Should people who think America sucks so bad stay in America? I personally think that if you hate the country so much, and all you do is bitch and moan about it, then you should pack yo bags :)

That or try to do something about it.

AMERICA!!! f**k YEAH!!

Yeah, there's really no point in staying if you don't like it.

Some people can't afford to leave though.

I like America but I don't agree with a lot America has done and doing now. The people that hate America might not have the money to leave.

i think they should leave, and if they don't have the money to leave then they should shut up and quit whining. if ur biggest complaint in life is that u live in america...id say u have it pretty good

if it's so awful then why do so many want to live here

I never heard someone crying about living in America. If I did I don't remember. These people can complain all they want. There is freedon of speech. Once they go somewhere else they're going to realize how America is better.

I think an American has the right to complain. My family has been here for hundreds of years and fought in just about every war... so I feel like I have every right to question how things are being handled.

I see that such called "Freedom Of Speech" is very important to you, but let me ask you something, does that "Freedom Of Speech" fills your stomak too? I really doubt it. It doesn't really matter if you ARE allowed to cry or complain about, what matters is that noone is doing anything about it, so its all just plain simple words trown in vain after whom you are more hungry then before.

But sitting there and complaining while not trying to do anything isn't exactly beneficial by any means. People who bitch and moan just add to the problem.

Give me convenience or give me death.

What does someone being hungry have anything to do with this? These people that just complain and complain, just let them. I just go on with my life and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one, so when they see the world moving on, they have one option rather they want to stay or join with us.

i completely agree

this is only my personal experience, but the people i know that bitch and complain about america, are the same people who don't register to vote, and don't intend on helping change anything. they just wanna complain




i think im talking about different people than u, i don't mean people who don't like how something is being handled, ect. the people i'm talking about are those who just sit around and claim to hate America and think its awful bla bla bla. i agree everyone has a right to disagree with how some things are, i disagree with a lot of things, but i don't think America sucks

eff them, I LOVE AMERICA
it's so nice here, and I love liberty (even though it's
limited)

the only place I would rather be...Japan (i'm a geek), or the future
3456 to be exact.

I love America, with that said though, one of the things that I love about America is that people are free to complain. It's one of the basic rights in America that people take for granted.

It's in the Constitution folks. Let them have their say and you can argue with them.

I haven't got anything against complaining. I've got an issue with people who complain and aren't willing to do anything about it other than pester others.

So what do you expect a high school student to do? All I can do is vote.

Bad attitude right there, IMO. If you really want to, you can do much more than just vote. Voting is the minimum one should do for their country. You can get involved in political organizations, groups, etc. You can try to spread awareness, or try to convince others to vote. You can start groups that help you out with those goals. There have been people in high school that have made differences. It may not be something that goes down in text books, but I'm positive that there have been those extraordinary individuals.

People like to complain, thats what people do.

Some might think america sucks, but think other countries suck a lot more.

Also, I dont know how old you are, but alot of my friend complain about it and cant leave or get involved because they are too young.

14 year olds cant just hop on a plane and move to asia.

true

but then again no 14 year old i know has any valid reason to hate america

Exactly.

i live in the U.S. and i'm a citizen of the U.S. but i do not believe in the country's mission....anyone who's studied U.S. history knows that the country has done some fu*ked up things to non-Americans...and i just cannot condone this behavior

errrrrrr
i don't really understand what side ur defending




so u think america sucks or u don't think it sucks?
every country has messed up things in it's past

Exactly. Take Japan, for instance :)

considering how old america is, i'd probably guess it has a lot less than most countries as well
i really wanna know where people are going to go that's so much better

I think every citizen has the right to criticize his / her country afterall, it is your country. However, I don't with when non Belgians (I'll use Belgium because I'm not American) say; I hate Belgium, the weather sucks, the country is boring, my country is better yadi yada. That's a no - no. If you hate it that much, try to do something that could help improve it for you or GTFO.

luvly :)

im saying that every country has its good sides and its bad sides...oftentimes, i believe that the bad/evil america has done outweighs the good, but that doesn't mean it sucks entirely. and there are lots of other countries to live in that offer similar/the same "benefits" america does

so what country are u gonna go to that has done less "evil" and that still provides the "benefits" that america does

i didn't say anything about more or less evil...and with money/power/privilege one can live anywhere and be just as satisfied as if they lived in america...the point is too many people think america is the best country in the world and the fact is, it just is not. america is a rich man's heaven and a poor man's prison, but since you're probably not poor, you wouldn't understand

how is it a poor man's prison more than any other country in the world?
how many countries have u been to?

