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brundleswat
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 27 2007, 03:33 PM) *
I swear Jeremy. You always insist upon stealing all my Gay. We should build an underwater city where people inject Gay into their bloodstream and gain super powers. Quite frankly it pisses me right the fuck off that you steal my Gay. Now go get stomped on by a big daddy, would you kindly?
Josh, will you harvest the little girl or will you exorcise her demons? I leave the choice to you, but she is a psychotic biotch who is gonna die at the end of the game anyways. And NO, you have enough gay, Im keeping the little bit I got left, so go be an ass face penis lump.
Sabastian
THIS IS A QUESTION ONLY A GAY PERSON CAN ANSWER


Homosexuality is just about the same as a man preferring blond women over brunettes or fat women over skinny. I think its all the same.. its just a question of what you prefer.

Never in my life do I ever recall choosing to be "gay" nor do I ever remember liking girls. I'm a Christian and I do believe that it wasn't so much an actual choice that I made conciously but rather a choice that I made subconsciously. Like if you were to get feelings towards the same sex then you shouldn't enforce it, and enforcing it would be the same as you "choosing" it.

However, im still trying to figure out how its a sin. Well yea because God didn't intend men to like men or women to like women, but it seems that trying to contort my mind to liking the opposite sex seems a lot more wrong then keeping my sexual preference to how it is.

know what I mean? pooh.gif
Tung
QUOTE(SpankMeHard @ Sep 27 2007, 07:54 PM) *
THIS IS A QUESTION ONLY A GAY PERSON CAN ANSWER


I agreed. Let's end this debate, and have all the gays here on cB answer this question. Starting with me, lol jk.
Steven
Gay christian? I think you're going to hell.

You're A-Okay in my book though, religion = suck imo.
brundleswat
No, he's gonna burn in the lake of Mount Vesuvius after the demons Mephistophocles and Beelzebub eat his soul and his eyes and his tongue and he will walk the underworld blind, deaf, and dumb and all will know this was the fool who thought he could be gay and christian
Sabastian
QUOTE(The-Abominable-CPillar @ Sep 28 2007, 11:22 AM) *
No, he's gonna burn in the lake of Mount Vesuvius after the demons Mephistophocles and Beelzebub eat his soul and his eyes and his tongue and he will walk the underworld blind, deaf, and dumb and all will know this was the fool who thought he could be gay and christian


How do you explain that we can all be sinners and some of us still be Christian. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I don't intend on continuing to live the lifestyle that I'm living, there is a process that you have to go through in order to stop sinning. Such as alcoholics, they don't just stop drinking they have to break their addiction through a process. Its very rare to find an alcoholic that just stops drinking the day that he decides to stop.

And for those of you who are asking.. WELL WHY DID YOU TURN GAY IN THE FIRST PLACE?

As I mentioned before I don't ever recall ever being attracted to women and I never recall ever forcing myself to like men, its just the way I was brought up. Its a hard concept to grasp if your not willing to be open minded.

Steven
lol @ christianity
who cares about sinning if its only effecting yourself?
Sabastian
When you rape a little girl does that only effect you?
When you cheat on your wife does it only effect you?
When you kill somebody does it only effect you?
When you commit suicide does it only effect you?

sinning effects everyone around us. :3
Steven
You're an idiot.

Suicide is the only thing that remotely relates to what I said. I said things that only effect you, and some selfish people or very lonely people might think that suicide only effects them.

I sin on a daily basis, and I guarantee that it doesn't make everyone around me worse off.
Sabastian
you said who cares about sinning if its only effecting yourself, then i listed some sins which most certainly do not only effect yourself.

Steven
Which completely contradicted what I said. Are you listening to yourself?
Tung
Lol the best part of being atheist is you can sin all you want. lmao
NoSex
QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Sep 28 2007, 04:09 PM) *
Lol the best part of being atheist is you can sin all you want. lmao


No, that's the best part about being a Christian.

Anyone here a determinist?
Uronacid
QUOTE(NoSex @ Sep 28 2007, 07:22 PM) *
No, that's the best part about being a Christian.

Anyone here a determinist?

dude, why are you so f**king gay? seriously, everything about you annoys me. I cant stand how you are so goddamn ignorant to EVERYTHING and yet you have this self-absorbed elitist attitude like you're better than everyone. You're a f**kin loser. When you eventually pull the trigger on your useless, pointless, friendless, and ultimately virgintile life, no one will care. Your mother will just be happy you've finally left the house after 45 years. Any possible friends you might have over Dungeons and Dragons online will be all too happy to scavenge through your "pile of loot" or whatever the f**k it is. Goddamn it dude, youre such a f**king f*g, you annoy me more than anyone else Ive ever seen on this site, more than sean ho, more than James, more than everyone. I hope some chick pretends to want to have sex with you and then just takes pictures of your small dick and shows them to all your co-workers at the dishwashers. I hope some little girl accuses you of exposing yourself to her and you do five years in a prison where some 300 lb Mexican named Juan is just gonna pump gallons of semen in your stretched out a-hole. I cannot wait for that day. Go kill yourself you f**kin loser. And if you actually do kill yourself, I will feel absolutely no remorse in being the one who told you to kill yourself because you are such a hobbit f**king loser and the world will be better without an a-hole like you taking oxygen that can be used on someone worthwhile. I wish your mother had clothesline aborted you.

