Yeah, I'm misguided because ...
You're missing the main point of this entire thread. What you've failed to see was my subtitle, my safety net if you will. These are the movies I've listed as best movies ever(most entertaining, whatever), but my failsafe was when I wrote "In My Opinion at Least." Granted you clearly disagree with my opinion, which is fine, I love debating but also tire of it quickly when it obviously goes nowhere. This may sound like a cop-out(I don't like it any more than you do), but I completely disagree with practically everything you've said and vice-versa, so we've kind of reached a stale-mate. For the record, I never chose The Godfather because it was popular. I was 8 when I first saw this and barely knew what a classic movie was. I didn't even like it the first time I saw it, I thought it was boring, but tastes change and people change(I used to like COLD and Trust Company, what the f**k was I thinking?). Then I read the book and watched it again and grew to love it. The reason I like this movie so much and honestly believe it to be the best in the genre has absolutely nothing to do with public opinion. I am a fan of well-written, well-delivered dialogue(which is my main complaint with Kevin Smith movies, especially Clerks. Decent dialogue, poor delivery). Marlon Brando, I know almost none of his movies. I watched street car named desire and like I said, I found it boring and outdated. Same with Bogart, same with Heston, same with Hitchcock, I don't find them entertaining. Granted I do also appreciate the artistry in a movie, but it at least has to hold some interest which those movies did not. The Godfather did keep my interest for the same reason Reservoir Dogs, which is almost entirely dialogue, did. Great dialogue, great delivery. I have seen a good number of Al Pacino movies, though certainly not all of them and I honestly feel The Godfather was his best movie. Scarface I didn't much care for and really don't see what is so great about it. It is among the most overrated movies ever(again, In my Opinion), and shares that list with the Blair Witch Project, which though I'm sure you see as a crowning achievement in horror cinema, I found dull and pointless, and I'm definitely not the only one. But my main handicap has to be the fact that though I have seen my fair share of films, I dont make it a point to do so. That is to say, I don't put forth an effort to find movies that are classic and old and worthy of your goddamn stamp of approval because to be honest I really dont care. If it's good, I'll watch it, but Im not gonna watch something that does not entertain me just because everyone else says it's a classic and I should like it. If anyone is following public opinion, it's you my friend, though our publics seem to be very seperate. So how does my genuine opinion have anything at all to do with public opinion? Screw public opinion when they say movies like Spiderman and King Kong are groundbreaking achievements. f**k those movies, they were both horrible. One movie with horrible dialogue, horrible acting(even the good actors, what the f**k Dafoe?), cartoon effects, absolutley no f**king depth whatsoever(though of course it is for kids as well, so I'll let that slide), and the other a 3 1/2 hour long chase scene that grew tiresome 5 minutes into it. I guess one of the point's I'm making is that though I'm sure you don't believe so, I don't follow anyone's opinion but my own. The other point I'm trying to make is that I'm a fan of dialogue and delivery more than special effects.
Towards my Gladiator argument, I'll refer to what I said towards the top, we're all entitled to our opinion. Mine says that even though it had flaws, even though it was not historically accurate, it was still one of the most entertaining movies I've ever seen. And I'm definitely not alone in that way of thinking, other people in this same post have agreed with me. So Godfather and Gladiator aside, what other movies would you object to? Don't you dare f**kin say Escape from LA, I already explained that it was bad which was what made it so damn good.
P.S. Im not ignoring old movies because they're old, I've seen plenty of old ass movies from the early black and white, hitchcock, citizen kane era. My argument is that I find them very, very boring. Artistic? Sure. But soooo f**king boring.
