Why do people worship this insane psychopath?

Got this list off some random site.

(In order) SAB, Brick Testament/ Number Killed/ Cummulative Total

God drowns everyone on earth (except Noah and his family) Genesis 7:23, BT 30,000,000? 30,000,000
God rains fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah, killing everyone. Gen.19:24, BT 1000? 30,001,000
Lot's wife for looking back Gen.19:26, BT 1 30,001,001
Er who was "wicked in the sight of the Lord" Gen.38:7, BT 1 30,001,002
Onan for spilling his seed Gen.38:10, BT 1 30,001,003
7th Egyptian Plague: Hail Exodus 9:25, BT 30,000? 30,031,003
God kills every Egyptian firstborn child. Ex.12:29-30, BT 500,000? 30,531,003
God drowns Egyptian army Ex.14:28, BT 1000? 30,532,003
God and Moses help Joshua kill the Amalekites Ex.17:13, BT 1000? 30,533,003
For dancing naked around Aaron's golden calf Ex.32:27-28, 35, BT 3000 30,536,003
Aaron's sons for offering strange fire before the Lord Lev.10:1-3, Num.3:4, 26:61, BT 2 30,536,005
A blasphemer Lev.24:10-23, BT 1 30,536,006
God burned to death an unknown number for complaining Numbers 11:1, BT 100? 30,536,106
God sent "a very great plague" for complaining about the food. Num.11:33, BT 10,000? 30,546,106
God killed those who murmured with a plague. Num.14:35-36, BT 100? 30,546,206
A man who picked up sticks on the Sabbath Num.15:32-36, BT 1 30,546,207
Korah, Dathan, and Abiram (and their families) Num.16:27, BT 12+ 30,546,219
Burned to death for offering incense Num.16:35, 26:10, BT 250 30,546,469
For complaining Num.16:49, BT 14,700 30,561,169
Massacre of the Aradites Num.21:1-3, BT 3000? 30,564,169
For complaining about the lack of food and water, God sent fiery serpents to bite the people, and many of them died. Num.21:6, BT 100? 30,564,269
God delivers the Bashanites into Moses' hands and Moses kills everyone "until there was none left alive." Num.21:34-35, BT 1000? 30,565,269
For "committing whoredom with the daughters of Moab" Num.25:9, BT 24,000 30,589,269
Midianite massacre (32,000 virgins were kept alive) Num.31:1-35, BT 90,000+ 30,679,269
The slaughter of the Anakim, the childen of Esau, and the Horim Deuteronomy 2:21-22 5000? 30,684,269

