Full Version: ABORTION VERSION TWO
Yeah it is :) It's sometimes helpful to research something you're debating before you make a stance and are declare something to be fact.
QUOTE(steve330 @ Jul 14 2007, 04:40 PM) 
Yeah it is :) It's sometimes helpful to research something you're debating before you make a stance and are declare something to be fact.
Sorry... I don't live in your demonic country
QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Jul 14 2007, 01:55 PM)
No it's not. Trust me.
He's right. It is their problem. Do something about it, or don't do anything at all and suffer the consequences. I'm not saying that the victim is the one to blame, but they can do something about it. Some people choose not to. Oh, well.
Abortion is wrong anyway. So, don't do it.
He's right. It is their problem. Do something about it, or don't do anything at all and suffer the consequences. I'm not saying that the victim is the one to blame, but they can do something about it. Some people choose not to. Oh, well.
Abortion is wrong anyway. So, don't do it.
I think its easy to say that until you're actually IN the situation. Same thing with abusive husbands.
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 14 2007, 04:20 PM)
Gay couples are just a form of population control, scientifically speaking at least, so it's better not to mention them in this. They're candidates for adopting don't get me wrong.
Infertile couples have their choice as well, if they want to be responsible for a child or not.
And no I've never lived in one...
Listen the world can never be perfect. And sadly, a human who thinks it's better to murder a child (who for all we know could have been a scientist for God sake) than to give birth to the child and put him/her up for adoption so that at least he/she has a chance to get a great family.
Could you list me some things that seem so wrong about adoption? And the buildings in which these adopted kids live in? Cuz from what I see... they eat well, they get educated, they go on field trips, they celebrate holidays.
In cases of rape or a threat to life
Infertile couples have their choice as well, if they want to be responsible for a child or not.
And no I've never lived in one...
Listen the world can never be perfect. And sadly, a human who thinks it's better to murder a child (who for all we know could have been a scientist for God sake) than to give birth to the child and put him/her up for adoption so that at least he/she has a chance to get a great family.
Could you list me some things that seem so wrong about adoption? And the buildings in which these adopted kids live in? Cuz from what I see... they eat well, they get educated, they go on field trips, they celebrate holidays.
In cases of rape or a threat to life
Some people dont consider abortion murder, because its a fetus. I dont think killing an unborn child is the same thing as killing a infant. The farther along the pregnacy is, the more and more it is like murder... but I still dont think its the same. Especially in the earlier stages of pregnacy, the fetus isnt as aware of its surroundings... and I'm sure it cant feel pain as much as a newborn / baby.
It's still a shame to abort a fetus, because it is still a human life.
And with adoption - that's obviously the better option, but could you imagine how many extra kids would be in the system if abortions were illegal? Not all of them find homes as it is.
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 14 2007, 03:44 PM)
Sorry... I don't live in your demonic country
ORLY. Oh wells, I'm quite content living in America. Maybe you're content living where you are. I'll live here any day.
QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jul 14 2007, 05:06 PM)
Some people dont consider abortion murder, because its a fetus. I dont think killing an unborn child is the same thing as killing a infant. The farther along the pregnacy is, the more and more it is like murder... but I still dont think its the same. Especially in the earlier stages of pregnacy, the fetus isnt as aware of its surroundings... and I'm sure it cant feel pain as much as a newborn / baby.
It's still a shame to abort a fetus, because it is still a human life.
It's still a shame to abort a fetus, because it is still a human life.
Hm.... how come in the legal system, if a man shot a pregnant woman (no matter what stage of pregnancy) he is charged with double homicide?
Yeah Steve, I'm really happy where I'm at
I'm glad to hear :) Where do you live, out of curiosity?
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 14 2007, 05:50 PM)
Hm.... how come in the legal system, if a man shot a pregnant woman (no matter what stage of pregnancy) he is charged with double homicide?
Yeah Steve, I'm really happy where I'm at
Yeah Steve, I'm really happy where I'm at
I'm not completely sure, but I'm guessing because it wasnt the mothers choice? I'm not sure. Whether the person is pregnat or not, a person deserves to spend life in prison or to be executed for murdering them. So really, the second count of homicide cant really get them more punishment.
QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jul 14 2007, 10:13 PM)
I'm not completely sure, but I'm guessing because it wasnt the mothers choice? I'm not sure. Whether the person is pregnat or not, a person deserves to spend life in prison or to be executed for murdering them. So really, the second count of homicide cant really get them more punishment.
True... they don't get the death penalty for 2 counts?
Many states don't like the whole death penalty thing. We got it in Texas, it's a nice lil deterrent.
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 14 2007, 02:50 PM)
in the legal system, if a man shot a pregnant woman (no matter what stage of pregnancy) he is charged with double homicide?
Is that a fact? Where did you get that from?
no, it should not be illegal here.
i think that it should stay legal mainly for the safety of women. even if abortion became illegal, women would still try to get them. and without abortion, theyd go to non safe doctors with uncleaned utensils. not only is extrememly dirty, but they can delvelop infections..which wouldnt exactly be great.
and also, with the women who get pregnant from rape..it's not fair for them to live through a pregnancy that was from rape. yes, you can say that they can just put it up for adoption, but most teenage girls dont have the strength or capabilities to endure a pregnancy that goes full term. i, personally would not want to go through 9 months of my life having to think about that rape.
i think that it should stay legal mainly for the safety of women. even if abortion became illegal, women would still try to get them. and without abortion, theyd go to non safe doctors with uncleaned utensils. not only is extrememly dirty, but they can delvelop infections..which wouldnt exactly be great.
and also, with the women who get pregnant from rape..it's not fair for them to live through a pregnancy that was from rape. yes, you can say that they can just put it up for adoption, but most teenage girls dont have the strength or capabilities to endure a pregnancy that goes full term. i, personally would not want to go through 9 months of my life having to think about that rape.
New official rule of this thread -- you cannot debate here if you have no idea what you're even debating about.
And the whole double homicide thing, it's true -- that's a good question; I personally don't think it should be that way and at the moment have no power to change that, but perhaps it is because they are in essence preventing the fetus from ever living (which is what killing a person is, in all literal meanings), although it is not yet living. It also might depend on how far along the pregnancy is. I know there was that one high-profile case, Scott something killed his pregnant wife or whatever, but she was 8 or 9 months pregnant...I think anyone would consider it a life at that point. It may be the same as abortion (because, in case you didn't know, abortion in America is only legal in the first trimester).
And wait a minute, didn't you say once you were in the Army or something? Marines? As in United States?
According to him, it's double homocide even if she's only 5 weeks pregnant.
Is it double homicide if there's little spermies in the woman's twat?
DUH Michelle, how could you even ask that?!
PS, Rape is totally the victims fault. Dumb bitch shouldn't have been looking like she wanted it.
PS, Rape is totally the victims fault. Dumb bitch shouldn't have been looking like she wanted it.
QUOTE(Rachel @ Jul 15 2007, 12:59 AM)
DUH Michelle, how could you even ask that?!
Shit, I'm sorry. Just making sure. :T Gotta keep my facts straight, y'know?
Yeah. Dumb hoes should fight harder to keep their legs closed and not let the rapist get in.
Stupid bitch, teach her to have a vagina
Yeah. Vagina = always expect any penis to get in, even forcibly.
Bitch just needs to shut her mouth and take it like a Tama... I mean man.
Or better yet keep their mouth open so he can finish inside of it and all over her whore ass face.
Or ears. I hear ear sex is whats going down these days. I don't think you would need an abortion if you used ear sex.
Wow, so you kill two birds with one stone. Awesome! Get raped in the ear, no abortions.
QUOTE(ersatz @ Jul 15 2007, 01:15 AM)
New official rule of this thread -- you cannot debate here if you have no idea what you're even debating about.
And the whole double homicide thing, it's true -- that's a good question; I personally don't think it should be that way and at the moment have no power to change that, but perhaps it is because they are in essence preventing the fetus from ever living (which is what killing a person is, in all literal meanings), although it is not yet living. It also might depend on how far along the pregnancy is. I know there was that one high-profile case, Scott something killed his pregnant wife or whatever, but she was 8 or 9 months pregnant...I think anyone would consider it a life at that point. It may be the same as abortion (because, in case you didn't know, abortion in America is only legal in the first trimester).
And wait a minute, didn't you say once you were in the Army or something? Marines? As in United States?
I was never in the military... unless you're speakin to someone else. Do you have a post/thread of me making that claim?
