rap with a real message, real emotion, real poetry = fine by me.
rap with "all my bitches and hoes, up in my crib, drinking bacardi, as if it were thier birthday", "gangstas", "bling", "ice", saying that rape and shooting is ok and is part of a real man's life = shut the f**k up.
Full Version: What's Wrong With Rap?
every genre of music has brainless lyrics, sad to say, and rap is no exception. but for all the "G-units" and "dipset"s theres a JMD or a C.A.D.E.T.S. the hip-hop scene, like other types of music, is become commercialized, which is what we witness when we hear these despicably untalented "artists". Unfortunately, there is nothing we can do about it as hip hop has given its soul to corporate america, making the brainless puppets that you hear on your radios rise to the top, and the real talent of the industry, sadly sink to the bottom.
i think rap is just fast talking with music in the background. i like rock wayyy better.
BUT rap isn't always about sex and drugs. just only in the US. other countries have rap music about politics.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4950692.stm
BUT rap isn't always about sex and drugs. just only in the US. other countries have rap music about politics.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4950692.stm
mmm for me, i know there are some pretty good rap writers out there. but i don't really find rap all that interesting cuhz to me, it's not music and it's sorta pointless to listen to, considering how a lot of rappers rap extremely fast and you can't understand what they're trying to say anyways.. 
I honestly don't know what to add on to that list, but you've pretty much covered it. A few rap songs aren't all that bad, like 'Best Friend' by Diddy, a couple of songs by Will Smith, or 'Jesus Walks' by Kanye West. It all depends on how you look at the song, really. Best Friend talks about Diddy's relationship with God, and how God has helped him to succeed and gave Diddy faith in God even when things were going rough. Jesus Walks deals with religion as well; there definitely isn't any booty-shaking in those two music videos.
Of course, there are some pretty bad rap videos out there, with nothing but girls, cars, and grillz [how repetitive].
Those are the sort of rap songs that make some of the actually detailed and expressive raps look bad.
Of course, there are some pretty bad rap videos out there, with nothing but girls, cars, and grillz [how repetitive].
Those are the sort of rap songs that make some of the actually detailed and expressive raps look bad.
People don't like rap becaause they don't understand the history. They just think rap is what they see on the T.V when it's not. I can't put my finger on why people hate rap yet they love bands like rancid where the lead singer is rapping it's odd to me. rap isn't always about sex and drugs there's rappers like common and mos def wjo rap about life you just have to look for it
Why do i dislike rap? I think there are other ways express one's anger besides colorful language in rap songs. I already hear enough eff words in school and from 10 year olds mouths, I don't want to hear it from music.
Yemmerz f**king wins this thread, close please. (in this case disregard my signature)
all the points trashinng rap are from pl with so little knowledge of it. like i said, the "rap" on th radio is commercialized and shud be put in the pop music category. standards are very low: all you havr to do is rhyme the last syllable and ur golden...
QUOTE(vash1530 @ May 8 2006, 5:23 PM) 
all the points trashinng rap are from pl with so little knowledge of it. like i said, the "rap" on th radio is commercialized and shud be put in the pop music category. standards are very low: all you havr to do is rhyme the last syllable and ur golden...
the rap on the radio really isnt that good anymore
cept for like 3 songs
^ Agreed.
I actually like old school rap better.
I actually like old school rap better.
most people probably don't like rap because its not their taste.
i can't stand it personally
it gives me a headache
i agree with that..
i can't stand it personally
it gives me a headache
QUOTE
No one thinks there's something "wrong" with all rap; people just don't like it. It's simple.
i agree with that..
I agree with what you've listed...as too what rap music has been portrayed.
I like rap...just not all of it. Some of it is degrading...like for instance,
I'm a big fan of p. diddy...but after he said one line in his "I need a girl" song:
"Asian women be changing my linen.." I was like...
It's stuff like that...that make it hard for me to be a hard-core listener.
I like reggae music instead. Some of it can be degrading...but most of it is uplifting!
I guess rap is a tool that most people use to make a statement...or flaunt their money and what not.
I like rap...just not all of it. Some of it is degrading...like for instance,
I'm a big fan of p. diddy...but after he said one line in his "I need a girl" song:
"Asian women be changing my linen.." I was like...
It's stuff like that...that make it hard for me to be a hard-core listener.
I like reggae music instead. Some of it can be degrading...but most of it is uplifting!
I guess rap is a tool that most people use to make a statement...or flaunt their money and what not.
gimmie a break... u guys read into music too much. yeah they do degrade women but thats usually in their club songs that they put on the radio or harder sh*t they go on... the same dudes that say songs like that turn around and record how much they love their girl or sh*t like that... its not as one-sided as everyone makes it seem its just an easy cliche to point to but do yur research
ha ok.
