Retrogressive
Jun 16 2004, 05:04 PM
what's your opinion on this generation using a lot of anti depressants? more than any other generation? could it be similiar to taking riddilin? sometmes it seems like our answers are always medicine nowdays... do you think anti-depressants are wrong or/and unhealthy? i read an article about how they can actually hurt people even more.
Spirited Away
Jun 16 2004, 05:10 PM
Some of people who take it, don't really need it... they should just take placebo pills.
People in the past have been depressed, and they didn't have any medicine to make them remotely happier, they just depended on their will...
But if these pills can help save lives, as in prevent suicides or psychological problems for people, then I guess they're okay...
JlIaTMK
Jun 16 2004, 08:51 PM
i agree with uninspired fae as long as it could save lives its good
aGAinSHexscrEmS
Jul 15 2004, 12:40 PM
i was diagnosed with severe deppression and am now on anti-deppressants for it. i can see how they can be unsafe because if you are still deppressed but you have more energy (which they often give you, as stimulants), then you may be more likely to injure or kill yourself. however, they have really helped me so far and i think without them i would have killed myself... i think it really depends on the person, though, because i, for example, have close parental supervision and i see someone regularly. i also (now) have no desire to kill myself, so i think i'm pretty safe on them. but depending on your situation and your outlook on life, i don't think that all people that "need" them should take them, because they very well could make someone's life worse, and possibly even bring it to an end. it is not, however, the medicine's blame, because in the end, it is ultimately the person's choice to commit suicide. so yeah. i think it just really depends. if people weren't so stupid then they would be a lot more safe, but i also no that being deppressed can fog everything up and it's really hard to make the best decision, especially when it concerns other people who you think don't even love you to begin with, although chances are they do (i'm saying that suicide is completely selfish, because it really is if you think about it). anyway, i could go on forever, but i won't, but i'll sum it up with responsibility; |i| |a|m| my anti-drug.
inlonelinessidie
Jul 15 2004, 02:09 PM
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 16 2004, 3:10 PM)
Some of people who take it, don't really need it... they should just take placebo pills.
People in the past have been depressed, and they didn't have any medicine to make them remotely happier, they just depended on their will...
But if these pills can help save lives, as in prevent suicides or psychological problems for people, then I guess they're okay...
She's got a point, but I have to disagree with the fact that they are ok. Most people still commit suicide with these pills so technically it isn't helping them. The side effects are terrible and I think that there should be better ways of helping them. I heard that Paxil . . . or Prozac was banned in the UK. So why isn't it banned here in the US? I think that there should be more studies on them.
Spirited Away
Jul 15 2004, 02:11 PM
QUOTE(inlonelinessidie @ Jul 15 2004, 2:09 PM)
She's got a point, but I have to disagree with the fact that they are ok. Most people still commit suicide with these pills so technically it isn't helping them. The side effects are terrible and I think that there should be better ways of helping them. I heard that Paxil . . . or Prozac was banned in the UK. So why isn't it banned here in the US? I think that there should be more studies on them.
Yea, I wonder why people still kill themselves while on anti-depressants...?
inlonelinessidie
Jul 15 2004, 02:45 PM
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 15 2004, 12:11 PM)
Yea, I wonder why people still kill themselves while on anti-depressants...?
Yeah, sad isn't it.
ryfitaDF
Jul 15 2004, 03:08 PM
anti-depressants are awful and i hate them. people are just being lazy now a days. if you're so sad about somthing do somthing about it! grades down? study! overweight? stop eating so much! girls/boys don't like you? stop caring!
i've been on anti-depressats and they changed me for the worse. i wasn't myself and it wasn't making any sense so i stopped taking them.
and if somone wants to kill themselves that bad they won't give anti-depressants a chance. if they wanna die so bad, pills won't help them. it's alot of attention cravers who go around saying "i want to die" so their parents hop them up on the prozac.
