How does someone who used to sing "im like a bird, I only fly away" go in the completely opposite direction and become promiscuous?

(for you out there who DONT know, promiscuous means:
pro·mis·cu·ous ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pr-msky-s)
adj.
Having casual sexual relations frequently with different partners; indiscriminate in the choice of sexual partners.
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AKA A EFFING SLUTTTTT

Yes, so Nelly is now a slut thanks to none other than timberland AND rap music. Yes i blame both b/c rap has been degrading women for years and timberland was the one to pick nelly up and make her put out this disgraceful "LOOSE" album

Loose ALSO means SLUT


GOD I HATE THE WORLD NOWADAYS

damn that rap music


So. Anyone like Nelly's new album?

I agree. I liked the old Nelly Furtado. Not the new Nelly Furtado.
"I'm like a bird" was a great song.

You know, there are many songs from Rock, punk rock or whatever that degrades women. rap just makes it so darn obvious. And no I don't blame any genre of music for turning Nelly into anything. No one put a gun on her head and said, "turn into a slut NOW". It was her choice and I respect that. True she was better when sang down to earth songs or something but you can't hate on types of music for what happened to her.

And to be honest, nelly sang sexual songs back then too. Right after I'm like a bird came out, her other song, "Turn Off the lights" released.... you can GUESS what it means

Matt, you're a slut!

Hmm, I've talked about this a few times. It's ehh.. I know a whole buncha girls that go aroung singing promiscuous, but they have no idea WTH it means. It's kinda funny, actually.


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QUOTE(Freaky Krazer @ Aug 16 2006, 1:16 PM)

No one put a gun on her head and said, "turn into a slut NOW". It was her choice and I respect that.

Word. No one made her into a slut. It was her choice.
Honestly. I actually like the "new" Nelly Furtado. Cmon 'Promiscuous Girl' is catchier then 'I'm Like A Bird'. I can't deny that .

She made that choice because everyone else is making that choice. Sex is in. Anything that has something to do with sex, people worship these days.

^x2 yeah and according to people who interviewed her back then back when she was earthy, she acted like a really cranky bitch. But now after promiscuous came out she's just.. mellowed out

But Kristina, it's not like she was FORCED to do it. Sure maybe it influenced her, but she still could've said no and stayed earthy like a lot of other artists.

So you think its ok that she deliberately calls herself a slut?

Well w/e then, thats your opinion

Sure it's indecent of her, but man even back then she was a bit sexual. She's just a bit... more outward about it. But you know you shouldn't base judgments over a song.. I mean.. IT'S JUST A SONG. Not everyone has to be innocent, decent, etc That's how the world is and we can all deal with it. It's funny how we bitch at artists who changed instead of artists who started out as sluts.

She probably was forced by her management to do this different angle. The world is changing. And if you want to get somewhere, you have to change with it. At least in the music industry.

She could've said no and found a different management. Sure it's not as easy as it sounds but if she was true to her music then she wouldn't have changed.

And who knows? maybe she LIKES her new self.

Contracts? Various other crappy loopholes?

I dont know. But her transformation was just whoa.

okay I'm SURE she sang sex songs back then, guys. I'm sure she's as much of as slut as she was except now she practically brags it

But seriously guys loosen up on poor old nelly.

Why? She's just turning into everyone else. Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, uhm, who else..


Nothings original anymore.

I don't think that "Turn off the Lights" was intended to be about sex. It's about everyone being the same deep inside, and that we shouldn't judge based on apperances.

I don't like the new Nelly, but it was her choice. I don't blame Timbaland or rap music.



She won a grammy for her first album. "Loose" won't win her a damn thing.

it's really her choice if she wants to be this type of person. you can't really do anything about it.

^oh I thought it was... oh well but guys I'm suuure she sang some sex songs if not Turn off the lights


well if you don't like unoriginality then just don't listen to her. Complaining about her is just like.. a waste of time.

What I don't get is Matt blaming Timberland and some other rap artists...

You know who's good, though? Regina Spektor. I'm starting a topic...

Who the heck is Timberland? DO ya'll mean Justin Timberlake?!

Everyone has to reinvent their image to fit in with soceity's view of everything.

And why can't I complain? I have listened to her. She's sucks, IMO. I can say that. And its not a matter of me not liking unoriginality.


And I have nothing better to do with my time. =/

^x2rofl so random... I remember getting introduced to Regina Spektor back then when I was in CB chat. And someone was talking about her (I forgot who). And then I listened to her song Somedays and got hooked. Now I just..got tired of her..

Kristina..cuz complaining is very unhealthy

No, Kristina. Timbaland is a ridiculously well-established music producer and rap artist. If we meant Justin, we would say so. Two completely different people.

Well I didn't know who Timbaland was so. Whatever.

Well, I'm fairly healthy. Mentally.

^
Timbaland (born Timothy Z. Mosley in Norfolk, Virginia on March 10, 1971) is an American hip hop and R&B record producer and rapper whose style influenced both genres, even helping to blur the distinction between the two. With partner Magoo, he is a member of hip-hop group Timbaland & Magoo.

