JerzDevil
Apr 9 2007, 09:15 PM
I truly believe if I had sex at this current age, god would send me to hell. I am christian, but i'm not trying to make this too of a religious issue. It's a life issue. I truly feel bad for the 14/15-year olds who has lost their virginity already. I call them dumbass losers because they've taken the wrong path in their life and their parents shouldve explained them better what to do and what not to do at certain times. Any intercourse, IMO is considered sex!! don't care if it's vaginal, oral, or extreme!!! i believe after you graduate high school is the perfect time to start that shit. i know kids my age who had sex with girls they weren't even bfs/gf's with which makes it sound more riduculous and stupid. that's what they claim. what do u guys think about this issue
WHIMSICAL 0NE
Apr 9 2007, 09:26 PM
QUOTE(Statistik @ Apr 9 2007, 9:15 PM)

I call them dumbass losers because they've taken the wrong path in their life and their parents shouldve explained them better what to do and what not to do at certain times.
I honestly don't think you have any right to judge them like that. You've decided what's best for you and they've decided what's best for them.
There's been other topics about this. I just don't think that young children are physically ready to have sex. I remember when I was in 8th grade and a 7th grader was pregnant. It really made me think.
shortnsweet88
Apr 9 2007, 10:20 PM
Yeah, I really wish you wouldnt have brought any christian reference to yourself at all right after using the word "dumbass". hmmm, yes...your name...statistik...fits you oh so well. You are one of the many that give christians a bad name and I suggest you take your close minded responses to these things and work on it a bit. As a "christian" you should have heard the scripture...Jesus himself said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". SO, I highly suggest you watch your mouth when it comes to this stuff...because, you WILL BE JUDGED...and it wont be by CB members it will be by God...of course you should know this as the amazing, wonderful, perfect Christian that you are :)
brownsugar
Apr 9 2007, 10:21 PM
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and you were making a point (KINDA) until you said, "After high school is the perfect time to start that shit"? Is that even any better?
You said you didn't want to make this into a religious issue, but you mentioned the fact that you were a Christian. I thought you were thinking more along the lines of no pre-marital sex, but I guess it's pre-college sex to you.
Anyway, I do agree 14/15 year old girls should just cool it but some of the things you said were kind of..strange.
animalinside
Apr 9 2007, 11:44 PM
okay mr. christian-racist, your post has already made you worse in God's eyes than the people that you're condemning, not to mention that your reasoning doesnt even stay consistent with the christian ideals. Ignorance is truly what makes this world so terrible.
P.S. I love your name
michellerrific
Apr 10 2007, 12:11 AM
QUOTE(Statistik @ Apr 9 2007, 7:15 PM)

I call them dumbass losers because they've taken the wrong path in their life and their parents shouldve explained them better what to do and what not to do at certain times.
Eh, I think you should kind of watch what you say right there. I know you're only voicing your opinion but that's a bit too strong of an insult.
It's not like someone is going to go around the world and stop all the 14/15 year olds from doing so, and these posts aren't going to change the world. It's their decision and well, you gotta live with it.
aznxdreamer
Apr 10 2007, 12:48 AM
you call yourself a christian but who are you to judge people? just because they might of made the mistake of losing their virginity at a young age doesnt make them bad people and it certainly doesnt give you the right to call them dumbasses.
im a christian and i believe that you will be forgiven for these kind of things, that's the whole point to christianity anyways: jesus died on the cross for our sins.
demolished
Apr 10 2007, 12:49 AM
Generally, teenagers arent responsible at this situation.
cupcakex
Apr 10 2007, 02:44 AM
QUOTE(Brilliance @ Apr 10 2007, 12:44 AM)

okay mr. christian-racist
He didn't say anything that was 'racist'.
And, I don't think he should be condemned for saying he's christian,
and voicing his opinions.
I don't think anyone should, actually.
I'm an athiest, so I don't get the point in all of you badgering him for saying it.
Regardless, I disagree with him 100%.
I don't think anyone should be able to tell a fourteen, or fifteen year old kid that they can't have sex, but someone who's sixteen, or seventeen can.
I'm just pro-choice, so anyone telling someone else what they should, or shouldn't do, is nonsense.
If it isn't you, statistik, why should it matter?
Monochrome.
Apr 10 2007, 03:15 AM
QUOTE(cupcakex @ Apr 10 2007, 7:44 AM)

