ThunderEvermore
Nov 12 2007, 04:46 PM
I agree about Y Tu Mama Tambien, it was entertaining, but not the incredible picture everyone made it out to be. I wasn't incredibly impressed.
ThunderEvermore
Nov 12 2007, 05:08 PM
Ok, trying to make a list that is a better representation of my tastes, and comprised more of movies I can always go back to and watch again and still love it.
1. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007, Andrew Dominik)
2. High Fidelity (2000, Stephen Frears)
3. Heat (1995, Michael Mann)
4. History of the World Pt. 1 (1981, Mel Brooks)
5. Reservoir Dogs (1992, Quentin Tarantino)
6. Die Hard (1988, John McTiernan)
7. Munich (2005, Steven Spielberg)
8. The Brothers McMullen (1995, Ed Burns)
9. We Own The Night (2007, James Gray)
10. The Boondock Saints (1999, Troy Duffy)
11. Serenity (2005, Joss Whedon)
12. A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints (2006, Dito Montiel)
13. The Thin Red Line (1998, Terrence Malick)
14. From Dusk 'Til Dawn (1996, Robert Rodriguez)
15. Rumble in the Bronx (1995, Stanley Tong)
16. Timecop (1994, Peter Hyams)
17. The Godfather (1972, Francis Ford Coppola)
18. Desperado (1995, Robert Rodriguez)
19. Collateral (2004, Michael Mann)
20. October Sky (1999, Joe Johnston)
Just realized I double posted, sorry.
NoSex
Nov 12 2007, 08:30 PM
QUOTE(Djlunatix @ Nov 12 2007, 04:01 AM)

and you are right Texas Chainsaw had bloody scenes, but thats because your also referring to the remade version, where as I'm loyal to the original. Which had no blood on screen, or violent images. Seeing as how you can only seem to grasp ultra violent as the bloodiest images, really shows to me the narrow minded films you like to watch.
When did you ever get the impression I was referring to the
remake of Texas Chainsaw? The hell would I ever do that? Jessica Biel running around in a wet tank-top wasn't
that great. Your presumptuous nature is embarrassing. But, just to clarify:
1. f**k loyalties.
2. Though the violence is largely implied, to suggest that there were no violent images whatsoever is a bit shortsighted.
3. When did you ever get the idea that I "can only grasp" ultra violence? The Blair Witch Project sits at my number one spot.
4. The purpose of these challenges is to get a deeper look into a person's tastes, knowledge, character, and creativity - in this case, I noticed a significant lack of grind, grit, or horror in your list. I wanted to see if you could demonstrate a broader taste. If anyone here is being narrow minded, it's the guy who can't find the enjoyment in a bloody mess.
5. Your list didn't tell me anything about you - aside from the fact that you've seen the same movies everyone else has and, even worse, took to consensus opinion.
6. You're upset. I'm sorry.
QUOTE(AThorpedo @ Nov 12 2007, 03:21 PM)

offered little in the way of personalization.
Word.
QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Nov 12 2007, 04:08 PM)

Ok, trying to make a list that is a better representation of my tastes, and comprised more of movies I can always go back to and watch again and still love it.
Some new movies here I haven't seen. Some new ones I have. I think I'll have to take some time to meditate on this, come up with some new challenges. But, at first glance, I think I like prefer your original list. But, I like you, so, who knows.
Djlunatix
Nov 12 2007, 10:40 PM
QUOTE(AThorpedo @ Nov 12 2007, 05:21 PM)

And, honestly, his comment wasn't too far off if your #1 is Casablanca and #2 is A Clockwork Orange. Your list seemed more like a list of "movies everyone puts on top movie lists because they feel like they're supposed to" and offered little in the way of personalization. At least that's the feel I got from it.
Because my top movies are found on AFI's top 100 list, doesn't make them any less of movies. If anything the movies I chose were to represent my style in camera direction, stylishly appealing and acting capabilities. It doesn't represent movies I found just "entertaining" like the Blair Witch seems to do. No way can you justify the use of a shaky camera, as a "smart" camera decision, unless making a film like Blair Witch. The movie was made to entertain, not impress people with the camera directions.
I understand what the "List" was supposed to represent, and to show my personalization in movies, however the request was
Top 10, it didn't specify which favorite Genre, or ranked on popularity or even based on an entertainment level, if that were so, then Bubble Boy would be on that list for me. However my favorite films represent "Media feats that I find impressive, and acting abilities that shine"
I'm not hurt that I didn't get into your "club," I am disappointed, because I thought at least if these films weren't on any of your top favorite list, then there would at least be a discussion about why these films aren't to your standards. But with such a bland answer as its "AFI's top 100" really doesn't impress me or make me even want to discuss movies with you guys.
Please tell me why Sorstalansag was not up to your standards, was it the raw use of dialogue to represent the brutal truth behind World War II? Was it the quick camera shots that normally left the viewer confused, but done so flawlessly that it moved the story along nicely. It seems to me you only seem to like films that your all partial towards, which if thats the case then I wouldn't want to join.
Typical.
QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Nov 12 2007, 06:08 PM)