Let me speak my peace on this since, I rap/sing.
I honestly believe that out of every genre of music with the exception of country, hip-hop today is the most pathetic excuse for music EVER
It's just so damn frail
I get tired of listening to it, and even though I try not to contribute to the repetative garbage, I get tired of participating in a genre thats just so corny
For the first time in the history of america, there is no music that black people can be proud of
None
Of course there are good artists, specific artists, such as mos def and little brother, but as far as a movement, as far as whats being PUT OUT, there is almost nothing
we've lost our soul, our consciousness, our meaning, our essence
everything that went into the forms of music that we cultivated has been lost
from the deep significance of slave spirituals, to the blues, the jazz, to rock n roll, to reggae, to early hiphop
it's all gone with the bullshit that y'all support today
when hiphop first started, up to about a decade ago, it was a music that we could hold for ourselves,and be PROUD of
when outsiders tried to step on it, we could be proud of it, and say, hey, this is hip-hop, we love it, and its our message, its our cry for help, its all we have, its us telling you how we live, and the struggles we go through
when critics tried to censor hip-hop, we could stand up and defend it
we could say, you can't censor hip-hop, yeah the messages are rough, yeah the messages are gritty, but its just the built up pain from the harsh urban life style, its just what goes on in the streets, and we have to be heard too
people started to respect hip-hop as an art form
because even though it was hard, it was still productive in the message and as an outlet
but now, what do we have?
Laffy Taffy
f**king Laffy Taffy
how the hell do i defend Laffy Taffy? or the other hundreds of songs like it?
how do i explain to somebody the significance of an art form where the most popular song is Laffy Taffy?
you can't
but on some real sh*t, i've been on a retreat from rap for a couple weeks, going onto a month actually, only rapper I listen too is myself.
Let me speak my peace on this since, I rap/sing.
I honestly believe that out of every genre of music with the exception of country, hip-hop today is the most pathetic excuse for music EVER
It's just so damn frail
I get tired of listening to it, and even though I try not to contribute to the repetative garbage, I get tired of participating in a genre thats just so corny
For the first time in the history of america, there is no music that black people can be proud of
None
Of course there are good artists, specific artists, such as mos def and little brother, but as far as a movement, as far as whats being PUT OUT, there is almost nothing
we've lost our soul, our consciousness, our meaning, our essence
everything that went into the forms of music that we cultivated has been lost
from the deep significance of slave spirituals, to the blues, the jazz, to rock n roll, to reggae, to early hiphop
it's all gone with the bullshit that y'all support today
when hiphop first started, up to about a decade ago, it was a music that we could hold for ourselves,and be PROUD of
when outsiders tried to step on it, we could be proud of it, and say, hey, this is hip-hop, we love it, and its our message, its our cry for help, its all we have, its us telling you how we live, and the struggles we go through
when critics tried to censor hip-hop, we could stand up and defend it
we could say, you can't censor hip-hop, yeah the messages are rough, yeah the messages are gritty, but its just the built up pain from the harsh urban life style, its just what goes on in the streets, and we have to be heard too
people started to respect hip-hop as an art form
because even though it was hard, it was still productive in the message and as an outlet
but now, what do we have?
Laffy Taffy
f**king Laffy Taffy
how the hell do i defend Laffy Taffy? or the other hundreds of songs like it?
how do i explain to somebody the significance of an art form where the most popular song is Laffy Taffy?
you can't
but on some real sh*t, i've been on a retreat from rap for a couple weeks, going onto a month actually, only rapper I listen too is myself.
QUOTE
but now, what do we have?
Laffy Taffy
f**king Laffy Taffy
how the hell do i defend Laffy Taffy? or the other hundreds of songs like it?
how do i explain to somebody the significance of an art form where the most popular song is Laffy Taffy?
you can't
Laffy Taffy
f**king Laffy Taffy
how the hell do i defend Laffy Taffy? or the other hundreds of songs like it?
how do i explain to somebody the significance of an art form where the most popular song is Laffy Taffy?
you can't
it signifizes how far we've come through the hard times.
its an epic song that displays how we got through our troubles and tribulations.
and how we can now shake our "Laffy Taffy" freely and get white people to buy anything. :D
QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ May 10 2006, 10:21 PM)
it signifizes how far we've come through the hard times.
hiphop itself is supposed to signify how far we've come through hard times
how we've gone from slave music, to something that every damn race can jam too
it's supposed to be our pride
our way of saying we made it
how the hell are we showing that with songs that have no significance whatsoever?
There is nothing wrong with rap.
Theres plenty of wrong with commercial rap.
All that "shawty shawty crunk crunk get low g unit" sh*t gets old, and frankly, its stupid.