He didn't say anything that was 'racist'.
Ah but my dear look at his archive posts and topics.all have derrogitive racial content in them.
Anyhoot.Jason i belive you were the one who claimed to recive oral and figure that you lost your virginity.
Therefore this entire thread is a pointless hypocritical rant.
God shall smite thou for being a dumbf**k.
cupcakex
Apr 10 2007, 03:22 AM
QUOTE(Monochrome. @ Apr 10 2007, 4:15 AM)

Ah but my dear look at his archive posts and topics.all have derrogitive racial content in them.
Thanks for letting me know that.
Based on this topic alone, he didn't say anything racist.
I apologize for not knowing about 'statistik'.
Monochrome.
Apr 10 2007, 03:30 AM
^I was actualy suprized he didnt have any racial put downs in this.But overall this is the main reason why alot of cbers have a hard time trying to show sympathy to him. he comes off being an ass because he lacks evidence to prove anything on his debate topics.his would be another topic added to the list of one sided support.
phoenixpyre
Apr 10 2007, 07:06 AM
You know what, if these KIDS are stupid/smart enough to have sex, I say let them. More than likely, their parents have said something to the impact of "don't have sex till marriage," but because they don't know how to say it, or because they are hypocrits, etc, the impact of the "lesson" is lost. It's really mostly a matter of your roots. I know that I probably have sex until I find someone that I can see myself spending the rest of my life with, because that's how I was raised, and it's been ingrained in my heart and brain.
Call me old fashioned, but that's because times are changing. Kids are having sex in high school, and some are turning out just fine. One of my good friends had sex when he was 13 and now he's a marketing director of some company in Albany and he's psychologically... fine.
In my opinion is that I wouldn't want MY kids to have sex that young, mostly for the fact that it CAN devestate them, and more than likely they wouldn't tell me if they do. I don't know it's just all a matter of opinion.
JerzDevil
Apr 10 2007, 01:09 PM
QUOTE(Monochrome. @ Apr 10 2007, 4:15 AM)

Ah but my dear look at his archive posts and topics.all have derrogitive racial content in them.
Anyhoot.Jason i belive you were the one who claimed to recive oral and figure that you lost your virginity.
Therefore this entire thread is a pointless hypocritical rant.
God shall smite thou for being a dumbf**k.
Haha go through all my posts, and tell me when I EVER claimed of recieving oral. I never had sex.
mistah-slickz
Apr 10 2007, 01:21 PM
QUOTE(Statistik @ Apr 9 2007, 9:15 PM)

I truly believe if I had sex at this current age, god would send me to hell. It's a life issue. I call them dumbass losers because they've taken the wrong path in their life and their parents shouldve explained them better what to do and what not to do at certain times.
LOL You're going to hell for going down the wrong path already buddy!
xcaitlinx
Apr 10 2007, 02:42 PM
omg you are so annoying with your stupid, opinionated topics. go awayyyy.
Frénésie
Apr 10 2007, 02:42 PM
Hahahaha. Your stupidity is amazing. You're extremely ignorant for your age, which is shocking.
You still don't get it; you ARE going to hell whether you have sex or not. I don't think the bible tolerates 'racism', correct me if I'm wrong.
You're a born bred idiot, you'll never change and it's a shame.
I feel sorry for your pathetic soul. Moron.
EmoEyelinerx
Apr 10 2007, 03:14 PM
You dont have the right to call people "dumbasses" because some of the 14/15 year olds may not know better. Some parents could care less and they might have never talked to their kids about having sex. Just because someone had sex at a young age also, doesent make them a bad person or in your case a "dumbass."
Monochrome.
Apr 10 2007, 03:18 PM
Then I apologize Jason.
I must have mistook that post as a way of saying you did recive head.
But either way you still have to respect a persons choice to when they decide they want to have sex.ts purely up to them.f they want to risk it all then fine f**k them.You dont need to worry about them.
swishersweet
Apr 10 2007, 04:47 PM
First of all I think this should be in the debate forum. He gives us his opionon and most of us sees this as a controversial issue..
Second of all you obviously don't listen during bible studies or service.
Third. who are you to judge anyone?
You think it's wrong for for kids aged of 14/15 to have sex but it's okay after highschool? All christians should have been taught to wait until marriage. Do some research son. Ask your parents.
suddenly she
Apr 10 2007, 05:55 PM
Bible story time.
So these Pharisee dudes found this woman being a ho and threw her a street and then everyone came around and was like WTF LET'S STONE HER
Then Jesus comes along and the Pharisee dudes are like zomg Jesus what do we do!
Then Jesus said "Let whoever among them was sinless should be the first stone at her."
-
You said you didn't want to make this a religious issue, but hello, you started the topic with religion... so that's what I'm going to reply with.
Does it really matter so much what sort of sin you commit? As far as I know, if you've got any sin at all, you're going to hell (hypothetically, if we were not forgiven and if we did not repent). If we all sinned once in the smallest way, we'd be sent to hell. There's no way that any of us are better than anyone else out there who's had premarital sex, so what right do any of us have to call anyone a "dumbass loser?"
Simba
Apr 10 2007, 06:10 PM
QUOTE(krn_kiddo254 @ Apr 10 2007, 5:47 PM)