12. A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints (2006, Dito Montiel)
Its nice to see this on someones list, is it wrong to possibly compliment Channing Tatum on his acting in this movie? I've always been impressed with Downey, but Tatum really surprised me in this movie.
ThunderEvermore
Nov 12 2007, 10:53 PM
QUOTE(Djlunatix @ Nov 12 2007, 10:40 PM)

Its nice to see this on someones list, is it wrong to possibly compliment Channing Tatum on his acting in this movie? I've always been impressed with Downey, but Tatum really surprised me in this movie.
Wrong? Absolutely not.
But this is coming from someone who appreciated She's the Man.
Djlunatix
Nov 12 2007, 10:56 PM
QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Nov 12 2007, 11:53 PM)

Wrong? Absolutely not.
But this is coming from someone who appreciated She's the Man.
List of Entertaining Movies:
1.) Mean Girls
2.) She's the Man
3.) Bubble Boy.
I love Amanda Bynes.
ThunderEvermore
Nov 12 2007, 11:02 PM
QUOTE(Djlunatix @ Nov 12 2007, 10:56 PM)

List of Entertaining Movies:
1.) Mean Girls
2.) She's the Man
3.) Bubble Boy.
I love Amanda Bynes.
Bubble Boy? With Jake Gyllenhaal? Haha yeah I don't think I've seen that one all the way through.
Agreed on the first two.
AThorpedo
Nov 13 2007, 03:11 AM
QUOTE(Djlunatix @ Nov 12 2007, 09:40 PM)

Typical.
Who said my list was simply a list of just entertainment? I'd say the only movie on my list that I chose simply for entertainment would be
Riki-Oh: The Story of Ricky. The most impressive aspect of this movie is how laughably bad it is, but, in that, it was also the most fun I have had while watching a movie. The entire movie is pretty much a plot hole, but that does not change how memorable the experience of watching it was for me.
It's apparent that you chose to only list movies that you think are theatrical feats; unfortunately, most of those were films that everyone recognizes as important, which brings me back to the whole lack of personalization idea. It's unfortunate that you decided this instead of synthesizing lists of favorites and movies that are important to you personally and historically. I'd contend that everyone that has been accepted so far has accomplished this. All of the great cinematography and impressive dialogue in the movies you listed doesn't change that there wasn't any outstanding reason to think you had any intimate grounds for choosing those films.
The most important reason
Sorstalansag isn't on my list is because I have never seen it. I'm sorry, I'm not going to pretend like I have seen every movie or even all the same movies you have. I guess because I haven't seen it, that makes everything I said mute. Assuming it doesn't make my list when I see it, I'll let you know why it isn't.
Djlunatix
Nov 13 2007, 03:48 AM
QUOTE(AThorpedo @ Nov 13 2007, 04:11 AM)

The most important reason Sorstalansag isn't on my list is because I have never seen it. I'm sorry, I'm not going to pretend like I have seen every movie or even all the same movies you have. I guess because I haven't seen it, that makes everything I said mute. Assuming it doesn't make my list when I see it, I'll let you know why it isn't.
And when you do see if you ever plan to, then I would be glad to discuss the directors decisions, camera direction and even script and storyline. I wish the entire "club" was like this, but i'm afraid its not, its just a chance for others to judge them based on their own personal style of film, which Casablanca being my number 1, because its beautifully orchestrated, the acting is brilliant and the storyline was easy to follow. Sorry it can't have an indepth meaning such as a Blair Witch or any of David Lynch's films, but still its my list of films I find great, and I'm sorry it doesn't meet your standards, however being a Cinematography Major with a Film Studies Minor I am always up for discussing films, assuming I have seen them as well.
MissFits
Nov 15 2007, 08:55 PM
Has anyone seen Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer?
That was one of the very best (if not the best) horror movies I have ever seen! If you haven't seen it I HIGHLY suggest finding it!
NoSex
Nov 20 2007, 11:33 PM
QUOTE(MissFits @ Nov 15 2007, 07:55 PM)

