AM)
I don't know what to say on this that hasn't been said already, but I thought I should pop in and say I've been trying to keep up...just scanned through this so yeah.
Yeah, I thought I'd give it a chance first. I'm trying to be more lenient and at least pop in and say something when things get too spammy/conversational but I distinctly remember Jusun's quote about being more lenient so I always think back to that when I have a moment when I'm unsure. Thats just how I do it. *shrug*
Yeah, I thought I'd give it a chance first. I'm trying to be more lenient and at least pop in and say something when things get too spammy/conversational but I distinctly remember Jusun's quote about being more lenient so I always think back to that when I have a moment when I'm unsure. Thats just how I do it. *shrug*
High five for Steph! :D
Hmmm..
I wonder if things would be fixed if we just view the Lounge as an actual lounge. You know... where people sit and talk about random stuff, stem off into different conversations, meet new people and new ideas.
OH WAIT, no way can the INTERNET lounge be the same as a real lounge. My bad. Internet = serious business.
I wonder if things would be fixed if we just view the Lounge as an actual lounge. You know... where people sit and talk about random stuff, stem off into different conversations, meet new people and new ideas.
OH WAIT, no way can the INTERNET lounge be the same as a real lounge. My bad. Internet = serious business.
Let's just rename it Debbie Downer's Tea Party or Concentration Camp.
QUOTE(Michelle @ Nov 7 2007, 06:00 PM)
Hmmm..
I wonder if things would be fixed if we just view the Lounge as an actual lounge. You know... where people sit and talk about random stuff, stem off into different conversations, meet new people and new ideas.
OH WAIT, no way can the INTERNET lounge be the same as a real lounge. My bad. Internet = serious business.
That isn't allowed currently?
I wonder if things would be fixed if we just view the Lounge as an actual lounge. You know... where people sit and talk about random stuff, stem off into different conversations, meet new people and new ideas.
OH WAIT, no way can the INTERNET lounge be the same as a real lounge. My bad. Internet = serious business.
spam
No, it isn't. Because every once in a while, there is what could be considered "spam" in a conversation in a real lounge.
Spam as in something that is just simply off-topic or Steven's kind of spam (something that contributes to nothing and is a waste of forum space)?
Oh, there is a limit of forum space? Does that mean we shouldn't post? o_0
QUOTE(davinci @ Nov 7 2007, 09:10 PM)
Spam as in something that is just simply off-topic or Steven's kind of spam (something that contributes to nothing and is a waste of forum space)?
Could you show me my spam, please?
QUOTE(Michelle @ Nov 7 2007, 10:14 PM)
Oh, there is a limit of forum space? Does that mean we shouldn't post? o_0
-__- I meant a post that says "spam" like the one 5 posts up or "no u" 10 times doesn't contribute to anything. I don't get the point he was trying to make because it isn't the same as what I think you're referring to in The Lounge.
I was posting the excuse that we typically hear. It wasn't spam, just wasn't as clear cut as it could have been. Oh well.
QUOTE(davinci @ Nov 7 2007, 09:56 PM)
-__- I meant a post that says "spam" like the one 5 posts up or "no u" 10 times doesn't contribute to anything. I don't get the point he was trying to make because it isn't the same as what I think you're referring to in The Lounge.
I'm not referring to anything in the Lounge, actually. haha. I haven't seen any of the threads or posts that y'all have been arguing about. I just think, back from what I said probably in backstage, that stemmed conversations and things that may be random shouldn't be slapped on the hand for.
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