God hardened the king of Heshbon's heart so that the Israelites could massacre his people. (included several cities) Dt.2:33-34, BT 3000? 30,687,269
God delievered the king of Bashan so that the Israelites could massacre his people. Dt.3:3-6 60,000? 30,747,269
Massacre of Jericho Joshua 6:21, BT 1000? 30,748,269
God tells Joshua to stoned to death Achan (and his family) for taking the accursed thing. Joshua 7:10-12, 24-26, BT 5+ 30,748,274
God tells Joshua to attack Ai and do what he did to Jericho (kill everyone). Joshua 8:1-25, BT 12,000 30,760,274
God slaughters the Amorites and even chases them "along the way" as they try to escape. Joshua 10:10-11, BT 1000? 30,761,274
Joshua kills 5 kings and hangs their dead bodies on trees Joshua 10:24-26, BT 5 30,761,279
Massacre of 7 cities Joshua 10:28-42, BT 7000? 30,768,279
God delivers the Hazorites. Joshua 11:8-12, BT 1000? 30,769,279
Massacre of the Anakim Joshua 11:20-21, BT 1000? 30,770,279
God delivered Canaanites and Perizzites Judges 1:4, BT 10,000 30,780,279
Ehud delivers a message from God: a knife into the king's belly Jg.3:15-22, BT 1 30,780,280
God delivered Moabites Jg.3:28-29, BT 10,000 30,790,280
Massacre of the Canaanites Jg.4:15, BT 1000? 30,791,280
God forces Midianite soldiers to kill each other. Jg.7:2-22, 8:10, BT 120,000 30,911,280
God delivered the Ammonites to Jephthah to slaughter. Jg.11:32-33, BT 1000? 30,912,280
The Spirit of the Lord comes on Samson Jg.14:19, BT 30 30,912,310
The Spirit of the Lord comes mightily on Samson Jg.15:14-15, BT 1000 30,913,310
Samson's God-assisted act of terrorism Jg.16:27-30, BT 3000 30,916,310
"The Lord smote Benjamin" Jg.20:35-37, BT 25,100 30,941,410
More Benjamites Jg.20:44-46 25,000 30,966,410
For looking into the ark of the Lord 1 Sam.6:19, BT 50,070 31,016,480
God delivered Philistines 1 Sam.14:12, BT 20 31,016,500
God forces the Philistine soldiers to kill each other. 1 Sam.14:20, BT 1000? 31,017,500
God orders Saul to kill every Amalekite man, women, and child. 1 Sam.15:2-3, BT 1000? 31,018,500
Samuel (at God's command) hacks Agag to death 1 Sam.15:32-33, BT 1 31,018,501
God delivers the Philistines. 1 Sam.23:2-5 1000? 31,019,501
"The Lord smote Nabal." 1 Sam.25:38 1 31,019,502
God delivers the Philistines to David (again). 2 Sam.5:19, 25 1000? 31,020,502
Uzzah for trying to keep the ark from falling 2 Sam.6:6-7, 1 Chr.13:9-10 1 31,020,503
David and Bathsheba's baby boy 2 Samuel 12:14-18 1 31,020,504
God sent a three-year famine because of something Saul did. 2 Sam.21:1 5000? 31,025,504
Seven sons of Saul hung up before the Lord 2 Sam.21:6-9 7 31,025,511
From plague as punishment for David's census (men only; probably 200,000 if including women and children) 2 Sam.24:13, 1 Chr.21:7 70,000+ 31,095,511
A prophet for believing another prophet's lie 1 Kg.13:1-24 1 31,095,512
Baasha killed everyone in the house of Jeroboam "according to the saying of the Lord." 1 Kings 15:29 1000? 31,096,512
Zimri killed everyone in the house of Baasha "according to the word of the Lord." 1 Kg.16:11-12 1000? 31,097,512
God delivers the Syrians into the Israelites' hands 1 Kg.20:28-29 100,000 31,197,512
God makes a wall fall on Syrian soldiers 1 Kg.20:30 27,000 31,224,512
God sent a lion to eat a man for not killing a prophet 1 Kg.20:35-36 1 31,224,513
Ahaziah is killed for talking to the wrong god. 2 Kings 1:2-4, 17, 2 Chr.22:7-9 1 31,224,514
Burned to death by God 2 Kg.1:9-12 102 31,224,616
God sends two bears to kill children for making fun of Elisha's bald head 2 Kg.2:23-24 42 31,224,658
Trampled to death for disbelieving Elijah 2 Kg.7:17-20 1 31,224,659
God calls for a seven year famine. 2 Kg.8:1 10,000? 31,234,659
Jezebel 2 Kg.9:33-37 1 31,234,660
God sent lions to kill "some" foreigners 2 Kg.17:25-26 3+ 31,234,663
Sleeping Assyrian soldiers 2 Kg.19:35, 2 Chr.32:21, Is.37:36 185,000 31,419,663
Saul 1 Chronicles 10:14 1 31,419,664
God delivers Israel into the hands of Judah 2 Chronicles 13:15-17 500,000 31,919,664
Jeroboam 2 Chr.13:20 1 31,919,665
"The Lord smote the Ethiopians." 2 Chr.14:9-14 1,000,000 32,919,665
God kills Jehoram by making his bowels fall out 2 Chr.21:14-19 1 32,919,666
God delivered the Israelites into the hand of the Chaldeans. 2 Chr.36:16-17 1000? 32,920,666
Ezekiel's wife Ezekiel 24:15-18 1 32,920,667
Ananias and Sapphira Acts 5:1-10 2 32,920,669
Herod Acts 12:23, BT 1 32,920,670



Satan just killed 10 people lol.
God killed Millions of men, women, and children.

Crazy world we live in where most people worship sick things like god.

I'm not entirely sure what it is that you want anyone to Debate with this... can you clarify what the debate is about, please?

If not, then I'll go ahead an close this.

Looks like anti-theist proselytizing, with little to no content to debate about at first sight.

I like how on the seventh day god created the population census, though.

Agreed.

Actually, I'll close this now, and if the creator sees a reason why it should be reopened, then he may PM me.

-Topic Closed-

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Following a PM conversation:

