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I've never seen it, and if it has been mentioned it's kinda old, so this post is fine.
I'm not quite sure when homosexuality is deterimed. I know the government lists it as a mental disorder, and the churches sure as hell don't think it's normal, but I don't think it makes someone sick, or weird, or anything like that. I think it's a personal choice, and for those institutions that aren't very accepting of gays, just don't go around letting people know, easy as that. They generally go w/ the don't ask don't tell thing anyhow.
I'm not quite sure when homosexuality is deterimed. I know the government lists it as a mental disorder, and the churches sure as hell don't think it's normal, but I don't think it makes someone sick, or weird, or anything like that. I think it's a personal choice, and for those institutions that aren't very accepting of gays, just don't go around letting people know, easy as that. They generally go w/ the don't ask don't tell thing anyhow.
I'm not quite sure, actually. I don't know if it's a personal choice, seeing as though most people can't help what they're attracted. But I don't think it's determined by birth in the fact that someone'sDestined! for homosexuality.
What's most likely is that liking someone of the same gender is completely natural for them, and for some reason others of a different orientation think they're diabolical or something. Kind of absurd if you ask me.
What's most likely is that liking someone of the same gender is completely natural for them, and for some reason others of a different orientation think they're diabolical or something. Kind of absurd if you ask me.
I think that it's a mental retardation. I pity homosexuals because they cannot reproduce. Well, they can reproduce, but I mean. They can't enjoy tits or vaginas the same way straight people can. It's just unfortunate. How can someone choose such a horrible fate. They must be born with it. It's the only way. I take gays into my arms like sick children and say, "It's ok, I love you. The world just doesn't understand."
I kiss their foreheads, and hold them close. They are the the children I never had. They are the forgotten ones. The ones who were cast aside for the way they were born. The ones that need the most love. The ones who will lead a life of persecution. In some ways they are more like Christ (the persecution part) than any of us.
I kiss their foreheads, and hold them close. They are the the children I never had. They are the forgotten ones. The ones who were cast aside for the way they were born. The ones that need the most love. The ones who will lead a life of persecution. In some ways they are more like Christ (the persecution part) than any of us.
i dont find homosexuality to be a choice nor do i believe it is determined at birth, i do however find it to be a learned behavior.
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 27 2007, 09:39 AM) 
I think that it's a mental retardation. I pity homosexuals because they cannot reproduce. Well, they can reproduce, but I mean. They can't enjoy tits or vaginas the same way straight people can. It's just unfortunate. How can someone choose such a horrible fate. They must be born with it. It's the only way. I take gays into my arms like sick children and say, "It's ok, I love you. The world just doesn't understand."
I kiss their foreheads, and hold them close. They are the the children I never had. They are the forgotten ones. The ones who were cast aside for the way they were born. The ones that need the most love. The ones who will lead a life of persecution. In some ways they are more like Christ (the persecution part) than any of us.
I kiss their foreheads, and hold them close. They are the the children I never had. They are the forgotten ones. The ones who were cast aside for the way they were born. The ones that need the most love. The ones who will lead a life of persecution. In some ways they are more like Christ (the persecution part) than any of us.
that's...uhh...something.
It's determined by a great number of factors, hormones, genes, and environment. It's probably sensitive to initial development conditions and it's impossible to predict. Small irregularities pile up exponentially so it acts in a random way. Now, most of these perturbations don't result in homosexuality, but with some probability, it happens. That, that's chaos theory.
I dont believe in homosexuality. to me, they are just struggling through mental phrase reguardless of how they are okay or not okay with their orientation. I'm not closeminded. this is what i believe since homosexuality has been going on through many centuries.
And, i'm not against anyone who considered themselves homosexuals. honestly, i dont care about your orientation. whatever float my boats.
And, i'm not against anyone who considered themselves homosexuals. honestly, i dont care about your orientation. whatever float my boats.
^whatever floats their boat?
Guys, haven't you ever felt the slightest urge to shove a pole up your ass. I mean, I get that sensation all the time. I just don't tell anyone because I'm embarrassed. *blush*
You see, Gay people are super heroes. They are a group of people willing to admit to this. Not many people have the kind of balls that it takes to openly come out and say, "I'M A POLE SITTER!", or, "I FUCK MEN!" No, most people will turn their head in secret shame while mumbling, "We're just friends...", when in reality they want to be so much more than that.... lovers.... fuckers... sex... symbiotic masturbation.... fisting.... anus penetration.... H3's....
The truth is, if you're gay there is a homo-gland in your anus. if it's not there then you're probably just a sick bastard. It's called gland R574. You don't hear about this gland often. It was found by members of a Catholic Church campaign against homosexuality. They were out to prove that homosexuality wasn't caused by genes. What they found was shocking. The gland actually produced hormones that forced men to feel for other men. This is why the Catholic Church now requires you go through a cavity search before becoming a priest. They cannot afford another "touching of the little boys" incident.
Dan Brown (Author of the "Davinci Code") was going to include this in his book, but decided not to after repeated death threats from a Catholic Church clergy. So much for free speech.
You see, Gay people are super heroes. They are a group of people willing to admit to this. Not many people have the kind of balls that it takes to openly come out and say, "I'M A POLE SITTER!", or, "I FUCK MEN!" No, most people will turn their head in secret shame while mumbling, "We're just friends...", when in reality they want to be so much more than that.... lovers.... fuckers... sex... symbiotic masturbation.... fisting.... anus penetration.... H3's....
