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tripvertigo
Ok so I just read a few posts in mod perf concerning mods not being able to answer questions about the tracker.

I understand that Jusun is the one that made the thing, and only he would know how to answer certain questions because no one else on staff is... educated enough about the subject...


but dont you guys think that come time the next hiring round, you could try and find people that have a better working knowledge of the IT aspect of the site, as well as how to use the forum application expertly? (proactively, because i understand that your perfect mod squad may or may not apply for modship)

i mean even if they dont have a lot of posts, maybe you can give the person a "special" status for only IT related issues?
Steven
What else, other than the tracker, would they work with? Honest question.
tripvertigo
there was an issue a while ago when Sammi tried to make the new VIP Lounge and ended up making the backstage public.


there are sometimes issues with the forum application not working, or resource submissions not going through.

this person doesnt need to actually fix these problems, but at least have a working knowledge of everything in order to answer simple questions.

doesnt it seem kind of silly to have to wait for jusun to decide to magically appear on the boards again (which occurs once maybe every three months) to fulfill the simplest of requests and answer the most basic questions?
Steven
Sure, but why wait for another hiring session? Why not have some people on staff, or even off staff (it's not like non-staff is forbidden from helping out) learn or figure it out?

Maybe you're an expert on the matter?
Insurmountable
Who do you really think we could hire that has great knowledge of the tracker? Please list a few names. And I mean if we only had someone that we did hire to answer questions about the tracker then I suggest we just make a tracker support and only give them mod powers to that specific forum.
tripvertigo
is there anyone on staff that would be willing to learn? i mean i dont think its something that you could learn on your own in a fast enough timeframe, because in addition to teaching yourself the basics of programming, you'd also have to go and research the tracker and the ipb forum application, as well as jusun' modifications and the rest of the cb4 application.


i don't know of anyone that you could hire right now. it's just a suggestion.

as for making a tracker support forum, why not just a general CB support forum (which would be a child of feedback)?
Insurmountable
I mean I'll learn about it and I do know some things about the tracker but I just never bothered to know who visits my stuff to even care o_O

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as for making a tracker support forum, why not just a general CB support forum (which would be a child of feedback)?


Oh well yea thats what I meant just call it a CB support


Do you know a lot about the tracker and such? And god what is your name? Trish or Christina? o_O
Steven
Hell I wouldn't mind learning, never hurts to broaden your knowledge, but if time's an issue, shrug.gif
tripvertigo
i dont know anything about the tracker, and i dont think anyone COULD know unless they could see the coding behind it, which is why im just saying we should find someone who knows how to program, who is an experienced architect that can do some research on what jusun's already done.


i think a while back, Henry was sort of our default IT support guy when Jusun wasnt around, and I know he was a part of the development of cb3/cb2 (one of those or both, i'm not sure), and...some guy... i forget his name was like our secondary.
Insurmountable
Well to add, I think its a great idea. I think it woudl be good to add a CB support in to the support center and I've actually brought something up like that in the past because of all the tracker questions that come around.


^and who are they, are they still around or no?
tripvertigo
i think that "secondary" guy developed some of the older cb tools, btw.

god, i cant remember the guy's name.

my name is Christina. Trish here because people kept getting confused between me and Kurisu, and it's just a nickname from an inside joke i had with some of my friends in highschool.

I go by Christine at work cuz there's a developer named Christina, and we needed some way for our boss to address us separately because he works closely with both of us.



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henry's a douchebag and has been gone for ages. supposedly he got in a car accident, which is right about the time he was supposed to deliver some heavy backend coding for one of my clients, and ditched me, and I ended up having to compensate the lady from my own pocket (because henry took off with her money). i'm not suggesting we utilize either of the above mentioned people.

i was just citing examples of this in the past.
tripvertigo
Roxanne would be a good example of someone who could fill this position. but she's inactive too.

i miss her :[



I nominate Josh.
Insurmountable
Oh alright _smile.gif


Perhaps if we can get Jusun around he can explain it backstage or something o_O although I've tried getting ahold of him like I normally do and last time didn't work o_O Hope hes not having some family problems or anything again.
tripvertigo

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I was just kidding, Josh.
Insurmountable
I would joke to much, Josh would do it...well i mean if he wanted..