Listen to some Immortal Technique, his shits real.
It'll enlighten you.
Theres plenty of wrong with commercial rap.
All that "shawty shawty crunk crunk get low g unit" sh*t gets old, and frankly, its stupid.
Listen to some Immortal Technique, his shits real.
It'll enlighten you.
Immortal Technique isn't even all that underground anymore.
Too many people listen to the kid. And he needs some new material.
Listen to some MF Doom, and Some 9th wonder and LB.
Too many people listen to the kid. And he needs some new material.
Listen to some MF Doom, and Some 9th wonder and LB.
Just because he's not "underground" anymore, doesn't take away from his ability as an artist and lyricist.
And Vol. 3 is coming out soon.
But Technique actually makes you THINK when you listen to his material. Something which is lacking in, I'd say about every rap song on MTV.
And Vol. 3 is coming out soon.
But Technique actually makes you THINK when you listen to his material. Something which is lacking in, I'd say about every rap song on MTV.
Ah I made a double post.
My bad.
My bad.
typh-a-knee 
well said.
lol Laffy Taffy....that's a good example!
and I agree on getting tired of most commercial rap music. To me...I like it for the moment, then it gets old fast.
well said.lol Laffy Taffy....that's a good example!
and I agree on getting tired of most commercial rap music. To me...I like it for the moment, then it gets old fast.
QUOTE(typh-a-knee @ May 10 2006, 7:16 PM)
ha ok.
Let me speak my peace on this since, I rap/sing.
I honestly believe that out of every genre of music with the exception of country, hip-hop today is the most pathetic excuse for music EVER
It's just so damn frail
I get tired of listening to it, and even though I try not to contribute to the repetative garbage, I get tired of participating in a genre thats just so corny
For the first time in the history of america, there is no music that black people can be proud of
None
Of course there are good artists, specific artists, such as mos def and little brother, but as far as a movement, as far as whats being PUT OUT, there is almost nothing
we've lost our soul, our consciousness, our meaning, our essence
everything that went into the forms of music that we cultivated has been lost
from the deep significance of slave spirituals, to the blues, the jazz, to rock n roll, to reggae, to early hiphop
it's all gone with the bullshit that y'all support today
when hiphop first started, up to about a decade ago, it was a music that we could hold for ourselves,and be PROUD of
when outsiders tried to step on it, we could be proud of it, and say, hey, this is hip-hop, we love it, and its our message, its our cry for help, its all we have, its us telling you how we live, and the struggles we go through
when critics tried to censor hip-hop, we could stand up and defend it
we could say, you can't censor hip-hop, yeah the messages are rough, yeah the messages are gritty, but its just the built up pain from the harsh urban life style, its just what goes on in the streets, and we have to be heard too
people started to respect hip-hop as an art form
because even though it was hard, it was still productive in the message and as an outlet
but now, what do we have?
Laffy Taffy
f**king Laffy Taffy
how the hell do i defend Laffy Taffy? or the other hundreds of songs like it?
how do i explain to somebody the significance of an art form where the most popular song is Laffy Taffy?
you can't
but on some real sh*t, i've been on a retreat from rap for a couple weeks, going onto a month actually, only rapper I listen too is myself.
Let me speak my peace on this since, I rap/sing.
I honestly believe that out of every genre of music with the exception of country, hip-hop today is the most pathetic excuse for music EVER
It's just so damn frail
I get tired of listening to it, and even though I try not to contribute to the repetative garbage, I get tired of participating in a genre thats just so corny
For the first time in the history of america, there is no music that black people can be proud of
None
Of course there are good artists, specific artists, such as mos def and little brother, but as far as a movement, as far as whats being PUT OUT, there is almost nothing
we've lost our soul, our consciousness, our meaning, our essence
everything that went into the forms of music that we cultivated has been lost
from the deep significance of slave spirituals, to the blues, the jazz, to rock n roll, to reggae, to early hiphop
it's all gone with the bullshit that y'all support today
when hiphop first started, up to about a decade ago, it was a music that we could hold for ourselves,and be PROUD of
when outsiders tried to step on it, we could be proud of it, and say, hey, this is hip-hop, we love it, and its our message, its our cry for help, its all we have, its us telling you how we live, and the struggles we go through
when critics tried to censor hip-hop, we could stand up and defend it
we could say, you can't censor hip-hop, yeah the messages are rough, yeah the messages are gritty, but its just the built up pain from the harsh urban life style, its just what goes on in the streets, and we have to be heard too
people started to respect hip-hop as an art form
because even though it was hard, it was still productive in the message and as an outlet
but now, what do we have?