The truth is, if you're gay there is a homo-gland in your anus. if it's not there then you're probably just a sick bastard. It's called gland R574. You don't hear about this gland often. It was found by members of a Catholic Church campaign against homosexuality. They were out to prove that homosexuality wasn't caused by genes. What they found was shocking. The gland actually produced hormones that forced men to feel for other men. This is why the Catholic Church now requires you go through a cavity search before becoming a priest. They cannot afford another "touching of the little boys" incident.
Dan Brown (Author of the "Davinci Code") was going to include this in his book, but decided not to after repeated death threats from a Catholic Church clergy. So much for free speech.
rofl uronacid ur a funny guy.
It's nothing more than a sexual preference. It's the same with people who like to have sex with children. Some guys like skinny girls, some like 'em fat. Same difference. Nothing more.
QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Aug 29 2007, 01:32 PM)
It's nothing more than a sexual preference. It's the same with people who like to have sex with children. Some guys like skinny girls, some like 'em fat. Same difference. Nothing more.
I love them, I can't believe you would compare Homosexuals to Pedophiles. I'm going to have my army of young homosexuals rip out their G571's and squeeze the juice into a glass. We will force you to drink it. In it's raw form it is a very strong mind altering substance, Prostantious Extraction. Then you will see the light.
I don't know. but people here on cB thinks im gay =[ . i'm not gay, i think, or am i ;D
to everybody that thinks that gay men=anal sex...
wrong...
85% of homosexual men do NOT engage in anal sex. giving or receiving.
and not all of that 85% are actual givers of oral sex either, just receivers.
Homosexuality is not natural? Much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control are not natural.
Obviously gay parents will raise gay children because straight parents only raise straight children.
Children can never succeed without both male and female role models at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children.
off the subject, sorry.
there have been studies that have shown, not PROVEN, but shown that the stress and the hormones that a mother produces while pregnant can have a predetermined orientation on the child. too much testosterone for a female, too much estrogen for a male, etc.
i find it hard to believe that people can think it's a choice to be gay. like it's a choice to be outed by more than a good 75% of society. to worry and fear about if somebody is going to tie you up and beat you and leave you for death out in a field because of who you happen to be attracted to.
it's hard to believe that people can choose to be gay, and hated by their parents, their friends. where they choose to sometimes lead a double lifestyle because they're afraid of people finding out they're gay.
wrong...
85% of homosexual men do NOT engage in anal sex. giving or receiving.
and not all of that 85% are actual givers of oral sex either, just receivers.
Homosexuality is not natural? Much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control are not natural.
Obviously gay parents will raise gay children because straight parents only raise straight children.
Children can never succeed without both male and female role models at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children.
off the subject, sorry.
there have been studies that have shown, not PROVEN, but shown that the stress and the hormones that a mother produces while pregnant can have a predetermined orientation on the child. too much testosterone for a female, too much estrogen for a male, etc.
i find it hard to believe that people can think it's a choice to be gay. like it's a choice to be outed by more than a good 75% of society. to worry and fear about if somebody is going to tie you up and beat you and leave you for death out in a field because of who you happen to be attracted to.
it's hard to believe that people can choose to be gay, and hated by their parents, their friends. where they choose to sometimes lead a double lifestyle because they're afraid of people finding out they're gay.
QUOTE(cyb3r0ptik @ Aug 30 2007, 01:20 PM)
to everybody that thinks that gay men=anal sex...
wrong...
85% of homosexual men do NOT engage in anal sex. giving or receiving.
and not all of that 85% are actual givers of oral sex either, just receivers.
Homosexuality is not natural? Much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control are not natural.
Obviously gay parents will raise gay children because straight parents only raise straight children.
Children can never succeed without both male and female role models at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children.
off the subject, sorry.
there have been studies that have shown, not PROVEN, but shown that the stress and the hormones that a mother produces while pregnant can have a predetermined orientation on the child. too much testosterone for a female, too much estrogen for a male, etc.
i find it hard to believe that people can think it's a choice to be gay. like it's a choice to be outed by more than a good 75% of society. to worry and fear about if somebody is going to tie you up and beat you and leave you for death out in a field because of who you happen to be attracted to.
it's hard to believe that people can choose to be gay, and hated by their parents, their friends. where they choose to sometimes lead a double lifestyle because they're afraid of people finding out they're gay.
wrong...
85% of homosexual men do NOT engage in anal sex. giving or receiving.
and not all of that 85% are actual givers of oral sex either, just receivers.
Homosexuality is not natural? Much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control are not natural.
Obviously gay parents will raise gay children because straight parents only raise straight children.
Children can never succeed without both male and female role models at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children.
off the subject, sorry.
there have been studies that have shown, not PROVEN, but shown that the stress and the hormones that a mother produces while pregnant can have a predetermined orientation on the child. too much testosterone for a female, too much estrogen for a male, etc.
i find it hard to believe that people can think it's a choice to be gay. like it's a choice to be outed by more than a good 75% of society. to worry and fear about if somebody is going to tie you up and beat you and leave you for death out in a field because of who you happen to be attracted to.
it's hard to believe that people can choose to be gay, and hated by their parents, their friends. where they choose to sometimes lead a double lifestyle because they're afraid of people finding out they're gay.
Oh my goodness, if you say there are tests then show us the tests. If you don't have the proof then you're just another idiot quoting someone, who quoted someone else, who quoted someone else, who quoted someone else who may have made it up.
Why specifically at birth?
Most of us, "homo" or "hetero", do not realize our sexual attractions until later in life.