several, shall i name them for you? moreover, i am the daughter of foreign born parents and the first child born in america...but like i said, it's apparent that you've never struggled therefore you will never understand the comparison i made, honey.

quit judging me, nothing is apparent since u don't know anything about me

well lets compare the poor in america to the ones in africa and decide which place u'd rather live as a poor person

if i was going to be poor, and i had to choose a country to live in, id choose america



yea u should, i asked cause i wondered if u were comparing america to them

i suppose when you think of poor people in america you think of tenement buildings or the "projects" but there are poor people in america who live without electricity, healthy drinking water or running water period and they've gone days without eating...and although it's not as extreme as africa, those are the same conditions many africans live through.

and i lived in england and i've lived in jamaica...i've been to france, italy, aruba, canada, bermuda, zimbabwe, ireland, mexico, the dominican republic, haiti, brazil, and antigua...i think thats all...and i'm going to tahiti this christmas...my travel experiences greatly influence my thought, just in case you couldn't tell =]

yes there's really poor people in america, but there isn't as many people in this extreme condition as in other countries.

i still wanna know, where would u most want to live if u were a poor person?

i wouldnt want to be poor at all...and i definitely wouldn't want to be poor in america. to be quite frank, america shits on the poor and whether you believe me or not is of your own accord. in none of the countries i've visited are the government officials so against helping those who cannot help themselves.

^For the most part it seems America "shits" on the poor who beg instead of going out and trying to do something to better themselves. I know not everyone has the luxury of bettering themselves and begging is the final option, but there are plenty of able-bodied people who can get off their street corner and try to get a job.

steven, i want u 2 tell me what is the point of leaving the street corner, where one might sell drugs or panhandle or sell bootleg videos/CDs for a job where the minimum wage is $5.50 an hour. with $5.50 an hour you cannot pay for health care, save money for a rainy day, afford an apartment, etc. can you please tell where is the point in getting a legal job in america? america shits on anyone who cannot help themselves, that's why the poor pay the most taxes and the rich get tax breaks. but i've never been rich, i don't know how hard that shit may be, but i do know that as a middle-class american citizen who once struggled, that america helps no one. welfare programs have been cut, health care is virtually non existent, gas prices are way too high, homes are going into foreclosure left and right, unemployment rates climb, the number of african americans suffering from HIV/AIDS is growing as we speak, more and more african american men are dropping out of high school...and you're going to tell me that america helps people?

HIV/AIDS can be avoided by sanitation/not having sex with everyone.
If they were born into poverty conditions, I don't have much to say on their behalf.
My main gripe is the people who are at the minimum scraping by, and they choose to drop out of high school because they don't think that they have a future in the working world. People who don't try to make something of themselves quite frankly don't have the right to complain about not having money.
Welfare is very much existent. It's very abused as well. I could probably find some charts and statistics on welfare if you'd like.

They don't have to work for 5.50$ / hr. There are a lot of companies who will give you a shot to ear more money (even if it's not a good amount of money) if you prove to be willing to learn, have a good attitude, look smart, and show enthusiasm. A lot of businesses will put you through the training for the job as that's the easy part. The hard part is finding the employee that can and will do the job well. There's also the military. The military is my failsafe. The military houses you, feeds you, trains you, pays you, and gives you something huge to put on your resume. They'll give you a lifetime career. Sure you might get shot at and stuff, but how's that worse than living in nasty areas of town, living under bridges and off street corners?

i agree with steven, i was referring mostly to the people who don't try

and if they were born into poverty then that sucks, and i agree they should get help, but just because u were born into it isn't a reason to just quit and accept it. my dad was born into poverty, and now he's not, so i think its possible to be done. staying in school would be a good start, u said more and more black men are dropping out of high school. i'm a black man who didn't drop out of high school, that's their own choice, by doing that they are setting themselves up for poverty and not being able to get a good job.