-Topic Reopened and Moved to The Lounge-

God drowns everyone on earth (except Noah and his family) Genesis 7:23, BT 30,000,000? 30,000,000
Genesis 6:5-6 NOw the Lord observed the extent of peoples wickedness, and he saw that all their thoughts were consistently and totally evil. SO the lord was sorry he ever made them. It broke his heart
God rains fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah, killing everyone. Gen.19:24, BT 1000? 30,001,000
Genesis 18:26 And the Lord replied "If I find fifty innocent people in SOdom, I will spare entire city for their sake"
Lot's wife for looking back Gen.19:26, BT 1 30,001,001
How do you know God did that?
Er who was "wicked in the sight of the Lord" Gen.38:7, BT 1 30,001,002
He was wicked, you have to think that all of this is pre-Jesus, who died for us thus making us exempt of Gods judgement.
Onan for spilling his seed Gen.38:10, BT 1 30,001,003
If you read the start of the passage it says "But the Lord considered it a wicked thing for Onan to deny a child to his dead brother"
7th Egyptian Plague: Hail Exodus 9:25, BT 30,000? 30,031,003
He did that because the Egyptians did not let the Isrealites go.
God kills every Egyptian firstborn child. Ex.12:29-30, BT 500,000? 30,531,003
Same reason as above because the Pharoah still did let the Israelites go free.
God drowns Egyptian army Ex.14:28, BT 1000? 30,532,003
Because the Pharoah let the Israelites go and then he changed his mind and went after them. Exodus 14:4 I have planned this so I will recieve great glory at the expense of Pharaoh and his armies. After this, the Egyptians will know that I am Lord.
God and Moses help Joshua kill the Amalekites Ex.17:13, BT 1000? 30,533,003
Amalek is a type of the flesh, this provides a great reminder of the day when the sinful nature will be no more. Our full salvation purchased for us at the cross involves a new body. That which is corruptible shall put on the incorruptible. That which is mortal shall put on immortality. No more selfishness, no more sinfulness, no more Amalek! All traces of Amalek blotted out! What a day that will be.
For dancing naked around Aaron's golden calf Ex.32:27-28, 35, BT 3000 30,536,003
Becausethe 1st comandment says "You shall have no other gods before me."
Aaron's sons for offering strange fire before the Lord Lev.10:1-3, Num.3:4, 26:61, BT 2 30,536,005
They disobeyed God by not properly making the fire as God had specified
A blasphemer Lev.24:10-23, BT 1 30,536,006
The third commandment says You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.
God burned to death an unknown number for complaining Numbers 11:1, BT 100? 30,536,106
What the cause of this complaining was, we know not. The conjecture of St. Jerome is probable; they complained because of the length of the way. But surely no people had ever less cause for murmuring; they had God among them, and miracles of goodness were continually wrought in their behalf.It displeased the Lord] For his extraordinary kindness was lost on such an ungrateful and rebellious people. And his anger was kindled - Divine justice was necessarily incensed against such inexcusable conduct.
God sent "a very great plague" for complaining about the food. Num.11:33, BT 10,000? 30,546,106
Becuse the people were never happy with what the Lord had given them, they complained when they were taken out of slavery, complained when God gave the Manna, food of the heavens, now theyre complaining about the meat God had given them
God killed those who murmured with a plague. Num.14:35-36, BT 100? 30,546,206
Like I said before, why are people complaining after God had done so much for them?
A man who picked up sticks on the Sabbath Num.15:32-36, BT 1 30,546,207
On the Last day God rested and ordered us to do so.
Korah, Dathan, and Abiram (and their families) Num.16:27, BT 12+ 30,546,219
Number 16:26 says that themen were wicked, and that by their death by God was because God despised them.
Burned to death for offering incense Num.16:35, 26:10, BT 250 30,546,469
If you read Numbers16:36 They didnt die
For complaining Num.16:49, BT 14,700 30,561,169
Why complain about everthying good God has done?
Massacre of the Aradites Num.21:1-3, BT 3000? 30,564,169
Because they attaked first.
For complaining about the lack of food and water, God sent fiery serpents to bite the people, and many of them died. Num.21:6, BT 100? 30,564,269
Again, why are they complianing?
God delivers the Bashanites into Moses' hands and Moses kills everyone "until there was none left alive." Num.21:34-35, BT 1000? 30,565,269
They attacked the Israelites first
For "committing whoredom with the daughters of Moab" Num.25:9, BT 24,000 30,589,269
Because they commted sin by having sex outside of marriage and worshiping other Gods
Midianite massacre (32,000 virgins were kept alive) Num.31:1-35, BT 90,000+ 30,679,269
They lead the Israelites to idoltary
The slaughter of the Anakim, the childen of Esau, and the Horim Deuteronomy 2:21-22 5000? 30,684,269
He was helping those who served him, this not really sure there is more research to be done
God hardened the king of Heshbon's heart so that the Israelites could massacre his people. (included several cities) Dt.2:33-34, BT 3000? 30,687,269
Again he did this to furhter his Kingdom on Earth
God delievered the king of Bashan so that the Israelites could massacre his people. Dt.3:3-6 60,000? 30,747,269
read above
Massacre of Jericho Joshua 6:21, BT 1000? 30,748,269
This I admit I;m not sure, I will ask my pastor.
God tells Joshua to stoned to death Achan (and his family) for taking the accursed thing. Joshua 7:10-12, 24-26, BT 5+ 30,748,274
Achan stole Gods Tithe and he has also lied to him about it.
God tells Joshua to attack Ai and do what he did to Jericho (kill everyone). Joshua 8:1-25, BT 12,000 30,760,274
Ahhh this like the above I'm not sure but I will get back to you.
God slaughters the Amorites and even chases them "along the way" as they try to escape. Joshua 10:10-11, BT 1000? 30,761,274
Again I;m not sure, maybe God was increasing his kingdom on Earth but in verses before that it says Joshua 10:6 Come quickly and save us! For all the Amorite kings who line in the hill country have come out against us with their armies.
Joshua kills 5 kings and hangs their dead bodies on trees Joshua 10:24-26, BT 5 30,761,279
Above
Massacre of 7 cities Joshua 10:28-42, BT 7000? 30,768,279
above... yes yes I know, I'm asking my pastor
God delivers the Hazorites. Joshua 11:8-12, BT 1000? 30,769,279
Above, and Its not like they killed them innocently their Kings sent out Armies first Joshua 11:4
Massacre of the Anakim Joshua 11:20-21, BT 1000? 30,770,279
Above
God delivered Canaanites and Perizzites Judges 1:4, BT 10,000 30,780,279
I also admit I dont know, but I am asking
Ehud delivers a message from God: a knife into the king's belly Jg.3:15-22, BT 1 30,780,280
The King of Israel was named Eglon
Judges 3:15 But when Israel cried out to the Lord for help, the Lord raised up a man to rescue them. His name was Ehud son of Gera
God delivered Moabites Jg.3:28-29, BT 10,000 30,790,280
Again I have to admit I dont know, and yes I am asking.
Massacre of the Canaanites Jg.4:15, BT 1000? 30,791,280
If you read Judges 4:15 they conquered Sisera, and then if you had read Judges 4:3 Sisera, who had nine hundred iron chariots, ruthlessly opressed the Israelites for twenty years. Then the Israelites cried out to the Lord for help.
God forces Midianite soldiers to kill each other. Jg.7:2-22, 8:10, BT 120,000 30,911,280
Judges 6:1-3 Again the Israelites did what was evil on the Lords sight. So the Lord handed them over to the Midianites for seven years. The Midianites were so cruel that the Israelites fled to the mountains...Whenever the Israelites planted their crops marauders from Midian would attack Israel
God delivered the Ammonites to Jephthah to slaughter. Jg.11:32-33, BT 1000? 30,912,280
The Amonites were planning to Kill the Israelites in the first place Judges 11:4 The Ammonites began their waragainst Israel.
The Spirit of the Lord comes on Samson Jg.14:19, BT 30 30,912,310
again I will ask my Pastor
The Spirit of the Lord comes mightily on Samson Jg.15:14-15, BT 1000 30,913,310
As above. (acutally anyone on cB is welcome to help me answer these)
Samson's God-assisted act of terrorism Jg.16:27-30, BT 3000 30,916,310
The Phillistines worship this weird ass idol named Dagon, not God, and they tried to Kill Sampson, if you read that Delilah is a BITCH
"The Lord smote Benjamin" Jg.20:35-37, BT 25,100 30,941,410
Before in this book there was a stroy of a man who stayed in Benjamin a night, that night men from there came and raped one of his servents till she was dead, the Israelites then wanted to persucute the men but the people of Benjamin refused to hand over the men, then then opted for war.
More Benjamites Jg.20:44-46 25,000 30,966,410
Yes It seems a little too much overkill, but I will ask, and I still have faith in God no matter what
For looking into the ark of the Lord 1 Sam.6:19, BT 50,070 31,016,480
Asking.
God delivered Philistines 1 Sam.14:12, BT 20 31,016,500
Well historically the Phillistines have continously oppressed the Israelites, so the Israelites revolted and attacked the Phillistines
God forces the Philistine soldiers to kill each other. 1 Sam.14:20, BT 1000? 31,017,500
Probably has something to do with the above.
God orders Saul to kill every Amalekite man, women, and child. 1 Sam.15:2-3, BT 1000? 31,018,500
1 Samuel 15:2 This is what the Lord Almighty says'I have decided to settleaccounts with the nation of Amalek for opposing Israel when they came from Egypt'
Samuel (at God's command) hacks Agag to death 1 Sam.15:32-33, BT 1 31,018,501
It actually says But Samuel said "As your sword has killed the sons of many mothers, now your mother will be childless"
God delivers the Philistines. 1 Sam.23:2-5 1000? 31,019,501
The philistines were stealing grain from the threshing floors of Keilah
"The Lord smote Nabal." 1 Sam.25:38 1 31,019,502
Samuel 25:3 Nabal, a descendant of Caleb was mean and dishonest in all his dealings
God delivers the Philistines to David (again). 2 Sam.5:19, 25 1000? 31,020,502
We've alread yestablished that the Philitines are bad people.
Uzzah for trying to keep the ark from falling 2 Sam.6:6-7, 1 Chr.13:9-10 1 31,020,503
I will be asking
David and Bathsheba's baby boy 2 Samuel 12:14-18 1 31,020,504
I'm asking, there is no shame in not knowing everything
b]God sent a three-year famine because of something Saul did. 2 Sam.21:1 5000? 31,025,504[/b]
Asking
Seven sons of Saul hung up before the Lord 2 Sam.21:6-9 7 31,025,511

