i guess the issue on illegal immigrants is becoming more apparent than before. what do you guys think? should something be done to stop this or should something be done?


personally i think the government NEEDS to crack down on these people. its unfair if dishonest people cross the border line or reside in america for a longer period of time than allowed.

The government then needs to crack down on all illegal immergrants, because they will allow cubans in but they will turn away those from Hati. Personally i am fine with illegal immergrants because they aren't hurting me and are helping the economy so...

i dont think anything should be done actually



i believe the world should be this little grassland and the lions and bears and blacks and whites and asians, ect all run free with the wind.


like pochahontas =]

no i dont think anything should be done

its helping our economy

We should concentrate on fighting terrorism, not immigration. Oepn borders more and scan more.

As long as they speak english I don't care, but it annoys me to no end when someone that's been immigrated here for say 10 years and still can't speak a word of English!!

i guess thats a nice way to look at it. considering those open borders allow terrorists to come into america more easily. the "scan more" part isn't gonna happen since we have more pressing things to worry about as of now. such as the situation in iraq.

I think illegal immigration is fine I guess. It is helping our economy and stuff...

I disagree. Closed borders take resources away from terrorism-fighting and put them into immigration-fighting, whereas open but scanned borders let us watch closer. The War on Iraq is a distraction and will cause more terrorism anyway.

illegal immigration is something that is keeping our country running...

no. it isn't. legal immigration helps, not illegal immigration.

What's the difference? A piece of paper.

We should abolish welfare. That way, only hard working immigrants that help the economy will enter the country. All the parasites will have no reason to enter our country. Best solution there.

Plus no tax money to waste on welfare programs either. A win win situation!

i'M with her.

It's also preventing legal americans from obtaining jobs. if the government cracked down on this, then companies would have to hire americans rather than illegal immigrants.

Exactly.

Cracking down on immigration is only going to violate civil liberties, have no effect whatsoever on the economy, and we're still left with the problem of an overbloated welfare state.

We need to tackle the root of the problem, and that is government entitlement.

It is not preventing legal Americans from getting jobs. Becuase the jobs that illegal immergrants do are jobs that americans consider lowly. These lazy Americans would apply for the job in the first place. Illegal immergrants do the jobs that Americans feel that they are too good to do.

I totally agree

me too. like being a maid.

"Illegal immigrants have always been a problem here. Just ask any Indian."
--Robert Orben

Are you saying working at Walmart is a lowly job? Walmart has been accused of hiring illegal immigrants. If the government would crack down on this, Walmart would be forced to hire legal americans.

You offend my parents.
Well, does it really matter? It's not really affecting many people.
Yea, Walmart hired illegal immigrants for a lower price. If they hired for equal price, there would be no major motivation for the immigrants.

yo dont be fricking racist, think about being in their shoes, it aint their fault, u try being one of them, they have no other choice, its either that or die

plus we cant make them leave cuz than i would have to go 2...

but its been proven that immigrants work harder than the average american

How do you prove something like that ... exactly?

If I focus and type a paper in one hour and then partied for three hours, did I work more hard or less hard than someone who types the same paper in four hours while relaxing with drinks and music?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0377744/board/nest/8316385

the border patrol has turned into lazy people and also wusses

wait, are you telling me if Walmart paid illegal immigrants at minimum wage, the illegal immigrants wouldn't want to work anymore? Are you saying if they received a raise, they would no longer be motivated to work? If the government cracked down on walmart, walmart would no longer have any incentive to hire illegals.



it's not racist. you can be against illegal immigrants of the same race.

nothing should be done...
because theyre not exactly doing anything bad
theyre just doing the jobs that the average lazy american wont do...

where do u get ur strawberries and stuff?
nobody wants to be in the field picking strawberries all day...
its the [majority] immigrants doing those hard jobs....

and they HAVE to make a living...usually the countries where they come from are really undeveloped and unindustrialized..which mean, no jobs for them...

Well...working at walmart is a lowly job anyway.... Plus they're sexist.

Thank You!

i agree with juliar...that offends my parents too...its hard to learn a whole new language when ur a full grown adult.....

You offend a thousand generations of ancestors.

Well, funny some of you are against it. ALOT of the people i know in the US (cousins, friends, parents' friends) are illigal. They'll probably get their papers NE ways, but they had it so bad that they had to leave thier contry. Some of them just want to learn english and study here so i see no problem, depending on the reason.

wait, usually when something is labeled illegal, it's bad. because of them, money is being spent for border patrols. i'm fine with immigrants doing that work, just not illegal immigrants. it's not fair to the legal immigrants, as well as those born here. if they want to make a living, they can do so in their country, or they can legally emigrate to the united states.

the border patrol doesnt simply look out for illegal immigrants.. they check for illegal products (ie. drugs) too.. but there're so many ppl that want to immigrate.. the process takes a substantial amount of time.. and some cannot make a living in their own country

I disagree and agree with you in certain respects..

