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Steven
THOMAS
Insurmountable
ohhhhhh

thank you wink.gif
Sandraaa
I WAS RIGHTTTTTTTT.
rnicron
QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 25 2007, 03:24 PM) *
THOMAS
Man, I miss that sorry ol' chap.
[/james]

Sorry if that brings up memories of your midterm the other day, Steven.
hypnotique
QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 25 2007, 02:46 PM) *
Hopefully not. I might add, I was on staff guys. Because I was on staff I should be respected. I know how things go down on staff. I was once myspacepeople staff. I know how staff works. I was on staff, don't forget that I was on staff.
Regardless of my compulsive need to tell y'all about how
I was on staff, Rachael's activity is a recent thing to the best of my knowledge. She was questioned plenty backstage as well, and I remember she didn't seem to be too active in the queue. This may be in part because of Holly and Mike completely owning it up, but who knows.

Dont forget you were a veteran of staff for so long (3 months-ish) when you stepped down.
Sandraaa
QUOTE(Steven)
I think Sandra as a mod is bad for the community. She doesn't pay attention to other moderating comments made in a thread, and proceeds to close when she deems it close-worthy. She exercises poor judgment. Isn't this site supposed to be for the majority, not for the mods? Aren't they supposed to help the community? I think it was very apparent that the majority of people who had an opinion on that one lovely thread wanted it open, and also shared the same feeling that it wasn't hurting them. You want your comments in mod performance Sandraaa, well here they are :)

Please explain to me how doing something that goes against the majority of the community is beneficial to the site.

You're making ONE action very general. I never said that the topic was going to be forever closed.

BTW, my act was supported by a moderator.

EDIT//

I don't pay attention to moderating comments or I didn't pay attention? There's a difference. I don't want to get all defensive but I know I did the right thing. Steph already gave a warning but some of you guys continued the spam which made me close the topic. I also remembered mentionning that the topic was going to get re-opened if Trish (because she was the OP) wanted it back and as long as you all were on topic. Now that the communtiy guidelines are getting reviewed, that shouldn't matter anymore.

Look Steven, you're beginning to make this a one-mod action. I remember you saying that it wasn't directed solely at me. Why don't you call out others who've done the same?

I also remember you saying that your only 'problem' with me was my absense. Obviously, I've been working on it. You never mentioned how 'bad' of a mod I was. Take a look at the first page and the last few pages in the leniency thread and it's like seeing a whole new Steven.

Not counting my absense and of course this incident, I'd love to know what makes me a bad moderator. I am not asking for insults, rather constructive critisism. The only critic I've taken to be constructive so far is that of Trish. (no joke).

I don't think I should be looked down upon just because this.

Anyway, I'm off to bed. I'll reply to your comments tomorrow.

'Night.
pandora
i've seen you do this a lot.sometimes without discussion. just *closed*
Sandraaa
Where Trish?

I'll reply tomorrow. Sorry. pinch.gif
pandora
i think sandra is a bad mod because she can't figure out how to split and merge topics.
digitalfragrance
^ People staff don't have powers in the News and Announcemenst/Feedback Subforums. She wouldn't be able to split/merge those posts.
pandora
lol ok then.
Steven
QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Oct 27 2007, 02:46 PM) *
You're making ONE action very general. I never said that the topic was going to be forever closed.

BTW, my act was supported by a moderator.

EDIT//

I don't pay attention to moderating comments or I didn't pay attention? There's a difference. I don't want to get all defensive but I know I did the right thing. Steph already gave a warning but some of you guys continued the spam which made me close the topic. I also remembered mentionning that the topic was going to get re-opened if Trish (because she was the OP) wanted it back and as long as you all were on topic. Now that the communtiy guidelines are getting reviewed, that shouldn't matter anymore.

Look Steven, you're beginning to make this a one-mod action. I remember you saying that it wasn't directed solely at me. Why don't you call out others who've done the same?
Cuz I have better things to do than search or try to remember. It's not like it's going to kill me if nothing happens and I'm ignored yet again thumbsup.gif

QUOTE
I also remember you saying that your only 'problem' with me was my absense. Obviously, I've been working on it. You never mentioned how 'bad' of a mod I was. Take a look at the first page and the last few pages in the leniency thread and it's like seeing a whole new Steven.
Nope, I've always been me thumbsup.gif See, reason I never complained about you is because you were never here. By default, you did nothing wrong.