First of all I think this should be in the debate forum. He gives us his opionon and most of us sees this as a controversial issue..
Right-O.
I suppose I might give my opinion on this a little later.
Moved to Debate.
mishyerr
Apr 10 2007, 06:22 PM
I understand where you're coming from about teenagers being too young to start having sex, but you have to realize that your morals cannot be everyone else's morals. My friend started having sex at the age of 14; her parents were from Sweden, and they didn't mind it at all. In fact, they started her on birth control at the age of 13 and reminded her to use condoms. It wasn't a huge deal to them.
I've heard this stereotype about how America condemns sex but favors violence, whereas Europe (mostly Western Europe) condemns violence and favors sex. Honestly, I think Europe's got the right idea. I'd much prefer a country where students had KNOWLEDGE about sex and did the right thing by their own morals rather than kids going around shooting people in school.
You're looking at sex as if it were 'sacred, holy intercourse.' Many do not view it this way. Random hookups happen because both are just looking for a fun time. People who can have one-night-stands usually don't reguard "sex" in the same way you do. Calling people who have sex in middle-school and high-school "dumbass losers" is not only ignorant, it just makes you misrepresent Christianity (like so many others.. -_-"). Your opinion does not give you the right to judge them for who they are. Them having sex does not affect you at all, unless you beg to hear about their little adventures. You should be open to them and tell them about the possible consequences.
Also, if you think that God will send you to hell for having sex at this age, you clearly have not read the Bible. God will forgive all who truly regret and ask for forgiveness. Sin does not have any measure; all sin is the same. You think that kids who have sex are 'dumbass losers' and sinners, but do you not realize every time you lie and cuss, you are on the same level as those 'dumbass losers'?
Yet again, I'd like to say I agree it is unwise to start having sex at such a young age, but there is nothing we can do about it as friends or acquaintances except to let them know the consequences and still accept them.
cori-catastrophe
Apr 10 2007, 06:28 PM
QUOTE(Frénésie @ Apr 10 2007, 3:42 PM)

Hahahaha. Your stupidity is amazing. You're extremely ignorant for your age, which is shocking.
You still don't get it; you ARE going to hell whether you have sex or not. I don't think the bible tolerates 'racism', correct me if I'm wrong.
You're a born bred idiot, you'll never change and it's a shame.
I feel sorry for your pathetic soul. Moron.
you are completely wrong. god forgives every sin exept for blasphemy.
QUOTE
Blasphemy is the defamation of the name of one or more gods.
in simple terms, knowing that god is real but denying his power.
you are correct in saying that god doesn't tolerate racism, but he doesn't tolerate judemental and assuming people either, as well as people who try to put others down by calling them things such as "a born bred idiot" and "a moron". correct me if i'm wrong.
JerzDevil
Apr 10 2007, 06:51 PM
QUOTE(Frénésie @ Apr 10 2007, 3:42 PM)