Most of us, "homo" or "hetero", do not realize our sexual attractions until later in life.
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 30 2007, 05:52 PM)
Oh my goodness, if you say there are tests then show us the tests. If you don't have the proof then you're just another idiot quoting someone, who quoted someone else, who quoted someone else, who quoted someone else who may have made it up.
well... first there's this... possible nsfw due to written words
not proof, but definitely the opinion of plenty of people
Clicky
click on *see results*
aaaaaaaaaand there's this possible NSFW due to written words
Clicky
As i mentioned in my first post on this subject, it's not PROOF, but there have been studies.
Now you've seen a poll on do all gay men have anal sex (more than half answered have said no)
and a study.
Doesn't mean the study is PROOF... just means it's been administered.
Like I previously stated. Twice now.
Thnx.
I think it's both. I think some people can be born with certain traits... but then again I think they can be influenced by their surroundings. So I guess some people are born gay, and some just choose to be.
Homosexuality to me is a choice and is also determined. I think there are people who chose to be gay just because the lifestyle suits them. Then again, I think there are those who've been attracted to the same sex all their lives ... well not literally but still.
I'm blabbing. Yeah.
I'm blabbing. Yeah.
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I think that it's a mental retardation. I pity homosexuals because they cannot reproduce. Well, they can reproduce, but I mean. They can't enjoy tits or vaginas the same way straight people can. It's just unfortunate. How can someone choose such a horrible fate. They must be born with it. It's the only way. I take gays into my arms like sick children and say, "It's ok, I love you. The world just doesn't understand."
I kiss their foreheads, and hold them close. They are the the children I never had. They are the forgotten ones. The ones who were cast aside for the way they were born. The ones that need the most love. The ones who will lead a life of persecution. In some ways they are more like Christ (the persecution part) than any of us.
I kiss their foreheads, and hold them close. They are the the children I never had. They are the forgotten ones. The ones who were cast aside for the way they were born. The ones that need the most love. The ones who will lead a life of persecution. In some ways they are more like Christ (the persecution part) than any of us.
You seriously have problems.
But that was funny...in a weird way.
I think its learn behavior of how you were raise when you grew up like how girls plays with barbies and how guys play with power rangers are whatever. Your parents shaped you the way you are. Or it can be in your genes, an experiment shown that a rats injected with testerone end up to be more hornier.
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 27 2007, 08:39 AM)
I think that it's a mental retardation. I pity homosexuals because they cannot reproduce. Well, they can reproduce, but I mean. They can't enjoy tits or vaginas the same way straight people can. It's just unfortunate. How can someone choose such a horrible fate. They must be born with it. It's the only way. I take gays into my arms like sick children and say, "It's ok, I love you. The world just doesn't understand."
I kiss their foreheads, and hold them close. They are the the children I never had. They are the forgotten ones. The ones who were cast aside for the way they were born. The ones that need the most love. The ones who will lead a life of persecution. In some ways they are more like Christ (the persecution part) than any of us.
I kiss their foreheads, and hold them close. They are the the children I never had. They are the forgotten ones. The ones who were cast aside for the way they were born. The ones that need the most love. The ones who will lead a life of persecution. In some ways they are more like Christ (the persecution part) than any of us.
Wow. I don't even know what to say about this post, ahah. It's just bizarre and wrong on so many levels.
its a choice.
a lifestyle
no one was born that way.
a lifestyle
no one was born that way.
If I were to post seriously:
I would have to say it's got something to do with the society you're brought up in. Society is becoming more and more accepting of homosexuals, and as society slowly begins to decide that homosexuality is "normal" (in quotes due to the fact that normal is relative to the individual) you will see more and more homosexuals sprout up.
There is was obviously a shortage of homosexuals 30 years ago compared to the number of homosexuals sprouting out of the woodwork today. One could make the argument "They never had a chance to sprout up because everyone was hating on them", but at the same time "If they didn't have a choice then why didn't you hear about them revolting against society the way they do today 30 years ago?"
Another thing, homosexuality is determined at birth then why aren't homosexuals a dieing breed? People have been on the earth for thousands of years... possibly millions (if you believe in evolution). Natural selection is a reality in both points of view. If homosexuality is a gene or birth anomaly (to refrain from saying defect) then why is homosexuality increasing in popularity instead of decreasing in popularity.
As a homosexual, you're obviously not reproducing. It doesn't make any sense. Think about it, an entire tier of humanity that doesn't reproduce is increasing in size? Get f**king real, that goes against the laws of nature. This lifestyle would have disappeared ages ago if homosexuality was determined at birth.
I would have to say it's got something to do with the society you're brought up in. Society is becoming more and more accepting of homosexuals, and as society slowly begins to decide that homosexuality is "normal" (in quotes due to the fact that normal is relative to the individual) you will see more and more homosexuals sprout up.
There is was obviously a shortage of homosexuals 30 years ago compared to the number of homosexuals sprouting out of the woodwork today. One could make the argument "They never had a chance to sprout up because everyone was hating on them", but at the same time "If they didn't have a choice then why didn't you hear about them revolting against society the way they do today 30 years ago?"
Another thing, homosexuality is determined at birth then why aren't homosexuals a dieing breed? People have been on the earth for thousands of years... possibly millions (if you believe in evolution). Natural selection is a reality in both points of view. If homosexuality is a gene or birth anomaly (to refrain from saying defect) then why is homosexuality increasing in popularity instead of decreasing in popularity.
