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_suzie_
its looked on as a sin by most major religions. Jews and muslims arent allowed to ''spill'' their ''seed'' (sorry if this is crude, but its the teaching). alota fundamental christians see it as a sin aswell, and catholics are meant to aswell.

BUT

i hate this whole debate. especially where Natural Law theories come into things - its NATURAL to masturbate. we're human. for a human not to have sexual feelings or sex itself, is unnatural. so why the hell are ''priests'' etc , who have (supposedly) never had sex, telling everyone else what to do with thier bits?
ugh. hypocrisy

if u wana do it go for it. God still loves you , and you wont go to hell.
xsign_my_heartx
Is this topic even allowed at cb?
CrazyBoy
Lust is sin......therefore Masterb.....is not a good thing. Also there are alot of scientific research on why it is not good to do it.
ParanoidAndroid
QUOTE(CrazyBoy @ Nov 21 2005, 5:36 PM)
Lust is sin.....
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where does it say that?

the church and bible is full of BS (no offense) but really.

Back in midieval times, they wronged women and blamed the female race for eve's mistake...now do you think they still do that? even slave-owning was allowed in the bible (if you say "but that's in the old testament" well guess what, it'S IN THE EFFING BIBLE, BIBLE = GOD'S WORD)

basically i don't think considering masturbation a sin and therefore WRONG is well..WRONG

masturbation is okay...as long as you don't kill too many kittens
CrazyBoy
By comon sense lust is not something good. ANd what's not good is sin.
verlorenrivets
Masturbation is murder. God wants you to have sex with prostitutes instead of masturbating. It's in the bible, I swear!
CrazyBoy
Where in the Bible is it???? What book, chapter, and verse.....i don't belive it.....
ParanoidAndroid
QUOTE(CrazyBoy @ Nov 21 2005, 6:05 PM)
By comon sense lust is not something good. ANd what's not good is sin.
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lust doesn;t automatically mean being sexually attracted...you say it as if it's the same as being tempted to watch porn.

so what if you say lust as the want to become something else or mroe faithful to your church? lust is more of a want even though it usually means sexually attracted..but i don't think it EVER said lust was a sin
CrazyBoy
QUOTE(andromeda_90 @ Nov 21 2005, 7:15 PM)
lust doesn;t automatically mean being sexually attracted...you say it as if it's the same as being tempted to watch porn.

so what if you say lust as the want to become something else or mroe faithful to your church? lust is more of a want even though it usually means sexually attracted..but i don't think it EVER said lust was a sin
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We are tlaking here about ur consious about what u are doing. Not being tempted. You masterb....for a reason....not cause you have to.
And your saying that lust, a storng sexual desirse, cna bring you to church? And it can mean differently? Uh???
ParanoidAndroid
^UGH forget it...you don't know what i mean.... iif you read a LOT of literature you'll understand why lust can be used differently

BUT MAN I NEVER SAW LUST BEING BANNED IN THE BIBLE...AND EVEN IF IT IS, THEN THAT'S BS
CrazyBoy
I just did a little research...and your right. Lust can mean different things. But we are talking about the one that has to do what we r tlaking about. Also I foudn out that lust can mean also adultery. Now, is adultery sin?
ParanoidAndroid
^yes it is

but you can also lust after someone and then marry them can;t you? doesn't mean you lusted for someone doesn't mean you're lusting for someone while being married
waccoon
http://www.themarriagebed.com/pages/bible/...calledsin.shtml
http://www.theology.edu/faq08.htm

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Thus, I tell people if they don't feel guilty about doing it, then it is not a problem. On the other hand, if they do feel guilty, then perhaps they shouldn't. The principles of Romans 14 come into play: on matters of individual conscience, if the conscience is not clear, then for that individual it is a sin.
vash1530
not in my book
mcinemi
God IS real. And about the masturbation thing, there are so many ways to look at it, it just depends. Personally, I am a Christian and I do not think it is a sin, UNLESS you're doing it because of lusting. Now a lot of people say that you can't masturbate without lusting, but I'm not so sure. You don't have to be thinking impure thoughts when you're doing it...

do you?
waccoon
QUOTE(mcinemi @ Nov 22 2005, 3:32 PM)
God IS real.
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Proof?
heyyfrankie
remember...this isn't the debate forum.