Retrogressive
Jul 15 2004, 03:52 PM
yea i was on anti depressents and they completey changed me. Its like wearing a mask its pretty terrible.
rnrn897
Jul 15 2004, 04:42 PM
OFCOURSE ITS UNHEALTHY.. wut kinda question is that?!
and if its unhealthy.. ofcourse its wrong..
there are better way to work depression out
black_cloud10
Jul 15 2004, 04:48 PM
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 15 2004, 1:11 PM)
Yea, I wonder why people still kill themselves while on anti-depressants...?
anti-depressants mess with the chemicals in ur brain. the scary thing is the way they give you the medz (or at least how i got mine) was pretty much a guess and check. they think you have depression so they give you one of the thousands of depression pills out there. zoloft made me superactive for 3 hours then i'd pass out, completly worn out, then i'd wake up depressed. wound up having some kinda breakdown and could have seriously hurt myself. i think there should be better tests on determining depression and better methods of prescribing pills. if you need them i can understand using them. but a lot of times its just a phase. severe depression free for 6months now and counting. ^_^ thats a big step if you've been where i've been.
inlonelinessidie
Jul 15 2004, 04:59 PM
QUOTE(black_cloud10 @ Jul 15 2004, 2:48 PM)
anti-depressants mess with the chemicals in ur brain. the scary thing is the way they give you the medz (or at least how i got mine) was pretty much a guess and check. they think you have depression so they give you one of the thousands of depression pills out there. zoloft made me superactive for 3 hours then i'd pass out, completly worn out, then i'd wake up depressed. wound up having some kinda breakdown and could have seriously hurt myself. i think there should be better tests on determining depression and better methods of prescribing pills. if you need them i can understand using them. but a lot of times its just a phase. severe depression free for 6months now and counting. ^_^ thats a big step if you've been where i've been.
Yeah, that's what happened with my bro. Stupid doctors.
aznraver396
Jul 16 2004, 11:40 AM
blah..my friend's taking anti depressants...
he seemed fine in person before too..until i heard about his suicidal attempts before i met him and everything..
but anyway, i read an article about them and it said that if you stop taking the anti depressants, you'd become even more depressed and you have a higher chance of killing yourself..i personally think it's an alteration of the person's personality and it shouldn't be right.
lemonlina
Jul 16 2004, 12:20 PM
I dunno, I heard that anit-depressants make you feel better for a while, but then it gets even worse. So then you take some more, but then you get worse. Then it just keeps on going until... yeah. >_<
imm
Jul 16 2004, 05:47 PM
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 16 2004, 5:10 PM)
But if these pills can help save lives, as in prevent suicides or psychological problems for people, then I guess they're okay...
My friend takes anti-depressants, and once I read the box and it said something like it might cause suicidal thoughts or something...
brooker0che
Jul 18 2004, 07:17 PM
im on an anti-depressent for a disorder i have. and seriously, i dont think i would be where i am now without it. it was ruining my life, and i had to do something. my opinion is, if it truely helps people ultimately, then why not?" as long as you know what your doing and really have a problem, its truely beneficial.
jarnifer
Jul 18 2004, 11:49 PM
Zoloft has been verified that it may cause suicidal thoughts if people under the age of 18 uses it...there has been incidents where people commit suicide after using Zoloft...
black_cloud10
Jul 18 2004, 11:52 PM
QUOTE(jarnifer @ Jul 18 2004, 10:49 PM)
Zoloft has been verified that it may cause suicidal thoughts if people under the age of 18 uses it...there has been incidents where people commit suicide after using Zoloft...
sheesh i wish someone had figured out before the doc put me on it!! i could have killed myself
onenonly101
Jul 19 2004, 02:39 PM
I am against anti depressent drugs.
Using drugs to cure a psycological problem is wrong. It teaches you to become dependant on a drug to make you feel better. You are not really healing because you depend on the drug to take the pain and depression a way. First you have to figure out what the problem is and be strong enough and serious enough to work through it without any false sense of hope. That is what come with anti depressans, a false since of hope. The person is not really healed because they don't even know what the problem is and how to fix for real. Also what happens when the person becomes dependant and addicted to the drud? Do you give them another pill to get them off the drug? What happens when it is not stong enough the "cure" the persons problem?
JustHere4NoReason
Jul 19 2004, 02:55 PM
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 19 2004, 1:39 PM)
I am against anti depressent drugs.
