is anybody here a Christian, and if so, do you really believe and follow Christ, because with all these posts about having sex and whatnot, it doesn't necessarily sound like it...but i don't want to be judgmental and say that you're not...

Yes, I am Catholic. And I never post here.

I'm Christian, just laugh at those that do post, shouldn't really though, yeah.

I'm Christian, though I don't know what kind of Christian specificly.
I've tried many kinds of churches, but I can't seem to find one that really suits me.

Just think of those people as loose believers ...?

yes i am. protestant.

I bet every one of you has done something that is considered "not Christian".

^^well, you would be correct, every human has...it's our nature...i didnt mean that we were perfect by any means...but when you accept christ, it's supposed to bring about a change, and that would be reflected in what you do...of course you would still mess up, but perhaps not in the ways that everyone seems to be posting in here...

<-- Non-denominational Christian


Kind of an ignorant statement but true nontheless. It's inevitable; every Christian has done something wrong at one point or another.

Heeeeeeeeeeeeey where's Suzzette

shut the f**k up and lighten the f**k up

oh, come on...what's wrong with this topic? i think it's totally acceptable...of course, i started it, so i'm kinda biased, but nonetheless...and it's not a "heavy" topic, so we cant really "lighten up" nor is it persecutive, so again, cant "lighten up"
if you have problems with this topic, dont post in it.

I'm not Christian. I'm a Buddhist. However, I don't think that ones religion should be a determining factor in what you can and cannot discuss. It seems rather silly. That's like saying that Gay people can't talk about vagina's. Just my two cents.

im evangelist or pentecostal i think they are the same but i dunno i have to ask mi mommy. and yes i take my religion serious, because the bible says

"If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he decieves himself and his religion is worthless." James 1:26

I'm a christian
I'm pentecostal.

just because someone [that is a christan] does something they shouldn't, doesn't make them "not christian"

QUOTE(MyEverLastingHopelessRomance @ Dec 30 2006, 1:41 AM)

I'm Christian, though I don't know what kind of Christian specificly.
I've tried many kinds of churches, but I can't seem to find one that really suits me.

Just think of those people as loose believers ...?

There's such thing as non-denominational Christians, which means that you don't necessarily align yourself with a certain christian sect.

QUOTE(Juris Khan @ Dec 29 2006, 11:29 PM)

is anybody here a Christian, and if so, do you really believe and follow Christ, because with all these posts about having sex and whatnot, it doesn't necessarily sound like it...but i don't want to be judgmental and say that you're not...

Yes, I'm Lutheran. And I think that's a ridiculous statement. Just because we're Christians doesn't mean we can't talk about sex and sex is a taboo. We are just taught to look at sex with a different perspective than some people.

that's sorta true but it makes them a bad Christian and their religion worthless.
which you can call hypocrites because I see them alot at my church!

yeah, I am... but I lie in just about every post I make... Wait... that's a sin isn't it....



Yeah, a lot of Christians think that sex is this evil demonic thing.. I don't know, but who ever thought that up is a real moron. Sex is mentioned over and over in the bible. The only thing that the bible doesn't encourage is sex before marriage. Check out some of the stuff Solomon wrote about breasts and vaginas in Proverbs... yeah... or how about 1 Corinthians. A few of the verses in 1 Corinthians actually talk about having as much sex as you want. In fact certain verses talk about there never being a bad time to have other than durring prayer.

That may be true to you.. but it's just a load of crap to me. Sorry

now, i never said that we cant talk about sex or that it is taboo, just the way people are talking about it and saying how they've done this and they've done that makes it sound like they aren't. and like i said, i don't want to judge or assume, and so that 's why i started this, i wanted to know.

It is okay to have and talk about sex even if you are christian. The only thing God says is you have to be married. As far as I see it, when you sleep with someone it makes a bond that to me is considered marriage. That is how it was in biblical days and thats how I follow. The bible does not say how to get married so I think that the church wedding is just another way for the church to make money. I go by how it was when the bible was first written. Anyway, God never said sex is bad altogether and should never be spoke of. Sex being unholy was thew church's invention.

