xcaitlinx
May 5 2005, 06:52 PM
im currently reading "Go Ask Alice" (which is a true diary about a 15-year-old teen that's on drugs...pleasant, right?) and "Cut" (about someone that...cuts. even more pleasant)
i seem to be drawn to books about teenagers with common problems. especially diaries. even though i don't (and never will) do drugs, alcohol, or smoke...it still intrigues me. my friend was the one that has been buying books like this, including others like "The perks of being a Wallflower" and "Crank". She lets me borrow them after she reads them...and i love them.
Have you read any of these books or ones similar to them?
william
May 5 2005, 06:55 PM
i've read the perks of being a wallflower and i'm buying the f**k up (which is kind of similar) as soon as i finish what i'm reading now. i've seen cut and go ask alice before (the girls in my class are obsessed) but never felt compelled to read them.
mona lisa
May 5 2005, 06:58 PM
I've read Go Ask Alice a while ago. I really like the story. If you like diary-like stories and people with problems, you can look at books by V.C. Andrews, although you may not like some of them. Most books have teens as the protagonist, and they have very weird and extreme problems. Read to your own discretion.
lilliannnn
May 6 2005, 06:10 PM
i've read cut. i absolutely love it. if you haven't read it yet DO IT.
lidoxangie
May 6 2005, 06:12 PM
G0 ASK ALiCE is my favorite book . i could it read over and over again and never get bored .
x LUV x ALWAYS x
May 6 2005, 08:19 PM
ive never heard of cut, and one of my friends named Alice was once reading Go Ask Alice. (not supposed to be funny, but i thought it was kind of an interesting coincidence.)
sweet_devil
May 9 2005, 07:13 AM
i've read go ask alice, it was a good book, but depressing...
loljuliana
May 10 2005, 06:13 PM
wow, i've heard of "go ask alice" before. my boyfriend said the book "Jay's Journal" was also a good book about a boy who does drugs etc.
Azarel
Jan 14 2006, 05:01 AM
Ooh, I know this is an old topic but those books are from the publisher Push, if I remember correctly. I liked Crank by Ellen Hopkins. Go Ask Alice by Anonymous was (obviously) very real, but I wasn't as fond of it. And I didn't like Cut by Patricia McCormick; I thought it was kind of stupid.
Another book written in the style of Crank is Jinx by Margaret Wild; it's one of my favorites. Also, other PUSH novels that I've read (off of the top of my head) that you may like are Tomorrow, Maybe by Brian James (I really like this one), Pure Sunshine by Brian James, Kerosene by Chris Wooding, & Fighting Ruben Wolfe by Markus Zusak.
-> Entertainment, since it's book discussion? Maybe?
Does anybody else read Push poetry books?
mzkandi
Jan 14 2006, 05:03 AM
Moved to Entertainment
sw33t_rouge
Jan 14 2006, 05:06 AM
i read the A-List does that count..?
Retrogressive
Jan 14 2006, 05:31 AM
Cut by Patricia McCormick... hmm, I did a monologue from it. But over all, it seemed like a huge cliche of "teen cutters". I wouldn't suggest it to anyone.
Woah Azeral, I'm a HUGE Push fan. I love Chris Wooding, I've read most of his writing (published by PUSH and otherwise). I loved Born Confused, Crash, Kerosene... I've read almost all of PUSH's publications.
Saeglopur
Jan 14 2006, 10:20 AM
Yeah. I think I'll pick up Go Ask Alice soon. Since I've been meaning to read it.
misoshiru
Jan 14 2006, 11:00 AM
i've never read these books, but i have indeed read other ones about drugs, suicide, or the course of going through withdrawal.
omgah_itsmaggiex
Jan 14 2006, 05:34 PM
i read cut. it really wasnt that great.
xcaitlinx
Jan 14 2006, 08:49 PM
Woaaah...old topic. haha i don't even remember creating it. hmm..right now i'm reading "you don't know me" and it's really really good.
Chii
Jan 14 2006, 10:22 PM
QUOTE(mona lisa @ May 5 2005, 6:58 PM)
I've read Go Ask Alice a while ago. I really like the story. If you like diary-like stories and people with problems, you can look at books by V.C. Andrews, although you may not like some of them. Most books have teens as the protagonist, and they have very weird and extreme problems. Read to your own discretion.
those VC Andrews books are so sick and twisted...i love them though
i read Go Ask Alice but i kind of forget what it was about, i did read this other book about this girl who was fooling around with her teacher. Cut failed to hold my interest.