Using drugs to cure a psycological problem is wrong. It teaches you to become dependant on a drug to make you feel better. You are not really healing because you depend on the drug to take the pain and depression a way. First you have to figure out what the problem is and be strong enough and serious enough to work through it without any false sense of hope. That is what come with anti depressans, a false since of hope. The person is not really healed because they don't even know what the problem is and how to fix for real. Also what happens when the person becomes dependant and addicted to the drud? Do you give them another pill to get them off the drug? What happens when it is not stong enough the "cure" the persons problem?
Depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain. Anti-depressants have been known to balance the chemical imbalance. Not everyone needs to take anti-depressants though.
I believe anti-depressants were 'invented' when a psychologist had some patients with depression to a hot spring that had contained this mineral (I can't remember... URGH!). The patients seemed to be normal.
I am for anti-drepessants... I plan on being a psychiatrist so this is a very interesting topic.
onenonly101
Jul 19 2004, 03:05 PM
I believe yes sometimes it is a chemical imbalance. But there is no chemical imbalance when someone becomes depressed because something tragic just happened in their life. It is more of a way of dealing. Also i believe that there are so many mis diagnoses with depression. But i still believe that it gives you a false sense of being okay. And it should be required(i'm not sure if it is) to be attending counseling while taking the drug.
JustHere4NoReason
Jul 20 2004, 12:35 PM
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 19 2004, 2:05 PM)
I believe yes sometimes it is a chemical imbalance. But there is no chemical imbalance when someone becomes depressed because something tragic just happened in their life. It is more of a way of dealing. Also i believe that there are so many mis diagnoses with depression. But i still believe that it gives you a false sense of being okay. And it should be required(i'm not sure if it is) to be attending counseling while taking the drug.
Many patients attend counseling during the period they take anti-depressants...
J.K
Jul 21 2004, 12:14 PM
happy pills...those are def. okay with me [[since i use them//prescribed, dont worry]] they prevented me from commiting suicidal and homocidal acts...dont ask. but they definitely help...
toria66622
Nov 15 2005, 03:00 PM
I think there iz 2 sides to this story too... most ppl still have problems after being on them but then again alot of ppl also dont know what to do with theirself if they are depressed but I still think ppl should just take them...srry if this dont make sense I am way tired today
krispy_kreme333
Nov 15 2005, 04:57 PM
I think it is okay as long as they are also in counseling while taking the medication. That is what they are going to do for me.
Heewee
Nov 18 2005, 04:42 PM
Some forms of depressions are caused by a chemical imbalance. In that case, I think that the person should definatley be able to take anti-depressants because this is the only thing that can correct that imbalance.
However, other types of depression are stimulated by negative experiences with relationships, lifestyles, family, friends, society, the environment, school, etc. I was diagnosed with severe depression last spring and have been on anti-depressants ever since. I also underwent an extensive counselling program that has helped to turn my life around. If I had not been a part of that program, I don't think that the anti-depressants would have been enough for me. I guess my whole take on this is that it should be mandatory for people on anti-depressants to be in a similar program or at least see a counselor regularly.
nothing_plus_this
Mar 11 2006, 10:22 PM
my entire family is taking anti-depressants of some sort. including me.
without them, my father would no longer be here. he'd either be in another state or in jail. they helped him along with becoming sober.
my mother has HORRIBLE anxiety and would not be able to function AT ALL without her's.
and i have both anxiety and mood disorders and a depressive personality (diagnosed, treated, etc. shutup). so, i would also not be able to function normally without something helping me along. they stabilize my moods (i still have moods, just not EXTREMES that lead to me hurting myself, blacking out, ending up in hospital, or doing god knows what else). and have lessened the effect simple stress has on me. before i began taking the medication, i was a heavy drug user (i self-medicated to deal with the depression, manic episodes, etc.) and i had horrific mood swings and anxiety attacks. taking the medication allowed me to put my life in perspective and get my priorities straight, along with myself. and i no longer lose it whenever i break a glass, get a dirty look, say something wrong, or forget to do something. before, i would have attacks that would render me useless for entire days.
so, yes. i think anti-depressants are beneficial. to an extent. with a family like mine where mental illness runs strong throughout the entire family, they help people live normal lives. but, there is a downside to taking them. the whole..dependency thing. it's difficult to cope with knowing that you can't function properly without popping a pill or a few everyday. it's a struggle all on it's own. but, you need to figure what is more important and what you would be risking/losing/setting yourself up for if you were to stop taking them.
and i don't care what anyone says, depression...TRUE depression that causes the most horrible physical and mental pain...cannot be cured by exercising or eating right or studying. if you are unable to get out of bed in the morning or think clearly without wanting to kill yourself, you are obviously unable to get off your ass and exercise or study.