Hahahaha. Your stupidity is amazing. You're extremely ignorant for your age, which is shocking.
You still don't get it; you ARE going to hell whether you have sex or not. I don't think the bible tolerates 'racism', correct me if I'm wrong.
You're a born bred idiot, you'll never change and it's a shame.
I feel sorry for your pathetic soul. Moron.
Haha, I have my own opinion, and freedom of speech! And my argument is stupid? My parents would physically destroy me if they found out I had sex at this current age. I am not stupid to go for it, I like making the right choices. And that's what normal high schoolers should do if they got that brain. When did I say you'll automatically go down to hell if you have sex? I said, if I probably had sex AT THIS AGE, god would not appreciate that, and that'll just crush me spiritually and I'll be embarassed to even go to church. Well I am 100% Korean, 100% Christians, A lot of koreans (majority of them) are christians, and they should DEFINETELY KNOW that this is just horrible. And in what way I was being racist, homeboy? Re-read my post in this thread ... smh. I'm just trying to strongly define what's right and what's wrong ... not for me, but for everyone. Let's just come to a final conclusion that having sex at this age is wrong and stupid. We, at this age, are not ready for it. Sex Is a different level. That's level three. We have to get past the 2nd level before reaching the 3rd. We currently at a level before that. What level? A level where we just socially have fun, partying, hanging out, studying, going to school, playing sports and doing recreational activities. that basic "teen" thing. Why don't you guys never understand????
animalinside
Apr 10 2007, 07:10 PM
^ You are still the creator of many racist posts and topics, and please dont call me your homeboy, im not worthy...Ive read more than enough of your posts to make my assumptions
I dont really care what you claim you are, but i have a strong feeling that your spirit is more than demolished by now.
F.Y.I. maybe you should have a reality check once in your life...those people at your high school that you cry about prolly dont like you for a reason....and its prolly the same reason why many here have a problem with you..just saying though..but you prolly wont listen to me since you're not too used to doing that sort of thing anyway.
JerzDevil
Apr 10 2007, 07:21 PM
QUOTE(Brilliance @ Apr 10 2007, 8:10 PM)

^ You are still the creator of many racist posts and topics, and please dont call me your homeboy, im not worthy...Ive read more than enough of your posts to make my assumptions
I dont really care what you claim you are, but i have a strong feeling that your spirit is more than demolished by now.
F.Y.I. maybe you should have a reality check once in your life...those people at your high school that you cry about prolly dont like you for a reason....and its prolly the same reason why many here have a problem with you..just saying though..but you prolly wont listen to me since you're not too used to doing that sort of thing anyway.
Haha say whatever you want, what your saying isn't hurting me at all. I have a good soul, and a good spirit. And trust me, I understand teens are very tempted to have sex sometimes and they need that pleasure, but those who sacrifice it for the future are very good people and those are people God will truly love. And I'm sure I don't talk about people at my school that much ... and those people are most likely about 2 or 3. Not that many to take care of. But thanks for your wonderful contribution. I don't mind getting into problems on a internet forum.
swishersweet
Apr 10 2007, 07:55 PM
Hey kid... Did you read my post? Christians shouldn't have sex after marriage. GAWWWWW~!!!
JerzDevil
Apr 10 2007, 08:01 PM
QUOTE(krn_kiddo254 @ Apr 10 2007, 8:55 PM)

Hey kid... Did you read my post? Christians shouldn't have sex until marriage. GAWWWWW~!!!
That's my point exactly ... but sex in college is rather more not shocking than sex in high school ...
Simba
Apr 10 2007, 08:03 PM
QUOTE(Statistik @ Apr 10 2007, 9:01 PM)

That's my point exactly ... but sex in college is rather more not shocking than sex in high school ...
If the point is to not have premarital sex, then sex in college (without getting married) is just as bad as sex during high school.
elaboratedream
Apr 10 2007, 08:31 PM
I dont see what's wrong with a 14/15 yr old having sex.... much younger than that and yeah, I can see the problem.
It all depends on when the specific person is psychologically ready for it. Some 14 yr olds are. They understand risks completely, they know what they're getting themselves into, they're responsible about it, and they're ready for it emotionally.
I do understand that plenty aren't. It all depends the person.
You can't make generalizations about when it's okay for people to do those kinds of things. There are plenty of 18/19 yr olds who are less ready psychologically than some 14/15 yr olds.
bitesnkisses
Apr 10 2007, 08:47 PM
So, what's the difference between having sex in high school or college... isn't all sex before marriage wrong... isn't that waht "good christians" believe? So, aren't you contradicting yourself there? and I know people who are 18 and 19 that act like they're still freshman in high school.... if you're mature metally and you fully understnad the risks of having sex then you shouldn't judge them. You have no right to judge any one.
animalinside
Apr 10 2007, 08:59 PM
QUOTE(Statistik @ Apr 10 2007, 6:21 PM)