QUOTE
Not counting my absense and of course this incident, I'd love to know what makes me a bad moderator. I am not asking for insults, rather constructive critisism. The only critic I've taken to be constructive so far is that of Trish. (no joke).
If you think what I said in mod changes is insulting, then maybe you should get off the internet :D

QUOTE
I don't think I should be looked down upon just because this.

Anyway, I'm off to bed. I'll reply to your comments tomorrow.

'Night.

You do that thumbsup.gif I'll look down upon you because I think you suck as a moderator. You used to be all "YEAH f**k THE NAZI MODS". *Hmm maybe I'll apply for kicks* WHAT I GOT HIRED?!?!?!!?
*time to go against everything I used to pretend to be*
Elba
QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 27 2007, 01:51 PM) *
You do that thumbsup.gif I'll look down upon you because I think you suck as a moderator. You used to be all "YEAH f**k THE NAZI MODS". *Hmm maybe I'll apply for kicks* WHAT I GOT HIRED?!?!?!!?
*time to go against everything I used to pretend to be*

ROFLMFAO rofl1.gif

This is actually pretty accurate.
superstitious
I wasn't sure where else to put this, but why is the Official Chinese Club pinned? Curious.
Steven
QUOTE(superstitious @ Oct 28 2007, 07:38 AM) *
I wasn't sure where else to put this, but why is the Official Chinese Club pinned? Curious.

....
..............
Majority rules. DUH
Insurmountable
QUOTE(superstitious @ Oct 28 2007, 08:38 AM) *
I wasn't sure where else to put this, but why is the Official Chinese Club pinned? Curious.



There was this thing going on when a club would be pinned after each week I guess?

I don't remember..it happened right when I got put back on staff.
LoveToMySilas
QUOTE(superstitious @ Oct 28 2007, 08:38 AM) *
I wasn't sure where else to put this, but why is the Official Chinese Club pinned? Curious.
I'm not really sure about that one either. _unsure.gif Maybe its cause of what Steven suggested...we have a vast number of chinese people on Createblog. But what about the other clubs?
superstitious
QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 28 2007, 09:48 AM) *
....
..............
Majority rules. DUH

Well don't I feel sheepish. o.O! =/

QUOTE(Insurmountable @ Oct 28 2007, 11:06 AM) *
There was this thing going on when a club would be pinned after each week I guess?

I don't remember..it happened right when I got put back on staff.



QUOTE(Moderator @ Oct 28 2007, 11:15 AM) *
I'm not really sure about that one either. _unsure.gif Maybe its cause of what Steven suggested...we have a vast number of chinese people on Createblog. But what about the other clubs?

Hmm, ok.

Still doesn't make much sense to me, but it's not a big deal (again, was just curious). Thanks for answering though. XD
Insurmountable
Lol, Michelle did it a while back. It was to like "showcase" a club by pinning it.

AH HA found it! XD
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=189191
Steven
Sandra refuses to answer what I've said about her. Whenever I critique her, she gets so flustered and irrational and gets really defensive. She can't take criticism. She's a very poor staff member. She didn't do shit for the longest time, and now when she comes back and f**ks up she doesn't try to fix it. I remember when I had disputes w/ Rebecca, she listened to what I had to say and even reopened a few threads I was bitching and moaning about for legitimate reasons. Sandra does not do this. She should be demoted to design staff.
Steven
Oh wait gusy! I'm going to go to bed and read tmw and respond LULZ!!!
Sandraaa
Just because I can't resist reading this thread. ><

Anyhoo Steven. Hi.

I apologize for getting defensive when being called dumb or stupid, ya know. Dude, which threads do you want me to re-open? Trish's thread? I mean, that's practically the only thread I closed recently in which you guys were having fun. I also remember saying that it will get opened if Trish wanted it to.

I know I get all defensive at first but I definitely take your critiques (critics?) in. But when I see words like 'dumb' or 'stupid' or 'insert insult here', it comes off as rude. shrug.gif
brooklyneast05
QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 28 2007, 02:30 PM) *
She should be demoted to design staff.