From plague as punishment for David's census (men only; probably 200,000 if including women and children) 2 Sam.24:13, 1 Chr.21:7 70,000+ 31,095,511
A prophet for believing another prophet's lie 1 Kg.13:1-24 1 31,095,512
Baasha killed everyone in the house of Jeroboam "according to the saying of the Lord." 1 Kings 15:29 1000? 31,096,512
Zimri killed everyone in the house of Baasha "according to the word of the Lord." 1 Kg.16:11-12 1000? 31,097,512
God delivers the Syrians into the Israelites' hands 1 Kg.20:28-29 100,000 31,197,512
God makes a wall fall on Syrian soldiers 1 Kg.20:30 27,000 31,224,512
God sent a lion to eat a man for not killing a prophet 1 Kg.20:35-36 1 31,224,513
Ahaziah is killed for talking to the wrong god. 2 Kings 1:2-4, 17, 2 Chr.22:7-9 1 31,224,514
Becausethe 1st comandment says "You shall have no other gods before me."
Burned to death by God 2 Kg.1:9-12 102 31,224,616
God sends two bears to kill children for making fun of Elisha's bald head 2 Kg.2:23-24 42 31,224,658
Trampled to death for disbelieving Elijah 2 Kg.7:17-20 1 31,224,659
God calls for a seven year famine. 2 Kg.8:1 10,000? 31,234,659
Jezebel 2 Kg.9:33-37 1 31,234,660
God sent lions to kill "some" foreigners 2 Kg.17:25-26 3+ 31,234,663
Sleeping Assyrian soldiers 2 Kg.19:35, 2 Chr.32:21, Is.37:36 185,000 31,419,663
Saul 1 Chronicles 10:14 1 31,419,664
God delivers Israel into the hands of Judah 2 Chronicles 13:15-17 500,000 31,919,664
Jeroboam 2 Chr.13:20 1 31,919,665
"The Lord smote the Ethiopians." 2 Chr.14:9-14 1,000,000 32,919,665
God kills Jehoram by making his bowels fall out 2 Chr.21:14-19 1 32,919,666
God delivered the Israelites into the hand of the Chaldeans. 2 Chr.36:16-17 1000? 32,920,666
Ezekiel's wife Ezekiel 24:15-18 1 32,920,667
Ananias and Sapphira Acts 5:1-10 2 32,920,669
Herod Acts 12:23, BT 1 32,920,670