Anyway, to answer your question, yes I am a christian...sort of...not as much. I used to be a junior leader at my church but I left. I love God and I believe he sent down his son to die for my sins and although I have not been baptized in water I have been baptized in the fire. I used to be one of those people you would see in the front of the church jumping up and down, screaming, crying, and laying hands on everybody. But I couldn't take the lies of the church and what modern day christian leaders have done to the way we "should" follow Christ. This is a good example. God nor Jesus said sex was evil, the church did.


As for you...I do hope you are joking. Someone is a hypocrite because they mess up. Christianity is all about f**k ups. That is why Jesus dies on the cross. So that his blood could warsh away all the stupid stuff we do. Its people like you that make me hate the church. Here is an idea, pick up a Bible and read it. Good luck finding anyone that didn't f**k up. (exept Jesus, so it is written) Even David who is said to be after God's own heart did some major f**king up. Get your head out of your ass and into a Bible before you try to put you put people down and call us bad christians.


Yes, you would be right. But that is the base of the christian religion. If we never messed up then why would we need Jesus. Real Christians, not the high and mighty judgmental assholes that you often see in church, know that we are not perfect and that is why we need Christ. You might not believe this and that is your choice, I am not in the business of changing peoples minds anymore, but understand that most of us are well aware that we do pleny of un-Chistian like things. I am a huge f**k up. But its the fact that there is hope that kind be found in Jesus that used to keep me going.

It's the internet. What can one do?

but in my opinion, i'm my own person and i can make my own decisions, including when and with whom i should have sex. i don't need to follow a book or a person who we have no proof whatsoever even exists. i'm atheist and i don't think that i'll be "punished" for having pre-marital sex.

how many christians do you know that drink? isn't that supposedly against the bible too?

^I don't know any Christians that drink. Just.. random.

I'm a non-denominational Christian with a massive faith problem.

drinking (consuming alcohol) isn't against the bible...abusing alcohol is though...

i mean, wine has alcohol in it yet jesus used it in the last supper...



i agree

the whole world is pretty much christian.

but at the same time, in the U.S. anyway, there seems to be a mass surge of a growing christian movement...i think that sometime within the next hundred years, we could see the third great awakening

o.O What about Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Shintoism, Judaism, and Atheism? Although it can be argued that Atheism isn't really a religion.

And those are just some of the major ones.

Im a Christian. I try to follow Christ as much as possible, althought its not always as easy as it seems, i still give it a shot.

nope, im not christian. im actually a buddhist.

actually drinking alcohol is not bad, but if you get drunk then you commited a sin, that's why its best to not even drink at all sense i can be addicting or you could get drunk, (ps the bible also talks about "dont get addicted to something" im not sure i read it in the bible somewhere...


what the heck! dude no!! Christianity is not about making mistakes and asking for forgiveness if you keep making those same mistakes it shows you dont really care! Christianity is not a religion but a relationship with Christ, Christianity is about loving him and knowing he died and accept that he was reserected. You shouldn't say something you don't know that's true about a religion, because there might be someone out there ready to make you look like a fool, not saying that im trying to just saying it because it could happen.

To go alng with the whole its a sin to get drunk thing, the Bible also talks about our body being God's temple and that we should take care of it. So drinking too much or using any drug to much is sin. In fact anything that makes your body unhealthy is sin. Same as overeating. God gave us wonderfull bodies and I think he wants us to keep them in good condition. I know this sounds a bit "extreme" but think of it this way: You spent a lot of energy making the perfect present for someone and they just mess it up. You would be kinda mad and feel disrespected. Well God spent some energy to make these bodies and he put a lot of thought into it, is it right for us to reck it.

And Christianity is based on f**king up. Think about it. If Jesus didn't die on the cross then there would be no christian believe. it would be more like Judaism. Jesus died on the cross because of our f**k ups. Therefor, no f**k ups, no christain. The whole point was that when we mess up we can go to him for forgiveness. Not sure if I said this all right (I have a problem with putting things in my head into words) but I think you might get the point.

P.S. Thanks Brownsugar. You don't know what it means to me to have people agree with me again. In my church I was said to be kinda "radical" so people didn't listen to me after a while.

