Steven
Oct 25 2007, 01:51 PM
"Tung shut up" was closed. Was it hurting anyone? Did it offend Tung? Did you see him bitching and moaning about it? Maybe he reported it and if he did, what a pussy (but I presume he did not). Anyways, so what if it was pseudo spammy. So what if others thought it was stupid? People were participating, actually sticking to the topic (OMFGZOMGLOLZINORITE?) and people were having fun. Why was it closed? Spam. Who the f**k cares? Who was it hurting? Why not just leave it open?
I
know this was discussed backstage and I know people were told to be more lenient. If there's not much work to do as people staff, you don't have to go looking for it. If things are running smoothly, just be a normal person. Don't moderate shit because it can be.
edit:
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...192082&st=0they're just talking about themselves! Why isn't that closed?
Do you have to add in a question so that it's not considered spam? Does it have to appeal to the masses and be something everyone can participate in?
superstitious
Oct 25 2007, 02:08 PM
I'm not sure why
this one was closed either. Sure it was a really old topic (bumped by a moderator, I believe) but people were having fun in it.
The Lounge is supposed to be pretty mod-free, from what I can remember Jusun saying. Only topics that are advertisements and blatant spam should be moderated. What is so different between the topic Steven is referring to and the AIM thread?
Sandraaa
Oct 25 2007, 02:13 PM
Hi Steven.
About Tung's topic, sure, Trish wanted him to STFU, no problemo but then it deviated. People were actually spamming. There are so many topics that aren't exactly serious but were left open because people stayed on topic.
EDIT// Also, Tung apologized for f**king with Trish. Trish forgave him. So I don't exactly see why it should remain open.
She can always create a 'Tung I accept your apology thread'. By the way, I wasn't looking for something to moderate. I was simply doing what I thought was right.
As for the second topic, she wasn't only talking about herself, she asked a question. Re-read it. So yes, it should remain open.
Rebecca, ><.
superstitious
Oct 25 2007, 02:14 PM
^ sneaky :P
Sandraaa
Oct 25 2007, 02:18 PM
Our dirty little secret.

Although, you could've PMed me. You being much more experienced and all.
Wrong smiley.
superstitious
Oct 25 2007, 02:19 PM
QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Oct 25 2007, 02:18 PM)

Our dirty little secret.

Although, you could've PMed me. You being much more experienced and all.
Wrong smiley.

XD Except I didn't know exactly who closed it. I just saw it closed in The Lounge view. ;) I only figured you reopened it because of your response here.
Sandraaa
Oct 25 2007, 02:22 PM
I actually closed it because I assumed people are going to be saying 'see ya' 'bye'. Ya know?
I guess I think too far ahead. -shrug-
Steven
Oct 25 2007, 02:24 PM
That happened to be the subject of the day. It happens to a lot of things. But anyhow, even if it was deviating, who was it hurting? Why did it have to be closed? If the PM comment was directed at me, I feel this should be something for everyone to add input. This isn't an attack at you Sandra.
Sandraaa
Oct 25 2007, 02:29 PM
But you can always create a new subject of the day and I'll post in it. Steven, I don't have a stick up my ass so I understand what you mean. The topic was ... dead. It wasn't cute spam anymore. (no offense Trish).
The PM post was @ Rebecca. I was going to PM you but I read your signature. ><
Insurmountable
Oct 25 2007, 02:31 PM
If you want open so bad, and the only thing thats in is spamming then do you want the VIP lounge to become the shit box again?
Tung
Oct 25 2007, 02:32 PM
...wtf? I didn't report shit to any mods to close the topic lol.
Sandraaa
Oct 25 2007, 02:33 PM
Also Steven, I actually think we are very lenient.

FOR THE RECORD, Tung didn't report it. Haha.
Steven
Oct 25 2007, 02:39 PM
Tung, I was saying if. I didn't think you did.
VIP Lounge to become it again? If the VIP lounge sucks so bad, why do we still have it? Wasn't suzzette a major proponent of it? Who else is pushing to keep it open anymore?
Sandra I wasn't accusing you over moderating for the sake of moderating.
PS My PMs work, that was 2 months ago or so and is a recycled sig.
I didn't say you had a stick up your ass.
Regardless, even if it was spammy, why close it? I don't think it was dead. It had 5 responses today.
La la la la laaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Kay well I'll be sure to bring it up if things are being closed here there or anywhere for no apparent reason other than it's sorta spammy.
Sandraaa
Oct 25 2007, 02:41 PM
-sigh-
I know you weren't accusing me. I also know you don't think I have a stick up my ass.
I swear, nobody understands me these days. I need to sleep.