;x

LMAO rolleyes.gif
ParanoidAndroid
QUOTE(mcinemi @ Nov 22 2005, 3:32 PM)
God IS real. And about the masturbation thing, there are so many ways to look at it, it just depends. Personally, I am a Christian and I do not think it is a sin, UNLESS you're doing it because of lusting. Now a lot of people say that you can't masturbate without lusting, but I'm not so sure. You don't have to be thinking impure thoughts when you're doing it...

do you?
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Don't just declare that in a public place where there are other people of different religion. How would you feel if someone else from other religions declare their god is real?
vash1530
^why not?
thats their opinion.
verlorenrivets
You are all fools! Zeus is the only true God! He shows his might in every lightning storm across the globe! He was here before people thought up this false christian god!

Zeus declares that masturbation is forbidden unless it is bukkake!
vash1530
"led by the mighty Hades, the armies of Tartarus will crush Zues and all others who pose a threat to masterbation."

HAHAHAHA!!!
dzbemark
yes it is one... but lots of people do it sweating.gif whistling.gif
verlorenrivets
I really don't care if it's a sin or not, as I am not a christian. However, I will let you in on a little secret: It's good for your health. It is good for your heart and relieves stress.

"Studies have shown that masturbating can be good for your health. 95-99% of males masturbate during their lives. It can be very healthy for you because it helps cure the natural sexual drive a guy has but without the risk of pregnancy or STDs. Regular masturbation by a young man can also help prevent prostate problems in the future. Masturbation is in no way harmful and can help your sexual abilities when that time comes (you become more accustomed to your body and how it works). Don't let the myths fool you. You will not go blind, deaf, loose a limb or your hair. Masturbation is a natural healthy sexual activity that most males participate in."

I can cite about 30 more if you want me to.
Retrogressive
The whole question revolves around the belief of religion. As a Christian masturbation IS a sin. Asking "Is masturbation a sin?" would imply that you are religious. Stating a secular answer would be confusing. I have heard the arguement that if you do not think "impure" thoughts while masturbating than it is not considered a sin. *cough* But honestly.

Since I am not religious I do not believe it is a sin. But the question itself is religious so I think it should have a religious answer...
verlorenrivets
QUOTE(Retrogressive @ Dec 1 2005, 3:26 PM)
The whole question revolves around the belief of religion. As a Christian masturbation IS a sin. Asking "Is masturbation a sin?" would imply that you are religious. Stating a secular answer would be confusing. I have heard the arguement that if you do not think "impure" thoughts while masturbating than it is not considered a sin. *cough* But honestly.

Since I am not religious I do not believe it is a sin. But the question itself is religious so I think it should have a religious answer...
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ZEUS SAYS THAT MASTURBATION IS A SIN, THEREFORE IT IS A SIN WITHOUT QUESTION! stubborn.gif
mzbbc
but masturbation is good for you, isn't it? like wade said.

if it really was a sin, why would people have so much fun doing it, and why would it be beneficial to your health? _smile.gif
verlorenrivets
QUOTE(mzbbc @ Dec 1 2005, 4:06 PM)
but masturbation is good for you, isn't it? like wade said.

if it really was a sin, why would people have so much fun doing it, and why would it be beneficial to your health?  _smile.gif
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BECAUSE ZEUS DECREES IT SO! laugh.gif
Religion is funny.
tkfai
i don't think so..it's ok for me
capsule
it'd be much too hard trying to explain to an atheist/agnostic on whether masturbation is a sin...

but yes, for the Christians out there, masturbation is a sin. you're lusting after some naked girl on your pc or magazine in your heart. Jesus said that even lusting after a girl in your heart = adultery.