Has anyone seen Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer?
That was one of the very best (if not the best) horror movies I have ever seen! If you haven't seen it I HIGHLY suggest finding it!
I saw
Henry probably two years ago, after years of hearing the hype. I was, if I must say, sorely disappointed. I thought the story was emotionless, dry, boring, and non-engaging. I kept hearing about how this was an unflinching and brave depiction of a serial killer - an honest and insightful journey into the mind of a mad man. I saw nothing of the such. Worse, I saw an inflated and pseudo-hollywood demonstration of a "twisted" love story. So bad. Not particularly brutal, poorly acted, and not quirky or charming enough to warrant even a second viewing. Still, to this day, I have no idea how this film ever contracted such a reputation. Low-budget don't mean shit - f**k, Ebert loved this movie - of course it's emotionally dishonest.
AThorpedo
Nov 27 2007, 01:00 AM
Updated list, sort of.
1. Blue Velvet (David Lynch, 1986)
2. Crash (David Cronenberg, 1996)
3. Gummo (Harmony Korine, 1997)
4. The Blair Witch Project (Daniel Myrick and Eduardo Sanchez, 1999)
5. Who Can Kill a Child? (Narciso Serrador, 1976)
6. INLAND EMPIRE (David Lynch, 2006)
7. Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill! (Russ Meyer, 1965)
8. Eraserhead (David Lynch, 1977)
9. Rushmore (Wes Anderson, 1998)
10. A History of Violence (David Cronenberg, 2005)
11. Pulp Fiction (Quentin Tarantino, 1994)
12. A Nightmare on Elm Street (Wes Craven, 1984)
13. The Forbidden Zone (Richard Elfman, 1980)
14. Lost in Translation (Sofia Coppola, 2003)
15. Pee Wee's Big Adventure (Tim Burton, 1985)
16. Battle Royale (Kinji Fukasaku, 2000)
17. Adaptation (Spike Jonze, 2002)
18. The Evil Dead (Sam Raimi, 1981)
19. Dead Alive (Peter Jackson, 1992)
20. Riki-Oh: The Story of Ricky (Lam Ngai Kai, 1991)
I saw Dead Alive once again this weekend and asked myself why it wasn't on my top 20. I couldn't come up with a good reason for it to not be on my list, or a bad reason for it to be on my list.
I saw F for Fake last night as well. Ugh.
MissFits
Nov 27 2007, 04:52 AM
QUOTE(NoSex @ Nov 21 2007, 01:33 AM)

I saw Henry probably two years ago, after years of hearing the hype. I was, if I must say, sorely disappointed. I thought the story was emotionless, dry, boring, and non-engaging. I kept hearing about how this was an unflinching and brave depiction of a serial killer - an honest and insightful journey into the mind of a mad man. I saw nothing of the such. Worse, I saw an inflated and pseudo-hollywood demonstration of a "twisted" love story. So bad. Not particularly brutal, poorly acted, and not quirky or charming enough to warrant even a second viewing. Still, to this day, I have no idea how this film ever contracted such a reputation. Low-budget don't mean shit - f**k, Ebert loved this movie - of course it's emotionally dishonest.
Love story my ass!
It showed how he could be a regular Joe. He could be a man you meet on the street, he could be the person your falling in love with. He seemed so emotional but inside he was f**kED! And Otis, oh my God, Otis. What a sick f**k!! He didn't kill because he was f**ked up, he killed because he liked it, it turned him on. I loved that movie so much.
superstitious
Dec 8 2007, 10:33 PM
QUOTE(AThorpedo @ Nov 27 2007, 12:00 AM)

14. Lost in Translation (Sofia Coppola, 2003)
Would you mind terribly if I asked, why? Not that you're the only one that likes this film or would put it in a top ten type list, but why?
I guess Lost in Translation seems so pretentious and forced. At least to me it does. I bought the DVD on a whim and use it for a coaster now. Maybe I'm just bitter. :|
ThunderEvermore
Dec 9 2007, 02:32 AM
So watched Grizzly Man and also Rescue Dawn (Both Herzog) and was very impressed. I'd say I liked White Diamond better than Grizzly Man, but it was still enthralling to say the least. Rescue Dawn was very good, but with both Steve Zahn and Christian Bale, it's hard not to be.
livwho
Dec 9 2007, 02:37 AM
QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Nov 12 2007, 09:53 PM)

Wrong? Absolutely not.
But this is coming from someone who appreciated She's the Man.
I watched that movie tonight. Amazing.
Sorry, I'm quoting an old post.
NoSex
Dec 24 2007, 11:40 PM
QUOTE(superstitious @ Dec 8 2007, 09:33 PM)