Wow, I haven't seen Roxanne in ages.
tripvertigo
josh probably could do it if the staff liked him enough to consider him as an option.

to steven's earlier post, no i dont consider myself an expert on the subject.
Insurmountable
The staff doesn't like Josh?
Steven
I've no problems w/ him
Uronacid
Alright, I figured out where the problem probably lies within the IP tracker. I have been looking into it, and it's a pretty nifty tool. From my understanding, it's a database. It's a list of IP addresses in a database that's consistently being updated by it's users.

The IP tracker even has the ability to add pictures of the person associated with an IP address by linking up to myspace and pulling a users default profile picture using their MySpace ID number.

Recently this feature has stopped working. The tracker, however, still works. IP's are still being tracked but pictures are no longer being updated. Some how, MySpace has been updated in such a way that the IP tracker cannot update its database of pictures associated with MySpace ID numbers associated with IP addesses. So, technically the IP tracker still works. The only problem is that it's picture capabilities have been crippled.

This could be for a variety of reasons. We know for a fact that this started in June. Also, old pictures aren't being updated. So, communication with the default photos based on MySpace IDs has been completely cut off.

For now, the only thing you can do is wait for Ju-Sun. Even if we had a programmer here to fix it, they probably wouldn't be able to do anything for days. This is Ju-Sun's code, and for someone else to understand the code he wrote would probably take weeks if they didn't have his guidance or supervision.

Another Ju-Sun would be nice, but it would be impossible. this site is run entirely by volunteers. For someone with expert knowledge to repair the tracker it would cost money. I would not fix these problems unless I was being payed to do it. It would take hours of work. The trouble shooting process is not easy.

I do know how to program in Java/VB Script/Active Directory/SQL/VisualBasic.Net, but that doesn't not mean I want to volunteer hours of my time to so. Especially if I can't even put it on my resume.
Steven

And there you have it
Insurmountable
Yep I guess they do.

Thank you Josh.
Uronacid
QUOTE(Insurmountable @ Oct 8 2007, 03:29 PM) *
Yep I guess they do.

Thank you Josh.


QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 8 2007, 03:28 PM) *
And there you have it


Was that really what you guys were looking for? O_o
Steven
Honestly, I haven't got the slightest clue on how the tracker works. I think that even though the answer may not have been positive, it was conclusive.
Uronacid
QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 8 2007, 03:47 PM) *
Honestly, I haven't got the slightest clue on how the tracker works. I think that even though the answer may not have been positive, it was conclusive.


Well, thanks.

This is the first time I have felt appreciated since I was actually nice and that was in like June 06'. ^^
Villainess
Hire josh Plz.
Tung
Yo Josh, you got the Harry POtter look going on, and the brains. Man i want to be like you when i grow up.
Michelle
I wouldn't mind Josh.

As long as he has no warning powers laugh.gif he can have his own group, like cB support or something.
Tung
its "He can have" lol he can has sounds really fobby. It reminded me of Ryan (moorepocket).
Michelle
QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Oct 8 2007, 03:21 PM) *
its "He can have" lol he can has sounds really fobby. It reminded me of Ryan (moorepocket).

Sorry, at least I don't suck clits constantly, persistently, and badly. happy.gif
Steven
QUOTE(Villainess @ Oct 8 2007, 02:59 PM) *
Hire josh Plz.



QUOTE(Michelle @ Oct 8 2007, 03:19 PM) *
I wouldn't mind Josh.

As long as he has no warning powers laugh.gif he can have his own group, like cB support or something.


I agree
Uronacid
QUOTE(Michelle @ Oct 8 2007, 04:19 PM) *
I wouldn't mind Josh.

As long as he has no warning powers laugh.gif he can have his own group, like cB support or something.


Can I have moding powers in the technical forum?
Steven
Yes but you may only use them to make people look silly.
tripvertigo
well i was saying they dont have to repair the issues, but at least should answer questions, in a way that's not like "it's not working, we have to wait for jusun, and honestly i dont care because i dont use the tracker anyway"

a more educated answer is what most people are usually looking for.
Michelle
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Oct 8 2007, 03:31 PM) *
Can I have moding powers in the technical forum?