Azarel
Jan 14 2006, 11:55 PM
QUOTE(xcaitlinx @ Jan 14 2006, 5:49 PM)
Woaaah...old topic. haha i don't even remember creating it. hmm..right now i'm reading "you don't know me" and it's really really good.
You Don't Know Me by David Klass? I read that about two years ago. It was one of my favorites at the time.
QUOTE(Chii @ Jan 14 2006, 7:22 PM)
those VC Andrews books are so sick and twisted...i love them though
i read Go Ask Alice but i kind of forget what it was about, i did read this other book about this girl who was fooling around with her teacher. Cut failed to hold my interest. I think I read that novel a while ago, too. It wasn't that great.
Midnight Faerie
Jan 15 2006, 12:36 AM
QUOTE(Azarel @ Jan 14 2006, 10:55 PM)
You Don't Know Me by David Klass? I read that about two years ago. It was one of my favorites at the time.
I read that in the sixth grade and fell in love. Amazing book.
Another great book is Speak by Laura Halse Anderson. 
Oh, and I've read Cut as well. Some parts bored me a little; I skipped through a bit of the book. I thought it was okay.
NoSex
Jan 15 2006, 05:47 PM
I'm sitting here and listening to White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane. Great song. Grace Slick, the lead singer of Jefferson Airplane, conceived of the song when reading Lewis Carrol's classic novel Alice in Wonderland. She believed, in the subtext, that there were strong references to drugs and drug use. So, the song was written and published. It became Jefferson Airplane's most popular song.
Four years after the release of White Rabbit the novel Go Ask Alice was published for the first time in 1971. Go Ask Alice was published under the author "Anonymous." On the cover, below the title, it reads, "A Real Diary." With further inspection into the book, we are told that this is the true diary of a 15 year teenage girl. This is the true story of her spiral into a life of drug abuse, sexual immorality, prostitution, and ultimately death. The title of this highly provocative book taking itself from the song White Rabbit.
"Go ask Alice
When she's ten feet tall"
The song seems, very much, to describe an acid or LSD trip. It's a production of late 60's psychedelic-counter-culture-rock. Why is this the inspiration for the title of this book? Sure, the book relates to such themes, but not in the same manner White Rabbit does. White Rabbit seems to glorify and make romantic the idea of using mind-altering drugs. Go Ask Alice demonizes these things. So, why the connection?
The answer to this question can be found in trying to understand the origin of the book Go Ask Alice. As the book purports, it's origin is in reality. It is, essentially, a copy of this poor unnamed girl's diary. However, despite being placed in the teen's non-fiction section, Go Ask Alice is a fabrication. A fraud. One that has deceived and fooled audiences for over 30 years.
Flash back to the early 1970's. We are in the psychedelic era of rock. We have entered into the final stretch of the "We Generation" mentality. In this "hippie" counter-culture hallucinogen use was king. The moral panic created by this era is rather uniform. Students are bombarded with anti-drug, pro-religion, anti-sex, and anti-rock messages. All from honest, kind, and caring parents and authorities who know best. And, apparently, lie well.
Most, if not all, hysteria was born out of ignorance. The idea was that psychedelic rock would brainwash your child into a pot-smoking, LSD trippin', hippie loser. Instead of educating and speaking of the true dangers of drug use to an entire generation of youth, our society felt more comfortable hiding away in a fabricated reality of drugs and rock-music-influence. "True stories" of the horrible effects of drugs run rampant. Church officials predict that the "End is near." Parents shit themselves.
There was, and still is, a real danger in drug use. But, it was much easier to control with fear-inducing fabrications. It's a lot easier to follow, rather than lead. A great majority of the American people were stuck, and have been stuck, in a moral panic and "War against drugs."
Of all the anti-drug messages, Go Ask Alice has survived beyond; The book even fighting blind moral panic itself, not for its dubious authorship, but for its graphic content. Today, Go Ask Alice is still required reading in many youth circles and it is taken very seriously.