Laffy Taffy
f**king Laffy Taffy
how the hell do i defend Laffy Taffy? or the other hundreds of songs like it?
how do i explain to somebody the significance of an art form where the most popular song is Laffy Taffy?
you can't
but on some real sh*t, i've been on a retreat from rap for a couple weeks, going onto a month actually, only rapper I listen too is myself.
damn i really hope u are not serious. hip hop is hardly the sorriest excuse of music out right now. first of all, hip hop is so broad today there are soooo many forms of rap... yeah commercial rap right now might not be the highest quality of music i think we've all established that in this thread, but u gotta be out of your mind to disregard all the other artists who dont' get the mtv shine or radio airplay but put out dope ass sh*t... and even if u dont like the music u cant say that theres no meaning, essence, consciousness, blah blah blah blah considering u said yourself "its just what goes on in the streets, and we have to be heard too", the streets are all about selling crack, looking fresh, and f**kin bitches... if u have a problem with that then pick up sum f**kin talib kweli. its like i said, not all rap music is degrading, but ppl wanna lump all the sh*t together. there are sooooo many artists that are nowhere near today's stereotypical commercial rapper so if u really care ask around im sure u can find a recommendation. for someone claiming to be a rapper u are full of sh*t and dont kno anything, instead of defending yur trade u sit there and trash it w/ the rest of these jokes
QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ May 11 2006, 3:01 AM)
damn i really hope u are not serious. hip hop is hardly the sorriest excuse of music out right now. first of all, hip hop is so broad today there are soooo many forms of rap... yeah commercial rap right now might not be the highest quality of music i think we've all established that in this thread, but u gotta be out of your mind to disregard all the other artists who dont' get the mtv shine or radio airplay but put out dope ass sh*t... and even if u dont like the music u cant say that theres no meaning, essence, consciousness, blah blah blah blah considering u said yourself "its just what goes on in the streets, and we have to be heard too", the streets are all about selling crack, looking fresh, and f**kin bitches... if u have a problem with that then pick up sum f**kin talib kweli. its like i said, not all rap music is degrading, but ppl wanna lump all the sh*t together. there are sooooo many artists that are nowhere near today's stereotypical commercial rapper so if u really care ask around im sure u can find a recommendation. for someone claiming to be a rapper u are full of sh*t and dont kno anything, instead of defending yur trade u sit there and trash it w/ the rest of these jokes
Sorry did you read my whole post
Of course there are good artists, specific artists, such as mos def and little brother, but as far as a movement, as far as whats being PUT OUT, there is almost nothing
thanks. now stfu.
tard.
Heh. Nice one typh-a-knee.
And its pretty obvious that rap as a whole and in general, is utter generic garbage.
And again, like other people stated, there are a few gems who stick out. Not many, but there are some.
And its pretty obvious that rap as a whole and in general, is utter generic garbage.
And again, like other people stated, there are a few gems who stick out. Not many, but there are some.
QUOTE(typh-a-knee @ May 11 2006, 12:22 AM)
Sorry did you read my whole post
Of course there are good artists, specific artists, such as mos def and little brother, but as far as a movement, as far as whats being PUT OUT, there is almost nothing
thanks. now stfu.
tard.
Of course there are good artists, specific artists, such as mos def and little brother, but as far as a movement, as far as whats being PUT OUT, there is almost nothing
thanks. now stfu.
tard.
heh... yes i DID read your whole post but i just dont think u can properly word what yur tryin to say cuz my response still correlates to wat u wrote... if u mean wats PUT OUT and as far as a movement to be what u see on MTV and BET then i guess i would have to agree with u, but rap/hip hop is far more than that and if u think that wat u see on video channels even closely represents the genre as a whole yur a f**kin idiot... regardless of if its on TV or not good, lesser-known rap is still constantly bein PUT OUT so this is where i fail to see the validity of yur point.
I also think lowly of the genre for a different reason. Like you've said, sillakilla, under-the-radar rappers don't get enough (if any at all) airtime on big networks like MTV/VH1 and are hardly aired on public radio. I think I know why -- they either aren't good or don't, as you phrased it, talk about "smoking crack and f**king bitches." Personally, I think that says a lot about the value system when it comes to the hip hop genre in that you have to make an ass of yourself, be a womanizer and a drug dealer in order to sell records (most of the time, that is).
Now don't take this the wrong way, other genres of music are falling into a conformity mold themselves, but it's more evident in rap than anywhere else, and you can't argue that.
Now don't take this the wrong way, other genres of music are falling into a conformity mold themselves, but it's more evident in rap than anywhere else, and you can't argue that.
Another big problem I have with it, is the whole mood and tone of the whole rap genre.
Somehow, shooting someone is considered "cool" in the rap genre.
Somehow, "raping a bitch" is considered cool.
