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They said that Jesus's Tomb is found!

heres the link where i got my information from liiinnkkk

i've found it hard to bealive.

A documentary about it will be showin this Sunday, March 4 in Discovery Channel

I think this should be moved to the News section, No?

Anyways, that's cool. I wonder what they're going to discover in there.

Man I was surprised today to find this topic non-existent over at the New section, but here it is now, eh.

Moved to News

Ooh my mom was telling about this.
And it could overthrow Christian beliefs with this family tree and Jesus' descendants thing.
It now means that Dan Brown is jumping up and down for joy.

And Santa Clause sprouted wings and flew to Neverland with Tinkerbell.


Sure.


I just can't really believe this. Mainly because it's a guy from Hollywood who is probably on the prowl to score a buck.

Are you serious dude?

I don't if you're being sarcastic or just plain you don't bealive it. They're going to show the Documentary at Discovery Channel this Sunday. I couldn't bealive it either!!!

I personally don't see why this would be so hard to believe. I know there's a bunch of Christians on panic though.

It doesn't even necessarily mean that Christians were about what had happened, but rather misinterpreted what had happened at the time. Which is exactly what I think, but I'll get to that later.

You know what this means right? This means Dan Brown's book, allegedly written as "Fiction" is really HISTORICAL FICTION! :O

Oh my gosh. Oh how I wonder how much money people are going to make from this. Oish.

Christian & Catholics are most likely to be affected.

btw, im Catholic.

Haha, I find this hard to believe, but that woman they talked to (at the very bottom of the article) is pretty clever. It probably WOULD drive the housing prices up.

Well, obviously.

And I still find it hard to believe. If it's true then uhh, okay, I guess. I'm really mellow about this since it wouldn't affect me.

If it's true, then it's amazing and I can't wait to see what else they find.
If it's not and turns out to be some other tomb, well...I don't know.

Haha, I agree.

I don't really find it all that believable. I suppose I would have to pay more attention to it and see what happens with it.

Hmm. What evidence led them to this conclusion? What DNA tests? Weren't there were no tissues found to actually test? A bunch of similar names doesn't mean the family was actually Jesus'.

I agree with Cameron on one point: "Let the debate begin." :P I'm curious to see the documentary though.

It doesnt matter. They dont have proof that this is actually the "Jesus" from the bible.

About the family, someone probably made it up. it's possible to fool the DNA in some undetected ways.

This is bull shit. That is what I think.

It doesn't look believable at all.
I don't think we will ever find his tomb.

Interesting, nonetheless.

and jews! dont forget the jews!

Are Jewish a group of reglious people? 0___0

I'll reserve my judgement until I see the documentary (which may very well never happen, but who knows) but so far, the whole thing seems more of an advertising campaign to endorse another piece of christian pseudo-science for people to buy rather than a real archeological investigation.

This looks interesting but how would they prove it using DNA?

This discovery is not that great. "Jesus" and "Mary" were two very common first names during Christ's time. There's no way of knowing which Jesus and Mary are buried in that particular tomb. It's sort of like if Christ lived on earth now, and his name had been "John" or "William" or something, and 2000 years from now archaeologists were to find a grave marked "John", it would prove nothing, because there are countless Johns about.

Jesus Christ was not married (that's all a farse), and his body will never be found.

it's not true.. i think.
jesus NEVER got married in his life OR had a son
he was NOT buried along with mary. he was buried by himself.
& jesus was an only child.

that picture was the tomb?
i thought jesus was buried in like a cave or something and they used a stone to cover the cave.. uhhh..

i'm not gonna believe this

A very common argument I keep hearing... Makes sense, but the argument's still not a very strong one. With all the names found together, it'd be hard for it to be just a coincidence.
And to be honest, this is probably just my lack of knowledge, but what evidence would you use to prove that Jesus never got married?
And then the story goes that he rose to heaven right? Did it say that it was his physical body that rose to heaven though?

the bible?

Eh. You seem a little unsure.

Anyone a little more knowledgeable about that?

Because I'm getting the message that the only reason people deny Jesus ever got married (and had a child) because he was "too pure" to do so.

