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Michelle
QUOTE(ThomasC @ Jul 23 2007, 03:23 PM) *
Someone once told me not to judge a book by it's cover. I didn't listen to them.

Who thinks that the covers for 1-3 were better designed then the ones for 4-7? (not me..)


I loved the fifth cover. shrug* I don't judge them, b/c they all make me think of Harry Potter. I'm guessing that the artist's own style and skill developed... it was through the course of thirteen years. Whaddya expect?




Another unanswered FAQ:

Was Ariana raped?
SayBloodyMary
What? Where does it indicate that Ariana was raped?
blacknailpolish
QUOTE
Was Ariana raped?


I think so...something like that, maybe duffed her up a bit too.
Michelle
QUOTE(SayBloodyMary @ Jul 23 2007, 03:27 PM) *
What? Where does it indicate that Ariana was raped?


Re-read where they discuss the part about the three muggle boys doing something to her and "damaging" her. It's very suggestive, and if so, JKR did it in a way that only more "mature" readers would have caught on. There is no proof, though.
HakunaMatata
I don't think Rowling specifically says what happened to Ariana - but I definitely wouldn't cut rape from the list. she did go half-mad, after all.
Michelle
QUOTE(ThomasC @ Jul 23 2007, 03:32 PM) *
Oh, it says muggle boys did something to her that messed her up for the rest of her life.


I know.


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There is no proof, though.
Michelle
QUOTE(ThomasC @ Jul 23 2007, 03:34 PM) *
Oh, Michelle: What explains why some people come back as ghosts? I think I remember Harry beginning to tell Ron something, I can't remember "they had unifinished business"(LOL CASPER) I don't remember reading any more information on that.


Good question. JKR never answered that exactly*. I read somewhere it was only when people had a sad or unfinished ending.

Nearly Headless Nick - Was nearly headless... couldn't join the headless hunt. :[

Grey Lady - died of sadness and shame of course.

Bloody Baron - killed himself b/c he killed Ravenclaw's daughter, who he loved. No wonder he's so scary.
Michelle
QUOTE(ThomasC @ Jul 23 2007, 03:38 PM) *
Oh, well I guess that clears some things up.

Who thought it was ironic that it was Aberforth in the mirror, rather than Dumbledore whom Harry thought it was?


I did think it was pretty cool... I always wished it had to do with Sirius being behind the veil right next to Dumbledore. :(
HakunaMatata
So wait, how did Aberforth get a hold of the complement to Harry's mirror?
ersatz
Perhaps he inherited it?
Michelle
QUOTE(HakunaMatata @ Jul 23 2007, 03:47 PM) *
So wait, how did Aberforth get a hold of the complement to Harry's mirror?

I remember something about Mundungus taking it or something... not sure though.
SayBloodyMary
I think the ghost thing was all to do with what happend at Kings Cross, when Dumbledore offered Harry the choice (well, explained it to him) either to go back or to get on the train and see what comes next. Harry chose to go back, and because he wasn't strictly speaking dead, went back into his body. But if someone who had really died chose to go back, it would be as a ghost. *shrug*
blacknailpolish
Yeah, in the fifth book Harry asks Nearly Headless Nick about being a ghost, and he did say that ghosts chose to stay on earth. The King's Cross thing is like Limbo then...I dunno, something like that
doiink
snivellus .. sad.gif i have a newfound love for him...


..okay on second thought, i WOULD have a newfound love for him if it wasn't for that greasy hair and hooked nose of his *shivers

eh then again...the part when he cried over the letters from lily *bawls
blacknailpolish
I dunno...i always thought of his greaseyness and hooked nose as sort of kinky eyebrowes.gif
doiink
^HAHAHAAHAHAH eh..man remember a couple books ago in the pensieve or something, harry witnessed sirius making fun of snape for it? saying something about his grease messing up his papers from his nose being too close or something? laugh.gif

the fact that he loved lily his whole life is so sososossoososososososo SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDD
blacknailpolish
Indeed, him loving Lily all this time, it really WAS sad. When I realized why he had said "look at me" i about started crying (again...)
doiink
YAAAAAAAAAAAW. ahhhh i finished reading it at like 1am, and the whole night, i was just thinking about snape eyebrowes.gif
blacknailpolish
Me too, hun, me too...him and Dumbledore, who was always like my third grandfather
doiink
i have always loved and will forever love SIRIUS. i swear i officially HATED the harry potter series when rowling killed him off. sigh..but then yaknow, those grudges don't last long. BUT SERIOUSLY, HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HOTT! WTH WAS HE SO FUGLY IN THE MUVVIEEE T__T
davinci
Mundungus took the treasures from Kreacher and that was about the Slytherin locket. I can't really remember reading exactly how Aberforth received the mirror. I'm guessing it was Dumbledore.