SoEffinMajor i STILL want to know, IF u had to be poor, what country would u want to be poor in

Boyfriend recently came back from Japan, and he like always says how America sucks. I would love to move to another country to experience if that statement is true, but I really have no complaints. If you want something to happen, you do it yourself.
Though.. I really want to go to Japan too ):

People moving to escape a problem won't solve anything in the long run

i've lived in jamaica and i've spent time visiting jamaica, so if i had 2 be poor i'd live in jamaica...i lived with family members who suffered from poverty in the country and i know one thing is for sure, you don't have to go hungry. u may not have fancy clothes or more than one pair of shoes, but people are always willing to help you out by giving food...u know someone who grows breadfruit, or has a mango tree and they're willing to share with u...in jamaica you aren't treated like a poor person, you're treated like a person who needs help...and there is a big difference

1. yes, HIV/AIDS can be prevented by not fostering in promiscuity, however it can also be prevented by using condoms...which aren't provided for free because there aren't many free clinics anymore...reagan cut that

2. poverty can be reversed with proper education, unfortunately many whites fled the city forcing african americans into these areas...businessmen/women left because they didn't want to serve african american communities. as a result these african american communities became what we know as, impoverished areas. unfortunately, many of these impoverished areas do not offer adequate schooling (i.e., schools in washington, d.c. and baltimore, maryland)

3. on the welfare, could you please find some statistics for me, because it is very hard for women to get welfare, well, minority women that is. these women have to have a certain number of children before they can receive a decent amount of state aid. WIC doesn't cover the cost of several items, for example, it covers milk, chicken, bread, but not fruits and vegetables or toilet tissue. so, i'm supposed to drink the milk, but what do wipe myself with when i have to urinate? i'm supposed to eat the ground beef, but what am i supposed to wipe myself with when i have to shit? moreover, oftentimes you have to find a job in a certain number of weeks, but what if they aren't hiring in your neighborhood? what if you cannot get transportation to where they're hiring? what if you cannot afford to take the bus or the bus doesn't go to where jobs are located?

3. nobody is willing to give anyone without proper education and credentials a job paying more than minimum wage, no matter how hard they work. that's the importance of getting an education. if i could get a decent paying job without a college education, do you honestly think i'd be saving money for my college tuition this semester? this is america, remember?

4. going to the military isn't an option for everyone. you have to pass tests, physical and educational, to make it into the military. the military doesn't except every tom, dick and harry's application. and the military is scary for many individuals, sometimes it's better to suffer where you are than to go somewhere else and suffer, because at least you know what the suffering is like at home. you understand?

people can get free food at shelters too




wouldn't most people would get a raise before long and they wouldn't make minimum wage anymore? u know when u drop out of high school that this is how it works and ur going to have a harder time

1. have u ever been in a shelter? people looking down on you, treating you like your less than human? have you ever eaten at a shelter? do you know what that shit tastes like? how many year round shelters do you know of? people don't just eat on thanksgiving and christmas, ya know?

2. u don't know what it's going to be like later on if you're poor...you just want to leave where you are at that moment...and you're willing to do whatever you have to do to get out that space...you're not thinking about tomorrow...f**k tomorrow, when you don't know what you're going to eat today...

3. do you realize how long it takes to get a raise, at any job? you can't be serious...honestly, you just cant be

1. yes i've been in shelters. do people look down on u? sure they do, but who cares, id rather have people looking down on me than starving. honestly i think treating someone less that human would be leaving them on the street to starve. does the food taste good? no, but once again, would u rather starve, ur poor, u arent getting any 5 star meal, take it or leave it. there's numerous year round shelters in new york, and i really can't base my opinion off any other city, im just talking about where im from. so if there isnt in ur city, that sucks, and i agree they should do something about it.

2. we've heard since we started school not to drop out, that a high school diploma gets u better jobs, ect ect ect. unless u have no common sense then u know that going out into the working world with not even a high school diploma is going to be HARD. if u dont consider tomorrow before u drop out of school that's kinda ur own fault.

3. i got a raise at mine within two months. so i don't know

There's lots of people that bitch in this country, but if you're going to bitch about how much this place sucks you should at least make an effort. Then you don't look like a complete a-hole... then you can say "Hey, poverty's a problem, but I'm working." or "I hate the president and I hate that our vote doesn't count, but I voted anyways." at least make an effort. What bugs me, is when people don't work and expect to be able to live off the government. American's have it pretty easy, in my opinion. The world's been going to hell for a long time, there's been lots of bad things in the past, and there are going to be bad things in the future but we've still had good things come from it.

I'm all for people voicing their opinions about the government, the war, the healthcare, etc. but don't be hypocritical about it.

dsjfgsadfg AHH i tottally think the same but sometimes people have no other option but to stay because "america may suck but ___ isnt any better" ive heard that from alot of people.

Wrong. Moving might help you. What about immigrants from extremely poor countries who move overseas for a better life?

I should have worded that differently. If everyone were to move from America and America were to become very insignificant on the face of the Earth, then the problem would just spread to wherever the people flocked to, and there would be a new bad guy.