Well, my point is that I just wouldn't leave out that his actual physical body could have been left behind. I guess that's only assuming one would know that there's more to a person than the material body though.

well the bible didn't say anything about Jesus getting married,
it just tells stories about Jesus, and how Jesus died, and how he went to heaven.
if that picture is supposed to be the tomb, ehh..
i seriously thought Jesus died in some kind of cave thing where they covered it with a stone though
I mean, Jesus wasn't buried in that thing [the rock box thing in the picture]
i'm pretty sure he wasn't

I think the story goes that he was in a cave where it was covered with a stone, and then he was resurrected and his body was no longer found there. And then he rose to heaven.

What makes you think that he couldn't possibly have been buried in such a thing though?

it looks really small to be a tomb =/
and it has a square cover thing?
and its shaped like a square?
i'm not sure 2 people can fit there ...

^ hmm..

wait, but how are they sure that mary was buried there?
i mean she could've been buried in a different tomb with somebody else. that wasn't Jesus.

They're not completely sure. They're actually just going by the names on the tombs, I think. But it's because of all of the names that were all there together that makes it possibly the tombs of Mary and Jesus's son.

Oh god, honestly. that's just the stupidest thing i've ever heard of.
There were countless Jesus's and Marys during that time.
It wasn't an uncommon name.
That's just a bad call from the beginning

Yeah right.

This is like people who claim to see the Virgin Mary in subways and marks on walls.

I bet it was some other person named Jesus. It's not a very uncommon name.

So pigs took flight and I ended up watching it. At the light of new evidence, I am forced to retract my previous statement where I labeled the documentary "a piece of christian pseudo-science".

The word science was totally out of place. It's just a piece of christian pseudo-fanfic, actually. Only instead of reading about it in a crappy website we got to see it on TV. Duh.

A burial place was unearthed in 1980 in one of Jerusalem's suburbs during some construction works in an industrial park. The archeologist Amos Kloner then started to investigate the findings, but he has never claimed to have found the tomb of any biblical character since there's no evidence to support such a premise.

Year is now 2007. James Cameron and Simcha Jacobovici disregard 27 years of investigation and produce a movie with lots of scientists in it that use flashy gear and say the acronym DNA every 5 minutes to prove that said tomb was indeed Jesus & Co. final resting place.

However, all they do confirm is that the human remains found in the tombs are ... human, and approximately 2000 years old. The names were already successfully translated in the late 1990s, by the way. So all in all, nothing new has been discovered, and the hypothesis of the Tomb of Jesus is still a mere unproven theory.

Then the documentary ends, and you realize James Cameron has made you piss away about an hour of your life (around 6 if you have watched Titanic).

I actually watched the documentary...

but i got really bored and fell asleep.

i'm still pretty skeptical.

i dont think it is but hey I dont know that much.

Finding Jesus' tomb is like winning a lottery, so you know it has to be the tomb.

omg that is so cool
but are they positively sure its Jesus's tomb??

There hasn't been a scientific confirmation for such claim yet despite the documentary's title suggesting otherwise. It's better to take it as speculative work for now, in the best of cases.

Nonsense.

this isn't a new discovery, this tomb was found in the 80s. Cameron is just making a documentary on it.

I'm pretty skeptical; there have been forgeries in the past. Plus the timing is very suspect.

Yeah that was found quite sometime ago. I believe it's true though

i watched the documentry and it was very interesting. part of me thinks it's true really thinks it's true. the evidence they showed were really.. not hard to believe. they're still sort of in doubt though so i'm just confused. xP I'm not religious or anything so it doesn't concern me really.

wow thats so cool.

hmm, i wish i would have caught the documentary. i wonder if it's actually factual. ehh. it was a while back though...hmm i don't know...mixed feelings about this at this point. lol.

you know,
if they find his bones,
then he's not god.
not to offend people,
but the bible did say that jesus rose from the dead.
and uhm, they found the tomb earlier, but they had to
video and record everything to say stuff.

and scientists are saying that
james,joseph,moses, and

blahblah(i forgot) are his brothers
and mary is his wife o_o;;


you'll find alot of interesting theories from this,
but some lady from the discovery channel
was like... "you don't have permission to see these tombs."
so they sealed them up again.

bleh. :/

and they were SOOOO close !
i'm agnostic, so i'm interested in every jesus stuff hahah.

xxx





and that can be true too.
he's got a point.xxx