As a homosexual, you're obviously not reproducing. It doesn't make any sense. Think about it, an entire tier of humanity that doesn't reproduce is increasing in size? Get f**king real, that goes against the laws of nature. This lifestyle would have disappeared ages ago if homosexuality was determined at birth.
^
who cares. we'll use nano tech to use a homo sperms and female eggs.
kiddin.
you do make a point about future humanity.
who cares. we'll use nano tech to use a homo sperms and female eggs.
kiddin.
you do make a point about future humanity.
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 4 2007, 01:07 PM)
As a homosexual, you're obviously not reproducing. It doesn't make any sense. Think about it, an entire tier of humanity that doesn't reproduce is increasing in size? Get f**king real, that goes against the laws of nature. This lifestyle would have disappeared ages ago if homosexuality was determined at birth.
But how is that any different from being born with any other defect? The number of homosexuals is increasing, just like our total population is. I really dont get your point.
^ I didn't get that either. Josh, please elaborate.
Josh, please elaborate.
Ok, just think, for thousands of years people have had this "gene". These people with the gay gene inside them would slowly disappear. Less of their kids would have kids, less of their kids would have kids, and so on and do forth. Eventually the gene would become so watered down that it would only pop up in some rare cases or cease to exist, because GENES HAVE TO BE PASSED ON.
If this gay gene causes you to be attracted to people of the same sex, you're obviously going to be far less likely to reproduce. Gay people can't have biological kids with each other and tis' emotionally upsetting to see your partner make love to someone else, that's why they adopt. If Gay people aren't passing their genes on, eventually that gay gene will simply become a rare case or cease to exist because it can't be passed on due to the fact that you can't preform gay sex to have children.
This gay thing is far to rampant to be considered a birth defect or a gene. It's growing. More and more people are accepting homosexuality every single day. Society is becoming more accepting of the homosexual lifestyle, and the homosexual population is growing... see the connection. It's the setting you grow up in, the people who raise you, the children in school, the teachers you have, the media, etc... whatever it is, the more accepting society becomes of homosexuality, the more homosexuals are popping up and out of the wood work.
It's like the world is smacking you people in the face with a big giant sign that says:
YOU FCKING IDIOTS, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN THAT WHEN SOCIETY ACCEPTS A CERTAIN TYPE OF BEHAVIOR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MIMIC THAT BEHAVIOR! PEOPLE WANT TO BE ACCEPTED!
And you aren't reading it...
If this gay gene causes you to be attracted to people of the same sex, you're obviously going to be far less likely to reproduce. Gay people can't have biological kids with each other and tis' emotionally upsetting to see your partner make love to someone else, that's why they adopt. If Gay people aren't passing their genes on, eventually that gay gene will simply become a rare case or cease to exist because it can't be passed on due to the fact that you can't preform gay sex to have children.
This gay thing is far to rampant to be considered a birth defect or a gene. It's growing. More and more people are accepting homosexuality every single day. Society is becoming more accepting of the homosexual lifestyle, and the homosexual population is growing... see the connection. It's the setting you grow up in, the people who raise you, the children in school, the teachers you have, the media, etc... whatever it is, the more accepting society becomes of homosexuality, the more homosexuals are popping up and out of the wood work.
It's like the world is smacking you people in the face with a big giant sign that says:
YOU FCKING IDIOTS, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN THAT WHEN SOCIETY ACCEPTS A CERTAIN TYPE OF BEHAVIOR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MIMIC THAT BEHAVIOR! PEOPLE WANT TO BE ACCEPTED!
And you aren't reading it...
^That and the whole thing where until recently people hated gays, and in many times and places, gays were treated like shit, and even killed. That would kinda kill the chances of a gay gene spreading too.
QUOTE(Steven @ Sep 5 2007, 10:04 AM)
^That and the whole thing where until recently people hated gays, and in many times and places, gays were treated like shit, and even killed. That would kinda kill the chances of a gay gene spreading too.
OMG FOR REAL!
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 5 2007, 09:18 AM)
Ok, just think, for thousands of years people have had this "gene". These people with the gay gene inside them would slowly disappear. Less of their kids would have kids, less of their kids would have kids, and so on and do forth. Eventually the gene would become so watered down that it would only pop up in some rare cases or cease to exist, because GENES HAVE TO BE PASSED ON.
If this gay gene causes you to be attracted to people of the same sex, you're obviously going to be far less likely to reproduce. Gay people can't have biological kids with each other and tis' emotionally upsetting to see your partner make love to someone else, that's why they adopt. If Gay people aren't passing their genes on, eventually that gay gene will simply become a rare case or cease to exist because it can't be passed on due to the fact that you can't preform gay sex to have children.
This gay thing is far to rampant to be considered a birth defect or a gene. It's growing. More and more people are accepting homosexuality every single day. Society is becoming more accepting of the homosexual lifestyle, and the homosexual population is growing... see the connection. It's the setting you grow up in, the people who raise you, the children in school, the teachers you have, the media, etc... whatever it is, the more accepting society becomes of homosexuality, the more homosexuals are popping up and out of the wood work.
It's like the world is smacking you people in the face with a big giant sign that says:
YOU FCKING IDIOTS, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN THAT WHEN SOCIETY ACCEPTS A CERTAIN TYPE OF BEHAVIOR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MIMIC THAT BEHAVIOR! PEOPLE WANT TO BE ACCEPTED!
And you aren't reading it...
