brundleswat
Feb 8 2007, 11:56 PM
It's sad, but if Barack Obama wins the next presidential election, he will not be alive for very long. I'm not saying I want this, not at all. In fact I hope I'm wrong. Nothing would make me happier than to have a Black Democrat President. The problem is that he is in fact Black and there are many hate groups in America that will never stand for this and will do whatever it takes to eradicate any threat to the White Male Chauvinist. I guess Hilary will have to watch out as well, but I don't care about her.
Think about our history:
Abraham Lincoln - Freed Slaves - ASSASSINATED
John F. Kennedy - Help Develop the Civil Rights Act of 1964- ASSASSINATED
Martin Luther King Jr. - Fought for Equality - ASSASSINATED
Malcolm X - Fought for Equality - ASSASSINATED
If you only want for a Black man to be in the White House, no matter how short his life is while there, then by all means vote for him.
If you value the life of a Human being, please vote for Rudy Giuliani
HakunaMatata
Feb 9 2007, 12:11 AM
Pardon my French, but how the hell is this news?
Was W.E.B. DuBois assassinated? Booker T. Washington?
PM me explaining how this is news if you want this re-opened.
iDecay
Feb 9 2007, 12:24 AM
Re-opened and moved to Debate.
Hmm, I really have no say in this because I have NO idea what's going on in politics. Though I did do a summary on Giuliani about like... 5 minutes ago.
brundleswat
Feb 9 2007, 01:26 AM
It's news because he could potentially be our first Black president and our nation has a history of discouraging Black advancement(I mean in politics and "back of the bus" type shit. Don't turn this into another "Why are blacks so damn lazy" post).
silly ol' man
Feb 9 2007, 01:51 AM
You're taking a lot of events in history that have different factors/circumstances leading up to them and trying to apply them to a 21st century scenery -- and that's a huge mistake. It's still only in the stages of happenstance that Barack Obama will be chosen as the Democratic nomination for the presidency, let alone win the whole enchilada, so let's calm down before we start claiming that our maybe-perhaps-president-in-two-years is going to be shot, okay?
No more A + B + C = Z arguments, thanks.
kimmytree
Feb 9 2007, 05:51 PM
Are you serious? Its 2007. Yeah, there are still some wacko racists out there, but I doubt anything would happen... I think Bush would have a bigger risk of being assasinated than Obama.
WHIMSICAL 0NE
Feb 10 2007, 12:29 AM
Erm, this is kinda dumb.
disco infiltrator
Feb 10 2007, 04:04 PM
^ I actually think the both of them are more probable than a Republican winner at this point, but that's another argument entirely.
I think it's pretty unlikely that anyone will assassinate Barack Obama. The people that you mentioned were killed for very specific reasons, mostly because they were orchestrating huge amounts of change in a country that is used to traditionalism and familiarity. All of those people were in the midst of revolutions of thought. Mr. Obama is not.
I Shot JFK
Feb 10 2007, 04:08 PM
QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Feb 9 2007, 4:56 AM)

It's sad, but if Barack Obama wins the next presidential election, he will not be alive for very long. I'm not saying I want this, not at all. In fact I hope I'm wrong. Nothing would make me happier than to have a Black Democrat President. The problem is that he is in fact Black and there are many hate groups in America that will never stand for this and will do whatever it takes to eradicate any threat to the White Male Chauvinist. I guess Hilary will have to watch out as well, but I don't care about her.
Think about our history:
Abraham Lincoln - Freed Slaves - ASSASSINATED
John F. Kennedy - Help Develop the Civil Rights Act of 1964- ASSASSINATED
Martin Luther King Jr. - Fought for Equality - ASSASSINATED
Malcolm X - Fought for Equality - ASSASSINATED
If you only want for a Black man to be in the White House, no matter how short his life is while there, then by all means vote for him.
If you value the life of a Human being, please vote for Rudy Giuliani
Because Mitt Romney is what, a small potato? Why Giuliani?
But yea... There are plenty of people who hate George Bush. But he hasn't been assasinated. And like Sammi said, there were circumstances which provoked the above assasinations. Not JUST race. If Obama were to be assasinated, then presumably it would be as a result of policy, not race.
disco infiltrator
Feb 10 2007, 04:12 PM
P.S., Hilary isn't completely terrible either, and if anyone's really worried about Obama being assassinated, they should vote for her. Obama's just wayyyyy cooler.
Kontroll
Feb 10 2007, 07:16 PM
QUOTE(happykmd @ Feb 9 2007, 5:51 PM)