Would you mind terribly if I asked, why? Not that you're the only one that likes this film or would put it in a top ten type list, but why?
I actually really enjoy Lost In Translation - I found it to be a pleasant and slightly melancholy meditation on the power of chance meetings. I've spent a good deal of time pondering the weight of a single instance, so, the films basic premise appeals to me quite naturally. To compliment these sentiments, I think the atmosphere was fleshed out amazingly well.
I also really like the ending, and I'm a sucker for "'wow' them in the end and you have a hit."
I wouldn't put it in a Top anything, but I also don't hate seeing it - in fact, I like seeing it - if not only because it actually excites some sort of philosophical and emotional echo inside of me. As goes pretension - I'm not even sure of what that is anymore (and at this point, I'm not even so sure I care.)
QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Dec 9 2007, 01:32 AM)

So watched Grizzly Man and also Rescue Dawn (Both Herzog) and was very impressed. I'd say I liked White Diamond better than Grizzly Man, but it was still enthralling to say the least. Rescue Dawn was very good, but with both Steve Zahn and Christian Bale, it's hard not to be.
I finally got around to seeing The White Diamond. Pretty f**king rad - very surreal. I intend, as always, to further secure my Herzog experience. For a different flavor, brand, whatever, I
highly encourage you to see Julien Donkey-Boy (not as good as Gummo, but definitely worthwhile). Herzog gives an amazing performance - absolutely hilarious and haunting.
So, what do we all think of the new Cohen Brother's film?
superstitious
Dec 25 2007, 01:01 AM
QUOTE(NoSex @ Dec 24 2007, 10:40 PM)

I actually really enjoy Lost In Translation - I found it to be a pleasant and slightly melancholy meditation on the power of chance meetings. I've spent a good deal of time pondering the weight of a single instance, so, the films basic premise appeals to me quite naturally. To compliment these sentiments, I think the atmosphere was fleshed out amazingly well.
I also really like the ending, and I'm a sucker for "'wow' them in the end and you have a hit."
I wouldn't put it in a Top anything, but I also don't hate seeing it - in fact, I like seeing it - if not only because it actually excites some sort of philosophical and emotional echo inside of me. As goes pretension - I'm not even sure of what that is anymore (and at this point, I'm not even so sure I care.)
Like I mentioned (or believe I mentioned here, I've said it regarding the movie before), I wanted to like it. I blindly went out and bought it
knowing I'd love it. Problem is, the love never happened and I actually became irritated at one point watching it. The problem (well, part of the problem at least)might very well be Scarlet Johansen. I just can't watch her. That and for some reason I was hypnotized by Virgin Suicides. I'm not saying that it's an either or predicament, just that I was really disappointed about two scenes into the movie.
As far as the pretension related remark, that's the impression (or one of the impressions)I get from the film, not necessarily an impression of a viewer that might enjoy the film. Not that it's of particular importance what I may think. I just express as I will.
QUOTE
So, what do we all think of the new Cohen Brother's film?
Haven't seen it yet, but I've been aching to go. The damn holidays and all the expenses and time that is poured into them has made it impossible for me to see any movies for quite some time. I'll post/reply here though when I do see it.
ThunderEvermore
Dec 28 2007, 03:56 PM
I walked away from No Country for Old Men the same way I did with Barton Fink, in sort of a "What the f**k just happened?" mood. They both were, from beginning to end, however, highly intense and entertaining. A great performance from Javier Bardem, when he's choking that cop to death, it's just...evil. And yet theres something so likable about him at the same time. Brings to mind Jubal early from the final episode of Firefly, "Objects in Space". He's odd, bad, yet ...odd. Haha it's hard to explain.
I thought Woody Harrelson would end up being a bit more bad ass than he did, but oh well.
Djlunatix
Dec 31 2007, 06:12 AM
4 Movies I would be Glad to Discuss:
1.)The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
2.)There Will Be Blood
3.)Atonement
4.)Before The Devil Knows Your Dead
...And I enjoyed the new Coen brothers film. This film was great to watch solely based on the storyline. Regardless of what some think the Coen brothers are experts at telling a story, with the exception of The Ladykillers.
- Also given that the Director of Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (since he did direct Wild Things) I thought the movie was successful in its portrayal of Henry Lucas's confessions. The movie I wouldn't call the scariest of its time, but it did leave me thinking about it after the film was over, which in my book makes it a successful film. Then again I am a fan of Michael Rooker, so this is probably a biased comment.
Djlunatix
Dec 31 2007, 06:24 AM
Please delete this double post... Unfortunately I am not used to IP Boards. Ugh
NoSex
Jan 8 2008, 05:23 PM
QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Dec 28 2007, 02:56 PM)

