MySpace layouts in particular. Here are examples:

http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13386
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13385
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13384
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13383
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13382
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13364
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13299
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13181

What the hell? How on earth did those get through the queue? Those are piss poor. And those aren't even all of them! It's basically taking an image from Google, adding a few brushes, putting it through a generator, adjusting the code a little and submitting it. Is that what cB layouts have come to be? Has our design staff become a bunch of rubber stamps? (Not trying to attack you, but look at those layouts!) Please, prove me wrong.

If need be, please add more links.

I can't make layouts.

Thank you for your insight, KC. -_-

I love you, Radhika.

I've noticed that a lot of these were horrible, too.

http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=13197
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=13189
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=12876
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=12845
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=12820 (Yeah, sure it's a div, might have taken a while. I still think it's horrible. Bad image quality, too.)

I'd list more, but I think you get the point. Anyone can basically just get these images off google and go mess around with a generator and TA-DA! Get that layout.

Thanks for bringing this up. This was an issue brought up not too long ago in which I said:



If anything use these layouts as examples of what not to accept. Alot, if not all, do not meet up to cB standards and even micron has voiced concern about this. To those that can accept layouts and graphics and have accepted some of these, please step it up. We want to be a site known as having the best graphics and layouts around so accept only the best. You know, the layouts and graphics that show talent and hard work put into them. [/ pep talk]

I TOTALLY AGREE x48648648748648596486465415641 and more!

those layouts have really nothing unique about them, just about anyone can make them.
for example:
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=13205
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=13089
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=13011
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=13068

no offence or anything but i really don't know what's going thought the peoples' minds when they accept it.

I'd have to say I agree. It's hard to find a good layout anymore. You have to search and search and search. I'm not very good in making layouts (the reason I have not submitted any), and most of them I could make myself.

well I didn't accept any of those, except one.

Two of them are gone from the first list because they shouldn't have been accpeted because of copyrights.

I will take in consideration of your opinions and thank you for them.'



PS
now that ive looked at some of them, I do agree that they shouldn't have been accepted. Some of them I think should have. Because theres nothing wrong with them, and its just your personal opinion that they look bad.

http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13383
^I actually sort of liked that one. :x

But you're right, cB is pretty much known for having "better than average" and good quality layouts, and lately it seems like the standard has lowered down a bit. I'm sure the mods will take note of this and start setting the standard higher.

Setting the standard Higher

I already get chewed out by plenty of people everyday for not accepting their layouts. I go by the rules that were written already for submitting layouts, i'll reject any layouts that go against the rules.

my mistake.
sorry.

Okay. Seriously. Enough with these topics.They're getting old. PM someone with powers to take them down.

Yes, the feedback is nice, but the gazillion topics about it? NOT COOL.

Just PM someone. Okay? Yeah, the layouts are, meh, but its not like anybody's ever really original anymore.


And those graphics, a lot of those can be classified as "stock images", meaning, they can be altered. They're not just for use as is.

^Yea I agree.

Everyones getting in their little up roars ever since this Hiring session has started.



Quarantine. - I do agree with you about some of those graphics, its been solved.
Some on the other hand are just your opinion that they shouldn't be accepted when there really isn't anything wrong with some.

Same goes for all the layouts, although some really shouldn't have been accepted.

Well, you're staff, do something about it. REMOVE THEM. Please.
Graphics =/= stock images.

kthx.

Well then, what is the section for Photos for, if not for photos to use in graphics?

You haven't exactly given anyone good enough reason to move them.

Crappy, is apparently all the rage.

Well when people submit pictures of themselves I tell them that we have a nice picture forum that they can go to and chat away and post their pictures.

We also have a art subforum that people also should know about.


Crappy and Unoriginal stuff is all the rage, haha.

^ that was basicly my point.
i'd define them as personal pictures.
like.. pictures you'd put on your myspace.

.....

I wasn't trying to piss you off or anything by saying "setting the standard higher". And I definitely wasn't complaining about this problem, either. I'm sorry if it came off that way...

I personally think the stock images are useful and nice...as long as they don't take up most of the graphics section.

I dont accept the pictures that look like they took it by themselves. Total myspace pictures.

If they look like some thought was given into them and could possibly be used in a graphic of some sorts, then I accept it.

Crappy is all the rage? NO.
Crappy is never 'all the rage.' By going by that standard, cB is becoming just like all the other sites. There are plenty of other places you can find stock images. Like I said, stock images ARE NOT graphics. If you want, you should create a seperate section for stock images. And btw Kristina, those images do not look like stock pictures. AT ALL. Those are pictures one would put on their MySpace. And those layouts? Sigh.

I'll edit this later. G'night.

ehm night.

You know everyone is going to have a different opinion of what looks good as in layouts and what is bad. I mean some stuff is like hands down tacky. And thats why their not accepted more than likely.