Haha say whatever you want, what your saying isn't hurting me at all. I have a good soul, and a good spirit. And trust me, I understand teens are very tempted to have sex sometimes and they need that pleasure, but those who sacrifice it for the future are very good people and those are people God will truly love. And I'm sure I don't talk about people at my school that much ... and those people are most likely about 2 or 3. Not that many to take care of. But thanks for your wonderful contribution. I don't mind getting into problems on a internet forum.
I find it quite sad that you actually think im attacking you, your actions towards these people on this internet forum are the same as taking actions on people in real life. Therefore, all your cursing, judging, etc. are just as bad as going out into real life and sexing up lots of people before marriage.
You really cant use religion to defend your views if you only use it as it suits you, that just makes you a hypocrite (which is also another sin). You may personally find yourself "holier" than the sexually active people, but honestly, you're the same in God's eyes as long as there's still sin within. You really need to learn more about what you're claiming before you start condemning people citing ungodliness. You're hurting yourself more than you think.
mishyerr
Apr 10 2007, 09:44 PM
QUOTE(bitesnkisses @ Apr 10 2007, 8:47 PM)

So, what's the difference between having sex in high school or college... isn't all sex before marriage wrong... isn't that waht "good christians" believe? So, aren't you contradicting yourself there? and I know people who are 18 and 19 that act like they're still freshman in high school.... if you're mature metally and you fully understnad the risks of having sex then you shouldn't judge them. You have no right to judge any one.
I'm not sure if s/he knows what s/he's talking about sometimes, haha.
AngryBaby
Apr 10 2007, 10:58 PM
so wait wait wait.........
if you and a hot and bothered christina milian were locked in a room together.............
michellerrific
Apr 10 2007, 11:12 PM
QUOTE(Statistik @ Apr 10 2007, 6:01 PM)

That's my point exactly ... but sex in college is rather more not shocking than sex in high school ...
Well if you're a believer of premarital sex, then doing it in college is just about the same as high school. You're only regarding the age differences but define premarital. It means before you are married. Not necessarily college unless you're married by then.
suddenly she
Apr 11 2007, 02:36 AM
QUOTE(Statistik @ Apr 10 2007, 7:21 PM)

Haha say whatever you want, what your saying isn't hurting me at all. I have a good soul, and a good spirit. And trust me, I understand teens are very tempted to have sex sometimes and they need that pleasure, but those who sacrifice it for the future are very good people and those are people God will truly love. And I'm sure I don't talk about people at my school that much ... and those people are most likely about 2 or 3. Not that many to take care of. But thanks for your wonderful contribution. I don't mind getting into problems on a internet forum.
Go back to John 3:16, just the very beginning. "For God so loved the world..."
World means
everyone, regardless of your religion or lack of a religion, regardless of your spirituality or lack of spirituality. Nothing you do is going to make God love you less or more, nor does God love anyone else more than He loves you. If He loves, then that's the end of it. There is no *truly* loves. You're special, but you're not
that special.-
Jason, before you claim you're good again, go look up the word humility, and not just in the dictionary. If you claim to be Christian, you go by the definitions of the Bible as well.
swishersweet
Apr 11 2007, 05:32 PM
In your very first post it says
quote
"i believe after you graduate high school is the perfect time to start that shit."
You believe that's the perfect time to start having that shit? But yet you agree with the Christian teaching of having sex after marriage at the same time too?
Come on son give me a break.
Frénésie
Apr 11 2007, 05:56 PM
Hazadrous, I don't exactly believe in God, so I could care less about what he wants. Don't preach to me, preach to your so-called 'brethren' who thinks he KNOWS everything and is 100 % sinful. Of course you won't do that, instead you choose to 'correct' me and 'preach' to me which makes YOU an idiot. Typical Christians.
Jason, SHUT THE HELL UP. Christianity my a-ss. I am not a Christian. Stop imposing your religion beliefs on people. We don't give a shit.
If people choose to have sex at a certain age (no matter how young they are), you are in NO position to judge them as long as you're not related. Even then, you shouldn't pass witty judgements.
Calling people stupid for not seeing things you Christians should see is IDIOTIC.
You have no right whatsoever to talk about it. It's called RESPECT, you thick head.
If you want to remain a virgin till you get married, good for you. But you should know that there are people who won't, there are people who aren't part of your 'family'. F-ck, this is stupid.
swishersweet
Apr 11 2007, 06:10 PM
This should be closed.
Simba
Apr 11 2007, 07:27 PM
QUOTE(krn_kiddo254 @ Apr 11 2007, 7:10 PM)