If this gay gene causes you to be attracted to people of the same sex, you're obviously going to be far less likely to reproduce. Gay people can't have biological kids with each other and tis' emotionally upsetting to see your partner make love to someone else, that's why they adopt. If Gay people aren't passing their genes on, eventually that gay gene will simply become a rare case or cease to exist because it can't be passed on due to the fact that you can't preform gay sex to have children.
This gay thing is far to rampant to be considered a birth defect or a gene. It's growing. More and more people are accepting homosexuality every single day. Society is becoming more accepting of the homosexual lifestyle, and the homosexual population is growing... see the connection. It's the setting you grow up in, the people who raise you, the children in school, the teachers you have, the media, etc... whatever it is, the more accepting society becomes of homosexuality, the more homosexuals are popping up and out of the wood work.
It's like the world is smacking you people in the face with a big giant sign that says:
YOU FCKING IDIOTS, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN THAT WHEN SOCIETY ACCEPTS A CERTAIN TYPE OF BEHAVIOR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MIMIC THAT BEHAVIOR! PEOPLE WANT TO BE ACCEPTED!
And you aren't reading it...
Omfg, are you retarded?
Who says its a gene that's passed on? I think its more of a mutation, or something that goes wrong. It's no different than being mentally retarded, or having any other kind of mental problem. And who says the percentage of gays in the population is rising? They're just more accepted now. 50 years ago alot of people would hide their homosexuality, and get married. They'd *try* to live straight, just because being gay wasnt acceptable.
So gays are mutants and have a problem? Not just a different preference? Nurture > Nature sometimes.
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 5 2007, 08:18 AM)
Ok, just think, for thousands of years people have had this "gene". These people with the gay gene inside them would slowly disappear. Less of their kids would have kids, less of their kids would have kids, and so on and do forth. Eventually the gene would become so watered down that it would only pop up in some rare cases or cease to exist, because GENES HAVE TO BE PASSED ON.
If this gay gene causes you to be attracted to people of the same sex, you're obviously going to be far less likely to reproduce. Gay people can't have biological kids with each other and tis' emotionally upsetting to see your partner make love to someone else, that's why they adopt. If Gay people aren't passing their genes on, eventually that gay gene will simply become a rare case or cease to exist because it can't be passed on due to the fact that you can't preform gay sex to have children.
This gay thing is far to rampant to be considered a birth defect or a gene. It's growing. More and more people are accepting homosexuality every single day. Society is becoming more accepting of the homosexual lifestyle, and the homosexual population is growing... see the connection. It's the setting you grow up in, the people who raise you, the children in school, the teachers you have, the media, etc... whatever it is, the more accepting society becomes of homosexuality, the more homosexuals are popping up and out of the wood work.
It's like the world is smacking you people in the face with a big giant sign that says:
YOU FCKING IDIOTS, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN THAT WHEN SOCIETY ACCEPTS A CERTAIN TYPE OF BEHAVIOR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MIMIC THAT BEHAVIOR! PEOPLE WANT TO BE ACCEPTED!
And you aren't reading it...
If this gay gene causes you to be attracted to people of the same sex, you're obviously going to be far less likely to reproduce. Gay people can't have biological kids with each other and tis' emotionally upsetting to see your partner make love to someone else, that's why they adopt. If Gay people aren't passing their genes on, eventually that gay gene will simply become a rare case or cease to exist because it can't be passed on due to the fact that you can't preform gay sex to have children.
This gay thing is far to rampant to be considered a birth defect or a gene. It's growing. More and more people are accepting homosexuality every single day. Society is becoming more accepting of the homosexual lifestyle, and the homosexual population is growing... see the connection. It's the setting you grow up in, the people who raise you, the children in school, the teachers you have, the media, etc... whatever it is, the more accepting society becomes of homosexuality, the more homosexuals are popping up and out of the wood work.
It's like the world is smacking you people in the face with a big giant sign that says:
YOU FCKING IDIOTS, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN THAT WHEN SOCIETY ACCEPTS A CERTAIN TYPE OF BEHAVIOR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MIMIC THAT BEHAVIOR! PEOPLE WANT TO BE ACCEPTED!
And you aren't reading it...
Oh, you mean kind of like on cB, how being a troll is super cool and admirable?
I completely understand, then.
I agree with one person on a point they said "Enviorment might influence it too."
My parents think gays should be shot n everything, yet I, after being around a bunch of bi's, gays, and 'bi-curious' people, have leaned AWAY from the fact homosexuality is wrong, and have come to accept it. Now, whether I'M bi is yet to be decided, but each day it's getting more and more etched into my mind that being bi, gay, lesbian, etc. is fine.
Sure, we need straight people or we'll die out, but love comes in all shapes and forms and so do people. Environment, teachings, PERHAPS genes, personal choice... It's a mixture of things IMO.
My parents think gays should be shot n everything, yet I, after being around a bunch of bi's, gays, and 'bi-curious' people, have leaned AWAY from the fact homosexuality is wrong, and have come to accept it. Now, whether I'M bi is yet to be decided, but each day it's getting more and more etched into my mind that being bi, gay, lesbian, etc. is fine.
Sure, we need straight people or we'll die out, but love comes in all shapes and forms and so do people. Environment, teachings, PERHAPS genes, personal choice... It's a mixture of things IMO.
QUOTE(Michelle @ Sep 5 2007, 08:44 PM)
Oh, you mean kind of like on cB, how being a troll is super cool and admirable?
I completely understand, then.
I completely understand, then.