EDIT// Can you compare it to spam threads relating to Tung and penis? I post in those topics!!
Trish accepted his apology so now, Tung can open his mouth. So the topic isn't valid anymore. >< I'm over thinking.
Insurmountable
Oct 25 2007, 02:42 PM
Honestly there no big deal with it being open but it was really spammy by the end of it and was completely off the topic of telling tung to shut up, and in the forum rules it does have spam

And yea, I think we should just get rid of the VIP lounge
Steven
Oct 25 2007, 02:44 PM
QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Oct 25 2007, 02:41 PM)

-sigh-
I know you weren't accusing me. I also know you don't think I have a stick up my ass.
I swear, nobody understands me these days. I need to sleep.

QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Oct 25 2007, 02:13 PM)

Hi Steven.
About Tung's topic, sure, Trish wanted him to STFU, no problemo but then it deviated. People were actually spamming. There are so many topics that aren't exactly serious but were left open because people stayed on topic.
EDIT// Also, Tung apologized for f**king with Trish. Trish forgave him. So I don't exactly see why it should remain open.
She can always create a 'Tung I accept your apology thread'. By the way, I wasn't looking for something to moderate. I was simply doing what I thought was right.
As for the second topic, she wasn't only talking about herself, she asked a question. Re-read it. So yes, it should remain open.
Rebecca, ><.
QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Oct 25 2007, 02:29 PM)

But you can always create a new subject of the day and I'll post in it. Steven, I don't have a stick up my ass so I understand what you mean. The topic was ... dead. It wasn't cute spam anymore. (no offense Trish).
The PM post was @ Rebecca. I was going to PM you but I read your signature. ><
Sorry from your responses I assumed you thought I thought you had a stick up your ass and thought that I was aiming that at you.
Elba
Oct 25 2007, 02:45 PM
Do not get rid of VIP Lounge
Sandraaa
Oct 25 2007, 02:46 PM
Did Mike delete his post or was I dreaming?
Anyway, no no. I didn't assume that at all. @ Steven.
Steven
Oct 25 2007, 02:48 PM
QUOTE(Elba @ Oct 25 2007, 02:45 PM)

Do not get rid of VIP Lounge

Idno, I probably wouldn't throw attacks at your facial appendage (not going to mention it because I know you don't like it when I do)? I mean, actually, I was on staff. I know what I'm doing. Don't question me.
Elba
Oct 25 2007, 02:48 PM
What the f**k are you talking about?
Steven
Oct 25 2007, 02:51 PM
Look, I was on staff. I think I know what I'm talking about.
Elba
Oct 25 2007, 02:53 PM
Do you want a cookie?
Sandraaa
Oct 25 2007, 02:53 PM
DUDE. I remember someone who always pointed out how they used to be on staff. I don't remember who it was though.
Steven
Oct 25 2007, 02:53 PM
Look, I'm going to quit staff because I'm doing all the work, regardless of the fact that people are doing more than me and I just got hired. I was on staff. I know what I'm talking about.
Sandra's getting it! I know Spencer would instantly.
Tung
Oct 25 2007, 02:54 PM
QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Oct 25 2007, 12:53 PM)

DUDE. I remember someone who always pointed out how they used to be on staff. I don't remember who it was though.
Nicky? CowerPointObjects?
Sandraaa
Oct 25 2007, 02:55 PM
No, it was a guy.
Tung
Oct 25 2007, 02:55 PM
Nicky can be considered a guy too.
Elba
Oct 25 2007, 02:57 PM
Oh, I am slow

My bad...
I still don't get it, though.
Steven
Oct 25 2007, 02:58 PM
/facepalm
Oh sheet, spamming :(
Don't want this closed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Insurmountable
Oct 25 2007, 03:04 PM
/closed.

Anyway not really, but is there anything else you would like to bring up about the mods not being lenient enough about certain issues?
Steven
Oct 25 2007, 03:07 PM

I just think it's pretty lame to close something like that. Oh well, w/e.
Insurmountable
Oct 25 2007, 03:13 PM
Well I guess I'm torn from both sides.
Yes theres no real point in closing it and I mean whatever really. But also in another sense it was really spammy and I see 100% why Sandra closed it.
In the forum rules it says:
QUOTE
Chatting --> Some is tolerated, if it relates to the topic, but personal conversations and chatroom-like talking is in no way allowed. Use the chatroom. That's what it's there for.
Elba even said to move on to chizzat or whatever its called, so there would have been a real point in keeping it open anyway because the people that were posting in the topic would have joined the chat.
QUOTE
One or two word posts (unless it is in the Sandbox)
There were plenty of this and considering it obviously isn't in the sandbox then it shouldn't be stuck in the lounge, so I mean if they really want to keep the topic open and alive and fill it with more conversations and whatever we can move it to the VIP lounge if you would like that?
Not to be rude and say there wasn't a real point to why the topic really had to be made...there wasn't