-The Abominable Cpillar
(didnt realize Josh was signed on this computer)
NoSex
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Oct 1 2007, 08:57 PM) *
Go kill yourself you f**kin loser.


You're upset.
Uronacid
QUOTE(Steven @ Sep 28 2007, 04:54 PM) *
Which completely contradicted what I said. Are you listening to yourself?


He's definitively taking your post out of context, but you are wrong when you say that "small" sins don't effect anyone but yourself. It is effecting those around you in a negative when compared to how you would be effecting those around you if didn't sin at all. If you were perfect then you wouldn't be wasting all your time by doing other things that are sinful. Instead, you would be doing things that would effect people in a positive way. I'm guilty of being sinful too (obviously), but I just had to point that out. SpankMeHard, you're still ignorant.

QUOTE(NoSex @ Oct 1 2007, 10:42 PM) *
You're upset.


Naw, he's just wishing upon your death I think. I saw him throwing pennies into the fountain at the mall yesterday.

"I wish Nate dies!"
*penny*
"I wish Nate dies!"
*penny*

but in response to your question about determinism, I agree with Jeremy. You could have simply said something similar like, "do you believe in fate?", but you just had to use a word "determinism". When speaking to an audience you should try to relate to that audience. I can guarantee that more than half the members of this site will find themselves looking at wikipedia after they read your post. I assume your response to that statement would be, "I'm not speaking to the idiots of cB."

I would place a bet that more less than 10% of the United States knows what that word means. Truth is, most people have no reason to waste there time on the meaning of the word determinist/determinism. I think Jeremy is right when he says you have a "self-absorbed elitist attitude". This is strange because the life you lead is not something to be proud of (at least in my opinion). You are the most self-absorbed dishwasher I have ever met, but more power to you if you're happy.

Save yourselves some time cuBers, click here.
Uronacid
f**k me... double post.
MissFits
QUOTE(SpankMeHard @ Sep 28 2007, 12:56 PM) *
When you rape a little girl does that only effect you?
When you cheat on your wife does it only effect you?
When you kill somebody does it only effect you?
When you commit suicide does it only effect you?

sinning effects everyone around us. :3


Those things affect others, but someone being gay does not!
Have you ever seen two gay people walking down the street together?
Did you get AIDs because of that? Did God strike you down where you stood?
Obviously not, so why complain about something that doesn't matter?
brundleswat
QUOTE(MissFits @ Oct 2 2007, 09:14 AM) *
Those things affect others, but someone being gay does not!
Have you ever seen two gay people walking down the street together?
Did you get AIDs because of that? Did God strike you down where you stood?
Obviously not, so why complain about something that doesn't matter?

I saw some buffed out d*kes holding hands, and the next day I got diabetes. I'd like to believe there is some connection there.

I watched an episode of Will and Grace, and the next day my girlfriend broke up with me. She says it's cause of my small penis, but I think it was because of the goddamn gay.

When I was little, I painted a picture of a rainbow. The next day, my father killed my mother with a hatchet. It wasn't until years later that I realized it was from the gay, not his drinking and the fact that he was off his pills. It was the gay...

I had a friend who wore a pink colored shirt as a joke. We still can't find all of his body. We did find a few chunks, but we're still not 100% what they are. They say it was a bear, we think it was the gay. It'll get ya every time.

As far as God striking you down, God is gay. Thats why he hasnt gassed all the gays yet. Maybe someday we can get him the rehabilitation he needs, but for now he's in heaven singing "It's Raining Men" in his neon green biking shorts and his pink bandanna tied to the front.

QUOTE(NoSex @ Oct 1 2007, 10:42 PM) *
You're upset.

I truly do wish death on you. Think of it this way, maybe you'll get killed in some old menopausal bitch's house while someone holds a camera and blows snot all over the lens. That'd be your dream death.
Uronacid
Nate's a ball licking cum guzzler
brundleswat
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Oct 2 2007, 10:41 AM) *
Nate's a ball licking cum guzzler

Agreed. I heard afterwards, he likes to floss with the guy's pubes. Ewwwww....
Uronacid
QUOTE(MissFits @ Oct 2 2007, 09:14 AM) *
Those things affect others, but someone being gay does not!
Have you ever seen two gay people walking down the street together?
Did you get AIDs because of that? Did God strike you down where you stood?
Obviously not, so why complain about something that doesn't matter?