LOL

QUOTE
I know I get all defensive at first but I definitely take your critiques (critics?) in. But when I see words like 'dumb' or 'stupid' or 'insert insult here', it comes off as rude.

my suggestion would be quit whining about rudeness or getting ur feelings hurt. ur a staff member, u have to be able to handle that kinda shit. toughen up and take the critique, ignore the other stuff
Sandraaa
True Colonel. But it's not that much fun when it comes from someone with whom you were once on friendly terms. Buuut, yeah, I get it. Thanks for the input.
Steven
edit: moved to next page so it's at the top and doesn't get ignored
Steven
Suck it up. Yeah Trish's thread is the only thing you closed because all the time before it you were never here thumbsup.gif
shrug.gif
rofl1.gif
:insult random insult here:
rofl1.gif

Also:
QUOTE
I mean, that's practically the only thread I closed recently in which you guys were having fun.

IF WE WERE HAVING UN WHY THE FUCK DID YOU CLOSE IT. Dumbass.





No but seriously, you are dumb. You should not be on staff. I don't mean you being dumb to be an insult, merely a statement of fact. If you wanted to appear to be halfway intelligent, you would step down from staff and admit to your faults. You might not be able to fix your faults, and I can live with that, but you should do what's best for everybody by stepping down.


QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Oct 28 2007, 02:56 PM) *
True Colonel. But it's not that much fun when it comes from someone with whom you were once on friendly terms. Buuut, yeah, I get it. Thanks for the input.

Try neutral terms. From the time you joined "Secret Agent Staff," I always thought you a tad annoying. During the misunderstandings where I tried to get back on neutral terms with you, I wasn't doing it because I thought of us as friends. I simply didn't like having someone pissed off at me for an asinine reason. In hindsight, I should have let you be pissed or w/e instead of letting you severely misinterpret things as friendly terms.
Sandraaa
GUESS WHAT??? I thought you were annoying too! And I remember telling you that! Yay. Neutral terms is correct. Great thing the feeling is mutual.

Anyway, the topic is back on.

EDIT//

Thanks for pointing the obvious then Steven (me being dumb that is). Thanks for stating the fact that I'm a f**ktud? (or something like that), stupid and others. thumbsup.gif
Steven
Answer questions please. You're pulling a f**king Suzzette. Go back and address what you haven't addressed. I've even pointed that out and you blatantly ignored.
brooklyneast05
yea that was really random for u to call me colonel
Sandraaa
QUOTE(Steven)
You do that I'll look down upon you because I think you suck as a moderator. You used to be all "YEAH f**k THE NAZI MODS". *Hmm maybe I'll apply for kicks* WHAT I GOT HIRED?!?!?!!?
*time to go against everything I used to pretend to be*

This is one I didn't reply. Here we go:

About me f**king the nazi mods, YES, I completely f**ked them. Then Elba and I decided to apply for fun. It was actually HER idea. Obviously, our application was seen as a joke.
Then, I got hired. I wasn't expecting it at all. Nobody was.

Anyway, I don't see why you'd think I'm a nazi. I actually remember an older moderator PMing me about things to and not to say because I was a mod. I already told you guys why I closed the shut up Tung thread. If I was doing this before now, nobody told me.
superstitious
I think she called you colonel because of your sig. XD

Sandra, I remember being in these situations. I think (totally my opinion) that the best thing for you to do is to calmly go piece by piece through comments/criticisms and address them as best you can. Then go from there. If it's being pointed out that you are doing something (and it's a repeated criticism), try to do something different or reopen a thread or what not.

Even if something seems spammy or seems pointless, there's a good chance that the point isn't obvious to you (or to others). I learned that so many times. You totally don't have to be friends with everyone or even on friendly terms necessarily. It is nice though when people can communicate with each other with civility and a certain degree of respect. The thing about respect though is that it has to be deserved and the degree to which one must go to get respect is completely subjective. All you can do is make a good effort to let people know that you are reading everything they are saying about you (when criticism exists) and that you address those things without taking it personally, even if a name or insult is tossed in there. Unfortunately, taking insults is part of being a staff member at times.

That was a ridiculously long paragraph. =/
Sandraaa
OMG Rebecca! throb.gif

I'm actually learning not to take things personally. It's getting me into lots of trouble. I admire those who know how to be so calm about things like this.

I'm actually juggling between the moderator changes thread, leniency thread, moderator performance thread and a few topics made in the lounge so I can reply to every critisism (I can never spell this word) made. So it's taking a while.

It is hard to be respected when you get all defensive, huh? ><

JC, omg, I'm sorry. I just had this weird moment. I thought your username was The Colonel. Oops.

Great, Steven is offline. So is Spencer. I'm changing country.
Steven
Suck it up. Yeah Trish's thread is the only thing you closed because all the time before it you were never here thumbsup.gif
shrug.gif
rofl1.gif
:insult random insult here:
rofl1.gif

Also:
QUOTE
I mean, that's practically the only thread I closed recently in which you guys were having fun.