I can now see why, please dont use that language around me, im not fond of it and if you do it anyways you are not worthy to be talked to. and no Christianity is not about making mistakes. you however don't seem to know the least bit of what it really means. Anyways you arent proving a point and arent making any sense.

God never said don't use the word f**k. Or shit. Or any other curse word. The Bible basicly says not to use words to hurt people. It is not sin for me to say, "f**k that hurt". I am not trying to offend anyone or hurt anyone. But if I say, "f**k you" then thats sin because I say it to hurt you. A lot of christains say the word crap as a sub for shit. But that stupid because crap and shit mean the same thing no matter what way you use it. If we go by most christian logic then crap, heck, ow, darn, etc are all sin language. I curse in a way that is not sin by God (usually), if it is bad to you and other christians, well thats your problem.

go with it, and do what comes natural.

don't worry too much abou tother people.. it'll all work out in the end

Haha if you actually read the bible it says in

James 3:9-12

9With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness. 10Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be. 11Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? 12My brothers, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.


enough said





Great thanks for judging me for your information I do not know it all, and for you to say that I am like a stereotype means that you know it all sense you don't even know me at all. Does that make any sense?

come on, this isnt the way either. christ was about love. i mean, look at who he hung out with: prostitutes, lepers, and all the other "dregs of society" that no one else would even look at. and he loved on them. he didnt hang out with the "upper crust" he didnt hang out with the priests...he even called the priests, the ones who were supposed to be the most respected and revered, "white-washed walls" and i dont know if you know what the reference is, but when there were celebrations, and one had to be clean to attend, they would go out paint the tombs and graves white so that everyone coming would not accidentally touch a dead body and become unclean...so basically, the priests were good looking on the outside, but rotting on the inside...and these were the people who were supposed to represent God. but they did nothing of the sort. christ showed that we are supposed to love everyone, so if there could be only one word to describe christianity, it would have to be love. second to love would be not sinning...because love would bring that change...love would be the change...anyway, i think i've ranted enough...

When did i judge you first?



Well that's true but my youth leader said their's no point in arguing, or talking to someone who doesnt really understand God, or doesn't even care for him, he's heard the word and it's his move to go for the goal or not. Do you know what I mean?

F U C K Y O U.

really, now, huh? what's this about? what did i do to offend you?

*sigh* Dude, I know what the Bible says (though I will admit I normally don't remember the exact verse) but what I am saying that when the Bible mentions cursing it is talking about words that hurt people. It doesn't say "don't say f**k, shit, etc" . If I hurt my toe and say "f**k that hurt" how am I cursing man? I am not yelling at you. I am yelling at whatever I hit my toe on. Does it offend you if I yell at a chair? I hope not. Now if I said "You stepped on my toe motherf**ker", that is cursing men. Until you can show me a verse that says we should not use certain words to express pain or sadness then don't waste your time trying to counter what I said.

And like I said earlier, and the verse proves it, any words used to curse man is sin. Like calling someone jerk. What is the diff between calling someone an a-hole or jerk? Nothing at all. So if we go by your logic then that must mean that all words that express pain are curse words too. So let me get this straight: Ow is a curse word? Because if all you say is true, then that too is truth. I know it all sounds mixed up, but really think about it and I hope you see what I mean.

^ that's fun logic

I'm christian :]
and why is everyone getting so pissed about this topic?
pa leeezzzz grow UP.

I'd have to say I'm not a christian though I do believe in God. I just don't like him. I hope that when the judgement day comes, Jesus comes down and he's chinese. That way everybody's wrong. Better yet, a black Asian who is uncircumcised. People will freak out. Then he says something like "I've got a box of puppies for ya. They're all DEAD!!! And starts throwing puppy corpses everywhere. Then people will be running and screaming bloody murder because Blasian Jesus threw dead puppies out of a box labeled J.C. Then God will show up and say, "Yeah son, hit those Mo Fos!!" Then Satan will come up with Black Spiked up hair and wrist bandages on saying "Wow, this is depressing. Life is so meaningless. I wish I was alive. Then I could Die..." Yup. Thats why I dont like God.

Omg, thats so f**ked up that Idon't know what to say.. *jaw drops...*