BEST MOMENT AT THIS LAST WEEKEND'S MUSIC BOX MASSACRE (24-HOUR HORROR FESTIVAL) IN CHICAGO:


crispin glover is such a badass.

^



wonderful days
hero
amelie
talented mr. ripley, the
sixth sense
u-571
predator
jurassic park
usual suspects, the
lock stock and two smoking barrels
incredibles, the
apocalypto
pulp fiction
alien
kill bill
in bruges
leon
old boy
v for vendetta
equilibrium
yojimbo
ong bak
unbreakable
memento
ong bak 2
ring, the
empire of the sun

lots more.

The Village? As number four?! That movie was a joke. It sucked. Mad I was suckered into getting it as my free rental =(

So, like, after my summer with netflix, even I don't think my list is acceptable anymore. I'll probably make a new one something this weekend.

(Holy shit. I accessed my netflix renting history for the first time in a while, and it's horrifying to see what my family rents when I'm not there.)

goodness no, sorry.
read FILM AS SUBVERSIVE ART.




the village is the movie you have most issue over on that list?!
read FILM AS SUBVERSIVE ART.



i'm so hoity-toity or whatever. it isn't the worst list i've seen here, but... honestly, juno is one of the biggest piles of shit i have ever seen. i just can't stomach that. you should watch jean-luc godard's filmography.



omg, i lost netflix & i'm totally going to get it again. this christmas dawg. give me a list; i'm interested.

Okay, I'm going to apply. Here's my list:

1. Quantum of Solace
2. Plan 9 From Outer Space
3. Home Alone II
4. Citizen Kane
5. Juno (obvi!)
6. Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones
7. The Fifth Element
8. Armageddon
9. Animal House
10. 8 1/2
11. Little Nicky
12. A Clockwork Orange
13. The Day After Tomorrow
14. Zack and Miri Make a Porno
15. Planet of the Apes (the remake, obvi)
16. How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days
17. Akira
18. Diamonds are Forever
19. Wall-E
20. Sicko ('cause I like documentaries)

not really applying, more like i just feel like listing my top 20 movies.

in no particular order:

1. A Clockwork Orange
2. Role Models
3. American History X
4. Forgetting Sarah Marshall
5. Kung Fu Hustle
6. Harold & Kumar go to White Castle
7. American Beauty
8. Eastern Promises
9. Full Metal Jacket
10. The Usual Suspects
11. Fight Club
12. Se7en
13. Iron man
14. Batman Begins & Dark Knight (yeah, I'm clumping them together)
15. How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days
16. When Harry met Sally
17. Lucky Number Slevin
18. Knocked Up
19. 40 Year Old Virgin
20. Monty Python & The Holy Grail

is this a joke list? i seriously can't tell.



probably my least favorite cronenberg. if you cared for any of the "darker" themes or motifs here, you might be interested in some of cronenberg's other stuff (which is almost all completely amazing). check out VIDEODROME, NAKED LUNCH, CRASH, THE BROOD, SCANNERS, SHIVERS, THE FLY, A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE, & EXISTENZ (probably in that order too).

Completely legit.

Wait. How to Loose A Guy in 10 Days is on your list?!

:O

[#'d for emphasis & organization]

1.boring, so what? you like the most infamous & well-known ed wood film. seriously, are you even trying?! boring!
2.i love this pick; this is the best thing on your list.
3.this movie is a pile of shit. if i was a teenage girl who had to deal with pregnancy, i would swallow a shotgun after watching ellen page (& her talentless ass) tip-toe through the whole thing like it's cute or something. f*ck.
4.omg i thought episode one was bad, f*ck. way to ruin something that wasn't even that great in the first place george lucas, you ass man.
5. easily one of the most lampooned films of all time; total crock.
6. what the f*ck is wrong with you? are you taking crazy pills? tim burton is stupid! this remake is offensively bad! i saw it when it came out & even then i knew it was bad, f*ck. watch the original, it's the cornerstone to the greatest american sci-fi trilogy ever made.
7. i like documentaries too... so why am i not impressed? try wiseman's TITICUT FOLLIES or morris' THE THIN BLUE LINE or herzog's LAND OF SILENCE AND DARKNESS




wow. i expected more from you dawg, u got bad taste.

Reading Nate's comments on this thread makes me sad. Like we're not worthy.

How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days is one of the few romantic comedies I could actually stand, lol.




Hm, I've heard A History of Violence was good. I'll check those out.