Somehow, the ammount of f**king jewlery in your mouth, makes you cool.
It's just so limited and fake, the majority of the rappers out there either rap about clubbing/dancing/bitches, or, if they want to act like they're real "deep", they rap about how hard it is in the ghetto, and how "the white man its keeping them down"
Look, I used to live in one of the worst f**king neigborhoods in Chicago, its NOT AS BAD as they make it out to be.
They're exploiting this idea that somehow you have to sell crack just to make a living. Bullshit.
They're just too lazy to go out and get a job.
From what I've seen, rap gives these kids some stupid sense of arrogance, and power over other people. I mean, have you seen these "gangster" kids waddling around school?
If you step on their f**king shoes, they will FIGHT YOU.
What kind of stupid bullshit is that. They get that whole attitude from the music they listen to.
You know, its hard to take you seriously when you try and use big words like correlate and validity, yet you still can't spell out "yur", or "wat".
Somehow, shooting someone is considered "cool" in the rap genre.
Somehow, "raping a bitch" is considered cool.
Somehow, the ammount of f**king jewlery in your mouth, makes you cool.
It's just so limited and fake, the majority of the rappers out there either rap about clubbing/dancing/bitches, or, if they want to act like they're real "deep", they rap about how hard it is in the ghetto, and how "the white man its keeping them down"
Look, I used to live in one of the worst f**king neigborhoods in Chicago, its NOT AS BAD as they make it out to be.
They're exploiting this idea that somehow you have to sell crack just to make a living. Bullshit.
They're just too lazy to go out and get a job.
From what I've seen, rap gives these kids some stupid sense of arrogance, and power over other people. I mean, have you seen these "gangster" kids waddling around school?
If you step on their f**king shoes, they will FIGHT YOU.
What kind of stupid bullshit is that. They get that whole attitude from the music they listen to.
QUOTE
heh... yes i DID read your whole post but i just dont think u can properly word what yur tryin to say cuz my response still correlates to wat u wrote... if u mean wats PUT OUT and as far as a movement to be what u see on MTV and BET then i guess i would have to agree with u, but rap/hip hop is far more than that and if u think that wat u see on video channels even closely represents the genre as a whole yur a f**kin idiot... regardless of if its on TV or not good, lesser-known rap is still constantly bein PUT OUT so this is where i fail to see the validity of yur point.
You know, its hard to take you seriously when you try and use big words like correlate and validity, yet you still can't spell out "yur", or "wat".
listen to immortal technique, listen to his lyrics. that is rap.
QUOTE(typh-a-knee @ May 10 2006, 9:24 PM)
hiphop itself is supposed to signify how far we've come through hard times
how we've gone from slave music, to something that every damn race can jam too
it's supposed to be our pride
our way of saying we made it
how the hell are we showing that with songs that have no significance whatsoever?
how we've gone from slave music, to something that every damn race can jam too
it's supposed to be our pride
our way of saying we made it
how the hell are we showing that with songs that have no significance whatsoever?
you.... know i was joking right?
QUOTE(SoManyTearz @ May 12 2006, 3:28 PM)
Another big problem I have with it, is the whole mood and tone of the whole rap genre.
Somehow, shooting someone is considered "cool" in the rap genre.
Somehow, "raping a bitch" is considered cool.
Somehow, the ammount of f**king jewlery in your mouth, makes you cool.
It's just so limited and fake, the majority of the rappers out there either rap about clubbing/dancing/bitches, or, if they want to act like they're real "deep", they rap about how hard it is in the ghetto, and how "the white man its keeping them down"
Look, I used to live in one of the worst f**king neigborhoods in Chicago, its NOT AS BAD as they make it out to be.
They're exploiting this idea that somehow you have to sell crack just to make a living. Bullshit.
They're just too lazy to go out and get a job.
From what I've seen, rap gives these kids some stupid sense of arrogance, and power over other people. I mean, have you seen these "gangster" kids waddling around school?
If you step on their f**king shoes, they will FIGHT YOU.
What kind of stupid bullshit is that. They get that whole attitude from the music they listen to.
You know, its hard to take you seriously when you try and use big words like correlate and validity, yet you still can't spell out "yur", or "wat".
Somehow, shooting someone is considered "cool" in the rap genre.
Somehow, "raping a bitch" is considered cool.
Somehow, the ammount of f**king jewlery in your mouth, makes you cool.
It's just so limited and fake, the majority of the rappers out there either rap about clubbing/dancing/bitches, or, if they want to act like they're real "deep", they rap about how hard it is in the ghetto, and how "the white man its keeping them down"
Look, I used to live in one of the worst f**king neigborhoods in Chicago, its NOT AS BAD as they make it out to be.