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Just because that is how the Bible depicts him, doesnt mean its true.

What's the purpose of this?

God did each one for a reason.
I just don't know why for each one cause I never spend time to read the Bible.

Could someone please clarify the point of this topic? I guess I just don't get it.

God has every right to. It's not a murder.

.fire all you're saying is it's ok that god killed millions because they didn't obey him.

I think what is intended for debate is the justification/reasoning behind the worship of God given His 'psychopathic' acts, as supported by writings in the Bible.

I have nothing to add to this discussion besides the wording of the question asked. 'Insane psychopath'. Erm, if you follow the Bible, you are (likely to be) religious, and believe the acts described in the Bible to be possible because they are done by God, whose powers are without limit. But if you refer to God as an 'insane psychopath', it is probably safe to assume you are not so religious, therefore the aforementioned acts are not possible therefore wouldn't you be the one called an 'insane psychopath' for believing?

He/She wants the question answered in the first post answered.

I shall edit this later describing why I do love Him.

And as a side note, please try not to be disrepectful. I understand that you are entitled to your own opinion and believe that I am wrong to worship my God, but calling Him an "insane psychopath" is rude and unnecessary.

Dang, God is more raw than Chuck Norris.

I love me some God.

Is it just me or does this look kind of like a chain letter you could see on myspace?

Oooooh, so you're basically asking us to justify why we believe in god, if we believe in god? The Lutheran god I'm guessing? I guess I shouldn't be posting here as I'm not of a religion.

your only focusing on the bad things that God did why not focus on the good he has done? Read the Bible and get a clue. Most of these people he killed because they were horrible people, Like in Egypt many people were killed because they had jewish slaves and they were treating them worse then animals, Sodom and Gomorah people were killing war prisoners and using their heads as ornaments and everyone was having sex with anyone no matter if old guys where married they would be sleeping with little girls in the streets and causing shit where ever ,Lot's wife was not suppose to turn back because that would mean she would want to go back and share their same fate she got lucky because she was no saint but she wanted to see those people die she wanted to ENJOY their death so she shared their same fate. so actually read the Bible and get your facts.You get these things out of an internet site when you dont even know the background information for ANY of these things you listed. When you can explain each one and why he did it then i can actually debate with you. the Devil doesnt kill because he doesnt have to we are all doing the job for him Just watch the news about The war in Iraq and you will see. Get your info STRAIGHT.

And dont insult God.

I'm agnostic. So it does not bother me.

OR ELSE!

When I read your first post, I was like...okay, she's got a point. But you don't. The Bible is not a book where you can take one passage and leave it at that. There might be some parts where you can, but most of the time if you did that, you'd be taking it out of context.

What we see from you A_Bath is a passionate ignorance. It seems that you just landed on some site and over read this very quickly, getting excited because it bashed God, and thought it would be good to post something you didn't know half about. If you're going to bash something make sure you know the whole story first.

To begin, do you even believe God exists? If not, then how did he kill all those people? You obviously do, if you're getting this furius about the deaths of millions thousands of years ago.