We have rules that we go by for the layouts and I think everyone goes by them well when it comes to accepting and rejecting. I suppose anyway. Some I question a lot.


The layouts posted in here have been taken care of.

You're kidding me right? Do you know how many topics people create asking for links to those stupid scriblly heart brushes? Or those stupid "gangster" brushes/fonts? ITS CRAPPY. AND EVERYONE FOR SOME PATHETIC REASON LIKES IT.

Likes it dear^
not Lies..
=X

And its true, I know theres been more than 30 people ask for those brushes.

Ah. Thank you.

But seriously. That whole gangta-colourful yet extremely tacky look everyone likes.


People who haven't been exposed to REAL graphics like the crappy stuff.

Eh I hate to say this

Then why not just not accept that tacky ugly crap
and only accept the real stuff so they get their mind right.

I don't accept the crappy stuff. Or at least try not to. I reject it in a heart beat. I don't even go near the layouts. Last time I did, yeah, that was bad. I stick with graphics.

Yeah, cB was all about having a high standard of layouts. Now...we've sort of fallen to the public's obsession with shitty brushes and images and started accepting those, too.

I don't think it should be about how popular it's going to be with the layout-using public with bad taste, but rather, upping the standard and attracting the ones with good taste over here. I mean, if they want shitty layouts, then they shouldn't be appreciated here. Blogring, maybe, but not cB.

Just kidding. =)

haha
yea..

I think most of us have a good head on our shoulders and know what were doing.

Everyone has different opinions. But I think we have plenty of sense to know what looks good and what doesn't.

Yeah, I have faith in you guys. The layouts aren't that bad, but they used to be better.

Agreed. There's got to be a set standard which separates good, outstanding, createblog worthy layouts from ones that could be cooked up in a generator and google images.

Well if you saw the ones that are rejected, you would understand

but no, I mean.. I may go through and clean it out a bit.
If thats okay with everyone? just a but, like.. if I see anything that is absolutely horrific. haha

hopefully .. in the future. we'll ban the idea.

layouts are becoming popular.
i expect people to be better at it.

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=74442
Uhm. Check out the actual layout preview. Self explanitory. ._.;

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=76321
Where does your entry text go?

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=77404
The main image doesn't load.

I think Mods need to go through all of the skins and weed out the ones that don't function properly... or images don't load...

^ Yeah, I think so too. I was going through the graphics earlier and there was someone with the same graphic twice. I'd be willing to help, if there is any help needed.

I was going through old layouts to get a feel for how the skins have changed, and I noticed that a lot of the text/div alignment in the old layouts do not match up in firefox. But yeah, the few layouts I linked were pretty old. >>;

^ I think it would be too hard to elminate for browser compatibility.... sure, it can be done, but that would eliminate A LOT of FABULOUS layouts that classic people made - it'd be too sad.

I think we have to determine which ones don't work at all - by double checking them in both FF and IE browsers

^in the rules if you actually go check
All layouts don't have to work in all browsers.

it isn't required.


http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=77057


its desired but not required.
So we can't hold it against the people if they don't work in both browsers.

^ right, I know that - but there are some that don't work at all

well then someone needs to message one of the design staffs and give us the links and someone will take care of it

I think someone said that earlier

^ K... but for example - hte OLD Xanga layouts... some of them are well... yeah
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=117
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=120

Okay, well any other ones you can just PM them to me or I suppose you can post them in here, I'll take care of them for now


I'm going through all the layouts actually now
But if I miss any you can tell me

This may take a few hours

^ wish I could help

I've gone into the Graphics section many times to reject any that, in my opinion, are below standard and I'm pretty fair when it comes to that. But it takes such a long time. Not just because of how long the queue is but the number of pages of graphics already submitted, and I mean every category. You also have to deal with the large number of people bitching and cursing about why their graphic was rejected. -__-

I'm going to make my trips to the graphics section more regular. But yes, PM a mod or post in here if it's a long list.

Heh, wow you guys are pretty fierce. ._.

^ we have to be, or else cB will cease to be known for quality graphics/layouts

QUOTE(Kristinaa @ Aug 3 2006, 10:18 PM)

People who haven't been exposed to REAL graphics like the crappy stuff.

Well I'm pretty sure that all of the design staff have been exposed to real graphics, so why are they accepting these crappy layouts?

I think the solution is simple. The mods just need to be more strict when it comes to accepting layouts, and set higher standards. Otherwise, as Rachael said, cB will cease to be known for quality graphics/layouts.

waaa seems that two of my layouts hit the list.... i mean if its THAT bad... i will remove them

I agree 110% with what other people have said.

createBlog simply needs to higher standards.

And I will, if it would be appreciated, collect links of images and layouts that don't deserve to be here.