A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE is good, but... i highly suggest you put a lot of effort into seeing VIDEODROME. like, you can see HISTORY but it's not going to change the way you understand, watch, or feel about film. more or less, despite some classic cronenbergian motifs, HISTORY is a conventional flick... however, VIDEODROME is something transcendent, something different. if you want to grow as a theater goer, a movie-watcher, see VIDEODROME (and take it very seriously).

movies that change the way you watch movies are often the best movies.

P.S. it's deserving of all the hype (go see it):

oh yeah, I'll get on that during winter break.

also during break I'm kicking all my sisters' shit out of the netflix queue and taking it back over. I miss having time to watch movies/getting them for free.

i'm declaring this the best movie of 2008, MY WINNIPEG (Guy Maddin, 2007):



or this, MAN ON WIRE (James Marsh, 2008):

Can you declare a movie from 2007 the best movie of 2008?

I'm applying for a job at the video store and need to figure out who my top 5 favorite directors are. I also have to solidify a list of top 5 movies. Hmm.

it premiered in the festival circuit in 2007, but wasn't given a theatrical release until 2008. that's a cheat code.

; )



whoa. what sort of video store is this?!

Vision Video, there's about three of them here. It's infinitely cooler than Blockbuster.

apparently. ahhahhhhahha.
if that was on an application for a video store... i would want to work there too, probably.
what are you thinking so far? like, what are your options?

(more) favorite song & dance in the movies*:

buffalo '66:


teen witch:


band of outsiders:


deathproof:



*none musical.

Oh GOD. You referenced Teen Witch.

TWO-LANE BLACKTOP (MONTE HELLMAN, 1971). see it.

my favorite jean rollin film:

THE IRON ROSE (JEAN ROLLIN, 1973)

mystical, strange, erotic, and nightmarish. it's a beautiful and poetic film about romantic love & our fear of death. if you haven't seen a jean rollin film, you might want to prepare yourself. european genre-cinema verges constantly on avant-garde; it's low-budget, philosophical, surreal, and much unlike most cinema. european genre-cinema benefits greatly from its denial of cinema as a mirror of reality. european gentre-cinema embraces film wholly as an art form and as outside of the realm of physicality. if you complain that the blood looks fake, you've made an absurd argument; of course the blood doesn't look real, it isn't.

p.s. lists.

maybe i've already asked you or you've mentioned this, but what are your top scary movies nate?

depends, if you're talking about the "scariest" movies i've ever seen:
DON'T LOOK NOW (ROEG, 1973)
THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT (MYRICK & SANCHEZ, 1999)
DARK WATER (NAKATA, 2002)
ERASERHEAD (LYNCH, 1977)
INLAND EMPIRE (LYNCH, 2006)

if you're talking about my favorite horror films:
POSSESSION (ZULAWSKI, 1981)
HOUR OF THE WOLF (BERGMAN, 1968)
THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT (MYRICK & SANCHEZ, 1999)
NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD (ROMERO, 1968)
A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET (CRAVEN, 1984)
THE BEYOND (FULCI, 1981)
THE IRON ROSE (ROLLIN, 1973)
HELLRAISER (BARKER, 1987)
THE MONSTER SQUAD (DEKKER, 1987)

don't look now is definitely on my "to watch" list.

i only watched the remake of dark water and i'm usually too scared to watch the original ones lol.

i haven't heard of some you mentioned like possession and the iron rose, but i'll look into them.

i watched DON'T LOOK NOW one night, like a foot away from the television (sitting on the floor). it ended moments before the sun rose. it f*cked me up so hard.

haha looking forward to that then :)

i watched oldboy for the first time through late last night (i've watched some parts of it before and i knew the storyline ahead of time anyway) and i kind of felt like that afterward. even though i knew what was going to happen, i was like wtf. also, there were so many parts where i wanted to just burst out laughing, but didn't know if it was appropriate lol. but the sickest scene i thought was when oh dae-su finds out at the end and then the way he acts versus the way woo-jin acts. oh man.

seeing this tonight:


i'm fairly skeptical, but it looks a bit provocative, rather entertaining.