Secondly, if God created them, then they are his to judge and sentence for their sins.

So, learn your history before trying to find the psychopathic tendencies of my God.

this should be in debate... it's actually a really good question

I've read through this. I'm agreeing with:

This, to me is a better fit in the Debate Forum.

Funny, but please stop with the spamming. Unless you have something solid to back up your claims.

----> Moved to Debate

So your parents can kill you if you don't obey them is what you just said. I mean after all they did created your pathetic little body. Now please don't post in my topic if you are going to be idiotic.


Another thing you don't understand is this isn't about if god exist or NOT, it's about how people worship this sick freak that killed many JUST FOR NOT KISSING HIS ASS.

Let me ask, If god came down right now and said kill a new born baby would you? YES or NO

BTW sorry mods but I can't respect people who basically worship Hitler.

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Less this:






More this:

(Minus the don't insult God. This is a debate, not a fight over God)

And for goodness sake, stop with the name calling. Back up your arguments other than copying and pasting quotes from an internet site. How about telling us how he is like Hitler in your own words, instead of bashing those who are in support of God. Give reasonable and intelligent thought to this and I will keep this open. If not, it'll get closed. If you curse or call people names again here, you'll get warned.

Again, don't apologize for what other people believe in. Apologize for the immature behavior you have been exhibiting.

Agreed, God could kill you!



I don't know, but don't you think that you're taking that out of context. If you believed in God you would see him as the creator of all things, love itself, the beginning and the end, the wisest thing ever to exist.

God would not come down and tell you to kill a baby without reason. There is a situation in the Bible that is similar. God told Abraham to sacrifice his favored son Issac to Him to test Abraham's faith. God knew Abraham was faithful. The test was more for Abraham's benefit, but in the end God sent an angel to Abraham to stop him from sacrificing his son.

You should learn more about our religion before you rant and rave about how our God is the original Hitler.

Just answer yes or no. What you annoying christians do is avoid questions like these by change direction of the question. Remember your god if he wanted to can make killing babies a good thing, rape ok, stealing great, etc (As you people believe god makes the rules and can change them). If your god doesn't have the ability to change what's good or evil than your god ISN'T a god because real gods can do all.

^...ok. well, all those things are evil. and by definition: God is everything this world is not. He cannot make evil things good because it goes against who He is. And, I believe God is real. He created man and gave us a choice. He gives us a chance to come to a realization of what is right and wrong. and if we dont come to that realization and attain salvation by believeing that His Son died on a cross for the sins of this world, then He will judge us when we die and say, "Depart from me, ye workers of iniquity, I never knew you." He apparently did not allow evil to go unpunished in the Old Testament, as you listed. He originally created this world and saw it was GOOD (Genesis 1:25). He created man in His own image, however, He also gave man a choice. Adam and Eve were tempted by Statn innthe Garden of Eden and chose to disobey God and eat the forbidden fruit. Because of this, God had to punish them for their sin. This is why there is sin in the world today. You don't think God delights in all the bad things going on, do you?

God has the capability to do anything. He made you and me, created this world in 6 days, and we're still alive. But, God isn't just a punisher. He also shows His grace everyday. We woke up today. We're alive. That's God's grace right there. Although someone may not have woken up today, that doesn't mean God said, "Oh, I think I want so-and-so to die today." God works all things according to His purpose. I don't know what that purpose is because my finite mind cannot grasp the infinite mind of God.

So, basically I'm just saying that God did all that because they all sinned against Him. But, they had a chance to do what is right and everyone of them had an understanding of the truth that sinning against God is wrong.

Mods close this topic.

No point in debating anything if most of this site is full of religious people.

it isn't god that's bad. its the people. and that's how god punishes them, they deserve it.
also, he wouldve done it for a reason. i meann.. he wouldnt just kill somebody because he felt like it, it would make no sense. and uh, no, god is NOT a "murderer".

god didn't only did bad thinks. think on the positive side

sorry if i was just stating my opnion on the debate.

^Don't be sorry at all Sharon, if this was moved to debate then you had every right to voice your opinion.



I'm sorry but I don't get why you would want your topic to be closed? I mean you made it and you wanted others opinions in why others worship God if he killed so many people. So if you really wanted that to be answered wouldn't you need opinions out of others that actually believe in God...?

I think you need to read the rules of the debate forum as well like Rebecca suggested already, you may act one way but immature attitude against others opinions isn't going to be tolerated all the time:
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12116

GOD HATES SINNERRRRRSSSSSSS

jk.

hahahahaha, God lets plenty of people die. What about all those Jews who died for him during the Holocaust? What about all those kids who have been held up to gunpoint for him? He lets them die. B/c HE is MIGHTY and in CONTROL.

I believe in God, but not exactly the Christian/Catholic one. That God must be some sort of freak, especially if his followers are all so messed up and hypocritical.

