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jammylise
I think you can take it to small claims court.
because ive seen some that had internet cases.
but who knows. just be careful next time when hiring.
clarity
^ I do not speak for the whole community when saying this, but Suzzette has been a member of this forum for a very long time. She's also been on staff for quite a while, and did a good job. In my own opinion, I don't think anyone really saw this coming... especially from her. Yes some members have had issues with her, but from the time I've seen her in action, you wouldn't expect her to do something like this. So therefore at the time she was hired, I believe she was probably an excellent candidate, but later on I guess she just broke down or something.
karmakiller
I don't even know if it'd be worth it to take her to court over this. I'm by far no lawyer (or the child of one, ha) but in the end you might be out lawyer fees and get nothing from her. It doesn't hurt to try to build a case. She does need to learn a lesson, but I'm pretty sure no one here wants her to have a criminal record over something that happened on the internet. It wasn't like she hacked anyone. She abused her powers. That's not something deserving of a criminal record. If it's pursued, you should probably go for something small... like enough money to pay you back for your time spent getting the site back up and enough to teach her a lesson.
Steven
Civil != Criminal
Elba
QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 17 2007, 08:44 PM) *
Civil != Criminal

Does that mean "not equal to"?
Steven
yes
arcanum
I thought it was =/=?

Dang, Lucy! clap.gif
Steven
they're one and the same
Elba
How?
kryogenix
QUOTE(Blaqheartedstar @ Oct 17 2007, 06:38 PM) *
not trying to burst the bubble but IPs can change.... so if hers is still the same it can help but i wouldn't put much into that
but info provided by people who really know her can prove useful


IP traced back to ISP, ask ISP if brownsugar is a customer, check logs to see if she used that IP on the dates in question, that nails her.
technicolour
ISP's do provide a lot of information. Like Kyro said, all you have to do is trace. ISP's also know your address...and phone number...
Djlunatix
QUOTE(Elba @ Oct 17 2007, 10:55 PM) *
Does that mean "not equal to"?


lol nicely done. I didn't even know that one. 2 pts for you. :)
Blaqheartedstar
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 18 2007, 12:21 AM) *
IP traced back to ISP, ask ISP if brownsugar is a customer, check logs to see if she used that IP on the dates in question, that nails her.


didn't think of that... *hits forehead* blink.gif anyway yeah thats a good idea
hypnotique
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 18 2007, 04:21 AM) *
IP traced back to ISP, ask ISP if brownsugar is a customer, check logs to see if she used that IP on the dates in question, that nails her.

Don't ISP's have to respect the privacy of their customers unless a warrant involved?
nothin
dude suzzette, you gotta read this

seriously, just call jusun and explain what happened!!!
GETTING SUED IS LIKE 100X OWNAGE OVER WHAT YOU DID. IF YOUR DUMB ASS
DOESNT COP THE PLEA DEAL. YOU'RE GUNNA BE EATING WALKING EVERYWHERE IN TORN FLIPFLOPS AND GOING THROUGH THE TRASH OUTSIDE POPEYES!!


BTW SET UP A PAYPAL DONATIONNNNN FUND OR SOMETHING!!!

I'm sure there are people who are willing to donate to the cause ;)
Djlunatix
QUOTE(Villainess @ Oct 18 2007, 06:27 AM) *
Don't ISP's have to respect the privacy of their customers unless a warrant involved?


With it being internet relations, there are some loopholes where if a TOS is present, breaching those policies, can result in grounds high enough to obtain a warrant. But since its 2007, and the U.S. Patriot Act is often abused, given the proper authority, no Warrant is needed at all. Once again those type of cases usually involve things more serious like credit card fraud or hacking of the sorts. Corruption in administration doesn't hold well in court, whether or not there is a jury involved or not.
Steven
If he decided to take the case to court, that should be sufficient enough to warrant a request for the information. I mean, it's not like they're spying on her every move, just the times/IP's of when she was on this website.
Djlunatix
QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 18 2007, 08:05 AM) *
If he decided to take the case to court, that should be sufficient enough to warrant a request for the information. I mean, it's not like they're spying on her every move, just the times/IP's of when she was on this website.