QUOTE(Elba @ Jul 15 2007, 12:55 AM)
Is that a fact? Where did you get that from?
CourtTV.
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 14 2007, 11:19 PM)
CourtTV.
Ooooh super reliable!!
tamacracker go to bed like you said you were when you pussied out of the fight you started.
is that harry calling?
is that harry calling?
QUOTE(Rachel @ Jul 15 2007, 02:22 AM)
Ooooh super reliable!!
Aren't those based on real cases?
If not then my knowledge in law is pretty screwed.
QUOTE(shotgunFUNERAL @ Jul 15 2007, 02:22 AM)
tamacracker go to bed like you said you were when you pussied out of the fight you started.
is that harry calling?
is that harry calling?
I wouldn't waste my time with you... online at least. Face to face, I'd make you eat your own words.
And you started the e-fight, don't forget that.
say we're talking about rape here again, and we're in the child's point of view. so let's say the mother was raped, abortion was illegal, and had to raise the child. i wonder how you would think of life if you knew that your dad was a rapist and your mom didn't really want you 
in addition, clotheshangers were used back in the days, sooo why not just KEEP IT LEGAL, so those that need it/want it, can get them; those who don't approve of it, stay out of other people's business. we're not making you get abortions. it's a choice
in addition, clotheshangers were used back in the days, sooo why not just KEEP IT LEGAL, so those that need it/want it, can get them; those who don't approve of it, stay out of other people's business. we're not making you get abortions. it's a choice
YOU ARE SAYING THAT IF SOMEONE MURDERS A PREGNANT WOMAN AT ANY STAGE OF HER PREGNANCY, IT IS CONSIDERED DOUBLE HOMICIDE.
I highly doubt that's true because it would be ridiculous if she was only, say 4 weeks pregnant.
I highly doubt that's true because it would be ridiculous if she was only, say 4 weeks pregnant.
QUOTE(Elba @ Jul 15 2007, 02:26 AM)
YOU ARE SAYING THAT IF SOMEONE MURDERS A PREGNANT WOMAN AT ANY STAGE OF HER PREGNANCY, IT IS CONSIDERED DOUBLE HOMICIDE.
I highly doubt that's true because it would be ridiculous if she was only, say 4 weeks pregnant.
I highly doubt that's true because it would be ridiculous if she was only, say 4 weeks pregnant.
But what if the former father planned on having the kid with the woman. But now she's dead and so is his unborn child. Do you understand?
I know abortion should be a choice... I'm pro-choice to an extent.
Guys, it's homicide not homocide
Alright I'm outs!
elba it is double homocide
right?????
right?????
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 14 2007, 11:29 PM)
But what if the former father planned on having the kid with the woman. But now she's dead and so is his unborn child. Do you understand?
I know abortion should be a choice... I'm pro-choice to an extent.
I know abortion should be a choice... I'm pro-choice to an extent.
You're pro choice? Why are you debating as pro life?
& What if the father didn't plan on having the kid?
QUOTE(terrible1fi @ Jul 14 2007, 11:29 PM)
elba it is double homocide
right?????
right?????
haha no
QUOTE(Elba @ Jul 15 2007, 02:31 AM)
You're pro choice? Why are you debating as pro life?
& What if the father didn't plan on having the kid?
haha no
& What if the father didn't plan on having the kid?
haha no
I dunno, I don't know the outcome to that. I could ask my lady, she's a paralegal in a law firm in which only do high profile cases. Maybe she'll know the answer, I'll even post the convo tomorrow
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 15 2007, 01:24 AM)
I wouldn't waste my time with you... online at least. Face to face, I'd make you eat your own words.
And you started the e-fight, don't forget that.
right, so lets take online personally from now on.And you started the e-fight, don't forget that.
i remember you sending me a message about how you'd "knock me the fuck out", but yet i started it? suck on this, bitch.
QUOTE(shotgunFUNERAL @ Jul 15 2007, 02:35 AM)
right, so lets take online personally from now on.
I can say the same for you, you made that thread because I caused you to take it personal, and the outcome was you attacking me.
Bitch? Another personal attack?... And going off topic? Damn child.
Reported.
lol soft feelings.
actually, it was fun in games. the whole chat knew it was a joke, but you on the other hand, took it personally. i'm sorry to have offended you, dear sir.
whatever shall i do with a report about me?
whatever shall i do with a report about me?