Are you serious? Its 2007. Yeah, there are still some wacko racists out there, but I doubt anything would happen... I think Bush would have a bigger risk of being assasinated than Obama.
Are you serious? All the other countries love us because we hate our president. So, I doubt they will try and kill us because they'll be waiting to see which one of us does it first...
Secondly, I think that everyone here in America for the most part is a tree huggin' hippie who doesn't believe in killing. So, is safer than if he was on the endangered species list.
Booyakasha....Next.
I'm gonna kill Obama. Not because he's black, but because he's democrat. I hate democrats...I'll make Hilary do it so that I won't be the one to blame. HAHAHAHAHA. Sort of like in Saw.
kimmytree
Feb 10 2007, 08:27 PM
^ What do you mean by hippie? If you mean for the environment, then yeah, a majority of Americans seem to be. But tree huggers? Um no.
Are you kidding me? Why do you hate democrats? So seeing that you arent a democrat, I'm assuming your a republican.
disco infiltrator
Feb 10 2007, 09:47 PM
You're making fun of him for hating Democrats, but you're rolling your eyes at the fact that he's a Republican. If you want to act all smart, it would be better to be more mature about it and not make fun of anyone for familiarizing themselves with a certain political party as long as they have fact and reason to back up their thoughts on how the country should be run.
kryogenix
Feb 11 2007, 12:31 AM
I hope it doesn't happen either, because I hope he doesn't win. Seriously, every time I ask someone why they like Obama so much, they can't really name a reason other than "well he's really popular." There was so much hype about him winning the race even before he decided to run. I don't think he stands a chance. It'll be hilarious watching him and Hilary ripping into each other during the primaries.
disco infiltrator
Feb 11 2007, 09:53 AM
People probably support him because they relate to his opinions on the policies of the country. At least, that's my reason. He was against the War in Iraq from the beginning, he supports the choice to an abortion, he supports homosexual marriage, he doesn't want to privatize healthcare, etc. etc. He's also incredibly intelligent and there's nothing that attracts me more to a person than intelligence.
kimmytree
Feb 11 2007, 11:28 AM
QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Feb 10 2007, 9:47 PM)

You're making fun of him for hating Democrats, but you're rolling your eyes at the fact that he's a Republican. If you want to act all smart, it would be better to be more mature about it and not make fun of anyone for familiarizing themselves with a certain political party as long as they have fact and reason to back up their thoughts on how the country should be run.
No, I was "rolling my eyes" over him saying that he hated democrats. I think its screwed up to hate someone just because you disagree with them. I'm a democrat, but I surely dont hate republicans. Yeah, I disagree with them, but I definately dont hate them for it.

And I most definately was not trying to act smart by making fun of him for his political opinions.
kryogenix
Feb 11 2007, 11:53 AM
QUOTE(happykmd @ Feb 11 2007, 11:28 AM)

No, I was "rolling my eyes" over him saying that he hated democrats. I think its screwed up to hate someone just because you disagree with them. I'm a democrat, but I surely dont hate republicans. Yeah, I disagree with them, but I definately dont hate them for it.

And I most definately was not trying to act smart by making fun of him for his political opinions.
You're not even a registered voter... how can you be a democrat already?
ahahaha wikipedia
kimmytree
Feb 11 2007, 12:15 PM
^ Actually, I'm old enough to register, at least in my state. You can register 6 months before your 18th birthday.
I just consider myself to be more of a democrat... and plan on registering as a democrat. Why does it matter?
Blaqheartedstar
Feb 11 2007, 01:20 PM
QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Feb 8 2007, 11:56 PM)

- It's sad, but if Barack Obama wins the next presidential election, he will not be alive for very long.
- I guess Hilary will have to watch out as well, but I don't care about her.
- If you value the life of a Human being, please vote for Rudy Giuliani
It's sad, but if Barack Obama wins the next presidential election, he will not be alive for very long. think of the year today 2007, do u honestly believe that he will die? look where bush has led this country and no one has bothered or come close to ending his life, i honestly believe that his life will not end ubruptly because of his race, and his choice to run for office
I guess Hilary will have to watch out as well, but I don't care about her.wrong way to word that, and offensive... if u care that Obama's life will end because of the color of his skin then why not Clinton?
If you value the life of a Human being, please vote for Rudy Giulianiseems bias of you to mention such... people have a choice to vote for who ever they want, and who ever wins will be under the protection that the current president is receiving
kryogenix
Feb 11 2007, 01:23 PM
If you value the life of a human being, you'd vote for a pro life candidate.
Blaqheartedstar
Feb 11 2007, 01:25 PM
how bout the state of the country?
and the lives being taken away to a war which now has no value... what is the real reason as to why we are still in this war?
disco infiltrator
Feb 11 2007, 01:41 PM
Or as to why we got in it in the first place? 
But I digress, and so do you guys. Back on topic!
kimmytree
Feb 11 2007, 02:00 PM
QUOTE
If you value the life of a Human being, please vote for Rudy Giuliani
Hmm, thats funny... last I heard he was for partial birth abortion. So much for that.
chasingvictory
Feb 20 2007, 06:18 PM
no matter what people say, i'm a republican!!!