I walked away from No Country for Old Men the same way I did with Barton Fink, in sort of a "What the f**k just happened?" mood. They both were, from beginning to end, however, highly intense and entertaining.
Unfortunately, I have not seen as much of the Cohen Brothers as I would like to have (I'm working on it). But, I did enjoy No Country for Old Men. That's no f**king joke that that movie is "intense." Without having any music or a score to raise tension the Cohen's really demonstrated a real mastery of direction. The tight camera work and the audience's confused participation (from time to time) really let the mood spill over the theater - I was quite impressed. Although I was uninterested with most of dialogue - which is unusual for a Cohen Brothers film - I still found the film rather agreeable.
The villain was amazing, as you noted, and the violence was impeccable. Short of moments of laughter or oral acrobatics, but chock full of thrill and intrigue. Sort of a slow start and an abrupt ending, but it's forgivable given the already broken conventions. Altogether, an enjoyable experience.
QUOTE(Djlunatix @ Dec 31 2007, 05:12 AM)

There Will Be Blood
I want to see that.
Who has seen Once?Anyone in the Chicago area really like Hellraiser?P.S. New List:
1. The Blair Witch Project (Daniel Myrick & Eduardo Sanchez, 1999)
2. Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (David Lynch, 1992)
3. Blue Velvet (David Lynch, 1986)
4. Videodrome (David Cronenberg, 1983)
5. Gummo (Harmony Korine, 1997)
6. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly (Sergio Leone, 1966)
7. La Dolce Vita (Federico Fellini, 1960)
8. Crash (David Cronenberg, 1996)
9. The Seventh Seal (Ingmar Bergman, 1957)
10. Night of the Living Dead (George A. Romero, 1968)
11. The Squid and the Whale (Noah Baumbach, 2005)
12. Lawrence of Arabia (David Lean, 1962)
13. Adaptation (Spike Jonze, 2002)
14. The Forbidden Zone (Richard Elfman, 1980)
15. Straw Dogs (Sam Peckinpah, 1971)
16. Week End (Jean-Luc Godard, 1967)
17. A Nightmare on Elm Street (Wes Craven, 1984)
18. Symbiopsychotaxiplasm: Take One (William Greaves, 1968)
19. Beyond The Valley of the Dolls (Russ Meyer, 1970)
20. The Thin Blue Line (Errol Morris, 1988)
NoSex
Feb 3 2008, 02:47 PM
I just saw Barbarella and know very well that Jane Fonda is not a better actor than Henry Fonda, but. Jane Fonda is not greater than Henry Fonda. Jane Fonda is not greater than Henry Fonda. Jane Fonda is not...
How many cinephiliacs here have Netflix?
ThunderEvermore
Feb 3 2008, 11:06 PM
Once, loved it.
I have blockbuster total access, but I think we've had this conversation.
NoSex
Feb 4 2008, 07:39 PM
QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Feb 3 2008, 10:06 PM)

Once, loved it.
So good.
Hey,
five awful movies with amazing endings and or amazing movies with awful endings! (You can mix and match as you see fit. Just, need five total.)
ThunderEvermore
Feb 4 2008, 11:07 PM
QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 4 2008, 07:39 PM)

So good.
Hey, five awful movies with amazing endings and or amazing movies with awful endings! (You can mix and match as you see fit. Just, need five total.)
North By Northwest - The perfect ending to an already tense movie, bullets flying, Eve hanging over the edge of Mount effing Rushmore and then....wtf? Where'd the train come from?
The Departed - Ok honestly the ending wasn't really horrible, I loved it. It was just a WTF moment. The whole movie lays down this plot, and then....everybody's dead.
Ocean's 12 - Totally just a horrible likeness of what the original was, but somehow Albert Finney makes it all better.
Tin Cup - All that great golf. All that emotional and personal journey. And he learned....NOTHING.
Sleepless in Seattle - The entire movie just became the exposition of a romantic comedy as opposed to a full fledged movie. How can you end with the main characters meeting for the first time?
Djlunatix
Feb 4 2008, 11:45 PM
I've been constantly watching 1 film per night due to my film classes and History of Cinema, but a few I've enjoyed recently were.
Paris Je T'aime.
Breathless
and Dance Party USA + Quiet City.
Plus I've been reviewing the Oscar noms, and if No Country doesn't win, Atonement will. Absolutely amazing cinematography. The camera shot in Atonement (by the beach) is by far the best I have seen in Cinematic history. It beats out Children of Men's camera shots by miles.
NoSex
Feb 5 2008, 04:28 AM
QUOTE(Djlunatix @ Feb 4 2008, 10:45 PM)

I've been constantly watching 1 film per night due to my film classes and History of Cinema, but a few I've enjoyed recently were.
I've been trying to commit to a similar practice - not always easy. But, definitely worthwhile.
QUOTE(Djlunatix @ Feb 4 2008, 10:45 PM)

Breathless
Have you seen any other Godard?
QUOTE(Djlunatix @ Feb 4 2008, 10:45 PM)