It does seem like it should have just been moved to the VIP Lounge

QUOTE
POINTLESS THREADS
Random topics that no one will be able to reply to in a productive manner or discuss will be closed. This includes topics like 'I'm bored', "Look at my pics", "Do u love me", topics whose sole intent is to insult someone. These forums are for discussion, not attention seeking.
There wasn't really anything to discuss in the topic?
Sandraaa
Oct 25 2007, 03:15 PM
I just thought the 'conflict' was resolved. Or no Trish?
Insurmountable
Oct 25 2007, 03:16 PM
Yea it was, Tung posted the little hamster or whatever type of animal it was saying Sorry, and Elba and Trish went in after and said apology accepted.
The end
superstitious
Oct 25 2007, 04:19 PM
*sigh
I thought that things weren't supposed to get moderated unless it was advertisement or blatant spam. The problem is where the line is drawn (or if it's drawn). That's the tricky part of being People Staff, I guess.
I think if someone wants it reopened, let a staff member know. I think that in most cases it'll get reopened.
VIP Lounge/OM Lounge/WhateverGoes Lounge is fine. It was initially presented as a perk for being an Official Whatever. I thought Spencer was the one who brought it up initially.
rnicron
Oct 25 2007, 04:26 PM
In response to everything Holly quoted even though I didn't read it:
QUOTE
The Lounge. Have a laugh, make new friends. Anything off-topic.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but off-topic usually means NOT ON TOPIC, MEANING SPAM.
Either correct what it says or STFU, generally speaking.
Insurmountable
Oct 25 2007, 04:43 PM
gee who pissed in your corn flakes?
Are we really going to get on about whats written beside the name? Because if so look at the locker rooms:
Forum for the girls. Talk about all the girly girl stuff.
Forum for the guys. Talk about all the manly guy stuff.
So please, tell me why the f**k do guys go in the girls locker room? and same goes for the girls in the boys.
rnicron
Oct 25 2007, 04:46 PM
It cleary doesn't state "guys/girls, stay the fuck out" does it?
The Lounge clearly states that it's anything "off-topic".
Insurmountable
Oct 25 2007, 04:47 PM
"Forum for the guys"
"Forum for the girls"
Honestly Spencer, I'm not going to argue with something like this. Pretty much this has all been solved, if Trish wants the topic re-opened then she can feel free to PM a people staff or head staff and we'll re-open it oh and perhaps a valid reason for it to be re-opened would be nice too.
Oh also, I didn't write the forum rules. Which is what I quoted from
rnicron
Oct 25 2007, 04:49 PM
But it doesn't say "you can't come in here and give input".
Insurmountable
Oct 25 2007, 04:49 PM
I edited
rnicron
Oct 25 2007, 04:51 PM
I didn't write the topic titles, which says what you can do, but is then overthrown by a set of rules. That's like walking in a bathroom that says "Pee here" and when you get in, there's a sign on every urinal saying "Can't pee here".
Insurmountable
Oct 25 2007, 04:52 PM

Last time I checked I wasn't in charge of the Forum sub titles either.
rnicron
Oct 25 2007, 04:54 PM
Kiss my ass. This is exactly why no one ever calls out the staff team because they all get defensive when we bring up valid points. Go hide Backstage or something.
Insurmountable
Oct 25 2007, 04:55 PM

Whatever you say Spencer.
rnicron
Oct 25 2007, 04:56 PM
You know exactly what I mean.
This needs to be closed. The last post is clearly spam carried over from another topic.
Insurmountable
Oct 25 2007, 04:58 PM
Oh I know what your talking about, but of course I don't go hide backstage. Oh and I'm not throwing out your valid point, if you want it re-opened so bad then go contact Trish to tell her to PM a people or head staff to reopen it

Edit.
The last post was made by you to just ruin the topic. The other topic that was being discussed in the first place was filled with spam
rnicron
Oct 25 2007, 05:01 PM
I could give a fuck less about the topic, but don't close things on a case-by-case basis. At least Trish's topic was promoting conversation on the boards, which is more than can be said for the other topics on that page.
I didn't make that post. It must have been Amberielle.
Sandraaa
Oct 25 2007, 05:06 PM
Spencer, you're stretching way too far here.
The 'I am proud of myself' is CLEARLY not spam as she asked a valid question. And so far, everyone was on topic.
The reason I closed Trish's topic was because, it was already solved and also because it was turning into spam. She forgave Tung. Done.
rnicron
Oct 25 2007, 05:10 PM
Oh right, because
this topic is the definition of what cB stands for, especially with your post in it.
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