QUOTE(shotgunFUNERAL @ Jul 15 2007, 02:40 AM)
actually, it was fun in games. the whole chat knew it was a joke, but you on the other hand, took it personally. i'm sorry to have offended you, dear sir.
whatever shall i do with a report about me?
whatever shall i do with a report about me?
Oh I see how it is... so moderators have the right to disrespect others, and not be warned for it? You should become a cop.
Alright gotta go, finished my emails oh and I'll re-report your post tomorrow where there's other mods to recieve it.
QUOTE(shotgunFUNERAL @ Jul 15 2007, 02:35 AM)
right, so lets take online personally from now on.
i remember you sending me a message about how you'd "knock me the fuck out", but yet i started it? suck on this, bitch.
i remember you sending me a message about how you'd "knock me the fuck out", but yet i started it? suck on this, bitch.
will you train me? you seem to be in tip top shape and probably the best around.
you're as well, off topic.
reported.
you're as well, off topic.
reported.
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 15 2007, 01:42 AM)
Alright gotta go, finished my emails oh and I'll re-report your post tomorrow where there's other mods to recieve it.
thank you, dearly. i really hope all is sorted out.pussy
Stooooop
I know no one freaking mods this forum (
) but let's try to keep any back-and-forth sarcastic material to a minimum (not saying it shouldn't be there at all, but it's a lot of that page; it was funny) and the fighting to PMs (that shouldn't be here at all). Please?
I know no one freaking mods this forum (
) but let's try to keep any back-and-forth sarcastic material to a minimum (not saying it shouldn't be there at all, but it's a lot of that page; it was funny) and the fighting to PMs (that shouldn't be here at all). Please?
OK.
So, uh, how about that abortion?
So, uh, how about that abortion?
Abortions abort things.
Ain't nobody gon tell me wat 2 dew!
shutup bitch get back in the kitchen and make me babies
Abortion should be legal, safe and rare. Now someone argue/agree with me.
^ I completely DISAGREE!! Abortion should be ILLEGAL ... sadly I have no arguments. 
Oh, for those who don't understand, this is a joke and isn't supposed to be taken seriously. Do not bash me, I repeat, do not bash me.
*sigh*
Oh, for those who don't understand, this is a joke and isn't supposed to be taken seriously. Do not bash me, I repeat, do not bash me.
*sigh*
I hope you find some arguments soon.
I don't. Seriously, being that I'm really sexually active, it makes it hard to pick a side. If I should get pregnant, I think I'll abort it. I'm actually more pro abortion than otherwise ...
You just can't understand the scare of being pregnant at 19 or less.
I'm blabbing because I'm PMSing.
You just can't understand the scare of being pregnant at 19 or less.
I'm blabbing because I'm PMSing.
QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 17 2007, 03:48 AM)
I don't. Seriously, being that I'm really sexually active, it makes it hard to pick a side. If I should get pregnant, I think I'll abort it. I'm actually more pro abortion than otherwise ...
You just can't understand the scare of being pregnant at 19 or less.
I'm blabbing because I'm PMSing.
You just can't understand the scare of being pregnant at 19 or less.
I'm blabbing because I'm PMSing.
If you think you'd want to abort it if you ever did get pregnant, then how can you possibly be pro life? Nobody likes abortions. It's easy for people to sit back and condem it until they're actually in a certain situation, like pregnant themselves.
I'm pro choice, but if I got pregnant now (I'm 18 and a virgin btw), I would keep it... even though I'm not ready to. But I cant imagine not having the choice if it was illegal.
QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jul 17 2007, 06:25 AM)
If you think you'd want to abort it if you ever did get pregnant, then how can you possibly be pro life? Nobody likes abortions. It's easy for people to sit back and condem it until they're actually in a certain situation, like pregnant themselves.
I'm pro choice, but if I got pregnant now (I'm 18 and a virgin btw), I would keep it... even though I'm not ready to. But I cant imagine not having the choice if it was illegal.
I'm pro choice, but if I got pregnant now (I'm 18 and a virgin btw), I would keep it... even though I'm not ready to. But I cant imagine not having the choice if it was illegal.
She's not pro life. She said she was on the fence, but leaning more towards pro choice than pro life.
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