Plus I've been reviewing the Oscar noms
God dammit, I f**king hate the Oscars. Speaking of, I should really make an effort to see all of these nominations. That way I can really shit on The Academy when they make the wrong choice.
Insurmountable
Feb 5 2008, 04:48 AM
QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 3 2008, 02:47 PM)

I just saw Barbarella and know very well that Jane Fonda is not a better actor than Henry Fonda, but. Jane Fonda is not greater than Henry Fonda. Jane Fonda is not greater than Henry Fonda. Jane Fonda is not...
How many cinephiliacs here have Netflix?
well i'm not a cinephile but I do have netflix

So how is clockwork orange? I saw it on someone's list, I always wanted to see it but never got to it?
ersatz
Feb 7 2008, 11:25 PM
Speaking of Atonement, I saw that, and it was pretty good. I really liked the whole back and forth in time all the time thing and also the way that all the characters walked. Like, all of them. It seemed like they were always so determined to get to where they needed to go and their heads were always in front of their bodies as if their heads were pulling the bodies along. Not that this matters, but I was also really impressed with how well they matched up the appearances of older Briony with younger Briony. It's rare that they can make them look like the same person in movies.
NoSex
Feb 14 2008, 12:24 AM
QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Feb 4 2008, 10:07 PM)

North By Northwest - The perfect ending to an already tense movie, bullets flying, Eve hanging over the edge of Mount effing Rushmore and then....wtf? Where'd the train come from?
I just like seeing the title mentioned, anywhere. Love me some
North By Northwest. I should really make an effort to see more Hitchcock though. I think I've seen but five of his films.
QUOTE(Insurmountable @ Feb 5 2008, 03:48 AM)

So how is clockwork orange?
It's pretty much essential viewing if you want to be a part of this culture. It's a highly influential, historically significant piece. It's themes and images have been echoed every since its inception. But, it's definitely an overrated and obsessively lauded film. In either case, I think it's a great film - absurdest, insightful, disturbing, and fun.
Kubrick should have done fewer adaptations, I wonder what that would have been like?
QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 7 2008, 10:25 PM)

Speaking of Atonement, I saw that, and it was pretty good.
Maybe I should make the effort...
ersatz
Feb 14 2008, 03:30 PM
It's not amazing or anything, but I don't know if it's still out. It's just interesting in the way that one of the characters is sort of blamed for the mess-up of others' lives, and how if she had not done one certain thing, their lives would be so much better, and other things would have happened that would reveal the movie to you. It does sort of change tones quickly in the middle, like you think it's going to be about one thing, and then voom, it's different. Strange...
superstitious
Feb 14 2008, 03:43 PM
QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 3 2008, 01:47 PM)

How many cinephiliacs here have Netflix?
*Points to signature*
I have the three at a time thing, but that's pretty much split between myself, my son and my mother. Our queue is very random.
I haven't seen Atonement. I'll admit that I am hesitant because of my strong distaste for Kiera Nightly.
The fast-foward orgy scene in Clockwork Orange is one of my favorite sequences in film history.
Djlunatix
Feb 15 2008, 01:18 AM
QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 14 2008, 04:30 PM)