^that movie looks really bad. i hope it's not-i like their advertising though. i've seen a bunch of signs around saying "humans only" or "aliens only"

yeah, it's fairly bad; i thought i was watching transformers 3 or something. this movie is much better:


JULIET OF THE SPIRITS (FEDERICO FELLINI, 1965)

revised list:

1. Blair Witch Project, The (Daniel Myrick & Eduardo Sanchez, 1999)
2. Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (David Lynch, 1992)
3. Possession (Andrzej Zulawski, 1981)
4. Videodrome (David Cronenberg, 1983)
5. Symbiopsychotaxiplasm: Take One (William Greaves, 1968)
6. Blue Velvet (David Lynch, 1986)
7. Week End (Jean-Luc Godard, 1967)
8. Hour of the Wolf, The (Ingmar Bergman, 1968)
9. Juliet of the Spirits (Federico Fellini, 1965)
10. Thin Blue Line, The (Errol Morris, 1988)
11. Iron Rose, The (Jean Rollin, 1973)
12. Lickerish Quartet, The (Radley Metzger, 1970)
13. Stalker (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1979)
14. Gummo (Harmony Korine, 1997)
15. Straw Dogs (Sam Peckinpah, 1971)
16. Two-Lane Blacktop (Monte Hellman, 1971)
17. A Nightmare on Elm Street (Wes Craven, 1984)
18. F for Fake (Orson Welles, 1974)
19. Beyond The Valley of the Dolls (Russ Meyer, 1970)
20. Magnifique, Le (Philippe de Broca, 1973)

Can't believe this is still here.

Note: thanks to your suggestion I had watched Breaking the Waves (Wow) and now it's a movie we might be watching in my college class, Intro to Film. Wicked.

What's OFSC's (Nate's) opinion of Citizen Kane?

*ahem*

1. There Will Be Blood (2007)
2. Taxi Driver (1976)
3. Lord of the Rings (2001-03)
4. The Good, Bad & Ugly (1968)
5. Ben-Hur (196?)
6. Gangs of New York (2002)
7. L.A Confidential (1996)
8. The Departed (2006)
9. Pulp Fiction (1994)
10. Reservoir Dogs (1992)
11. The English Patient (1996)
12. The Aviator (2004)
13. Monty Python & The Holy Grail (1975)
14. Toy Story (1995)
15. Goodfellas (1990)
16. Million Dollar Baby (2004)
17. My Neighbor Totoro (1989)
18. Dog Day Afternoon (1975)
19. Dances With Wolves (1990)--childhood movie
20. Adaptation (2002)


Unfortunately, they're in order. But these are my star 20.

ahaha, yeah. i always come back and throw something @ it, hoping someone may gather something valuable from it all.



thoughaha! voila! i'm glad this was helpful for @ least one person.




CITIZEN KANE is a pretty good movie, but, to me, it sort of sits @ an unfair seat as the king of american classic cinema (although i find it more deserving than say CASABLANCA). here is what i will say about it: orson welles was granted an unusual luxury in early 1940's studio system hollywood, he had significant directorial control. although this control was not necessarily designed (i've read stories of the studio checking up on welles, and him hiding away on set or creating extravagant distractions in order to avoid any studio interference), it was actualized. most importantly, this control was actualized during a period of very restrictive filmmaking. because of this, orson welles was able to do something that no one had yet accomplished (@ such a scale) in the american tradition, he made the camera a character in his film. the photography in CITIZEN KANE is more mobile, more alive than perhaps any film of the same era. here, the cinematography really transforms independent of the narrative for the first time in america. this is really amazing & really interesting, and... if it wasn't for a phenomenal story, perhaps this renaissance of guerrilla creative control would have been ignored.

CITIZEN KANE is about the importance of authenticity & the innocence of youth, CITIZEN KANE critiques career life & media & social icons & enterprise; perhaps in telling something simple (money doesn't secure happiness) in such a complex & mysterious way CITIZEN KANE is able to still haunt & amaze us.

i do really like citizen kane. i love "rose bud" so much. i love the majesty of a lost & defeated giant. nonetheless, i would rather see people in love with something like kazan's A FACE IN THE CROWD (which to me, is like the lost CITIZEN KANE).

if you don't know, go to barns & nobel; all the criterion collection dvds are 50% off. the sale ends on thanksgiving, so... buy that shit up.

i already got:
the exterminating angel
f for fake
juliet of the spirts
salo or the 120 days of sodom
red balloon/white mane

i plan on getting quite a few more wednesday. of course, you can also order from their site. google that shit.

I mainly just stalk this topic because I don't have as much of an interest in films as other people... and I'd rather not say something than make myself look foolish, but I am so glad this thread is somewhat still around (but this thread needs more people who know what they're talking about to post).

i'll try to play nice.

p.s. i'm glad people are still getting something out of this thread. +++++

thanks for your thoughts