You have food in your mouth.
BeCoolHoneyBunny
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Oct 1 2007, 08:57 PM) *
dude, why are you so f**king gay? seriously, everything about you annoys me. I cant stand how you are so goddamn ignorant to EVERYTHING and yet you have this self-absorbed elitist attitude like you're better than everyone. You're a f**kin loser. When you eventually pull the trigger on your useless, pointless, friendless, and ultimately virgintile life, no one will care. Your mother will just be happy you've finally left the house after 45 years. Any possible friends you might have over Dungeons and Dragons online will be all too happy to scavenge through your "pile of loot" or whatever the f**k it is. Goddamn it dude, youre such a f**king f*g, you annoy me more than anyone else Ive ever seen on this site, more than sean ho, more than James, more than everyone. I hope some chick pretends to want to have sex with you and then just takes pictures of your small dick and shows them to all your co-workers at the dishwashers. I hope some little girl accuses you of exposing yourself to her and you do five years in a prison where some 300 lb Mexican named Juan is just gonna pump gallons of semen in your stretched out a-hole. I cannot wait for that day. Go kill yourself you f**kin loser. And if you actually do kill yourself, I will feel absolutely no remorse in being the one who told you to kill yourself because you are such a hobbit f**king loser and the world will be better without an a-hole like you taking oxygen that can be used on someone worthwhile. I wish your mother had clothesline aborted you.

-The Abominable Cpillar
(didnt realize Josh was signed on this computer)



Nate, the Abominable Cpillar is right. The knowledge of the Abominable Cpillar has you at quite a disadvantage. I really think you should consider suicide, at least as an alternative to Mexican Sodomy. I mean, friends don't let friends get raped.

P.S. Do you want to go through your loot after D&D online practice tomorrow? I think I left my math book in there.
Uronacid
QUOTE(BeCoolHoneyBunny @ Oct 3 2007, 12:19 AM) *
Nate, the Abominable Cpillar is right. The knowledge of the Abominable Cpillar has you at quite a disadvantage. I really think you should consider suicide, at least as an alternative to Mexican Sodomy. I mean, friends don't let friends get raped.

P.S. Do you want to go through your loot after D&D online practice tomorrow? I think I left my math book in there.


LMAO, this guy just came out of no-where.
illriginal
Homosexuality is more of a trauma. Molestation... and curiosity... Wish it was a gene, if it was we could potentially kill off the gay gene so the human race could prosper LOL (damn I'm so evil, I make Hitler look like Jesus)
LoveToMySilas
I'll post what I wrote from the other thread.

QUOTE
Actually, it IS programmed into some of us. I remember my teacher telling me something about how we all have channels in our brains. Some of us have 2 (straight) while others have 4 (gay). I think if you look it up you can find out more about it, but yeah, you're born with it.
Comptine
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Feb 14 2008, 10:18 PM) *
Homosexuality is more of a trauma. Molestation... and curiosity... Wish it was a gene, if it was we could potentially kill off the gay gene so the human race could prosper LOL (damn I'm so evil, I make Hitler look like Jesus)



No, you don't make Hitler look like Jesus. You just make yourself look like an ignorant bigot.

And the human race has NO problem whatsoever with prospering.
ieatbugs4fun
QUOTE(omgomgKATHY @ Aug 27 2007, 11:19 PM) *
that's...uhh...something. blink.gif



thats stupid. they are the way they are because they want to and they are obviously not bummed out about not enjoying the things the rest of us do as far as sex goes because that was there CHOICE. its not like they picked the short straw and have to be gay and that they suffer from it. how stupid
illriginal
QUOTE(resplendence @ Feb 15 2008, 03:31 PM) *

No, you don't make Hitler look like Jesus. You just make yourself look like an ignorant bigot.

And the human race has NO problem whatsoever with prospering.


Erm anyways...

According to The Times, researchers at Oregon State University in the city of Corvallis and at the Oregon Health and Science University in Portland were able to "pinpoint the mechanisms influencing the desires of 'male-oriented' rams by studying their brains".

Specifically, they cut open the offending sheeps' skulls, attached electonic sensors to their grey matter and monitored them while "varying the hormone levels, mainly by injecting hormones into the brain". They reported "considerable success" in getting previously gay rams to consider a bit of boy-on-girl.

The purpose behind these experiments is to "improve the productivity of herds" since "approximately one ram in 10 prefers to mount other rams rather than mate with ewes". The implications are far more sinister, opponents claim, since the acquired knowledge could in the future be used to "cure" human homosexuality, or may offer the prospect that "pregnant women could one day be offered a [hormone] treatment to reduce or eliminate the chance that their offspring will be homosexual".

/homosexuality

TimeZonesAway
i feel that a person can grow up and as they develop they realize that they are not interested in the opposite sex

but i feel that someone can have an interest in the same gender at a very young age [[as young as they can get until they don't know what genders are]] but i don't think at that time you can consider them a homosexual because usually at such young ages kids don't know exactly what a homosexual is anyway.

but i also feel that a person can be straight or confused or whatever.
and a person can be with people of the opposite gender
but yet still eventually turn out being a homosexual.
it's all about experience and if they actually feel something there or not.

i don't consider homosexuality really a choice, it's more of an instinct.
i can't really imagine a girl waking up and being like "i'm kinda bored, i'm going go like girls now".
i consider that a choice.
i don't think homosexuals do that
i feel it's something they learn to realize and then one day they may be like "wow, i think i'm a homosexual" based on previous experiences.

it's simply a preference and a way of life.

i feel i have said enough.
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