It's not amazing or anything, but I don't know if it's still out. It's just interesting in the way that one of the characters is sort of blamed for the mess-up of others' lives, and how if she had not done one certain thing, their lives would be so much better, and other things would have happened that would reveal the movie to you. It does sort of change tones quickly in the middle, like you think it's going to be about one thing, and then voom, it's different. Strange...
I disagree, its actually very short of amazing. The entire cinematography of the movie was breathtaking, and the adaptation of from the book is spot on, very seldom do we actually get a accurate adaptation from a novel. The story, acting, camera shots and environment were all spot on. This movie has the potential to win Best Picture, but I am still rooting for No Country for Old Men.
ThunderEvermore
Feb 15 2008, 01:39 PM
Speaking of Oscars, what's everybody's pick for the big five?
Best Picture
Atonement
Juno
No Country for Old Men
There Will be Blood
Michael Clayton
Actor in a Leading Role
George Clooney in Michael Clayton
Daniel Day-Lewis in There Will be Blood
Johnny Depp in Sweeney Todd
Tommy Lee Jones in In The Valley of Elah
Viggo Mortensen in Eastern Promises
Actress in a Leading Role
Cate Blanchett in Elizabeth: The Golden Age
Julie Christie in Away From Her
Marion Cotillard in La Vie En Rose
Laura Linney in The Savages
Ellen Page in Juno
Actor in a Supporting Role
Casey Affleck in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men
Phillip Seymour Hoffman in Charlie Wilson's War
Hal Holbrook in Into the Wild
Tom Wilkinson in Michael Clayton
Actress in a Supporting Role
Cate Blanchett in I'm Not There
Ruby Dee in American Gangster
Saoirse Ronan in Atonement
Amy Ryan in Gone Baby Gone
Tilda Swinton in Michael Clayton
My choices:
Best Picture : Sadly I've only seen two of the five, out of Juno and No Country I have to go with NCFOM.
EDIT: Just got back from There Will be Blood. Wow. Just wow. I have to slip that in instead of No Country. I'm sorry I'm just speechless.
Actor : Again I've only seen two of them. I'm very much rooting for Tommy Lee Jones, who did fantastic. Viggo gets props for naked fight, but he just didn't wow me, at least not beyond his usual amazingness. Danny boy is probably the clinch though.
EDIT: Again, Daniel Day-Lewis just blew me away. I am truly amazed.
Actress : I only saw Juno out of these, and Ellen Page was wonderful. And it would be cool to see Cate take the trophy for the role she won for before. But from the sounds of it it's gonna be Julie Christie, in a movie I desperately want to see.
Supporting Actor : Casey Affleck Casey Affleck Casey Affleck. Wow what a role, what a movie (my choice for best picture), and wow is all I can say.
Supporting Actress : Amy Ryan, fantastic. Gone Baby Gone was one of my favorite movies of the year, and she just knocked it out of the park.
ersatz
Feb 17 2008, 03:27 PM
I don't know about the other ones because I haven't seen enough of the nominees, but Saoirse Ronan should win for Supporting Actress. She made that movie. Really good, especially for her age.
I hadn't read the novel before seeing Atonement, so I guess I may not have gotten the surprise of seeing an accurate adaptation. I must admit, though; when Kiera and the guy (sorry, I don't know his name) were in the library...my friend and I got a bit uncomfortable. That's probably the longest sex scene I've ever seen in a movie.
Rebecca, you should see it anyway.
Djlunatix
Feb 18 2008, 07:45 PM
QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 17 2008, 04:27 PM)

I must admit, though; when Kiera and the guy (sorry, I don't know his name) were in the library...my friend and I got a bit uncomfortable. That's probably the longest sex scene I've ever seen in a movie.
I COMPLETELY Agree. I was watching it with my 2 best friends, and we had sat together through movies way more erotic then that...but wow the passion and interesting camera shots made the scene so awkward to watch with friends.
Picks.---
Best Picture
Atonement
JunoNo Country for Old MenThere Will be Blood
Michael Clayton
Actor in a Leading Role
George Clooney in Michael Clayton
Daniel Day-Lewis in There Will be BloodJohnny Depp in Sweeney Todd
Tommy Lee Jones in In The Valley of Elah
Viggo Mortensen in Eastern Promises
Actress in a Leading Role
Cate Blanchett in Elizabeth: The Golden Age
Julie Christie in Away From HerMarion Cotillard in La Vie En Rose
Laura Linney in The Savages
Ellen Page in JunoActor in a Supporting Role
Casey Affleck in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert FordJavier Bardem in No Country for Old MenPhillip Seymour Hoffman in Charlie Wilson's War
Hal Holbrook in Into the Wild
Tom Wilkinson in Michael Clayton
Actress in a Supporting Role
Cate Blanchett in I'm Not ThereRuby Dee in American Gangster
Saoirse Ronan in AtonementAmy Ryan in Gone Baby Gone
Tilda Swinton in Michael Clayton
BOLD CHOICES are my picks to win.
ITALICS CHOICES are those I wish would win.
Casey Affleck and Ellen Page. Amazing performances.
xquizit
Feb 18 2008, 09:07 PM
Count me IN!
(in no specific order)
1) Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
2) Me and You and Everyone We Know
3) Requiem For A Dream
4) Pan's Labyrinth
5) The Orphanage
6) The Motorcycle Diaries
7) The Fifth Element
8) City of God
9) Crash
10) Magnolia
11) Vanilla Sky
12) In Bruges
13) Stranger Than Fiction
14) Superbad
15) Lord of War
16) Fight Club
17) Waking Life
18) Romeo & Juliet
19) Children of Men
20) Ghost
ThunderEvermore
Feb 18 2008, 09:54 PM
QUOTE(xquizit @ Feb 18 2008, 09:07 PM)