Disagree: illegal immigrants that work should be allowed to stay.. they're still benefiting society.. why not?

Agree: its not fair to those legal immigrants that spent the time legally establishing themselves..

too me, whether or not they benefit out society is irrelavent. the fact that they're here through illegal means erases those positive effects. if they weren't there to do those jobs that positively effect us, legal citizens would. not only is it unfair to the people that waited to get their citizenships, greencards, visas, and etc its just downright wrong. if we turn a blind eye to it, what's the purpose of the system that's being implemented now to regulate the amount of people immigrating in and out?

I dont like it becasue they take our money and stuff and it is just a bad thing then they think they own the US when the come here... err.

Exactly, if they came to this country to form a better life, don't you think they would try just a bit harder? I can't explain how much people like that annoy me. I suppose it's because I myself am latino, and many people once they see one who dosn't speak english and has a dead end job, they expect all spanish people to be the same.

That and many people believe we're all from Mexico and eat tacos on a daily basis. I don't like tacos...

1) kick out all illegals, ESPECIALLY those who have commited a crime
2) close the borders a bit, and make it harder to get in
3) cut welfare DRASTICALLY, its way overused.... make it VERY hard to obtain and allow only 6 months on...if you can't get SOME sort of job in 6 months, you probably dont deserve your kids anyway
4) thank you to whoever made the english comment...we shouldnt HAVE to adopt a second and third language just because you're too freakin lazy to learn the NATIVE LANGUAGE OF THE NATION
5) I know theyre a part of the economy and such, but theres plenty of jkobless and homeless americans who could be sent there instead of welfare lines

Illegal Immgrants.....hmmm kick them out...i mean how hard is it to take the freakin test to get your papers....or to write there embassy to get help...i say kick them all out till they get there papers

How hard? Do you know how many freaking ppl wait to take the test? How freaking neglectful some embassies can be? And if we kick them out.. they'll lose their jobs.. jobs that they may not be able to get back or afford losing.. I say to keep the current ones already established.. but like was mentioned.. make it a lot harder to get in

i completely agree.



its not out concern if illegal immigrants loose jobs they had no right to obtain in the first place. it IS pretty hard to get visas to come to america. to me its unethical for them to come here illegally. if they have such a bad life there, they've probably been dealing with it for a long time. what's the difference if they wait a couple of years? that way they have all the rights associated with america and can say that they truely ARE legal immigrants and not some idiot that jumped the border.

Obviously, you dont have much sympathy for them... well, the diff is that they could starve or otherwise perish within a few years..

Yes, its unethical to come here illegally, but its also unethical to kick them back for them to die.. two wrongs dont make a right

dude. look at what you're saying. according to you, we might as well not put anyone in prison, because it would be unethical to punish them like that. there are consequences to sneaking into a country illegally.

by not punishing illegals, you're telling terrorists that they can get into the US and nothing will be done to them.

Bleh.. its hard arguing for the side I'm personally against, no one else was arguing it, so cut me some slack!

Ok, so maybe I set myself up for that one..

You got me on the first one, but on the second on, that's not what I'm saying.. I'm saying that we do nothing for the ones already here.. but we close all the borders and not allow anymore in

by letting the ones who already made it stay, you undermine the authority of the law. you're not teaching the wannabe illegal immigrants anything. the goal is to teach them that you aren't supposed to try to sneak in, and if you do, you'll be deported so there's no point in sneaking in. by allowing them to stay, you're telling the wannabe illegals that if you get caught sneaking in you're screwed, but if you make it, you're safe.

i thankyou for playing the devil's advocate on this one.

Mm.. I guess you have a point there.. but the ones that make it in still contribute to the country.. they have jobs and help the economy (in a very insignificant manner, I know but they still do).. still.. perhaps the ones not adequately established that are jobless should be kicked out.. but would you support kicking someone out that has a job, just bought a house and has lived in the US for a while, just never discovered?

Do you remember an incident called 9/11. Since then it has been even harder for people to obtain citizenship. Even berfore that it was very difficult for people to obtain citizenship.


Sure if they have committed a crime, but those who haven't done anything shouldn't be punished. Illegal aliens help our economy and I'm all for helping our economy. Plus doesn't hurt me, them being here, so why not. We are the country of immergrants

illegal aliens can't obtain welfare


Too lazy? English is the hardest language to learn, and what about those with learning disabilities?



I never said working at Walmart was lowly but many Americans do believe that. Also why hire some lazy legal americans when you could hire someone who would do a much better job and wouldn't take things for granted

It takes years to simply to get your greencard and your residency. Let alone your citizenship, that takes even longer. Yes there are many immigrants who abuse the things they recieve, and who make no progress to actually better there lives. But that's no reason to simply kick them all out.

so because it takes so long, you're saying we can let them cheat the system by sneaking in.

why? why make laws preventing illegal immigration and border patrols when you're going to reward them for sneaking in? it doesn't make sense.