Yes, but with the Patriot Act that is no longer needed. Getting a warrant is just as easy as making cereal. There is no true challenge with obtaining a warrant. The true challenge comes from whether or not the evidence is sufficient enough. Most online investigations are thrown out on the account of accuracy. Even though revealing and proving that Suzette is really who she says she is.. the evidence isn't strong enough, especially for any judge to offer a ruling. If anything he needs to come to a settlement with Suzette, what exactly is Micron wanting..money, embarrassment, justice? What justice can be served.. force Suzette to pay 20 bucks for whatever damages have been done. I'm aware this is a popular site, but when this happened at Mugglenet, action was attempted, and then it just died away. What is micron wanting to achieve with this public announcement of the possibility of pressing charges, she left the site, what more can be done.
iGio
QUOTE(tripvertigo @ Oct 17 2007, 06:12 PM) *
she's posted pictures of herself, hasnt she? also, jusun has her IP. i duno if that matters.


You can track down her info from IP if i'm not mistaken.
moorepocket
you can definitely do that.
hypnotique
QUOTE(wreckless @ Oct 18 2007, 12:11 PM) *
dude suzzette, you gotta read this

seriously, just call jusun and explain what happened!!!
GETTING SUED IS LIKE 100X OWNAGE OVER WHAT YOU DID. IF YOUR DUMB ASS
DOESNT COP THE PLEA DEAL. YOU'RE GUNNA BE EATING WALKING EVERYWHERE IN TORN FLIPFLOPS AND GOING THROUGH THE TRASH OUTSIDE POPEYES!!


BTW SET UP A PAYPAL DONATIONNNNN FUND OR SOMETHING!!!

I'm sure there are people who are willing to donate to the cause ;)

Its like IMPOSSIBLE to walk in torn flip flops.
moorepocket
depend of what is torn. If the thing b/w your toes is ripped. Then you can't walk.
RAWRstephishere
QUOTE(moorepocket @ Oct 18 2007, 03:30 PM) *
depend of what is torn. If the thing b/w your toes is ripped. Then you can't walk.


You can, if you walk slow and hold it together with your toes.
FoxLucky
QUOTE(tripvertigo @ Oct 17 2007, 11:57 AM) *
you dont sign contracts that say you're not going to burn all the books in the library.


Haha I know I'm far past that but that's a good one :) tongue.gif
When is the convo going to be posted? We are all just dying for the details shifty.gif
sadolakced acid
unless she actually hacked the site then it's not a clear cut case.

so pretty much, unless cB generates enough income that one day's blackout cost more than, say, 10 grand, even if jusun were to win, it wouldn't result in a good payout.

unless you could file the suit, then get someone like stephen colbert to mention it.

by the way, vote stephen colbert for president!
The-Mach-Hare
QUOTE(FoxLucky @ Oct 18 2007, 07:40 PM) *
Haha I know I'm far past that but that's a good one :) tongue.gif
When is the convo going to be posted? We are all just dying for the details shifty.gif
Everything that was said has been posted in numerous topics, it just needs to be put together.
superstitious
I think that public (and a few PERSONAL) apologies would be appreciated. Unfortunately, I don't see suing as a viable option that would yield much. She was an unpaid staff member and was given access to the Admin CP. I think if this case were ever to be set before a judge, the most one might get is a "should exercise more judgement before allowing such access."
clarity
^ Yes but she had violated the TOS, which she agreed to when first signing up. :) That was a my whole point a couple of pages back...
The-Mach-Hare
Y'all are giving this too much thought. Let Jusun do what he wants and you can be informed of the outcome and how it all went down if he wishes to let you know. Stop fighting over what he can and can't get because it's apparent you don't know everything.
CowerPointyObjects
Did we ever get the chat log?
Steven
I was going to post it but it was requested we wait for Jusun before posting anything.
superstitious
QUOTE(sp3nca @ Oct 19 2007, 01:45 PM) *
Y'all are giving this too much thought. Let Jusun do what he wants and you can be informed of the outcome and how it all went down if he wishes to let you know. Stop fighting over what he can and can't get because it's apparent you don't know everything.