As to who comes back as ghosts and who don't, I think that's discussed at the end of book 5 where Harry asks Nick how he was able to remain as a ghost. I looked at it just yesterday.

Edit: Whoops, didn't see this page. I think it was in limbo as well since Dumbledore told Harry it may have been happening in his head, but it doesn't necessarily mean it isn't real.
HakunaMatata
Aw, I adored that little listen about how just 'cause it's in your head, doesn't mean it isn't real. hug.gif
doiink
did anyone notice kreacher is pronounced the same as creature? huh.gif
davinci
Yup, noticed it the first time I read the 5th book. I say each word in my head if I'm reading thoroughly. Interesting name regardless.

Aww, house-elves. *sigh* DOBBYYYYYY. cry.gif

Well, nothing to do so I'm going to continue to re-read the book. I'm sort of dreading it because of all the deaths and I never dread reading Harry Potter.
doiink
^ aww and i had finally thought i came up with something of interest fallen.gif
Comptine
QUOTE(davinci @ Jul 23 2007, 06:00 PM) *
Mundungus took the treasures from Kreacher and that was about the Slytherin locket. I can't really remember reading exactly how Aberforth received the mirror. I'm guessing it was Dumbledore.

As to who comes back as ghosts and who don't, I think that's discussed at the end of book 5 where Harry asks Nick how he was able to remain as a ghost. I looked at it just yesterday.

Edit: Whoops, didn't see this page. I think it was in limbo as well since Dumbledore told Harry it may have been happening in his head, but it doesn't necessarily mean it isn't real.



Dung probably was going through Sirius' house and found (among other shiny treasures) the mirror. He probably thought it was worth something and took it. Aberforth told Harry that he bought it from Dung and kept it because Dumbledore told him it was an enchanted mirror of Sirius' and that Harry had the second one.

I think, JK Rowling didn't want to explain to far into things especially with the overwhelming amount of info in this book but Dumbledore told Harry that he had a choice to either move on or return to Earth. Since Harry was a special case, he (his soul) was able to return to his body but anyone else's soul would return to Earth without its body, therefore, becoming ghosts.
blacknailpolish
Victoire is Fleur and Bill's daughter...notice the French name Victoire and the French name Fleur...
Comptine
QUOTE(ThomasC @ Jul 23 2007, 07:22 PM) *
What year like actual 19__A.D. does the book take place in?

I'm guessing that his 17th year takes place in 1997-1998. Why would J.K.R. write all the books in her past? =|

but who is Victoire?



When she started writing the series, it was a long time ago. And the 7th book is in 1997-1998.
Michelle
It doesn't matter when the book takes place...

all I know is, today is "19 years later" and Harry Potter is happily at home with Ginny.
Rachel
I really wish she didn't kill of Tonks, Remus, and Fred :sob: . I definitely cried for about 1/2 the book. I do like that Snape ended up "good" and it was interesting to learn more about the three (Snape, Lily, James) when they were younger. Honestly, James was pretty cruel to Snape.


Also, I would have liked to see Neville and Luna together in the end, both professors @ Hogwarts. In the 5th movie, the two actors had great chemistry as well as in the books.
Michelle
QUOTE(Rachel @ Jul 23 2007, 06:51 PM) *
I really wish she didn't kill of Tonks, Remus, and Fred :sob: . I definitely cried for about 1/2 the book. I do like that Snape ended up "good" and it was interesting to learn more about the three (Snape, Lily, James) when they were younger. Honestly, James was pretty cruel to Snape.


