QUOTE(kryogenix @ Sep 11 2006, 9:35 AM)

And to this point, you haven't even debunked a thing.
Kryo's right.
You havn't made a single sound argument or meaningful rebuttle. In fact, I don't think you have made one anywhere on these forums. All of your arguments consist of straw men, misinformation, fallacies, and just a complete and offensive unwillingness to listen and debate accordingly.
Unless you are willing to at least try to answer people's questions, repond to people's rebuttles, justify your positions, and recognize the opposition seriously, I suggest you abandon these forums. Telling people that they are brainwashed
(1), suggesting that people can not understand because they are not "worthy"
(2), never citing your sources - but linking your arguments, resorting to
ad hominem consistently, never really addressing people's arguments, and telling us you have secret knowledge is not convincing
(3).
I highly suggest you do some work in learning to properly debate, form an argument, justify that argument, and refute the opposition's rebuttles. Take some lessons in logic, and try some
variety of philosophy. You keep suggesting that everyone else needs lessons in such studies, but you yourself seem less proficient and less learned that anyone else here. I'm saying this because you're derailing topics and wasting a lot of our time. You are just not cooperating in a healthy manner, whatsoever.
To a degree, some of these actions may be tolerable, but that you have demonstrated, time and again, that you are just unwilling or incapable of respecting the order of debate, it is highly intolerable. Maybe if you had gained some credibility you could get away with some of this, but at your position, telling someone that they are brainwashed is just a blatant and meaningless argument from insult.
You aren't addressing anyone's arguments, you're just making assumptions about the person's positing the arguments. That isn't how you prove a point, and that certaintly is not how one should go about debating. If you want to refute someones calims, you actually have to talk about their
claims. You actually have to identify exactly
why their claims are incorrect, by forming an argument or citing relavent facts. You have to talk about their argument, not about them.
I couldn't disprove your theories on 9/11 just by calling you a "left-wing conspiracy nut-job" and saying that your claims have "already been debunked numerous times". Just as you can't disprove my rebuttles by calling me a "neo con, right-winger" and saying that my answers have already been "taken care of." I actually have to say why your theories are wrong, I would actually have to go the length to debunk them, not just say that they had been debunked. And, you would actually have to answer my questions and refut my rebuttles. You would actually have to say
why my answers are not adequate, not just say that they are and expect me to believe you.
I'm trying to help you here. If you refuse to shape up and take some advice, I'm going to have to give you a warning. Please, respect your opposition and recognize them. Spend time to form your arguments and think them through. Respond to the opposition's rebuttles and questions. Thank you.