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Statistik
QUOTE(brownsugar @ Jul 4 2006, 11:25 PM) *
This is a verbal warning. Please stop posting things so completely irrelevant to the topic.


I hope that was towarded to Nick. Oh wait, evan. My bad. He spammed! Son this is createblog not createspam .. get it straight
blucheri
everyone is rapping about the same thing

and can we stop making up dances. its getting annoying. No one is real anymore. it sux.
AngryBaby
QUOTE(Statistik @ Jul 4 2006, 10:26 PM) *
I hope that was towarded to Nick. Oh wait, evan. My bad. He spammed! Son this is createblog not createspam .. get it straight




psh, in all honesty, i'd rather look like nick cannon anyday than look like....well..... you....

oh yeah and um,

not all hip hop degrades women, someone that knows nothing about the genre would say something like that. meh, like anyones opinions ar gonna change off of this anyway.
Statistik
QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Jul 4 2006, 11:32 PM) *
psh, in all honesty, i'd rather look like nick cannon anyday than look like....well..... you....

oh yeah and um,

not all hip hop degrades women, someone that knows nothing about the genre would say something like that. meh, like anyones opinions ar gonna change off of this anyway.


Well the truth is .. that you are ugly .. lmfao .. yes ugly .. remember that picture you posted? Almost made me pass out .. kid needs to get buffer, needs to know how to dress, needs to know how to prevent himself from getting exposed on the Internet, and needs to know some shit about hip hop .. you don't belong in this thread .. if you gon spam, do it somewhere else .. I know more facts about hip hop than you, so don't trip .. You DO NOT LOOK LIKE NICK CANNON .. YOU JUST LOOK more like A 'Spoiled/Abused Nick Cannon' face .. I mean sorry but you do make nick cannon look bad .. hahahahaha
AngryBaby
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EVANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN,

Is hot.





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Evan - Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk . Evan is hot . I said a NUDE picture btw .
Oh, be jealous. I got to see it first .
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g150/1up...eorVideo024.jpg
^Evan. Not me btw... .




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lol..yea i got to see a picture of you, finally! one word "HOTNESS :)"




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Felicia's prettyyyy.
And woo. The Evan guyy, hottieee.




QUOTE
*See Evan's picture*
*dies*
Oh God so hott....




QUOTE
Evan: Yeah, so probably a whole bunch of people are gonna say this, but yeah you're hot. XD




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EVANS HOT.

-Christine





:)
Afrodisiac-aka-Antho
f**k chat. they fightin'. oh shit, its bout to burn like a badass perm. it's bout to go down like a muthafucking playground
AngryBaby
were you in chat^ f**k chats not working for me for some reason.


i got antho into it haha
Afrodisiac-aka-Antho
cause you're a niggar
AngryBaby
QUOTE
the bitches love me!
hahahaha
Afrodisiac-aka-Antho
stubborn.gif It's true....














laugh.gif damn i felt like sov
priyas
Statisk--you are acting like your the defender of rap. haha.

...some rappers are hott.


magicfann
there is nothing wrong with rap, there are those who like it, those who don't care, and homos


//EDIT

ok..so i decided to take the time to read everything from like page 3 (the last time i posted here..) till now..and..

QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 24 2006, 11:03 PM) *
you don't debate with me. It can't be done, not in this topic.

it's personal opinion.

i've said it before, i'll say it again.

music is personal opinion, personal taste.
there's nothing wrong with rap, except that i don't like it. but tha'ts just for me.
for someone else, it may be the objectionable lyrics.
for another, it's probably the most relaxing music in the world.

and jason, i don't choose the music i listen to based on the race of the artist- i choose it based on whether or not i like it, which looking to see who sings it first.

it's other people, usually those who like rap, who are all like "dang, you just don't like black people music, don't you"

i usually counter with "i don't like country either", but usually it's not worth the effort.


then why the hell are you arguing this entire time, if you think it's personal preference then f**k off cuz you won't be able to win this debate (if it is still one)

QUOTE(RockizLife @ Jun 24 2006, 11:57 PM) *
I guess we could make a compromise and say it doesn't take as much talent? It'd be nice to shut this arguing over nothing up.
Exactly. I'd be happy to help you improve. Everyone can improve, and that definitely includes me. I've got years to go before I ever truly master rock music.

Sorry, I have dial-up and it's hard to keep up with these posts comin in so fast, haha.


uhm...as MUCH talent? where the f**k did you get that? you try rapping then...uhm ok GG

QUOTE(NinjaxMageLayouts @ Jun 30 2006, 2:49 PM) *
Ok to your "wow is it really hard to accept that not all rap degrades women"Well no its not hard to accept because i know not all of it does.Its the damn majority of it.And no i can control my anger because if i couldnt i would of either killed one of you already or just flamed and been banned from cb.

-and now once you read that im guessing your going to say "oh really?so show us the proof"Well sorry hun been searching cant find no proof.But i know there is.I got more to say to this but i'll wait till yu reply. stubborn.gif


uh ok even though i got into an argument with ricexboy over american football im on his side cuz you sound like a friggin dumbass..

the majority of rap degrades women? ok..don't listen to it we don't give a shit.
banned from cB? i don't mind
you dont' have PROOF? WOW THEN DON'T f**king TALK you're a friggin moron

uh duhhrrrr
/google rap

uhm good game?