Timbaland is similar to producers such as Phil Spector, Brian Eno, or Norman Whitfield in that he helped to redefine the sound of an entire genre of music with an immediately recognizable production style. The songs he produces feature unusual arrangements, sounds, and instrumentation, tied together by a trademark sense of space and rhythm. Like Spector and Whitfield, Timbaland's production sometimes overshadows the credited performer and becomes the actual "star" of the song. With songwriters Steve "Static" Garrett and childhood friend Missy Elliott, Timbaland has helped to create some of the most successful songs in modern pop music and urban music, including singles for Aaliyah, Ginuwine, Jay-Z, Justin Timberlake, Ludacris, and Nelly Furtado, among others.

Lalalal Nelly was NOT a slut back in the day, she was a bird

an innocent bird

then she became a slut to fit in w/ the crowd

derr

Thanks.



But whatever. Matt asked if we liked Nelly's new album and I was stating my reason(s) why I didn't. So. Whatever. Moving on with life.

Actually, ZapatoDelFuego, she always had issues. Hip Hop was always a part of her life. For Halloween as a kid, she and her friends would dress up as TLC, with the condoms and everything. In a recent interview, her excuse was, "I never knew I wasn't black."

If she could just be... a role model LIKE PINK WHO SPOKE OUT AGAINST STUPID GIRLS then we would have less sex in life

DID YOU ALL KNOW THAT LITTLE KIDS (as young as FIVE) are having SEX because its been reported they got the ideas FROM MUSIC VIDEOS THAT ARE "RATED" PG!!!!

and they arent

Yeah, the video for "Promiscuous" is rated a "PG" video.

I'm Like A Bird was a little slice of pop perfection...

Maneater is a MASSIVE slice of dance GENIUS.

Seriously. I admire her for producing two totally different sounds, and looks, and pulling them both off. plus, she is f**kin gorgeous. want her babies, please.

She already has a baby, James. And she's two. Her name is Nevis (NEE-vis).

Yeah I thought she was married until my sister told me she just got knocked up with a bastard kid.

She looks like an alien now and her SINGING voice is sh1t

when she says: "PROMISCIOUS BOY AKDJKASJDSA" she sounds like a f**king 4 year old

roflmfao, Freaky Krazer.

Oh. well i want her NEXT baby, please.

and if she were singing a huge ballad, then i would see the argument about her singing voice... but as it is i dont really care, as it is perfectly suited for what she is actually doing,

No, she looks more beautiful in my opinion. Maybe more of .. a "slut" -_- but I like how she looks now. But when it comes to sound I guess she was better back then, but jesus she does NOT sound like a 4-year old.

femme_fatale4160 I'm serious! I was like.. WOAH nelly cleaned up her act! >.<

I still like her old music. She doesn't even sound like she's singing on her new album. It'a all done with a synthesizer.

I love her old songs too. Powerless, iI'm like a bird... classic stuff.

But maneater and promiscuous make me f**kin dance, man! GOOD tuneage!

and she isnt a 'slut'.

she has a great look and she knows it... problem? nuh-uh

And how is she not a slut?

^I second this question. How?

Well I'm thinking how she acts in music videos is ...a wee bit different from real life? kinda like how we are online and irl

a slut to me implies more than just a style of dress.

a woman who uses her sexuality to get ahead isnt 'slutty'. she's smart to use what she's got. and hell, i am NOT complaining. just because she can dance and flirt in a tree minute video says nothing about who she actually is.

oh. and im the same offline. just noisier. and possibly more argumentative.

QUOTE(femme_fatale4160 @ Aug 16 2006, 1:38 PM)

She won a grammy for her first album. "Loose" won't win her a damn thing.

She probably won't win a award from the Grammys. But she probably will win something from the MTV's awards.

QUOTE(ZapatoDelFuego @ Aug 16 2006, 1:50 PM)

she became a slut to fit in w/ the crowd

Maybe she did it to sell more albums, who knows. Madonna reinvented herself millions of times, give Nelly a damn break people. Let her be whatever the hell she wants to be.

^2x Of course you're not complaining.

OH OH MTV. Those people are communists.

*cough*




pro·mis·cu·ous ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pr-msky-s)
adj.
Having casual sexual relations frequently with different partners; indiscriminate in the choice of sexual partners.

^ so she sings abou tbeing promiscuous... does that mean that she IS?

and no, of course i'm not complaining

and while she is still making music that can make people dance like hell and turn up the radio in the car, as well as making a nice little success story for herself and her daughter, im not really sure why other people are, either.

and GAH this moves fast. much editting

Matt, writing a song about it doesn't mean it represents her entirely. Who knows maybe she wrote it for fun or to.. attract the crowd like you guys were saying.


WERD seriously guys. She is what she chooses to be. No matter how unreal it looks.

But we're not discussing Madonna. That was a completely different time.

We're discussing Nelly F.

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I hate her so you can drop this.. i was just statin my opinion yo

oh, i meant to quote and agree with liz as well.

so... because madonna isnt the primary topic of a thread, no one can draw comparisons? dont be so silly. and what do you mean, 'it was a different time'? madonna is STILL reinventing herself time and again...

and believe it or not, zapato, we dont actually NEED your particiaption to continue the discussion... funny that

Lol this is soo funny. We're all taking it to a whole new level...

I would like to see a Celebrity Deathmatch episode between Nelly F. and Madonna though.. boy that would be fun.