Also, I would have liked to see Neville and Luna together in the end, both professors @ Hogwarts. In the 5th movie, the two actors had great chemistry as well as in the books.


I think Luna and DEAN end up together. :chokes:



EDIT-

Considering no one has commented on this, I think that I am going to post it so that you can all read it. It seriously goes with the book (whether JKR intended it to or not)

QUOTE
Death is nothing at all,
I have only slipped away
into the next room.

I am I,
and you are you;
whatever we were to each other,
that, we still are.

Call me by my old familiar name,
speak to me in the easy way
which you always used,
put no difference in your tone,
wear no forced air
of solemnity or sorrow.

Laugh as we always laughed
at the little jokes we shared together.
Let my name ever be
the household word that it always was.
Let it be spoken without effect,
without the trace of a shadow on it.

Life means all
that it ever meant.
It is the same as it ever was.
There is unbroken continuity.

Why should I be out of mind
because I am out of sight?

I am waiting for you,
for an interval,
somewhere very near,
just around the corner.

All is well.
davinci
That poem describes a few situations in HP. Perhaps she found that as inspiration? It doesn't seem to be a mere coincidence to me but it's not a big deal.

Did we ever get a proper explanation of how Harry's wand was able to perform its own spell (the one with golden flames) during his first encounter with Voldemort? Ollivander didn't know and I don't remember if Dumbledore explained it.
davinci
QUOTE(robbotic @ Jul 23 2007, 08:30 PM) *
I like how in every single one of the books (except, obviously, book 6) Dumbledore and Harry have a long talk, usually explaining things.
Yeah, it became a ritual of sorts. I was wondering if something like that was going to happen in this one. I'm relly glad it did!

QUOTE(ThomasC @ Jul 23 2007, 08:36 PM) *
I think it was touched upon that its the Wizard, not the wand. I'm going to re-read the "King's Cross" & "A Flaw In The Plan" chapters.
But he didn't didn't even know the spell (the incantation) and had never produced gold flames from his wand. He was able to break Lucius Malfoy's wand in two.
davinci
Somehow, I don't think that analogy makes sense. shrug.gif
davinci
I know, which is why I wanted her to explain it in the book. Not like there's a book 8 to look forward to for more answers. :(

Oh, and about the Parseltongue analogy.. Parseltongue is a language so I suppose it can be learnt but Harry just knew it. He wasn't taught it. Spells are taught so it's not as if he would have been able to 'recall' it.
xLINDAAA
i just finished the book, oh i'm so sad, it's pathetic. no more harry potter. i feel all empty + hollow. lol, well i really liked the book. i was literally on the edge of my seat most of the time tongue.gif  and i teared up so many times. especially when dobby died, i was crying my eyes out cuz dobby is so sweet, being so faithful and loving to harry and everything...

anyways the epilogue was [so heartwarming] but kind of unexpected.
i mean it was so happy and everything. i really expected the ending to be a little more dark? and i also would have wanted to know what happened to everyone else =/

but i'm so glad that ron and hermione FINALLY got together!!! and harry and ginny of course. that was so incredibly sweet when ginny gave him a birthday kiss xD

and snape being "good." that came as a BIG shock for me, lol. but how he was in love with lily and everything...all i can say is WOW!

theres a lot of unexplained things though, still. i wish things would have been explained more thoroughly.

but anyways, overall, i loved the book =] can't wait for the movie to come out.
lovefooled
The epilogue was lame.
SayBloodyMary
QUOTE(Rachel @ Jul 24 2007, 12:51 AM) *
I really wish she didn't kill of Tonks, Remus, and Fred :sob: . I definitely cried for about 1/2 the book. I do like that Snape ended up "good" and it was interesting to learn more about the three (Snape, Lily, James) when they were younger. Honestly, James was pretty cruel to Snape.
Also, I would have liked to see Neville and Luna together in the end, both professors @ Hogwarts. In the 5th movie, the two actors had great chemistry as well as in the books.

Would you want Luna Lovegood teaching your child? *alarm* I mean love her to death, and all, but she TOTALLY took over as editor of the quibbler, and had lots of sex and babies with Dean.

Oh, and James Potter was a complete and utter wanker. Other than fortunate breeding choices, there isn't much to redeem him. And yet I'm strangely drawn to him.