EddieV
Mar 11 2006, 10:43 PM
My love uses them, when she does she gets sort of dizzy-ish and drugged.
nothing_plus_this
Mar 11 2006, 11:29 PM
what is she taking?
i know that when i first started to take mine, i got hyper. around the clock. and then i adjusted to it and started to feel normal. NORMAL normal. like a real person.
but, i'm on effexor. which is one of the most controversial medications on the market. the withdrawals are TERRIBLE. they have been compared to heroin and other drugs. that's another downside. the fact that your brain needs to readjust to being imbalanced once the help from the anti-depressants is taken away.
pinacoolada
Mar 14 2006, 05:56 PM
I personally don't agree with anti-depressants being administered on teenagers..mainly 13-14. I think it ruins everything. People all over the world are usually suffering...they didn't need anti-depressants to get over that. I'm pretty sure my mom didn't need it. She suffered much more than my friend..my friend ( 13 ) who relies on these..and she's completely wrecked without it..in other words, she's dependent on the medication.
Paradox of Life
Mar 14 2006, 06:14 PM
Anti-depressants help some people and hurt others. Every anti-depressant I've used has had either no effect or a worsening effect on me like drowsiness/fatigue, short temper, or even worsened depression. Anti-depressants have made me more violent and after I started taking a couple, I've developed an interest of self-mutilation, fire and sick, morbid things because they make a chemical imbalance in my brain. But that's just me. I am personally against anti-depressants because it hurts more than helps. Getting out of depression is something you do yourself.
Mulder
Mar 14 2006, 08:40 PM
i was almost prescribed anti-depressants.
for headaches.
yes, anti-depressants serve other purposes besides 'cures' for depression.
for a manic depressive (bipolar) person, anti-depressants are miracle drugs. they save them.
but for those that are not severely depressed, the drugs are too much for them to handle.
so, i guess id be fine with them if they were only prescribed to those cases severe enough. the only problem with that is that there is no way to pick out the 'deserving' from the rest.
AngelinaTaylor
Mar 15 2006, 10:14 PM
I'm definitely against that.. Especially because I'm sure most of those people don't even need to take the medications. And it's actually pretty exaggerated here in North America. In most other places people don't use them at all.. and they don't claim they're suffering from depression, even though they have a lot more believable reasons to be..
P.S. Of course, I'm not talking about everyone..
Cheers,
Taylor``
nothing_plus_this
Mar 15 2006, 11:21 PM
it is true that anti-depressants are overprescribed. we can blame the overzealous drug companies for that. they whore them out to everyone and anyone, and encourage doctor's to prescribe them the same way.
i've known girls who have been put on them simply because they're teenagers. it seems to me that people have forgotten that mood swings, anxiety, and sadness come with growing up. but somehow, shrinks are convinced by some of these girls that they are bipolar because they love their friends one day and hate them the next. so, basically, they have confused bipolar disorder with normal high school behaviour.
mental illness has become one of the most disturbing and disgusting trends to hit the population of teenagers. there are hundreds of them running around screaming depression and cutting themselves and throwing around textbook reasons and definitions for things. everyone is so into learning about disorders and transforming themselves to fit the diagnosis. because they see it as "tragic" and "dramatic".
that's one of the many reasons i'd like to slap anyone under 17.
voguelove
Mar 16 2006, 01:26 PM
we learned this in health.
the human brain has this..cell thingie..(gah, i hate when you know what youre going to say and then you forget) and thats what makes you happy. people who are depressed dont have enough of it so they need anti depressants.
i dont care about people who take them. they need it to be happy.