They're exploiting this idea that somehow you have to sell crack just to make a living. Bullshit.
They're just too lazy to go out and get a job.
From what I've seen, rap gives these kids some stupid sense of arrogance, and power over other people. I mean, have you seen these "gangster" kids waddling around school?
If you step on their f**king shoes, they will FIGHT YOU.
What kind of stupid bullshit is that. They get that whole attitude from the music they listen to.
You know, its hard to take you seriously when you try and use big words like correlate and validity, yet you still can't spell out "yur", or "wat".
yeah cuz i don't know how to spell your or what... oops i mean because. its called slang fag sorry i dont type proper english all the time
QUOTE(typh-a-knee @ May 10 2006, 10:16 PM)
ha ok.
Let me speak my peace on this since, I rap/sing.
I honestly believe that out of every genre of music with the exception of country, hip-hop today is the most pathetic excuse for music EVER
It's just so damn frail
I get tired of listening to it, and even though I try not to contribute to the repetative garbage, I get tired of participating in a genre thats just so corny
For the first time in the history of america, there is no music that black people can be proud of
None
Of course there are good artists, specific artists, such as mos def and little brother, but as far as a movement, as far as whats being PUT OUT, there is almost nothing
we've lost our soul, our consciousness, our meaning, our essence
everything that went into the forms of music that we cultivated has been lost
from the deep significance of slave spirituals, to the blues, the jazz, to rock n roll, to reggae, to early hiphop
it's all gone with the bullshit that y'all support today
when hiphop first started, up to about a decade ago, it was a music that we could hold for ourselves,and be PROUD of
when outsiders tried to step on it, we could be proud of it, and say, hey, this is hip-hop, we love it, and its our message, its our cry for help, its all we have, its us telling you how we live, and the struggles we go through
when critics tried to censor hip-hop, we could stand up and defend it
we could say, you can't censor hip-hop, yeah the messages are rough, yeah the messages are gritty, but its just the built up pain from the harsh urban life style, its just what goes on in the streets, and we have to be heard too
people started to respect hip-hop as an art form
because even though it was hard, it was still productive in the message and as an outlet
but now, what do we have?
Laffy Taffy
f**king Laffy Taffy
how the hell do i defend Laffy Taffy? or the other hundreds of songs like it?
how do i explain to somebody the significance of an art form where the most popular song is Laffy Taffy?
you can't
but on some real sh*t, i've been on a retreat from rap for a couple weeks, going onto a month actually, only rapper I listen too is myself.
Let me speak my peace on this since, I rap/sing.
I honestly believe that out of every genre of music with the exception of country, hip-hop today is the most pathetic excuse for music EVER
It's just so damn frail
I get tired of listening to it, and even though I try not to contribute to the repetative garbage, I get tired of participating in a genre thats just so corny
For the first time in the history of america, there is no music that black people can be proud of
None
Of course there are good artists, specific artists, such as mos def and little brother, but as far as a movement, as far as whats being PUT OUT, there is almost nothing
we've lost our soul, our consciousness, our meaning, our essence
everything that went into the forms of music that we cultivated has been lost
from the deep significance of slave spirituals, to the blues, the jazz, to rock n roll, to reggae, to early hiphop
it's all gone with the bullshit that y'all support today
when hiphop first started, up to about a decade ago, it was a music that we could hold for ourselves,and be PROUD of
when outsiders tried to step on it, we could be proud of it, and say, hey, this is hip-hop, we love it, and its our message, its our cry for help, its all we have, its us telling you how we live, and the struggles we go through
when critics tried to censor hip-hop, we could stand up and defend it
we could say, you can't censor hip-hop, yeah the messages are rough, yeah the messages are gritty, but its just the built up pain from the harsh urban life style, its just what goes on in the streets, and we have to be heard too
people started to respect hip-hop as an art form
because even though it was hard, it was still productive in the message and as an outlet
but now, what do we have?
Laffy Taffy
f**king Laffy Taffy
how the hell do i defend Laffy Taffy? or the other hundreds of songs like it?
how do i explain to somebody the significance of an art form where the most popular song is Laffy Taffy?
you can't
but on some real sh*t, i've been on a retreat from rap for a couple weeks, going onto a month actually, only rapper I listen too is myself.
ur lost on this one... im glad that u can see the flaws in commercial rap but calling it dead as a whole is an overstatement. if ur immersed in the culture and the whole hip-hop scene (and you shud b if ur an aspiring rapper) than u know that all has not been lost with all these guys setting the u-ground scene on fire!! not to mention the other genres of terrible music thats being put out and commercialized. In rock, for example, it seems like every other band sells it's soul to be the next big thing and lets go of the music that made them popular in the first place. btw all u talkin about how IT iz so sik are stupid....hes not even in the top 20 best rappers out there. O, and MF Doom is more commercial then Immortal Technique BY FAR!!