QUOTE(Anubis_Birth @ Jan 29 2007, 12:27 PM)

So your parents can kill you if you don't obey them is what you just said. I mean after all they did created your pathetic little body. Now please don't post in my topic if you are going to be idiotic.
Another thing you don't understand is this isn't about if god exist or NOT, it's about how people worship this sick freak that killed many JUST FOR NOT KISSING HIS ASS.

Let me ask, If god came down right now and said kill a new born baby would you? YES or NO

BTW sorry mods but I can't respect people who basically worship Hitler.

You honestly have no clue what you're talking about, do you?
God has way more power than your parents. He is the ruler of the worls so explain to me how that comment makes any sence whatsoever.
This is a debate fourm, not a fourm made ot bash other people's beliefs. Please read the debate fourm rules. Also, the comment about kissing his ass, where does it say that he killed all those people because of that reason in the bible. Your first statement was based on passages out of the bible, after all. The person who made that obviously didn't have very much religious knowledge & I don't think you do either. It is obvious that oyu do not have very much knowlede in this subject so please use your common sence when posting, mkay?
Yes, I would kill a newborn baby if he said to. God has a reason for everything to happen & obviously it was the baby's time to go. And you said earlier that he killed all those people because they wouldn't worship him, am I correct? How could a baby worship him when it was just born. You are making no sence in debating that.
Please explain to me how Gos is like Hitler. Hitler was a dictator, God is a ruler. Hitler killed people for no reason, God killed people because they disobeyed him & he was ashamed he ever made them because they sinned. How do those two relate? I'd love to hear what else you have to say about this.

the bible is the "word of the lord". The bible is true (well..so I won't fire up those atheists I'll say this one line)..for Christians. However as others have said God is ruler. People who choose to live under a government and rebel against it will take consequences. He wasn't a dictator yet they were being a bitch about the world. Complaining about the lives he took doesn't matter to me. They were not my mistakes.

Not to butt into your argument or anything, but if God is in control of everything as you say, then God was in control of Hitler. Why would he let something like the Holocaust happen? Did those 6 million Jews and 1.5 million kids deserve to die? Were they more full of sin than the rest of people around the world? Did they need to be "cleansed off" just like Hitler said they needed to be?

Oh wait, like you said, it was "their time to go." Said like a true Hitler worshipper. (p.s. that was an exaggeration, please don't take that to heart and try to convince me you hate what Hitler did)

QUOTE(mishyerr @ Jan 29 2007, 5:33 PM)

Not to butt into your argument or anything, but if God is in control of everything as you say, then God was in control of Hitler. Why would he let something like the Holocaust happen? Did those 6 million Jews and 1.5 million kids deserve to die? Were they more full of sin than the rest of people around the world? Did they need to be "cleansed off" just like Hitler said they needed to be?

Oh wait, like you said, it was "their time to go." Said like a true Hitler worshipper. (p.s. that was an exaggeration, please don't take that to heart and try to convince me you hate what Hitler did)

I wasn't argueing so you're not butting into anything dear. God is in control of everything
& everyone but he lets people have freedom. That is the reson there is sin in the world. I mean, he could force everyone to be robots & do everything he says. But he's lets people have choices. He trusts them to make the right decisions & a vast majority of the time they do not, such as the Hitler case. Those people died because of Hitler's decision, not God's. I honestly can't believe that you are comparing Hitler to God.

As for the Hitler worshipper comment, I think that you are making very ignorant statements having to do with him. I do not worship Hitler, I worship God like any sane person would. When did Hitler ever say it was their time to go? He killed all of those people because he was a man with a sick mind. He had no problem killing those people because he was insane. HE killed them, NOT God. If I wanted to, I could get into this large debate with you over the last comment you made since I am very pissed about it, but I see no reason to debate with people who compare Hitler to God. It would just be a waste of my time because you obviosuly don't have very much knowledge on the bible to make those kind of ignorent statements.

gods a lover mofos....


my 2 cents ;]

People have free will. It was Hitler's exercise in free will to do the holocaust, not God's.

I'm sure that God has his reasons for doing all of this. Recognize that in all of these actions, people have done many many sins, further resulting into his so called "crimes." All of his actions lead to peace, and we all know that peace doesn't last forever. Thus, God continues to make peace over and over, keeping our world sane and from leading ourselves to total war and destruction.

Remember that at the time noted in the bible, the world wasn't a very well goverened place, and it was ruled by Kings and etc. Over the centuries, people have improved on their government and made peace within their own countries. I know what you're thinking, Iraq/Iran/etc. But keep in mind that they're currently receiving help from America, and I believe that God knows it'll lead to further peace. If not, then he'd probably fix it soon enough...

Oh, by the way, God is not an insane psychopath. He created you. He created the world. Pray to him because he lets you live and has blessed you with a comfortable life.

First of all. You call me pathetic...But yet, you're posts are no better. You just bash me for what I believe. That's call persecution.

Now, if you want to dig deep into the theological word...Jesus is God, is He not? If that is what you believe.. Anyway, considering he did all of these so called "murders" He got his punishment. He died on the cross. Justice. There...are you happy?