OHOHOH

I forgot. I LOVE AUNTIE MURIEL! 'Oh dear, is this the Muggle-born? Bad posture and skinny ankles!'
Also, Ginny's real name is Ginevra? Really?

Oh, and Michelle, is that poem like, in the dedication or something? Because in that case, the one in the British version was different... I really liked the dedication, as a side note... it was sweet.
stephinika
QUOTE(SayBloodyMary @ Jul 23 2007, 07:13 PM) *
Also, Ginny's real name is Ginevra? Really?

Oh, and Michelle, is that poem like, in the dedication or something? Because in that case, the one in the British version was different... I really liked the dedication, as a side note... it was sweet.


Haha, I know, I was like "Who's Ginevra?" It took a minute to sink in. and Yeah, the British version is a bit different...its in Canada too so yeah.
weed
i already got book seven but im re-reading book 6 because its been a while so want to re-freshh. biggrin.gif
Comptine
QUOTE(davinci @ Jul 23 2007, 08:26 PM) *
That poem describes a few situations in HP. Perhaps she found that as inspiration? It doesn't seem to be a mere coincidence to me but it's not a big deal.

Did we ever get a proper explanation of how Harry's wand was able to perform its own spell (the one with golden flames) during his first encounter with Voldemort? Ollivander didn't know and I don't remember if Dumbledore explained it.



Dumbledore couldn't really explain it. He knew that Harry and Voldemort were bounded by extraordinary magic. Also, the two of them are connected because Voldemort has Harry's blood in him and Harry has a bit of Voldemort's soul in him. Then, they sealed this connection by dueling each other with brother wands. So Harry's wand recognized that its owner had a bit of the person who it tried to duel. The wand recognized both Harry and Voldemort's souls and fired off.


Michelle
QUOTE(davinci @ Jul 23 2007, 07:26 PM) *
Did we ever get a proper explanation of how Harry's wand was able to perform its own spell (the one with golden flames) during his first encounter with Voldemort? Ollivander didn't know and I don't remember if Dumbledore explained it.


I'm not sure if it was a proper explanation, but it was an educated guess by Dumbledore... and he is THE man. :P It was in the King's Cross chapter. I would suggest re-reading that chapter about 4 times you guys... very, very slowly.


QUOTE(SayBloodyMary @ Jul 23 2007, 09:13 PM) *
Oh, and Michelle, is that poem like, in the dedication or something? Because in that case, the one in the British version was different... I really liked the dedication, as a side note... it was sweet.


No, it wasn't. It was simply a poem another HP fan remembered from a funeral he went to and thought it may have some connection to the last words of the book. ^_^

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Oh, and JKR has said that she might write an encyclopedia about the whole magical world that should answer a ton of questions. :D :D
davinci
I forgot about Scrimgeour's death. I loathed him in HP6 but it was touching to know that he didn't give up Harry's whereabouts and tragic that he was killed for it.
nosylilme
^ Oh yeah! I forgot about his death too! I guess it was because of all the other deaths and the fact I didn't like him. I agree with you about the whole not giving up Harry's whereabouts thing. It made me think he was somewhat decent. tongue.gif
stephinika
QUOTE(Michelle @ Jul 23 2007, 08:14 PM) *
Oh, and JKR has said that she might write an encyclopedia about the whole magical world that should answer a ton of questions. :D :D

That would be so exciting. And yes, this is definitely a re-readable book to slowly catch all the things missed the first time through. I re-read the last 100-200 pages again already. tongue.gif
Rachel
The epi. leaves me wondering; what are their respective jobs? I mean, how does one go from "the boy who lived" to a normal life? How is George coping without Fred, let alone the rest of the Weasley's? I want more about Teddy, and how old is Bill & Fleur's daughter (Teddy is 19)? etc etc
Rachel
Eeeek, I'm hopin for closer to 17!
Rachel
Yes. Pretty sure.
ersatz
So wait, if Teddy's 19, wtf's he doing at Hogwarts Express?
blacknailpolish
He wasn't at Hogwarts Express to go to Hogwarts, he was just there seeing off his godbrothers...right? That makes the most sense, anyways.
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