Course, there are PLENTY of arguments against this (like masturbating without looking at pr0n or whether wet dreams would then be considered a sin), but for me to cover all of those aspects would take up way too much of my time and this page...
klumzy
if it is a sin... may God have mercy on all the guys -.-
teeblue
impure thought yeah. but if your just doing it becausse it feels good. I don't know about that. if you don't masturbate, you will eventually in your dreams. lolz. i saw a monkey at a zoo giving itself heads. now thats crazy.
Levy2k6
it's a sin. it's okay if you do it tho.. you aren't suppose to follow all the church rules, aslong as you don't do something incredibly stupid, you'll be fine. Most of the rules and stuff are not always gonna be followed.. like how many people actually do abstinance? alot but then there is alot more who dont... it's okay.
sharpandcuddly
yes and no.
depending on your religion.

but, personally, i think that masturbation KEEPS you from your urges.
it's usually not a guys fault when he gets turned on, so if he does, masturbation can keep him from pouncing on the next thing with legs.
aswell as for girls.

but that's just my opinion.
vash1530
fcuk sin and religion, do what feels good to you.
MFDOOM
Do not let the dark forces dictate your lives. Masturbation is as natural as urination.
ayu_ku_fan
QUOTE(MF Doom @ Jan 1 2006, 11:41 AM)
Do not let the dark forces dictate your lives. Masturbation is as natural as urination.
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Yeah but the Catholic church frowns on it. I don't see why tho, I mean if you masturbate you're not getting some one knocked up and you're getting something good. It's a win/win situation.
ParanoidAndroid
^The Catholic Church Community is a hypocrite! I mean they say Priests cannot sleep with a woman and yet there are many priests around the world who knock up girls! The religion is just close-minded
ayu_ku_fan
It's not just girls that priests sleep with. 8/10 times a priest will molest a boy not a girl.
WindSorcerous
QUOTE(adoggydog195 @ Jun 3 2004, 12:38 AM)
It is a sin for us Catholics because...
One of the Ten Commandments is Thou shall not have sex before marrige.
As nasty as it is, it is having sex with yourself.
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The only way you can have sex with yourself is if you had both sex organs doing what is sexual intercourse...so...basically...you can't have sex with yourself rolleyes.gif
mipadi
QUOTE(WindSorcerous @ Jan 4 2006, 3:39 PM)
you can't have sex with yourself  rolleyes.gif
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I did once, but I was really drunk and I'm kind of ashamed of it now. _unsure.gif
cLinT_wEStw0oD
wow ^^^
Dragonfly_babe
I'm catholic and from what I've read in the bible so far it mentions nothing about masterbation being a sin. If anyone has an actual line from the bible stating otherwise please prove it to me urgent.gif If ur priest is telling u otherwise he's giving u his word not the word of God rolleyes.gif It says no sex before marriage but it doesn't say anything about being able to pleasure yourself a great sin....not everything that makes u feel good is a bad thing. shifty.gif
Dragonfly_babe
QUOTE(verlorenrivets @ Dec 1 2005, 4:39 PM)
Masturbation is in no way harmful and can help your sexual abilities when that time comes (you become more accustomed to your body and how it works). Don't let the myths fool you. You will not go blind, deaf, loose a limb or your hair. Masturbation is a natural healthy sexual activity that most males participate in."

I can cite about 30 more if you want me to.
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Actually believe it or not u can actually hurt urself during masterbation. ohmy.gif I know it seems wierd but my brothers friend accidentally pulled like a nerve or something while doing it and he got this really big headache and passed out. But he went to the doctor and they did something 2 him.....what i don't know.... huh.gif
DaTru KataLYST
QUOTE(Dragonfly_babe @ Jan 4 2006, 1:45 PM)
Actually believe it or not u can actually hurt urself during masterbation. ohmy.gif I know it seems wierd but my brothers friend accidentally pulled like a nerve or something while doing it and he got this really big headache and passed out. But he went to the doctor and they did something 2 him.....what i don't know.... huh.gif
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Oh god reading that is worse than watching Johnny Knoxville and Jackass throw bones at each others balls .
lidoaznboi89
QUOTE(vash1530 @ Jan 1 2006, 1:40 AM)
fcuk sin and religion, do what feels good to you.
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to the concept you say, doing anything you feel good is right? then would hurting other people be right, since thats whats you feel happy and good right? so would your concept go with everything and everything?