Count me IN!
(in no specific order)
1) Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
2) Me and You and Everyone We Know
3) Requiem For A Dream
4) Pan's Labyrinth
5) The Orphanage
6) The Motorcycle Diaries
7) The Fifth Element
8) City of God
9) Crash
10) Magnolia
11) Vanilla Sky
12) In Bruges
13) Stranger Than Fiction
14) Superbad
15) Lord of War
16) Fight Club
17) Waking Life
18) Romeo & Juliet
19) Children of Men
20) Ghost
I already know what she's gonna say
Which Crash?
PS - Fifth Element is great!
ersatz
Feb 18 2008, 11:34 PM
She? She who?
I agree with the support of Ellen Page; she made that movie, hands down. It would be total shit without her performance.
NoSex
Feb 19 2008, 12:50 AM
QUOTE(xquizit @ Feb 18 2008, 08:07 PM)

Count me IN!
I'm going to have to "no" this for the complete lack of pre-80's cinema, the inclusion of Crash, and Vanilla Sky. Even still, this list doesn't particularly move anything but my bowels (maybe). A lot of obvious picks and not enough of a microscope to your personality or taste...
Have you seen Linklater's
Slacker?
What did you think
You and Me was trying to say about the development of human relations in a constantly advancing technological society?
Did you like the sing-a-long montage in
Magnolia?
Why do people think Patrick Swyayayyxyzyzye is hot?
QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Feb 18 2008, 08:54 PM)

I already know what she's gonna say
For already knowing what I'm going to say, I want you in this club. I like your list more than pretty many any of the other denied applicants, and I very much enjoy your commentary, insight, and involvement in this club (as I do with DjLunatix).
So, ThunderEvermore (the f**k is your name?) wanna be admitted?
ThunderEvermore
Feb 19 2008, 09:38 AM
Name's Winston, haha, and I would gladly be admitted.
OH into the club, yes, yes I would like that very much.
>.>
<.<
Oh and I know why Patrick Swayze is hot.
It's the eye patch.
You know...from the Escape movies.
ersatz
Feb 19 2008, 04:14 PM
Your name is Winston? I love the name Winston. That's awesome. I've never actually met anybody with that name.
And NoSex is a he...just so you know, for future reference.
Do you even have a list of members, Nate? Is it at the beginning of this thread? If so, ignore...
I see it. Spencer isn't even on CB!
superstitious
Feb 19 2008, 04:59 PM
Nate, Nate, Nate. Are there really on FOUR members?
QUOTE(xquizit @ Feb 18 2008, 08:07 PM)

Count me IN!
(in no specific order)
1) Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
2) Me and You and Everyone We Know
3) Requiem For A Dream
4) Pan's Labyrinth
5) The Orphanage
6) The Motorcycle Diaries
7) The Fifth Element
8) City of God
9) Crash
10) Magnolia
11) Vanilla Sky
12) In Bruges
13) Stranger Than Fiction
14) Superbad
15) Lord of War
16) Fight Club
17) Waking Life
18) Romeo & Juliet
19) Children of Men
20) Ghost
While a few of these are enjoyable to an extent, I wouldn't put them on a top ten list. I still think that Fight Club is horribly overrated. I refuse to watch a movie starring a leading actor or actress that has "Cruise" in their name and Vanilla Sky has two. I love Fifth Element for Chris Tucker's scream, if nothing else.
I will admit to crying (literally) after watching Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind the first time. I don't typically cry during movies, so it was a strange thing indeed. I'm still not sure why I did. Premenstrual maybe?
ThunderEvermore
Feb 19 2008, 06:23 PM
QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 19 2008, 04:14 PM)

Your name is Winston? I love the name Winston. That's awesome. I've never actually met anybody with that name.
And NoSex is a he...just so you know, for future reference.
Yep, Winston. Named after my great uncle.
Ohhh well, haha, I apologize then, I'm not sure why I assumed.
paperplane
Feb 21 2008, 07:32 PM
Hey, what happened to that music snob thread?
NoSex
Feb 21 2008, 10:36 PM
QUOTE(paperplane @ Feb 21 2008, 06:32 PM)

Hey, what happened to that music snob thread?
I wasn't in control of that or anything (thought I'm so a senior member, har f**king har). I think it's buried somewhere in the music threads - if you want to dig it up, I'll participate.
ThunderEvermore
Feb 22 2008, 12:55 AM
Just want to let everyone know I watched Michael Clayton today and I must say it was quite fantastic. Clooney and Wilkinson are both very deserving of their nominations. Wins, not so much, but up against guys like Daniel Day-Lewis, Javier Bardem, and Casey Affleck it's no wonder.
paperplane
Feb 22 2008, 12:58 AM
QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 21 2008, 10:36 PM)

I wasn't in control of that or anything (thought I'm so a senior member, har f**king har). I think it's buried somewhere in the music threads - if you want to dig it up, I'll participate.
I ran a search, got nothing =/
NoSex
Feb 24 2008, 08:51 PM
Watching the Oscars right now and being reminded, constantly, by how much I despise the Academy. Ho hum.
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