Michelle, I'm going to have to ask you to stick to the subject. Either that you're you need to go sit in the time out chair. Maybe put your head down on your desk. Yeah, sit in "time out" and put your head down. If your feedback was constructive then you would have said something to this effect:
Guys, Josh is a Troll. He's only trying to get you started. It's true. Sometimes he will even inflame you by stating falsified information. You see, just sits in his office chair while working from his cubicle and posts things just to get under your skin while he has nothing to do for his own entertainment. You see, the only trouble is that without people like him to provide drama on this site... createblog will become a boring place.
You're comments weren't appreciated. I think you should go hate yourself. I was rejected when I was nice to the community. I guess I just enjoy being mean. ;]
QUOTE(kimmytree @ Sep 5 2007, 03:22 PM)
Omfg, are you retarded?
Who says its a gene that's passed on? I think its more of a mutation, or something that goes wrong. It's no different than being mentally retarded, or having any other kind of mental problem. And who says the percentage of gays in the population is rising? They're just more accepted now. 50 years ago alot of people would hide their homosexuality, and get married. They'd *try* to live straight, just because being gay wasnt acceptable.
Who says its a gene that's passed on? I think its more of a mutation, or something that goes wrong. It's no different than being mentally retarded, or having any other kind of mental problem. And who says the percentage of gays in the population is rising? They're just more accepted now. 50 years ago alot of people would hide their homosexuality, and get married. They'd *try* to live straight, just because being gay wasnt acceptable.
you're a f**king idiot.
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 6 2007, 09:08 AM)
Michelle, I'm going to have to ask you to stick to the subject. Either that you're you need to go sit in the time out chair. Maybe put your head down on your desk. Yeah, sit in "time out" and put your head down. If your feedback was constructive then you would have said something to this effect:
Guys, Josh is a Troll. He's only trying to get you started. It's true. Sometimes he will even inflame you by stating falsified information. You see, just sits in his office chair while working from his cubicle and posts things just to get under your skin while he has nothing to do for his own entertainment. You see, the only trouble is that without people like him to provide drama on this site... createblog will become a boring place.
You're comments weren't appreciated. I think you should go hate yourself. I was rejected when I was nice to the community. I guess I just enjoy being mean. ;]
Guys, Josh is a Troll. He's only trying to get you started. It's true. Sometimes he will even inflame you by stating falsified information. You see, just sits in his office chair while working from his cubicle and posts things just to get under your skin while he has nothing to do for his own entertainment. You see, the only trouble is that without people like him to provide drama on this site... createblog will become a boring place.
You're comments weren't appreciated. I think you should go hate yourself. I was rejected when I was nice to the community. I guess I just enjoy being mean. ;]
Oh, boo hoo. People were completely bitches and dicks to me when I first joined cB. Why don't we all cry about the e-abuse we received and slit our wrists D':
The only person that gets under my skin is Steven. :]
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I don't believe it's a choice at all.
People can't help who they are attracted to. It's like me (assuming you're straight) coming up to you and telling you to choose to like the same gender.
Oh, sure, I'm sure homosexual people could go out with people of the opposite gender if they wanted to hide their sexuality, but they wouldn't enjoy it, as I said above, it'd be just like a straight person going out with another man or woman.
Also, if homosexuality was a choice, why would people choose it? I have nothing against gays, but if I had a choice whether to be gay or straight, I'd choose being straight, as would most people, I think.
So obviously homosexuality cannot be a choice, because there are so many gay people in our community.
Also, I hear all the time about people who are extremely depressed when they discover they're gay.
Note the key word. Discover. They're not depressed when they CHOOSE to be gay, they're depressed when they discover they ARE gay.
Also, if it is a choice, why would these depressed people choose it? And if they were just curious, why, after realising that homosexuality is not for them, wouldn't they just change back into a heterosexual?
I think it could be both. Some guys that are now gay as well as women, experimented at one point in time and slowly fell into that lifestyle. Some homosexuals, on the otherhand, might be actually wired different when it comes to hormones. There are also some gay men that grew up without a father figure and are looking for love from a man. There are tons of different scenarios. Even though personally i dont agree with the lifestyle, I know not to judge them.
QUOTE(Michelle @ Sep 6 2007, 05:17 PM)
Oh, boo hoo. People were completely bitches and dicks to me when I first joined cB. Why don't we all cry about the e-abuse we received and slit our wrists D':
The only person that gets under my skin is Steven. :]
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The only person that gets under my skin is Steven. :]
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Haha!! LMAO
QUOTE(Michelle @ Sep 6 2007, 05:17 PM)
Oh, boo hoo. People were completely bitches and dicks to me when I first joined cB. Why don't we all cry about the e-abuse we received and slit our wrists D':
The only person that gets under my skin is Steven. :]
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The only person that gets under my skin is Steven. :]
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So how far have you two gone?
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 5 2007, 09:18 AM)
Ok, just think, for thousands of years people have had this "gene". These people with the gay gene inside them would slowly disappear. Less of their kids would have kids, less of their kids would have kids, and so on and do forth. Eventually the gene would become so watered down that it would only pop up in some rare cases or cease to exist, because GENES HAVE TO BE PASSED ON.
If this gay gene causes you to be attracted to people of the same sex, you're obviously going to be far less likely to reproduce. Gay people can't have biological kids with each other and tis' emotionally upsetting to see your partner make love to someone else, that's why they adopt. If Gay people aren't passing their genes on, eventually that gay gene will simply become a rare case or cease to exist because it can't be passed on due to the fact that you can't preform gay sex to have children.