IF WE WERE HAVING UN WHY THE FUCK DID YOU CLOSE IT. Dumbass.





No but seriously, you are dumb. You should not be on staff. I don't mean you being dumb to be an insult, merely a statement of fact. If you wanted to appear to be halfway intelligent, you would step down from staff and admit to your faults. You might not be able to fix your faults, and I can live with that, but you should do what's best for everybody by stepping down.







Please address.


Edit: Nope, not offline, just afk for extended periods of time. Guitar Hero 3 + Studying
Sandraaa
QUOTE(Steven)
Suck it up. Yeah Trish's thread is the only thing you closed because all the time before it you were never here

Everyone seems to be forgetting that I was active before my computer f**ked up. sad.gif

Also:

QUOTE(Sandra)
I mean, that's practically the only thread I closed recently in which you guys were having fun.


QUOTE(Steven)
IF WE WERE HAVING UN WHY THE f**k DID YOU CLOSE IT. Dumbass.

Spam. The community guidelines are being reviewed so there should be no confusion from now on. Hopefully, that is.

QUOTE(Steven)
No but seriously, you are dumb. You should not be on staff. I don't mean you being dumb to be an insult, merely a statement of fact. If you wanted to appear to be halfway intelligent, you would step down from staff and admit to your faults. You might not be able to fix your faults, and I can live with that, but you should do what's best for everybody by stepping down.

You're free to state whatever is on your mind. Call me dumb, stupid, f**kshit, unintelligent ... no problemo. -sucks it up- At least, you're not kissing my ass.
It wasn't my intention to ruin your fun. I just thought it was getting out of line. Too bad I came off as a Nazi. I don't think it was wrong closing the topic. I shouldn't have responded to your critiques the way I did and should have opened the topic ASAP.

If this incident should determine my ability as a moderator, I'd hate that.

I apologize to Steven, Trish and Spenc for my attitude lately and I retract (?) every unpleasant remarks (remarques?) I made.

I am forgetting how to speak English!!!!!
Steven
QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Oct 28 2007, 03:44 PM) *
Everyone seems to be forgetting that I was active before my computer f**ked up. sad.gif

Also:
Spam. The community guidelines are being reviewed so there should be no confusion from now on. Hopefully, that is.
You're free to state whatever is on your mind. Call me dumb, stupid, f**kshit, unintelligent ... no problemo. -sucks it up- At least, you're not kissing my ass.
It wasn't my intention to ruin your fun. I just thought it was getting out of line. Too bad I came off as a Nazi. I don't think it was wrong closing the topic. I shouldn't have responded to your critiques the way I did and should have opened the topic ASAP.

If this incident should determine my ability as a moderator, I'd hate that.

I apologize to Steven, Trish and Spenc for my attitude lately and I retract (?) every unpleasant remarks (remarques?) I made.

I am forgetting how to speak English!!!!!

HAY TRISH DOES THIS LOOK FAMILIAR OR WHAT!?
pandora
SANDRA!!!

QUOTE
as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open.

i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these...

also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads.


pandora
SANDRA!!!

QUOTE
as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open.

i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these...

also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads.


pandora
SANDRA!!!

QUOTE
as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open.

i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these...

also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads.


pandora
SANDRA!!!

QUOTE
as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open.

i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these...

also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads.


pandora
SANDRA!!!

QUOTE
as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open.

i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these...

also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads.


pandora
SANDRA!!!

QUOTE
as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open.

i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these...

also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads.


pandora
SANDRA!!!

QUOTE
as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open.

i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these...

also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads.


pandora
SANDRA!!!

QUOTE
as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open.

i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these...

also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads.


pandora
SANDRA!!!

QUOTE
as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open.

i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these...

also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads.


pandora
SANDRA!!!

QUOTE
as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open.

i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these...

also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads.


pandora
SANDRA!!!

QUOTE
as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open.

i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these...

also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads.


pandora
SANDRA!!!

QUOTE
as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open.

i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these...

also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads.


pandora
SANDRA!!!

QUOTE
as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open.

i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these...

also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads.


pandora
SANDRA!!!

QUOTE
as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open.

i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these...

also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads.


pandora
SANDRA!!!

QUOTE
as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open.

i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these...

also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads.


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