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Sorry did you read my whole post
Of course there are good artists, specific artists, such as mos def and little brother, but as far as a movement, as far as whats being PUT OUT, there is almost nothing
thanks. now stfu.
tard.
Of course there are good artists, specific artists, such as mos def and little brother, but as far as a movement, as far as whats being PUT OUT, there is almost nothing
thanks. now stfu.
tard.
Unfortunately, as far as whats being put out, there is almost nothing.....if ur not big in hip-hop....
there [b]is still[b/][i] a rap movement, it has just changed it s outlook. Look online, go to a local battle, turn of ur radio and go immerse urself in the [i]real hip-hop culture instead of talking all this trash.
I find it funny that a whole bunch of people are hating on Rap/Hip-Hop. The most I'm hearing people say is that they hate rap for its explicit lyrics. You only hear explicit words on unedited songs. You can only get unedited songs if you buy them or download them. So that shouldn't be a problem for those who hate rap. You can't here bad language in a genre you hate unless you listen to that genre. I also read that you hear rap on the radio with cuss words. Well, the radio edits those words. You can probably still tell what the word when its bleeped out. But if you can tell, its probably because you use those words and you know what they are and mean.
I would go into more detail but class is almost over.
I would go into more detail but class is almost over.
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The integrity of any song is compromised when every half second there's a brief stop in the music.
The integrity of any song is compromised when every half second there's a brief stop in the music.
I hate the fact girls are forced to shake their booties all over the camera.
Disgusting lyrics.
Cussing.
Violence.
Stupidest music videos.
Wrong to women.
Disgusting lyrics.
Cussing.
Violence.
Stupidest music videos.
Wrong to women.
QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ May 18 2006, 6:47 PM)
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The integrity of any song is compromised when every half second there's a brief stop in the music.
The integrity of any song is compromised when every half second there's a brief stop in the music.
then stop listening to the radio and download a [pause] song or buy a [pause] cd!!!
QUOTE(n00b @ May 18 2006, 4:24 PM)
I hate the fact girls are forced to shake their booties all over the camera.
Disgusting lyrics.
Cussing.
Violence.
Stupidest music videos.
Wrong to women.
Disgusting lyrics.
Cussing.
Violence.
Stupidest music videos.
Wrong to women.
how do u figure girls are forced to shake thier booties? no one is forcing them to do sh*t they do it to make money or cuz they like it.
you guys dont get it. all rap music is not like that. if u have a problem with all that sh*t, which i can definitely understand, then say u dont like rap that talks about that... its a shame seein everyone make the same, stupid, irrational, and very generalized comments. i could listen to rap all day and not come across any of that sh*t if i listened to the right stuff. all the sh*t u guys keep listing is the sh*t on tv get ya mind right.
QUOTE(vash1530 @ May 19 2006, 6:24 AM)
then stop listening to the radio and download a [pause] song or buy a [pause] cd!!!
Or I could just skip all that altogether.
I think I'll do that.
Hmm i think its just the messages it send i mean i listen to rap all the time and i mean i do enjoy listening to ceratin songs but i mean some songs really make me tick i dont think anyone has the right to call women bitches and hoes.... its just not right... 
QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Mar 19 2006, 6:21 PM)
ok... first lets get all the cliche`s out the way....
- too much violence
- disrespects women
-cusses too much
- videos have too much ass-shaking
but this doesnt apply to all rap so im just wondering - what do ppl really have against rap music?
- too much violence
- disrespects women
-cusses too much
- videos have too much ass-shaking
but this doesnt apply to all rap so im just wondering - what do ppl really have against rap music?
Okay,I'mma do this.
just reply to the first post,because that's what i feel like doing.
When somebody doesn't like a genre of music,they look for all the bad in it,and totally disregard the good.Personally,I dislike rap.To the point of actually hating it.I'm more of a hardcore kid,but whatever.Rap music is extremeley vulgar,in my point of veiw,but that's on a stereotypical basis.I don't have very much room to talk,because rock is just as bad,if not worse.I also think they have NO talent,because just anybody could go up and make some stupid rhyme that has absolutely no other point than to express how cool their "GRILLZ" look,or how awesome their shoes are(air force ones,nelly)or how "FINE"a chick with a huge ass is.It's all about opinions in this case;All about what sounds good to you.I like really loud,blast your ears off,sweet guitar solos,scream your head off music,while some people might like.....however you would descirbe rap(I'd do it,really,but it'd come out differently than intended)so this wouldn't be much of an arguement for me.
it's got no fact to back it up,because every other genre of music has bad sh*t all in it,and really it's based purely on opinion.
people are gonna like what music they like,
we need to stop being so mother f**king retarded and just accept it,goddamnit.