But, if its origins are a lie. If it is not the true diary of a 15 year old girl, who wrote it? That question is not so easily answered. However, Clues to this answer began to surface nearly eight years after the release of Go Ask Alice. In promotional material for another "real teen diary", Jay's Journal, a Beatrice Sparks is credited as the editor of Go Ask Alice. Later that same year, in an interview, Beatrice Sparks would admit that the story, despite there being a "real" 'Alice', was partially inspired by similar cases. She went on to say that the subject the book was based on did not die of a drug overdose, rather, she died of unknown causes. When asked to produce original transcripts from the actual diary, Sparks informs her interviewer that these pages were destroyed or have otherwise been lost in the publisher's locked vault. Conveniently, of course.
Doubts begin to surface. The journalists of America can uncover highly confidential government scandals, but fail to find a single person connected with the young girl in Go Ask Alice. The book is structured and written much like a drama, however, the imagination stretches when picturing a 15 year old girl behind the pen writing a personal diary. But, controversy explodes when Beatrice, now recognized editor of both Jay's Journal and Go Ask Alice is blasted by the family of suicide victim Alden Barrett.
Unknown to the public, Beatrice, after gaining some popularity for supporting the publishing and promotion of Go Ask Alice, had been contacted by Marcella Barrett, mother of recently deceased Alden Barrett. Mrs. Barrett was under the impression that Beatrice could get her son's story out to the world. A healing process could then begin. Beatrice would fulfill Mrs. Barretts wishes. Beatrice Sparks had been given Alden's journal by the family and his story was to be told.
Alden Barrett was a young teenage boy. His mother and family were members of the Church of the Latter Day Saints. He was a curious young man who questioned his family's faith often sympathizing with eastern religion. He had fallen in-love with a young girl, but was a tad bit inept in social interaction. Being denied requited love, and facing a possible broken home, Alden ended his life in 1971 with a self-inflicted gun shot to the head. His story was published both eight years after his death and the release of Go Ask Alice. The book was titled Jays Journal: The shocking diary of a 16-year-old helplessly drawn into a world of witchcraft and evil
With the release of the book came the outrage of Alden's family. They accused Sparks of fabricating almost entirely the story. Passages involving satanism, a falling away from the Mormon church, drug abuse, sadism, ritual animal cruelty and sacrifice described an unrecognizable Alden. The characters in Jay's Journal were unknown to Alden's close friends and family. The community, outraged and insulted, produced a play in Alden's memory detailing the sensational fraud and embellishment committed by Beatrice Sparks. Alden's brother Scott would later published a book entitled, A Place in the Sun: The Truth Behind Jay's Journal. The Barrett family would be tested, and suffer many hardships.
Jay's Journal, just as Go Ask Alice, is still promoted as the true diary of a young teenager. Beatrice Sparks has been a life-long Mormon. She has claimed and described, with vagueness, her work and relation with adolescents as a youth counselor in the church. When reading Go Ask Alice, Jay's Journal, or any other of the countless "By an Anonymous Teenager" diaries released with Beatrice Sparks as "editor" it becomes obvious that these are cautionary tales with religious fundamental themes.
The parents are always right, plot devices increase sympathetic attitudes, bad companions draw victims, drugs always lead to more immoral and deviant pleasures, broken homes breed evil homes, sex is to be saved for marriage alone, and death is a guarantee unless you heed these warnings.
Beatrice Sparks isn't presenting true diaries of unfortunate teenagers, she is promoting her fundamentalist values through fabrications, and making lots of money doing it. It's called 'Go Ask Alice' because Sparks hates psychedelic bands like Jefferson Airplane. Sparks wants to connect the death of a once innocent, and forgiving christian girl to the songs of popular rock artists. In her small naive world, Jefferson Airplane is the true source of all the world's ills.
I absolutely despise Go Ask Alice.
ParanoidAndroid
Jan 15 2006, 05:49 PM
^ummm, wtf?
I have a whole shelf on those kinds of books... and that Go ask Alice thing is one of them
The_AZN_Godfather
Jan 15 2006, 05:53 PM
I read Go Ask Alice recently.
My teacher was all like, "Go Ask Alice is a stupid book about a teen on drugs. Cussing, etc."
