You guys are full of shit

yeah, i did say you said it was harsh enough because you obviously didn't see it fit to say that anything else could be proposed, other than the jump of the gun on our warning.

as a mod, you are required to follow all the rules. if you break the rules and abuse your position while doing so, you disqualify yourself from being a mod. that's not a punishment. thats a disqualification.

THEN you need to be punished as a member.

Its just like an official member being warned and suspended. They dont get to keep their official member status after that..

I also dont think that moderators who break the rules or abuse their position should be allowed back into to the staff. thats unexceptable and quite frankly, absurd.

Someone answer me this: Did Robbi and Diana get a raised warning level?

are you kidding? what a stupid question. why would somebody of superiority get a raised warning level like the mere members here?

Is that actually what happens? to my understanding, a member isnt just stripped of their OM status for doing somethign wrong. they're warned too, and/or muted orsuspended or whatever. They are stripped of their OM status BECAUSE they have been warned.


Same logic applies to a mod. they are demodded BECAUSE they have been warned/suspended.

I SERIOUSLY WANT AN ANSWER.

WTF, why did they all leave?

// Okay, I want to know why they didn't.

All right, fair enough. But I do think that there should be a level of mercy. After a user is suspended, they are allowed to come back. How would that be different from a moderator? We are human, so we are prone to making mistakes. For small mistakes, should there not be mercy when letting them back on staff once de-modded?

I edited :) Haha.

Why were they not warned?

we're only human, too. we made a mistake of spamming, but we're still warned with a 30 hour posting preview. what's the point?

and no, because like everyone, including you have said, they are held to a higher standard.

if a mod is suspended from the forum, they can come back to the forum like the rest of the members after their suspension is over. just not back on the staff.

i dont think any mercy should be shown to the moderators. moderators do need stricter punishments because they have more power than the members. "with great power comes great responsibility" right?

However, if they Work their way back up to your good graces, then I would see them being allowed back onto the staff as acceptable. Just like an OM can be restored to their original status after showing the mods that they can play nice. i just dont think that a mod should immediately be let back onto staff after returning from a suspension.

Suzzette, you f**ked up. You should have warned not only Spencer and I, but also Robbi and Diana. If Kiera or Rebecca would have later decided that they were going to give them special treatment because they are moderators, then they could have lowered their warning level.

But we do allow a measure of leniency with Members, no?

NO ONE GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT YOUR GOD DAMN CODES! SHUT THE HELL UP!

DITTO.

So the community guidelines, or whatever, don't apply to the moderators?

i know we've gone over this, but it surely does not appear so.

Then why weren't they warned? They're members of this community, right?

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both of which are always m.i.a. when this stuff comes around. how convient.

I'm sorry Suzzette. I really wish Kiera or Rebecca was on.

Jusun just signed onto AIM. Someone get him in here.

they don't punish you for p/ming them? wow.

anyway, by time they get around to it, it won't matter. this is going to keep going either way.

what's his aim? i don't want this to be a one-sided argument.

miron2k

edit:// wrong thread.

Wow, I should tell him to reduce my warning level.

can we just make a chat like we did last time something had to be discussed with jusun?

LOL at this thread. I honestly don't see how people can get mad on the internet.

I could care less what happens with mod punishment. Whether you demod them or do nothing at all.

I could care less if my warning level is raised for months (which it was) or if I get suspended.

But if yall were going to do something to the mods, the person you guys demod, let me take their spots temporarily so I can sit at my throne.

Just a sidenoteeeee...

At the beginning of the thread, I think the misunderstanding was that it was the first offense...like the mod is demodded for a bit the FIRST time a punishment has to be discussed. If a punishment for them has to be discussed again...that would be grounds for a demotion for me (like Suzzette said, we were both bringing up demotion in that other incident, so I may be thinking tougher than the other staff members, but whatever). But...if that was not what was going wonky, then ignore me.

A moderator makes certain guarantees/promises when they apply, don't they? If they fail such guarantees shouldn't they own up to them?

A moderator is on a different level than OMs and members. Therefore, they should be punished on a differently level.

Hello! I'm here now, I apologize for the wait.

Our discussion about what to do about the Robbi and Diana situation went from possible demotion and immediately to giving them a week off (suspension). I went over the thread again and towards the end no discussion of increasing their warning was mentioned, even though if I do recall correctly it was briefly discussed in the beginning because it is what we did when we suspended Nicki. I think (at least on my part) the increased warning was overlooked because I hadn't noticed myself until it was mentioned in this thread.

the whole thing was overlooked.

Yes, I wasn't the one who actually put them to official member status, Rebecca did. Our (head/admins/mentors) discussion toward the end just gear around "Ok, they are going to be suspended for a week, after a week if they want to come back then they are welcome to rejoin". The discussion on actually having a warning accompany that was lost amongst all of the discussion how on to handlethe whole thing. I'm going to recheck what was said to see.

so, if they're allowed to begin modding again after a week, i, too, should be able to have back my official membership to avoid flood control. say it's a different situation all you guys want because it's all i've heard, but it's unfair for the people who are referred to as "role models" to be able to resume a position of power after only a week, while they participated in the same thing we did and we still have a warning. if they are trusted with power, they are trusted not to abuse it, and when they do, they should be demodded for more than a week...or at least as long as the other people involved.

i don't give a shit if it's "harsher" because they aren't able to do any moderation things for a week, but it was their choice to become involved and they should take things accordingly ESPECIALLY since they are an example of the rules.

Drawn and quartered? xD I'll bet whoever it was that warned you hypothetically, was probably mistaken if you don't know what for.

Maybe just let it rest a bit, or talk to another Mod who may be able to make sense of the situation. :]

It should be a tradition that if your modding powers are suspended, you resign your position.

Because seriously, if you've abused your power, you're not fit to be a mod anymore. Have the decency to step down.

Hell, I stepped down because I knew i wasn't going to be able to be as active as being a mod required. It's a common decency. If you're not doing the job well, vacate the position so someone better qualified can fill in.

I sure wish Robbi and Diana would reply to this topic.

i'd actually like to know if our punishment was actually brought up in the diana/robbi demodding stages.

The fact that some members of the mod staff need punishment for anything at all tells you a lot about the direction this forum is going in.

Things were much better when I was admin.

Heck yeah they were!

Not like I was around at that time, haha. I miss you Kathleen

Stfu.

hell yea!

PUT THE OLD REGIME BACK!



Looks like you just got owned.

Your mom.

That's creative, Elba. How much did you spend on your nose job?

I already told you how much I spent when I got it three years ago

Just shut up now, please.

Alright, can we please get back on topic.

you guys are ignoring the topic.

Really? I've been discussing it the whole way through, and agreeing that we need to form guidelines and continue the discussion.

What are you talking about?