^Exactly.
Letting children pop out babies is what is leading to the downfall of our society.
If your 15, I don't give a shit what anyone says, you are not mentally ready to raise a child. Raising a child is hard for a 30 year old.

I have nothing against teenage mothers, I think it's about damn time someone took a step forward in preventing it, though.

this isn't just about giving BC out in schools; it's about our overall attitude towards reproductive health & women's bodies. personally, i don't think that there should be any age restrictions/mandatory parental consent laws with regards abortion, birth control, or anything else relating to reproductive rights. i am fully pro-choice and believe that a woman has the right to decide what to do with her own body.

i also believe that abstinence-only sex ed is terribly misleading and has absolutely no place in our schools. comprehensive sex ed is the way to go. and contraceptives are not the only thing we need to talk about; we need to talk about what exactly sex IS to how teenage pregnancies more often than not occur in relationships where the girl is being abused or in a situation where she has been raped.

i believe that we should absolutely hand out condoms in schools; birth control is for the OB/GYN to figure out.

WHAT? Being a WHORE? You do realize that someone in a committed relationship using condoms could have one broken, and having repeated sex in a relationship is by no means "whorish". The reason most teens suffer is because they weren't taught the things young adults need to be taught about. They need to be told the statistics: such as "less than one out of a hundred women will become pregnant when using birth control perfectly", so then they can decide the proper contraception for them and find a way to get it. Though, birth control should be able to be accessed without parental permission, and it should be at a place where it is easily accessible for young adults without cars/licenses. Girls afraid to tell their parents, or girls whose parents don't let them get birth control are the ones that we need to worry about. Schools also need to step up on their sex-ed programs, saying that abstinence leads to other bad things, and it doesn't. Stop lying to our children! Teach them the necessary things to be taught.


I don't think anyone under 30 has any business raising a child. Though, having sex is a big responsibility and needs to be treated as such. Sex isn't "bad", even for teens under 16, what's bad is that they don't understand what the consequences could be for sex. People say "once you have sex you give away your body". Untrue.

Stop f**king treating it like it's such a big deal to lose your virginity. It's not. The big deal is, losing your virginity and becoming a mother.

Birth control should be available everywhere and someone shouldn't have to jump through hoops to protect themselves.

^I agree. This taboo on sex that America has is absolutely ridiculous and does more harm than good. People have sex. Young people have sex. They like having sex. Deal with it.

Many schools don't teach sex-ed or teach abstinence-only "sex-ed". They want to leave it up to the parents to teach but 8/10 times, the parents don't say anything. The kids don't learn anything about birth control and have sex and get pregnant. The same system who didn't teach them how to protect themselves then tells them that they can't get an abortion and they have to raise the child themselves.

Today the pharmacy attempted to charge me $53 for my pills. That's with insurance. What kind of shitty insurance plan won't cover birth control, for f**k's sake? Do we want people to have unwanted children? I think not.

Anyway...teaching people does not lead people to have sex. Just because someone acquires a condom does not mean that they're going to run out and find someone to use it with. And if someone already has a partner, not teaching them how to avoid pregnancy is certainly not going to prevent them from having sex. I was talking to my roommates the other day, who went to a small rural school, and they said that they were never taught about safe sex at all, and that it took them a really long time to find out about the pill. Definitely not a good education method.

(Admittedly, I only posted in here because I was bitter about the $53)

I'm on the fence about this.
Giving birth control pills and condoms can be seen as the school promoting sexual activity. They are promoting safe sex, but it's sex nonetheless.
And in a way, the Jr. High is saying that it's okay to have sex that young.

Kids are more comfortable about sex when they are not with their parents.
I don't know anybody who would be okay with asking their parents for birth control presciptions.
But middle school kids are still minors, so legally and technically, their parents do have a say.

Sadly, sex isn't reserved for high schoolers and adults anymore.
The fact that middle school kids are participating in sex is unfortunate.
But it can't be ignored..

So..I don't know.
I guess if these kids really can't control their raging hormones, then I'd rather see them have sex safely.

even though middle schoolers or highschoolers hould be having sex i think its still a good idea to give birth control. cause its better not getting pregnant even though it would hurt to find out someone has had sex

my mum is all like "dont have sex or ill kill you" but then shes like "if you want birth control ill freak out but ill be calm"
which also makes no sense to me XD

It's mom language.

I'm all for promoting awareness in as many ways as possible. Parenting is a serious work and responsibility and teenagers are not ready for it. You need to get yourself a career before parenthood .

I say give it to them. Who needs more bastard kids in this world that no one wants or wanted in the first place.

I agree.
even though its wrong for middle schoolers to have sex i would rather see a day when they were more smart and responsible to take the first step in getting BC then ending up on the maury show or someshit.

Good God, after reading the thread; I must say I'm glad I'm movin out of the U.S.