This gay thing is far to rampant to be considered a birth defect or a gene. It's growing. More and more people are accepting homosexuality every single day. Society is becoming more accepting of the homosexual lifestyle, and the homosexual population is growing... see the connection. It's the setting you grow up in, the people who raise you, the children in school, the teachers you have, the media, etc... whatever it is, the more accepting society becomes of homosexuality, the more homosexuals are popping up and out of the wood work.
It's like the world is smacking you people in the face with a big giant sign that says:
YOU FCKING IDIOTS, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN THAT WHEN SOCIETY ACCEPTS A CERTAIN TYPE OF BEHAVIOR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MIMIC THAT BEHAVIOR! PEOPLE WANT TO BE ACCEPTED!
And you aren't reading it...
If this gay gene causes you to be attracted to people of the same sex, you're obviously going to be far less likely to reproduce. Gay people can't have biological kids with each other and tis' emotionally upsetting to see your partner make love to someone else, that's why they adopt. If Gay people aren't passing their genes on, eventually that gay gene will simply become a rare case or cease to exist because it can't be passed on due to the fact that you can't preform gay sex to have children.
This gay thing is far to rampant to be considered a birth defect or a gene. It's growing. More and more people are accepting homosexuality every single day. Society is becoming more accepting of the homosexual lifestyle, and the homosexual population is growing... see the connection. It's the setting you grow up in, the people who raise you, the children in school, the teachers you have, the media, etc... whatever it is, the more accepting society becomes of homosexuality, the more homosexuals are popping up and out of the wood work.
It's like the world is smacking you people in the face with a big giant sign that says:
YOU FCKING IDIOTS, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN THAT WHEN SOCIETY ACCEPTS A CERTAIN TYPE OF BEHAVIOR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MIMIC THAT BEHAVIOR! PEOPLE WANT TO BE ACCEPTED!
And you aren't reading it...
Yes, people watch TV and see that society is becoming more accepting of homosexuality and go, "Maybe, I'll be homosexual now cause it's easy or because it's the newest fad." Homosexuality is still the minority, it's still the outcast of society. People still discriminate against them.
All of us have genes that aren't necessarily ON. For example, we all have genes that help us with communication and human language. In some people, the gene somehow, inexplicably, turn off. So all of us may have a gene that determines sexual preferences and whether it's ON or OFF can change the orientation.
And so what if more people are coming out? Before they had to hide it from prejudical assholes like you. But now, they feel like they can be themselves.
Unless you're getting it up the butt from one of them, stop spewing your homophobic and racist rants.
QUOTE(Podomaht @ Sep 6 2007, 08:56 PM)
So how far have you two gone?
Podo, that is personal information that, only if Steven AND I both willingly agree to share, I will discuss with you via PM.
Thanks!
I would say determined at birth.
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 5 2007, 08:18 AM)
Ok, just think, for thousands of years people have had this "gene". These people with the gay gene inside them would slowly disappear. Less of their kids would have kids, less of their kids would have kids, and so on and do forth. Eventually the gene would become so watered down that it would only pop up in some rare cases or cease to exist, because GENES HAVE TO BE PASSED ON.
If this gay gene causes you to be attracted to people of the same sex, you're obviously going to be far less likely to reproduce. Gay people can't have biological kids with each other and tis' emotionally upsetting to see your partner make love to someone else, that's why they adopt. If Gay people aren't passing their genes on, eventually that gay gene will simply become a rare case or cease to exist because it can't be passed on due to the fact that you can't preform gay sex to have children.
This gay thing is far to rampant to be considered a birth defect or a gene. It's growing. More and more people are accepting homosexuality every single day. Society is becoming more accepting of the homosexual lifestyle, and the homosexual population is growing... see the connection. It's the setting you grow up in, the people who raise you, the children in school, the teachers you have, the media, etc... whatever it is, the more accepting society becomes of homosexuality, the more homosexuals are popping up and out of the wood work.
It's like the world is smacking you people in the face with a big giant sign that says:
YOU FCKING IDIOTS, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN THAT WHEN SOCIETY ACCEPTS A CERTAIN TYPE OF BEHAVIOR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MIMIC THAT BEHAVIOR! PEOPLE WANT TO BE ACCEPTED!
And you aren't reading it...
If this gay gene causes you to be attracted to people of the same sex, you're obviously going to be far less likely to reproduce. Gay people can't have biological kids with each other and tis' emotionally upsetting to see your partner make love to someone else, that's why they adopt. If Gay people aren't passing their genes on, eventually that gay gene will simply become a rare case or cease to exist because it can't be passed on due to the fact that you can't preform gay sex to have children.
This gay thing is far to rampant to be considered a birth defect or a gene. It's growing. More and more people are accepting homosexuality every single day. Society is becoming more accepting of the homosexual lifestyle, and the homosexual population is growing... see the connection. It's the setting you grow up in, the people who raise you, the children in school, the teachers you have, the media, etc... whatever it is, the more accepting society becomes of homosexuality, the more homosexuals are popping up and out of the wood work.
It's like the world is smacking you people in the face with a big giant sign that says:
YOU FCKING IDIOTS, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN THAT WHEN SOCIETY ACCEPTS A CERTAIN TYPE OF BEHAVIOR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MIMIC THAT BEHAVIOR! PEOPLE WANT TO BE ACCEPTED!
And you aren't reading it...
Wow, you don't know f**k about genetics.
Moron.
Secondly, your interpretation of data sucks.