People here giving too much thought to things? NAH! whistling.gif

You guys are going to post the chat? Damn, I'll have to remember to drink some wine for that.

(Kidding, sort of)
Steven
It was a chat that we had with Jusun a few days ago Rebecca, haha.
Elba
Just post it.
demolished
suz, you're a f**king idiot. you know much better than alienating jusun.

if you talked to him, he might had took consideration, changed his mind, create compromises or whatever, but no, you dumb whore. you aint replyin shit, you tramp.


think before you take action. i thought you were so much smarter than that.


You seriously don't know how much I respected you as a staff and a person. Although krygenic f**king screwed you over and make you sound like a complete dumbass, I didn't change my perspective toward you, not even a dam thing. I had always looked up to you. You did your job well. I respected you. I was very impressed of your capability. You were just great! … But that's all in the past ..., look at you now, lady. I still can't believe you could be this sort of an irrational young black girl. You don't know how much I viewed you as a great person. Yes, this is the internet. Maybe I shouldn't take this a bit farther, but seriously, did you really have you be this pathetic tramp?

Are you really happy at this moment?
Karma will slap you hard in the face, trust me.
Insurmountable
lol nice read Steven.
RAWRstephishere
Youre such a bitch.

Youre fat, rude, annoying.
I wish you were dead.
shadowfax
Errr. Do either of you know her personally to say that? (I know I don't.)
brooklyneast05
QUOTE(RAWRstephishere @ Oct 19 2007, 08:43 PM) *
Youre such a bitch.

Youre fat, rude, annoying.
I wish you were dead.


wtf?
hi-res
QUOTE(Fist @ Oct 19 2007, 09:38 PM) *
I still can’t believe you could this sort of an irrational young black girl.


Uhh..what? blink.gif

I don't understand where you're going with that but, O-K!
demolished
i'm not offending anyone, really.

if i did, i'm totally sorry. i'ma gonna delete that if you like me to.
Insurmountable
QUOTE(RAWRstephishere @ Oct 19 2007, 09:43 PM) *
Youre such a bitch.

Youre fat, rude, annoying.
I wish you were dead.



Alright guys:
QUOTE(micron @ Oct 16 2007, 04:16 PM) *
This is not a bashing thread, so please refrain from bashing her. I am doing this so that I can present my case to a lawyer with as much information as possible.


First post of the thread, no more bashing or anything offensive.
Joss-eh-lime
honestly what she did was against the law?
what law?
the law of CB?

hm.
Tung
QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Oct 22 2007, 04:36 PM) *
honestly what she did was against the law?
what law?
the law of CB?

hm.


Black girls unite! Rofl.
clarity
QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Oct 22 2007, 07:36 PM) *
honestly what she did was against the law?
what law?
the law of CB?

hm.


T-T Well... I could get started on my TOS rant again although I don't have the time seeing as you could go look back a few pages.
Joss-eh-lime
^okay, i guess ill go find it.
hypnotique
QUOTE
honestly what she did was against the law?
what law?
the law of CB?

hm.


^Its called "Vandallism"
Reading helps sometimes mellow.gif
Simba
QUOTE(Fist @ Oct 19 2007, 08:38 PM) *
You seriously don't know how much I respected you as a staff and a person. Although krygenic f**king screwed you over and make you sound like a complete dumbass, I didn't change my perspective toward you, not even a dam thing. I had always looked up to you. You did your job well. I respected you. I was very impressed of your capability. You were just great! … But that's all in the past ..., look at you now, lady. I still can't believe you could be this sort of an irrational young black girl. You don't know how much I viewed you as a great person. Yes, this is the internet. Maybe I shouldn't take this a bit farther, but seriously, did you really have you be this pathetic tramp?

Are you really happy at this moment?
Karma will slap you hard in the face, trust me.
cry.gif That was touching.


(But, uh, what did being black have to do with anything?)
hypnotique
QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Oct 23 2007, 06:16 PM) *
cry.gif That was touching.
(But, uh, what did being black have to do with anything?)

BLACK HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING IN LIFE.

Arjuna you should know that.
Sandraaa
Jesus f**k, y'all is raycist!!
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