And I'm gonna vote for rudy than any democrat...

well... i dont know about Obama getting killed for being black but it could happen..
kimmytree
Feb 20 2007, 07:13 PM
^ So you vote strictly Republican then? Reguardless of what their views are?
hi-C
Feb 20 2007, 07:27 PM
QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Feb 9 2007, 4:56 AM)

Malcolm X - Fought for Equality - ASSASSINATED
Malcolm got killed by his own people, and it wasn't because he "fought for equality"; he "turned traitor."
- - -
I personally don't think Barack will win in 2008; I don't even think he'll win the primary. He just doesn't have enough experience. If by some happy circumstance he does win, I don't think he'll be assassinated.
kimmytree
Feb 20 2007, 08:09 PM
^ That's true, I think chances are Hilary will win the primary... mostly due to having more money... which really isnt fair.
chasingvictory
Feb 21 2007, 03:43 PM
QUOTE(happykmd @ Feb 20 2007, 7:13 PM)

^ So you vote strictly Republican then? Reguardless of what their views are?

well majority of the time republicans have conservative views... that is why majority of the time i favor republicans.. its just a matter of my opinion
silly ol' man
Mar 5 2007, 08:47 PM
QUOTE(happykmd @ Feb 11 2007, 1:00 PM)

Hmm, thats funny... last I heard he was for partial birth abortion. So much for that.

You are vastly mistaken.
Stuckie
Mar 6 2007, 03:06 AM
I seriously doubt anyone is gonna assassinate Obama. There will be a lot of people who dont like him and will protest, but no one will go so far as to kill him.
kimmytree
Mar 6 2007, 04:17 PM
QUOTE(silly ol' man @ Mar 5 2007, 8:47 PM)

You are vastly mistaken.
Are you serious? He's for a woman's right to choose, I know that for sure. I'll try to find a link to where I read about him being for partial birth.
blucheri
Mar 6 2007, 07:25 PM
2 of the people mentioned weren't presidents. And I'm not going to lie. I'm kind of scared for him too. But lets hope for the best. And at least give it a try. Maybe America isn't as racist as we think it still is.
Joss-eh-lime
Mar 13 2007, 08:27 PM
QUOTE(happykmd @ Feb 9 2007, 2:51 PM)

Are you serious? Its 2007. Yeah, there are still some wacko racists out there, but I doubt anything would happen... I think Bush would have a bigger risk of being assasinated than Obama.
are
you serious?
oh its 2007!
racism has no effect on politics these days!
we're all treated equally! only "wacko" racists want to bring him down!
no.there is a high chance he would be assasinated
and many people would agree with that [think about the end movie
Head of State]
I'm sure he's worried about it too, but if he even become president that will be a huge step for our country
kimmytree
Mar 14 2007, 04:46 PM
I never said race never has any effects on politics. It does.
He very well could be at risk for being assasinated, but I dont think he would be any more likely than a white person. Just like there are racist white people, there are black ones who are racist against whites. I dont think either one would be stupid enough this day and age to attempt to assasinate someone due to their race unless they were mentally unstable. 50 years ago it would have been ALOT easier. But today? No, I dont think so. I think any mentally sane person would realize that if they even attempted it, they'd most likely fail, and end up rotting in jail for it. The chances of someone succeeding at it are slim to nothing.
Look at how many people hate Bush. Not because of his race, but for what he's done so far during his presidency. Over 60% of his own country disagrees with him, and most of the world hates him. So many people I'm sure would LOVE to kill him, but no one's been successful at getting close enough yet. And when you just look at Obama's race, I'm sure far less people are going to hate him around the world. So how would he stand a better chance than Bush of being assasinated?
Kontroll
Mar 15 2007, 08:36 AM
Haha, if Dubya's not dead, I think Obama will be fine.
I can almost guarantee that most people you walk up to and ask them what is the first thing that pops into their head when you say George W. Bush it will be 'Evil, stupid, dumb, hill billy, idiotic, and Texas.'
Ha ha.
kimmytree
Mar 15 2007, 04:11 PM
^ Hehe.
Not that I want Bush dead, but I still cant believe no one's tried yet.
Luciadus
Mar 16 2007, 12:29 PM
QUOTE(happykmd @ Mar 15 2007, 5:11 PM)