QUOTE(NoSex @ Sep 7 2007, 02:24 AM)
Wow, you don't know f**k about genetics.
Moron.
Secondly, your interpretation of data sucks.
Moron.
Secondly, your interpretation of data sucks.
Wow, stop talking out your ass. You just shot out two statements with nothing to back them up but your integrity (which is quite low at the moment).
Also, why do you like the Blare Witch Project? It only lowers your integrity even more. People will disregard your opinions because they see how much of a slut you are for that heap of trash that morons like to call a movie. Aside from being a movie with horrible lighting, effects, sound, and story line. A couple of meddling kids running through a forest on a cold winters night with a crazy woman that kills people and hangs stick men from trees... LAME.
The Blare Witch Project was a garbage movie that did nothing accept make way for, what very well may be, the worst sequel in history. The only movie placed in theaters that was on par with "Son of the Mask" and "Cat Woman", "The Blare Witch Project 2". I personally enjoyed "The Bare Wench Project" much more than The Blare Witch.
I think you should should fire up your VCR and watch Gladiator until your head explodes. The awe created from the awesomeness of that movie will resonate your tiny skull until it appears to spontaneously combust (It will only appear to spontaneously combust because others won't know that it wasn't spontaneous). This movie is so much better than a grade -Z movie with a plot about as exciting as a frozen jimmy dean.
You would really like that show Ghost Hunters. The plot is very similar, the camera is just as shitty, there are just as many ghosts, but the sound is better and the subjects are plumbers. These hilarious plumbers will dazzle you with catchphrases like, "Dude, Run!", or, "When in doubt, Get out!", as they go from plunging toilets by day to hunting ghosts in state penitentiaries by night. It's like a healthy mix between The Super Mario Brothers, Ghost Busters, and (ugh... sucks) The Blare Witch Project.
Suck a Fuck Nate. ;]
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 7 2007, 09:04 AM)
Wow, stop talking out your ass. You just shot out two statements with nothing to back them up but your integrity (which is quite low at the moment).
Also, why do you like the Blare Witch Project? It only lowers your integrity even more. People will disregard your opinions because they see how much of a slut you are for that heap of trash that morons like to call a movie. Aside from being a movie with horrible lighting, effects, sound, and story line. A couple of meddling kids running through a forest on a cold winters night with a crazy woman that kills people and hangs stick men from trees... LAME.
The Blare Witch Project was a garbage movie that did nothing accept make way for, what very well may be, the worst sequel in history. The only movie placed in theaters that was on par with "Son of the Mask" and "Cat Woman", "The Blare Witch Project 2". I personally enjoyed "The Bare Wench Project" much more than The Blare Witch.
I think you should should fire up your VCR and watch Gladiator until your head explodes. The awe created from the awesomeness of that movie will resonate your tiny skull until it appears to spontaneously combust (It will only appear to spontaneously combust because others won't know that it wasn't spontaneous). This movie is so much better than a grade -Z movie with a plot about as exciting as a frozen jimmy dean.
You would really like that show Ghost Hunters. The plot is very similar, the camera is just as shitty, there are just as many ghosts, but the sound is better and the subjects are plumbers. These hilarious plumbers will dazzle you with catchphrases like, "Dude, Run!", or, "When in doubt, Get out!", as they go from plunging toilets by day to hunting ghosts in state penitentiaries by night. It's like a healthy mix between The Super Mario Brothers, Ghost Busters, and (ugh... sucks) The Blare Witch Project.
Suck a Fuck Nate. ;]
Also, why do you like the Blare Witch Project? It only lowers your integrity even more. People will disregard your opinions because they see how much of a slut you are for that heap of trash that morons like to call a movie. Aside from being a movie with horrible lighting, effects, sound, and story line. A couple of meddling kids running through a forest on a cold winters night with a crazy woman that kills people and hangs stick men from trees... LAME.
The Blare Witch Project was a garbage movie that did nothing accept make way for, what very well may be, the worst sequel in history. The only movie placed in theaters that was on par with "Son of the Mask" and "Cat Woman", "The Blare Witch Project 2". I personally enjoyed "The Bare Wench Project" much more than The Blare Witch.
I think you should should fire up your VCR and watch Gladiator until your head explodes. The awe created from the awesomeness of that movie will resonate your tiny skull until it appears to spontaneously combust (It will only appear to spontaneously combust because others won't know that it wasn't spontaneous). This movie is so much better than a grade -Z movie with a plot about as exciting as a frozen jimmy dean.
You would really like that show Ghost Hunters. The plot is very similar, the camera is just as shitty, there are just as many ghosts, but the sound is better and the subjects are plumbers. These hilarious plumbers will dazzle you with catchphrases like, "Dude, Run!", or, "When in doubt, Get out!", as they go from plunging toilets by day to hunting ghosts in state penitentiaries by night. It's like a healthy mix between The Super Mario Brothers, Ghost Busters, and (ugh... sucks) The Blare Witch Project.
Suck a Fuck Nate. ;]
You like Gladiator.
QUOTE(NoSex @ Sep 9 2007, 04:05 AM)
You like Gladiator.
And you like the Bare Wench Project.
I don't understand why everyone is still talking about this. You're all a bunch of kids. Do you think a topic on cB is going to determine whether f*gs are determined from birth or choice. Are you scientists? No. Not even close.
Leave it up to them. They're working on it. So, just shut your damn mouths and sit back and not worry about it.
Leave it up to them. They're working on it. So, just shut your damn mouths and sit back and not worry about it.
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