When I was in Middle School... this sort of talk was unheard of. Now a days children are having sex even in 4th-5th grade.

i don't get why that makes you want to leave the country or what that has to do with birth control. kids didn't talk about sex when i was in 4th grade either really. but, now they do, so they should be educated on stuff earlier.

I don't want my future children interacting with other children who are already influenced into thinking and wanting sex.

teach them what's right and what's not then. i'm just going to educate my kids and make sure they know stuff. to me that is more practical than trying to remove them from ever having to interact with opinions i don't like. there's no way around that.

Bro... c'mon man. Look at majority of the kids in this forum. Look at majority of the threads in this forum. This is evidence of today's youth... either their parents don't give a shit about them or their parents are tryin hard but these children just don't give a shit. That's the only options here.

I'm not raisin my kids here only to lock them up as soon as they get out of school. They should have friends but no way in hell am I gonna allow their friends to influence them and now a days there's way too many things outside of a home that influence the young, they're very vulnerable.

yeah i just don't think there's much way around kids at some point being around bad influences. i'm more in favor for preparing them for that than trying to stop the inevitable. i think my kids will make the right choices if i raise them right.


but i would agree that a lot of parents today don't seem to give a shit. which is on topic with this thread because i would say that teaching abstinence only and not telling teenagers about birth control falls under not giving a shit. any sane and caring parent who gave a shit would educate their kid about sex in today's world. lots of them are just setting themselves up for what happens becuase they won't do their job already.

in my middle school, they were required to KEEP condoms in the nurses office.
same in my high school. but i've never heard of the whole birth control thing.

Jeees... what ever happened to "lolli pops and band-aids"

^it's for the kids who decide to have sex, but have no other way to get condoms.
it's better than the, getting pregnant, right?

Well does your school at least inform the parents? That their child just walked into the nurses room and asked for a condom?

Nope.

lol then let the little shits get pregnant, they need a lesson taught. Then they need to get exploited in public so all the children can see how they just screwed their lives up.

Oh how I have not missed you.

I don't know why you think other countries are less sexualized.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics...ather-case.html

I've never made that claim.

And you're a bit late: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...=218435&hl=

That's certainly what you implied.




God forbid I should post a link to something the same day as it's been posted in a topic I didn't read elsewhere.

Yes, I'm moving out of the U.S. which has many problems at the moment. No where in my statement did I say that the U.S. was the only problem in the world. Please stop makin yourself look stupid.

Birth control for kids dats a really sad sign that American families morals and ethics are really goin to shit. i mean not everyone cause there are a few people who keep a good head on their shoulders but if it's becoming a question whether to give these kids bc then it's like damn what are we doin here?


The fact that it's to the point that 4th and 5th graders are having sex is bad enough. I think the main emphasis should be put on parents because there should be no reason that kids that young are having sex even in middle school. most of the kids i've seen growin up and today they act as if they livin and doin things on they own like they grown. the thing bout that that annoys me is that the parents either don't care or blindly believe that their child is an angel and would never do somethin like htat. for me comin up my parents as much as we didn't get along they still set rules and standards and enforced them and one thing was if they found out i was havin sex especially bein 13, 14 that'd be ma ass. i mean i'm 20 now i can make ma own desicions but i know the consequences as well.
these kids have no idea the risks they are takin on cause they can hear bout it but they don't really know. they don't really see how much stress and strain it puts on people who are not even 20 and are havin sex and the likely hood of pregnacy and STDs and stuff. givin them Birth control in my view i think that's jus like sayin o well it's another form of protection and this has a higher likely hood of preventing pregnancy.
i mean these kids only really know bout the pleasurable side of sex they don't know ne thing else really other than what their told.
and honestly i think if you're a kid and ur told not to do somethin it's not gonna be long before some kid goes to experiment with it.

Less than 50% of teenagers choose to have sex. That statistic has remained steady throughout the past years. In fact, according to some surveys, the number has actually declined.

So what the f*ck is the bullshit about teaching kids about contraception is going to make them go at it like rabbits?

For those who don't want to use the condom, go for them. Save it for the wedding night. For those who do, they must be thought how to responsibly.

It's weird to think about elementary school kids having sex but it does happen but VERYY RARELYYYY. Don't take one or two cases and use it as an example as to how America's morals have been declining. Middle school is the perfect time to teach kids a comprehensive sex ed program that emphasizes abstinence as THE perfect way to prevent nasty consequences but offer them contraception info too. This is the time they are going through puberty and bodily changes. By the time they go into high school, it might be too late for some because that is usually the time most teenagers say they lost their virginity.

I have absolutely nothing against birth control. We do way worse things to cows every single day.

lol what?

how do cows relate to giving kids birth control/sex education

I was thinking of abortion :O! oops. rofl.