^ Hehe.
Not that I want Bush dead, but I still cant believe no one's tried yet.
Are you dumb? Many people have tried to kill Geroge W. They all get stopped and arrested. Though I'm only talking from opinion and not fact, I think that they don't publicise these actions because they don't want people trying to imitate them. Plus most people who decide to assassinate the president talk about it a lot before they actually do it, so it's not exactly hard to know which people want to kill him.
http://english.pravda.ru/accidents/21/96/383/15835_Bush.htmlThis is a story of a guy who threw a grenade into a crowd of people with George W. Bush in it. There are more examples than this, but I'll use this one because it was the first one I saw.
kimmytree
Mar 16 2007, 12:39 PM
^Thats true, I'm sure alot of people have tried... but I meant how no one's come very close. Was it Bush senior who actually got shot? Or maybe it was someone else. I meant something happening like that.
Thats probably true though, they dont want civilians knowing about it. I guess sensing the media would end up sending people in a panic mode?
sweetangel2128
Mar 18 2007, 03:57 AM
QUOTE(happykmd @ Mar 16 2007, 10:39 AM)

^Thats true, I'm sure alot of people have tried... but I meant how no one's come very close. Was it Bush senior who actually got shot? Or maybe it was someone else. I meant something happening like that.
Thats probably true though, they dont want civilians knowing about it. I guess sensing the media would end up sending people in a panic mode?
John FK was shot and killed.
kimmytree
Mar 18 2007, 10:44 AM
^ Yeah, I remember that. Several presidents have been assasinated. But I thought since then, there's been a president that was shot, but wasnt seriously injured.
kryogenix
Mar 23 2007, 08:34 PM
Reagan was shot.
kimmytree
Mar 23 2007, 08:43 PM
^ Ahhh okay thanks. Yeah that's who it was.
fameONE
Mar 25 2007, 09:55 PM
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 23 2007, 7:34 PM)

Reagan was shot.
Too bad it didn't kill the sombitch.
Obama will be fine unless someone ALLOWS it to happen. With security today, things of that nature only happen if its planned from the inside out.
medic
Mar 27 2007, 11:17 PM
I have read every Barack Obama book, I have went to 11 Barack Obama speeches, and I have had him sign one of my books. I am pretty sure I hope he wins, and I am pretty sure he will. His popularity is astounding. No other presidential candidate right now gets the crowds, the support, and the website hits as Barack Obama. I watch when he gives public outdoor speeches and the amount of people that show up is amazing. Take it from the Illinois point of view, he won by a LAND SLIDE here, and he will do so when it comes to the Presidential Election. If you are just not wanting him to win because of his supporters not knowing why they like him, I am sorry you feel that way. You should learn a little yourself.....
I also hate it when people say it would be awesome for him to be the first black president. All I have to say is color doesnt matter, so shut the **** up and actually vote on what you believe in.
kimmytree
Mar 28 2007, 03:47 PM
^ So he's even better in person? Man, I'd love to meet him.
WickedDreamer
Mar 29 2007, 12:11 AM
So, forgive me, cause math isn't my strongest subject and I'm doing a little math here... so... if my great grandmother didn't go to college and my grandmother didn't go to college and my mom didn't go to college... that means I won't go to college?
Is that your logic here?

Just because something happens once or twice doesn't mean it will happen again. Things have changed a lot in the past few decades. Or have you not been paying attention?
fameONE
Mar 29 2007, 08:20 PM
QUOTE(medic @ Mar 27 2007, 10:17 PM)

I have read every Barack Obama book, I have went to 11 Barack Obama speeches, and I have had him sign one of my books. I am pretty sure I hope he wins, and I am pretty sure he will. His popularity is astounding. No other presidential candidate right now gets the crowds, the support, and the website hits as Barack Obama. I watch when he gives public outdoor speeches and the amount of people that show up is amazing. Take it from the Illinois point of view, he won by a LAND SLIDE here, and he will do so when it comes to the Presidential Election. If you are just not wanting him to win because of his supporters not knowing why they like him, I am sorry you feel that way. You should learn a little yourself.....
I also hate it when people say it would be awesome for him to be the first black president. All I have to say is color doesnt matter, so shut the **** up and actually vote on what you believe in.
Lucky bastard.
The troops love the guy.
yrrnotelekktric
Apr 2 2007, 10:35 PM
I don`t know whether or not Barack will win, but if he does, I do get the feeling that he will get assassinated, or that there will be attempts.
andriaalazing
Apr 12 2007, 08:51 PM
I just really really hope something so terrible doesn't happen.
ryfitaDF
Apr 13 2007, 08:17 PM
i think america is ready for a black president. i mean we just had a retarded one.
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