AngelinaTaylor
Mar 16 2006, 01:29 PM
QUOTE(nothing_plus_this @ Mar 15 2006, 11:21 PM)

it is true that anti-depressants are overprescribed. we can blame the overzealous drug companies for that. they whore them out to everyone and anyone, and encourage doctor's to prescribe them the same way.
i've known girls who have been put on them simply because they're teenagers. it seems to me that people have forgotten that mood swings, anxiety, and sadness come with growing up. but somehow, shrinks are convinced by some of these girls that they are bipolar because they love their friends one day and hate them the next. so, basically, they have confused bipolar disorder with normal high school behaviour.
mental illness has become one of the most disturbing and disgusting trends to hit the population of teenagers. there are hundreds of them running around screaming depression and cutting themselves and throwing around textbook reasons and definitions for things. everyone is so into learning about disorders and transforming themselves to fit the diagnosis. because they see it as "tragic" and "dramatic".
that's one of the many reasons i'd like to slap anyone under 17.
It's good to see someone with brains. I couldn't have said it any better.
Cheers,
Taylor``
nothing_plus_this
Mar 16 2006, 01:54 PM
yes. i have brains.
but i am also depressed/some other disorder i don't buy, and am on anti-depressants. but, i waited until it nearly destroyed my life to resort to it. which was a good 3 years, or until i turned 17 (although i had been periodically attempting suicide, hurting myself, and blacking out during mood swings since i was 9 or 10). i HAD to make sure it wasn't just hormones, high school, or a phase.
and, i attended counseling prior to agreeing to trying the medications. it was extremely rough for me to conclude that i wasn't just a normal teenage girl trying to find a reason and a diagnosis for my behaviour. but, it was also one of the best choices i've made in my entire life.
so yes, i have brains. but i'm also one of the few who are truly inflicted with mental illness.
juliar
Mar 16 2006, 02:19 PM
QUOTE(nothing_plus_this @ Mar 16 2006, 1:54 PM)

mental illness has become one of the most disturbing and disgusting trends to hit the population of teenagers. there are hundreds of them running around screaming depression and cutting themselves and throwing around textbook reasons and definitions for things. everyone is so into learning about disorders and transforming themselves to fit the diagnosis. because they see it as "tragic" and "dramatic".
After I left my old school, this girl who, in the most basic of terms that I'll use, who was a whore started cutting herself. Alot of people were concerned, but I was confused. See, she was perfectly normal and happy and nothing happened to her. She would basically make her cuts VISIBLE to everyone and on AIM she'd put on away messages like "cutting...". It just irritated me because she just shamed everyone who is truly depressed.
But anyway, my own two cents about anti depressants:
People who are prescribed with them must be watched. It doesn't work well for a person to just get the pills and take them. They need to be closely observed by someone, a guardian, a doctor. I think that they need to go through some sort of treatment program as well.
NoSex
Mar 17 2006, 07:45 AM
Hardcore dancing is the new black, and depression is the new attention deficit disorder.
flc
Mar 17 2006, 09:27 AM
Yes, I have heard that anti-depressants have sometimes caused death.
I think nowadays a lot of people are using the excuse that they're depressed to cover up their real faults that maybe they could fix. I know my mom made me start taking Prozac because she thought I was depressed, even though I know I'm just moody.
All these emo kids who believe they need medication are a distraction from the kids who really need help.
sillakilla220
Mar 18 2006, 07:14 PM
QUOTE(rnrn897 @ Jul 15 2004, 1:42 PM)

OFCOURSE ITS UNHEALTHY.. wut kinda question is that?!
and if its unhealthy.. ofcourse its wrong..
there are better way to work depression out
well if it comes down to my friend staying off anti-depressants and being healthy but blowing his brains out b/c he doesnt get better or being on them but being "unhealthy" and staying alive i think i would choose to the 2nd choice
QUOTE(nothing_plus_this @ Mar 16 2006, 10:54 AM)

yes. i have brains.
but i am also depressed/some other disorder i don't buy, and am on anti-depressants. but, i waited until it nearly destroyed my life to resort to it. which was a good 3 years, or until i turned 17 (although i had been periodically attempting suicide, hurting myself, and blacking out during mood swings since i was 9 or 10). i HAD to make sure it wasn't just hormones, high school, or a phase.
and, i attended counseling prior to agreeing to trying the medications. it was extremely rough for me to conclude that i wasn't just a normal teenage girl trying to find a reason and a diagnosis for my behaviour. but, it was also one of the best choices i've made in my entire life.
so yes, i have brains. but i'm also one of the few who are truly inflicted with mental illness.