I don't think that you understand the realm of theology and how it affects cultures. Christianity, has had it's troubles, but let's take a look at Islam...

Islam...literal translation means Submission. The quaran speaks about killing infidels that don't believe in their religion. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the president of Iran came onto American soil and basically told us that he is going to kill us because of what he believes. He believes that if he kills enough people including the Jews that the saviour[don't know exactly how to spell it, or if it is a saviour. I know it's some deity] will return and make the whole world submit to Islam.

You say that the Christian God is bad? First of all, when He kills people or things, it's justified. Not just because He's GOD! but because they obviously did something wrong. Things aren't like that now.

And no, I don't feel my parents have the right to kill me because times have changed. My parents aren't my god. God is my god.

Parents aren't absolute, God is. It's bad logic you're using there. Clean it up. I know I'm not the best at what I say, but I make it as easy as I can to understand.

And don't bash. It just makes you look like you have nothing good to say, and for that fact can't think of anything to say.




Things don't always seem as they appear. Did you ever think that they were being punished? Did you not know that Israel became a nation in like 1948 or something like that? THings have their reasons. We might not be able to see them at first. but htey do.

Okay, so, several things -

Firstly, I'm not religious and I see how you pointedly ignored my contribution to this debate, questioning the position which you are taking yourself. Let me repeat myself for clarity
- if you believe those acts to have been committed, you must believe in some form of God, else how else would they have occurred? If this is so, you're just contradicting your religious belief with your own agnosticism.
- if you DON'T believe in God, surely you're the 'insane psychopath' for believing those acts were committed?

Secondly, not bashing on anyone but someone said God killed those people because they were 'horrible people'. Let's be clear; God, doesn't kill anyone. And also, being a 'horrible person' doesn't justify death.

Thirdly, God isn't defined by his ability to change all. A 'real' god isn't one who can change all the rules and get rid of all the evil that men do. Again, I'm not of any religion but I think, as a general belief, God does no more than oversee our existence; being there for those who ask for him to be, in their time of need. He doesn't intervene but his followers are free to interpret any actions as a sign of His intervention.

And really, faith is about the most abstract thing; how can anyone possibly justify their beliefs to anyone else to such an extent as to convince them of an alternative position? Nobody should have to do that; it's the beauty of free will.

God created us, so why wouldnt he have the say in everything?

There is no actual proof that he did. Just faith!.

yes true...but theres no actual proof that he didnt either. just theories. :)

QUOTE(Heath21 @ Jan 30 2007, 2:01 PM)

There is no actual proof that he did. Just faith!.

That's the entire point of Christianity, is it not?
Being faithful to your God & trusting him with everything.

Well, that's pretty idiotic. Ain't it?

YES! Acid Bath...I love you. Haha. But, to quote you...it isn't idiotic to believe in something like God created us. It betters a person. If there was no God, I'd still listen to what the Bible says because it does have a good moral standpoint. Right?

Secondly, flaymzofice.. God doesn't change. Things have changed from what He made them to be. The world was perfect, but now due to sin it's corrupt. He does change things, but you're right...He's not defined by changing all. And he does more than oversee. He uses people for His plan. I know most of you don't believe that, but most of you don't believe in it at all. That's why I think this debate is wholey directed towards Christians. I have to say that you do need to read more about God and His role and relationship with us. That's the point of Christianity. To have a relationship with God. Up until the time of Martin Luther, God was seen as wrathful for the most part and it's changed because people read the Bible and saw it for themselves.

I don't know. I'm not good at debating on something that is impossible to know. Am I right, Acid Bath?

Hmm, well I don't think it's necessary to submit to the Christian faith in order to participate in this debate. One of my devout Christian friends says I'm basically Christian in my beliefs, but because I'm a cynic and a follower of free will, that obviously renders it impossible for me to be a 'true' Christian (and also explains why I am not a believer of God's Plan).

And I also think the exact opposite (that this debate is directed wholly at Christians); Anubis_Birth seems to find it impossible to believe why anyone would follow God and it would seem to me as a result that it would require precisely a non-follower (per se) to explain the apparently inexplicable actions of those who believe in the 'insane psychopath'. However, I contradict myself because as I have said, nobody should have to explain their beliefs to anybody.

Actually, by "Were they more full of sin than the rest of people around the world?" I was implying that God was punishing them for their "sins."

I understand that some things have their reasons, but I don't believe that there is a God controlling everything and doing "stuff" for "reasons." It's kind of sad that Israel became a nation after an attempted genocide of the Jewish race.

I don't even believe that God is a murderer; I believe in a God that lets things happen the way it happens. Life happens how we choose it to. When events occur, there is no turning back or reworking it. (I don't believe in a Christian /Catholic / religious God).

Oh, and I completely agree that bashing you for "worshiping some freak" is unnecessary and immature.

Omg, you're are queer I hate you, but God... he loves you. Although, he may kill you because he loves all of us... Religion is a very complicated subject, and if you don't know your stuff you're gonna get burned.