This should be closed.
Why do you think so?
kimmytree
Apr 11 2007, 07:51 PM
QUOTE
I truly believe if I had sex at this current age, god would send me to hell.
Are you kidding me? So everyone at your age who has had sex is automatically damned?

I'm not saying its okay to have sex at an early age. I agree with you on waiting till at least after high school. But for you to say a person is DAMNED over it? sheeesh.
Are you not aware that in biblical times, and even as late as a hundred - two hundred years ago that women werent getting married at the ages they are now? Somtimes girls were married off as early as 12. So are they damned too? Where in the Bible are you getting your information... or is this something you came up with on your own?
kimmytree
Apr 11 2007, 08:02 PM
QUOTE(suddenly she @ Apr 11 2007, 3:36 AM)

Go back to John 3:16, just the very beginning. "For God so loved the world..."
World means everyone, regardless of your religion or lack of a religion, regardless of your spirituality or lack of spirituality. Nothing you do is going to make God love you less or more, nor does God love anyone else more than He loves you. If He loves, then that's the end of it. There is no *truly* loves. You're special, but you're not that special.
OMG thank youuuu.

That's exactly what God would say.
It's so ignorant that people believe you have to conform to a certain religion and be a certain kind of person to escape from burning in hell.
suddenly she
Apr 11 2007, 08:27 PM
QUOTE(kimmytree @ Apr 11 2007, 8:02 PM)

That's exactly what God would say.
It's so ignorant that people believe you have to conform to a certain religion and be a certain kind of person to escape from burning in hell.
Ahh, blasphemous!

I'm sure God is much more profound than I am.

Thanks though.
Anyway, I think someone needs to clarify the exact discussion point of this thread so we won't have people like me bursting open the doors de la thread and overturning tables of Jason, sin, and wickedness when this wasn't meant to have religious content at all... no offense to Jason intended, and I sincerely apologize in advance if you take it badly.
not-so-subtle allusion to Jesus overturning the merchant tables in the temple.
Frénésie
Apr 12 2007, 03:31 AM
Euh, excuse me but this WAS meant to have religion contents.
In fact, Jason was the first person to mention 'God' and 'Christianity' so I don't exactly see what you're trying to get at.
MrStrife
Apr 12 2007, 11:00 AM
My friend's little 14 year old brother (actually he looks more like 18) has a kid and so does my 16 year old cousin. It doesn't change the way I look and/or think about them because I'm not one to judge and most importantly I'm their friend. It's their life and they made their choice even if things will get much harder.
alysaphobia
Apr 13 2007, 04:56 AM
I've been thinking about this a while.
I don't think sex is a definite wrong or right thing.
It's kind of simply based on your opinion, no? Plus your religious beliefs and morals.
My opinion: I don't think 14/15 year olds having sex is exactly appropriate. But it's just my opinion. If somebody had sex at a young age, I would probably judge them upon a first impression but it wouldn't affect my views about them substantitally, unless they were totally irresponsible and blatantly having random sex or whatever.
andriaalazing
Apr 13 2007, 02:44 PM
Are people at that age even mentally ready for that sort of thing? Mentally, and physically? It sort of just seems wrong to me. They are still kids and why would kids even want to do something like that.
Simba
Apr 13 2007, 03:29 PM
QUOTE(&/degradanca. @ Apr 13 2007, 5:56 AM)

I've been thinking about this a while.
I don't think sex is a definite wrong or right thing.
Sex, actually, is supposed to be a very sacred unity.
Though, it's obviously been horribly watered down.
I Viddy Horrorshow
Apr 13 2007, 05:30 PM
Their bodies, their choices.
Throw 'em a condom to stop the chlamydia and let them have at it if they want to.
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