and to dragonfly_babe
do you know your commandments.. if you look deep into it. commandment number 6, you shall not commit adultery, and that is just one of specific things, it goes from fornication to porn, so thus, by the ten commandment it is a sin.. and i remember reading in the bible somewhere about it, about self pleasure. i'll get back to you on the verse..

[ sorry if my words are not pg-13]
lidoaznboi89
QUOTE(andromeda_90 @ Jan 3 2006, 3:47 PM)
^The Catholic Church Community is a hypocrite! I mean they say Priests cannot sleep with a woman and yet there are many priests around the world who knock up girls! The religion is just close-minded
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sad to say.. not everyone is perfect.. and just because of some people's action, the whole church should not be looked down upon. everyone does something wrong in there life, needless to say waht they have done wrong and what are at fault.
Dragonfly_babe
QUOTE(lidoaznboi89 @ Jan 6 2006, 5:24 AM)
and to dragonfly_babe
do you know your commandments.. if you look deep into it. commandment number 6, you shall not commit adultery, and that is just one of specific things, it goes from fornication to porn, so thus, by the ten commandment it is a sin.. and i remember reading in the bible somewhere about it, about self pleasure. i'll get back to you on the verse..

[ sorry if my words are not pg-13]
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Yes I know my commandemnts stubborn.gif If what u say is true to you then stick with it! It is your opinion and it is how you choose to interpret the commandments. That's ur point of view and not gods! The only true way to know if it is a sin or not is by asking god himself and u can't do that until you die.

My friend is an extreme muslim and it is stated very clearly in their Quaran(sp?) that they consider it a sin. Even looking at it or touching it is a sin. some of them evenn bathe with their clothes on because of it.

Oh and just because a few catholic priests were caught molesting boys does not mean that they are all child molesters. It just means that these men were a couple of sick fucks and it has nothing to do with their religion thry were just messed up in the head.

Being a male and a catholic priest doen't automatically mean that u r going to want and have sex with little boys. There are many religions out there that say you cannot have sex before marriage and masturbating is a sin, but that does not cause priests worldwide to up and decide that they r going to molest children somehow everyone likes to focus and blame problems on the christain religion, I don't know y there are so many religions that are more strict....
Gerifan04
I find this subject to be more opinion. Now of course some belief systems are against it and if you follow one of those systems then yes it would be. But if you're not a strick follower of that type of faith, have a belief system that is okay with it, or have no belief system at all then its not. As for my own personal opinion(my beliefs are my own, guided but not ruled by a higher power) its fine and acctually very healthy(or so I've read from statements made by Doctors).
Dragonfly_babe
QUOTE(Gerifan04 @ Jan 6 2006, 9:10 PM)
I find this subject to be more opinion. Now of course some belief systems are against it and if you follow one of those systems then yes it would be. But if you're not a strick follower of that type of faith, have a belief system that is okay with it, or have no belief system at all then its not. As for my own personal opinion(my beliefs are my own, guided but not ruled by a higher power) its fine and acctually very healthy(or so I've read from statements made by Doctors).
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Thank u! worthy.gif You're resopnse is the most open minded one i've heard so far hug.gif
Gerifan04
QUOTE(Dragonfly_babe @ Jan 6 2006, 6:15 PM)
Thank u! worthy.gif You're resopnse is the most open minded one i've heard so far  hug.gif
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Wow! Thanks!

I try to be very openminded, its what I want others to treat me with so I think its only fair to do the same. hug.gif
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