Then I ask for the book from her library and she's all like:
sm0kinm0nky
Jan 15 2006, 06:30 PM
I read Go Ask Alice, it's quite amazing
Next year we're required to read The Perks Of Being a Wallflower
NoSex
Jan 15 2006, 07:12 PM
Did no one read my post?
Crich323
Feb 7 2006, 07:15 PM
I've read cut and I liked it also. I think the fact that the book is written in diary form makes the book more personal and real. I'll try to read the Alice book soon.
Saeglopur
Feb 7 2006, 07:26 PM
QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Jan 15 2006, 8:12 PM)
Did no one read my post?

Yeah. I did. It's similar to A Million Little Pieces.. by it being a fraud. (Well well, isn't it about drugs too?) But yeah.
rainbowish
Feb 8 2006, 01:48 AM
I have read "Go Ask Alice". Its one of the best boooks I have ever read. Actually can read it multiple times. Great Book.
fainaru
Feb 11 2006, 09:02 PM
go ask alice was something i wanted to read on my list for a long time and i read it in gr8. it was quite the book and i found it very interesting ^^ hehehe. yeah i really into those suicidal, druggy, rape, disorders, relationship related books.
lil_chubby_cheeks2
Feb 12 2006, 07:25 PM
im in the middle [(sorta)] of go ask alice, its a realy good book.
NoSex
Feb 12 2006, 09:50 PM
QUOTE(lil_chubby_cheeks2 @ Feb 12 2006, 7:25 PM)
im in the middle [(sorta)] of go ask alice, its a realy good book. as
f;asfhasfasha! Nop ot's not stop it!
Saeglopur
Feb 12 2006, 10:25 PM
If Go Ask Alice was real, the teen has a good vocabulary....
and um, yeah. There were stuff that seemed surreal about the teen. Like.. who goes to the library to check out the drugs they just did? Blah.
NoSex
Feb 13 2006, 12:37 AM
QUOTE(Days Nearly Over @ Feb 12 2006, 10:25 PM)
If Go Ask Alice was real, the teen has a good vocabulary....
and um, yeah. There were stuff that seemed surreal about the teen. Like.. who goes to the library to check out the drugs they just did? Blah.
More like, who spends extended periods of time writing a vivid description of those drugs that they just took as opposed to spending more time on writing about your crush and other gossip oriented teenage things.
Simply by reading it, we should be able to tell that it isn't real.
Vocab, yeah. Heh heh.
Krisaweanie
Feb 13 2006, 02:46 AM
i've read cut. pretty short book. i remember hating the ending
liloandstitchx3
Feb 16 2006, 01:56 AM
I've only read Go Ask Alice.
subway
Feb 16 2006, 05:36 PM
i read jay's journal which is ...i dont know what you call it.... in the same series with go ask alice. the book wasnt as good as go ask alice but it was a good book and i suggest you read it if you 'enjoyed' go ask alice.
xmkaex
Feb 16 2006, 06:20 PM
my friend read that book before...she told me about it and i thoguht it was pretty interesting
LuvsDogs387
Feb 16 2006, 07:29 PM
I read "Go Ask Alice" for health class. It was interesting. Very sad ending tho. There is even a song about this book. I remember the lyrics "you can't go ask Alice anymore" being in it. Which makes the book even sadder.
krispy_kreme333
Feb 16 2006, 07:54 PM
I've read both Go Ask Alice and Cut. they were both very good. I started to read jays Journal, but I lost intrest in it.
NoSex
Feb 16 2006, 11:14 PM
QUOTE(LuvsDogs387 @ Feb 16 2006, 7:29 PM)
I read "Go Ask Alice" for health class.
The hell would you read that in health class for?
LuvsDogs387
Feb 16 2006, 11:44 PM
QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Feb 16 2006, 8:14 PM)
The hell would you read that in health class for?
Well that was in 9th grade and I'm a Freshman in college now so my mind is a bit rusty. But I think it was for something like, what kind of destruction can happen to a person by doing drugs.
NoSex
Feb 17 2006, 06:15 PM
QUOTE(LuvsDogs387 @ Feb 16 2006, 10:44 PM)

Well that was in 9th grade and I'm a Freshman in college now so my mind is a bit rusty. But I think it was for something like, what kind of destruction can happen to a person by doing drugs.