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


shit! You would have to, if that's what you're in charge for. LOL

QUOTE(tripvertigo @ Oct 8 2007, 03:33 PM) *
well i was saying they dont have to repair the issues, but at least should answer questions, in a way that's not like "it's not working, we have to wait for jusun, and honestly i dont care because i dont use the tracker anyway"

a more educated answer is what most people are usually looking for.

Agreed.

And Josh can do that! (I think)
Steven
I believe Josh gave a pretty well educated answer as seen above...
tripvertigo
obviously. but he was saying that he wouldnt want to devote time to repair it, which is why i just reiterated myself.
Michelle
Oh. I thought we were just looking for someone to answer questions for the time being. I think it'd be nice to have 2-3 people who know a lot about it and can answer questions, and one trained person (by Jusun) who knows how to work it, etc.
Steven
QUOTE(tripvertigo @ Oct 8 2007, 03:36 PM) *
obviously. but he was saying that he wouldnt want to devote time to repair it, which is why i just reiterated myself.


Hmmmm...
QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 8 2007, 03:35 PM) *
I believe Josh gave a pretty well educated answer as seen above...


QUOTE(tripvertigo @ Oct 8 2007, 03:33 PM) *
well i was saying they dont have to repair the issues, but at least should answer questions, in a way that's not like "it's not working, we have to wait for jusun, and honestly i dont care because i dont use the tracker anyway"

a more educated answer is what most people are usually looking for.

Tung
QUOTE(Michelle @ Oct 8 2007, 01:22 PM) *
Sorry, at least I don't suck clits constantly, persistently, and badly. happy.gif


Hey i don't suck clits
I suck Bananas.
Get it straight!
Steven
But you insinuate that you want to suck certain people's clits.
Michelle
QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Oct 8 2007, 03:43 PM) *
Hey i don't suck clits
I suck Bananas.
Get it straight!


Oh sowwi. Banana = big clit? Some people have clits the sizes of penises. They have a disease, I forgot what it's called.

"Stick to the topic please thumbsup.gif"
Tung
Who is this certain people?
And if it's trish. She don't got a clit. She got a penis with the name Rico tattooed on it.
Steven
QUOTE(Michelle @ Oct 8 2007, 03:44 PM) *
Oh sowwi. Banana = big clit? Some people have clits the sizes of penises. They have a disease, I forgot what it's called.

"Stick to the topic please thumbsup.gif"

Intersexual I believe.

Kay back to topic.
tripvertigo
too far, tung.

Steve...

i was REITERATING myself because it seemed like he thought i wanted these people to repair issues... which I specifically said I didn't want, because obviously Jusun wouldnt want people messing with his code unless he really trusted them.
tripvertigo
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this person doesnt need to actually fix these problems, but at least have a working knowledge of everything in order to answer simple questions.


QUOTE
I do know how to program in Java/VB Script/Active Directory/SQL/VisualBasic.Net, but that doesn't not mean I want to volunteer hours of my time to so. Especially if I can't even put it on my resume.


QUOTE
well i was saying they dont have to repair the issues, but at least should answer questions, in a way that's not like "it's not working, we have to wait for jusun, and honestly i dont care because i dont use the tracker anyway"

a more educated answer is what most people are usually looking for.


so i was um... agreeing with him.


i dunno what your problem is, steve. maybe this confused you?

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in a way that's not like "it's not working, we have to wait for jusun, and honestly i dont care because i dont use the tracker anyway"



but i was giving an example of what the average staff member usually says.
Insurmountable
Yea currently all we need is someone that can answer the questions and actually can form some knowledge of the tracker.
tripvertigo
yes. thank you. maybe now that that's cleared up, steven can move on to actually giving some useful input on the subject, rather than constantly try to decipher whatever i say as if it's some cryptic or passive agressive statement.
Michelle
-_- Jesus f**king Christ.

WE NEED SOMEONE TO f**kING ANSWER QUESTIONS. AND MOST OF US WANT JOSH TO DO IT.

Cool.
Steven
The way you worded it gave the appearance as if you were making a retort towards the general responses because we'd been missing your point.

If you interpreted my responses as if I were trying to decipher what you say, you're mistaken.

Also, I do believe I've given input. L2read imo.
Michelle
Well, we pretty much need to wait to hear Suzzette's and Mona's input on this. (And the rest of Head Staff)

But I'm pretty sure Josh is the best choice. I can't think of a single other person who is active who would do a better job. happy.gif
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