^seriously
I'm a hardcore emo lover kiddie.
hah.
I just dislike rap and country music
they give me a headache
although i can listen to powerpop. I love some powerpop.
But Its a matter of how you look at rap music.
I mean some people are ehm.. racist and just dislike it because of that. although yes theres white people but their just as bad.
[I meant musicly talented there]
blahhh
I can't type everything else thats in my head.
I'm a hardcore emo lover kiddie.
hah.
I just dislike rap and country music
they give me a headache
although i can listen to powerpop. I love some powerpop.
But Its a matter of how you look at rap music.
I mean some people are ehm.. racist and just dislike it because of that. although yes theres white people but their just as bad.
[I meant musicly talented there]
blahhh
I can't type everything else thats in my head.
QUOTE(n00b @ May 18 2006, 6:24 PM)
I hate the fact girls are forced to shake their booties all over the camera.
Disgusting lyrics.
Cussing.
Violence.
Stupidest music videos.
Wrong to women.
Disgusting lyrics.
Cussing.
Violence.
Stupidest music videos.
Wrong to women.
No one forces girls to shake anything on videos. They get paid to dance like that, and there are some that do it for free if the rapper is famous enough. They have a free will.
f**k it rap music has prolly influenced your favorite artist so get over yourselves
i like rap but sometimes there lyrics make me cringe.
It kills brain cells. And it talks about how much money they make and how good they have it, also they make alot of songs about their 24'' rims. Congratulations. Good for them. Most people I ask say they like rap because of the beat. I think it was 50 Cent, or Jay-Z that was interviewed and he claims that the lyrics of his songs made no sense. Rap sucks.
i don't like black people music. (or country).
i mean, it's not that i say "a black guy sings this, i don't like it."
i just listen to what i like
and inevitablly, when people ask me what music i like, they come to the conclusion that i don't like black people music.
so that's why i don't like rap.
i mean, it's not that i say "a black guy sings this, i don't like it."
i just listen to what i like
and inevitablly, when people ask me what music i like, they come to the conclusion that i don't like black people music.
so that's why i don't like rap.
Yes I can understand why people do not like rap, it's not "music" they say... BUT I LOVE IT. The beats get me dancing, and they lyrics go hard. But now rap is changing,yeah disrespecting women, I hate that too. But old school is fine.
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 2 2006, 6:11 AM)
i don't like black people music. (or country).
i mean, it's not that i say "a black guy sings this, i don't like it."
i just listen to what i like
and inevitablly, when people ask me what music i like, they come to the conclusion that i don't like black people music.
so that's why i don't like rap.
i mean, it's not that i say "a black guy sings this, i don't like it."
i just listen to what i like
and inevitablly, when people ask me what music i like, they come to the conclusion that i don't like black people music.
so that's why i don't like rap.
Exactly. Country isn't black music!
I don't like Asian music either! So sue me. I think it's crap when people say "You don't like black people music". WTF? Rap/hip hop are music genres for the love of God.
I hate rap. I hate 50 cent and whomever. I just can't stand him calling WOMEN ho's or whores. The only rap song I listen to is "when I'm gone" by Eminem. Why? It relates to me, my life, every single word in that song relates to me.
I just can't relate to 50 cent's songs, I just can't.
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All a nigga really need is a lil bit,
not a lot baby girl just a lil bit..
we can head to the crib in a lil bit..
I can show you how I live in a lil bit,
I wanna unbutton your pants just a lil bit,
take 'em off pull em down just a lil bit,
get to kissin' and touchin' a lil bit...
get to lickin', a lil bit...
not a lot baby girl just a lil bit..
we can head to the crib in a lil bit..
I can show you how I live in a lil bit,
I wanna unbutton your pants just a lil bit,
take 'em off pull em down just a lil bit,
get to kissin' and touchin' a lil bit...
get to lickin', a lil bit...
Can someone please explain that?
If I should hear my child saying "I wanna unbutton your pants just a lil bit", I'm going to KICK HIS ASS. I don't know what to say SillaKilla, I'm sorry but most Rap songs are crap.
Can't understand what he's saying ROFL...
He wants the girl to have sex with him.
And rap isnt just " black people music" you have asians. whites, and people all over the world who listen to it
He wants the girl to have sex with him.
And rap isnt just " black people music" you have asians. whites, and people all over the world who listen to it
It's not that I don't like the style of the music- I love the beats of the music. It's just that a lot of the lyrics demoralize women and make them all seem like.. scum. I'm not generalizing that all rap is like that, but I feel it draws a stereotype that all girls are like that.
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