Yeah. Too bad the book is a lie, huh?
HappyHeart
Mar 20 2006, 10:50 PM
I've read Go Ask Alice a few months ago, and it was pretty interesting. I thought the ending was freaky because after her life was back to normal, she was found dead. It still confuses me.
faded23
Mar 20 2006, 11:02 PM
no matter what anyone says i absolutely love these books! They are some of my favorites and are also the kind of books I'm drawn too.
EDIT
Just because we read your post (which i didn't, just skimmed <being honest>) doesn't mean you changed our minds. You don't have that much of a power over us. Get over yourself.
NoSex
Mar 21 2006, 11:28 AM
QUOTE(faded23 @ Mar 20 2006, 10:02 PM)

Just because we read your post (which i didn't, just skimmed <being honest>) doesn't mean you changed our minds. You don't have that much of a power over us. Get over yourself.
I didn't think
I had power of you; I thought reason might have.

Plus, no one can change anyones mind. Ultimately, only and individual can make that personal choice.
Also, you didn't even read the post. So...?
I mean, you might
want to read it if you're gonna snap back like this. Maybe if you did read it, you
might change your mind. And, at the same time, you may not even understand what I am saying because you havn't read the argument.
But...
Yeah, you're right. I shouldn't have assumed that you might have been reasonable and rational individuals that are capable of being pliable and intellectualy honest.
Yeah, you're right. Despite overwhelming evidence, it is the
true diary of a 15 year old girl! And it's sooooooo good! So good!

QUOTE(faded23 @ Mar 20 2006, 10:02 PM)

no matter what anyone says i absolutely love these books! They are some of my favorites and are also the kind of books I'm drawn too.
Also, you may be a bit biased. Just maybe.
Saeglopur
Mar 22 2006, 04:47 PM
Haha, in the beginning of the book (in small print, mind you.) It even states that the book is fiction.
I'm just saying. x)
`SWTWiNKLE3YES
Mar 23 2006, 06:06 PM
Go ask Alice is awesome <3333 its my favorite book and So B. It
Aldensbro
Mar 31 2006, 01:09 PM
Just logged into this blog. Thanks for being at least intrested.
My brother, Alden Barrett did leave a journal recounting the last 6 months of his life, along with poems, letters, a red Frisbee, a fringed-leather "stash pouch", and a few other items.
Beatrice Sparks did use 21 entries from Alden's journal to write "Jay's Journal". She fabricated 80% of "Jay's Journal", including any satanic rituals, cattle mutiation, drinking or bathing in blood, killing cats rituistically, levitating kitchen utensils, etc., which leads me to believe that her other works, such as "Go Ask Alice" were ficitionalized as well. On comparing "Jay's Journal" and "Go ask Alice" side by side, you can see the obvious writing style similarities. if you would like to see a copy of Alden's original journal you need to read my book, "a Place in the Sun: The Truth Behind Jay's Journal. Write me at apits_71@hotmail.com for more information.
NoSex
Mar 31 2006, 05:52 PM
QUOTE(Aldensbro @ Mar 31 2006, 12:09 PM)

Just logged into this blog. Thanks for being at least intrested.
My brother, Alden Barrett did leave a journal recounting the last 6 months of his life, along with poems, letters, a red Frisbee, a fringed-leather "stash pouch", and a few other items.
Beatrice Sparks did use 21 entries from Alden's journal to write "Jay's Journal". She fabricated 80% of "Jay's Journal", including any satanic rituals, cattle mutiation, drinking or bathing in blood, killing cats rituistically, levitating kitchen utensils, etc., which leads me to believe that her other works, such as "Go Ask Alice" were ficitionalized as well. On comparing "Jay's Journal" and "Go ask Alice" side by side, you can see the obvious writing style similarities. if you would like to see a copy of Alden's original journal you need to read my book, "a Place in the Sun: The Truth Behind Jay's Journal. Write me at apits_71@hotmail.com for more information.
Wow. This is interesting.
Did you read my post on the first page?
tanichick
Mar 31 2006, 07:30 PM
I've never heard of either
Aldensbro
Mar 31 2006, 07:36 PM
ABS,
Yes I did read it. Thank you for taking the time to do some intelligent research.
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