wow so i was arguin black history w/ a crazy person?? no wonder u werent making any sense!!!
how did u try hurting yourself? sexually maybe??
nothing_plus_this
Mar 18 2006, 07:33 PM
you're such an ass.
but, to answer your question, as asinine as it may be, i cut myself from the ages of 13 to 18. in between, i was abusing drugs to the point where every time i used, i was testing my body, hoping it would be the last time. when i was younger (13 and before), i threw myself down stairs, took knives to my arms, and swallowed allergy medication, tylenol, aspirin, peroxide, and cleaning products. i promised my mother every day that the next, i wouldn't be around to make her angry.
but, my "personality disorders" have absolutely nothing to do with my intellect. in fact, half the geniuses of the human race have been a bit mad. chew on that.
i was a straight A student through grade school and junior high. as i said in a previous post, about 4 or 5 years ago (the start of my time in high school), my behaviour was increasingly dangerous and my mental state was deteriorating. THAT is why i decided to take the step and seek help. all of the years before had built up to a complete and utter breakdown, i was abusing drugs two times more than i had in the past, i was cutting myself on a daily basis for no reason, i was banging my arms, wrists, legs, and head against things just to bruise myself and feel as though i had experienced adequate punishment for disappointing the world. i was losing my temper at the drop of a pin, breaking down and blacking out literally, over spilt milk. basically, i was losing complete control over my mind and my actions. i almost lost every credit i'd earned in highschool because i was absent so often. i fell apart. but, that did not take away my ability to think intelligently.
i am a very smart person. crazy, different, unique, troubled, or normal. i'm smart regardless.
sillakilla220
Mar 18 2006, 07:42 PM
if u were so smart you wouldn't cut yourself... anyone smart would know that isnt good for u
nothing_plus_this
Mar 18 2006, 07:47 PM
are you kidding me?
i shouldn't even bother responding to that. but, i will not allow you to convince yourself that you're right.
when someone is as troubled and as depressed as i was, in the past, they lose control over their actions. they do not realize what they are doing. their common sense gets f**ked right up the ass and they do stupid things.
i KNOW that cutting yourself is ridiculous. i KNOW that it NEVER helps a single thing. I KNOW THESE THINGS.
but when i was in such a state where i could barely walk three steps without wanting to collapse and beat myself to death, i didn't really stop to think logically.
now please. stop being a complete idiot.
sillakilla220
Mar 18 2006, 07:57 PM
in my eyes i would have to question the intellignence of anyone who consciously ingests cleaning products... i mean, lets be real... could u imagine einstein downing a bottle of clorox b4 workin out the theory of relativity? there is a difference between mad and crazy, and from the sounds of it u hardly qualify as mad
nothing_plus_this
Mar 18 2006, 08:25 PM
i was in no way comparing myself to einstein. i was simply saying that people who aren't completely sane, can still be smart.
maybe you should quit bitching about how unfairly you and "your people" are treated in today's society and take a look at how you treat people with mental disorders or diseases.
and again. stop being a damn idiot and get over yourself.
and accept the fact that you can't always be right about everything. specifically things you have absolutely no friggin clue about.
sillakilla220
Mar 18 2006, 08:31 PM
QUOTE(nothing_plus_this @ Mar 18 2006, 5:25 PM)

i was in no way comparing myself to einstein. i was simply saying that people who aren't completely sane, can still be smart.
maybe you should quit bitching about how unfairly you and "your people" are treated in today's society and take a look at how you treat people with mental disorders or diseases.
and again. stop being a damn idiot and get over yourself.
and accept the fact that you can't always be right about everything. specifically things you have absolutely no friggin clue about.
so since u kno me so well how do i treat ppl with mental disorders or diseases? i make fun of them online? gimmie a break... i would take a shit on your face
nothing_plus_this
Mar 18 2006, 10:16 PM
this thread is officially destroyed.
can't anyone do anything about this kid?
CrackedRearView
Mar 18 2006, 10:45 PM
There's a fine line between blunt and complete dickhead, and you've efficiently crossed it sillakilla.
I'm only sorry that I can't rearrange your face myself, because someone will some day.
flc
Mar 18 2006, 10:52 PM
Sillakilla220, have you ever been depressed? I suggest you stop speaking as if you have been in the shoes of someone who was depressed.