YOU ARE B U T T H U R T
C R Y M O R E
LOLLOLLOLOL

ok here i'll provide you with an analogy ok?

a guy logs in IRC on some random clan channel...he's looking for say...a CAL-M/CAL-P team for season 18 (cal-m and cal-p are high-skilled leagues and generally difficult to get into)
the recruiter asks for experience and the guy says he's played CAL-P in season 17 on so-and-so team and has also played in various tournaments

well ok, thats nice...
and then the recruiter asks for proof..
and the guy says, you can ask my buddies on said team, and they'll tell you i played with them
well that isnt good enough, cuz the recruiter wants proof that the person has done what he has said

which brings me back here, you're saying that you can't find any proof? well then get the f**k out we don't wanna find the goddamn proof for you thats undermining our points

ok so then i was like kekekekekek....
sadolakced acid
the worthlessness of a post is directlly related to the number of personal attacks contained in it.
no-name
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 5 2006, 12:30 PM) *
the worthlessness of a post is directlly related to the number of personal attacks contained in it.

agree...this topic is sort of pointless
magicfann
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 5 2006, 12:30 PM) *
the worthlessness of a post is directlly related to the number of personal attacks contained in it.

LOL THE INTERNET
fameONE
I wish I was around for the beginning of this debate, considering I am the intelligent advocator of hiphop when it comes to musically biased (and ignorant) forums such as Createblog. Nonetheless, I feel as though HipHop music, as a genre, is targeted, and exploited, and seems to be used as a tool to stagnate the acceptance of African American culture. Its ridiculous that the Ying Yang Twinz get more radio airplay than The Roots, but, thats the way the music business works; exploitation = revenue.
ryfitaDF
^the guy knows his shit.
Paradox of Life
QUOTE(Statistik @ Jul 4 2006, 10:45 PM) *
Well the truth is .. that you are ugly .. lmfao .. yes ugly .. remember that picture you posted? Almost made me pass out .. kid needs to get buffer, needs to know how to dress, needs to know how to prevent himself from getting exposed on the Internet, and needs to know some shit about hip hop .. you don't belong in this thread .. if you gon spam, do it somewhere else .. I know more facts about hip hop than you, so don't trip .. You DO NOT LOOK LIKE NICK CANNON .. YOU JUST LOOK more like A 'Spoiled/Abused Nick Cannon' face .. I mean sorry but you do make nick cannon look bad .. hahahahaha


Hmmm.. Jason. I really don't want to see you back in the debate forum. This is the reason why Nate brought up the topic of making it exclusive. Consider yourself warned.

And I agree with Brandon... basically .. it's stereotypes that makes rap and hip-hop such a controversial style of music. So .. if you don't generalize and pick artists that you think are good or dont' listen to it at all, we will all be okay. thumbsup.gif
seremela_culnamo
i don't like rap and i wouldn't recommend kids to listen to it

but i don't see what's wrong with rap. it's just another way of expressing emotions with music. though it's more violent, sexual or just plain swearing, what can we do? some consider it as music; some don't consider it as music.

hope you get what i mean.
NinjaxMageLayouts
QUOTE(magicfann @ Jul 5 2006, 1:27 AM) *
there is nothing wrong with rap, there are those who like it, those who don't care, and homos
//EDIT

ok..so i decided to take the time to read everything from like page 3 (the last time i posted here..) till now..and..
then why the hell are you arguing this entire time, if you think it's personal preference then f**k off cuz you won't be able to win this debate (if it is still one)
uhm...as MUCH talent? where the f**k did you get that? you try rapping then...uhm ok GG
uh ok even though i got into an argument with ricexboy over american football im on his side cuz you sound like a friggin dumbass..

the majority of rap degrades women? ok..don't listen to it we don't give a shit.
banned from cB? i don't mind
you dont' have PROOF? WOW THEN DON'T f**king TALK you're a friggin moron

uh duhhrrrr
/google rap

uhm good game?

YOU ARE B U T T H U R T
C R Y M O R E
LOLLOLLOLOL

ok here i'll provide you with an analogy ok?

a guy logs in IRC on some random clan channel...he's looking for say...a CAL-M/CAL-P team for season 18 (cal-m and cal-p are high-skilled leagues and generally difficult to get into)
the recruiter asks for experience and the guy says he's played CAL-P in season 17 on so-and-so team and has also played in various tournaments

well ok, thats nice...
and then the recruiter asks for proof..
and the guy says, you can ask my buddies on said team, and they'll tell you i played with them
well that isnt good enough, cuz the recruiter wants proof that the person has done what he has said

which brings me back here, you're saying that you can't find any proof? well then get the f**k out we don't wanna find the goddamn proof for you thats undermining our points

ok so then i was like kekekekekek....



Hah,you say i sound like a dumbass?That post was a waste of time,and so am i for having to deal with your dumb ass.

"the majority of rap degrades women? ok..don't listen to it we don't give a shit.
banned from cB? i don't mind
you dont' have PROOF? WOW THEN DON'T f**king TALK you're a friggin moron"

I dont choose to listen to it,its garbage and its negative to society.Your the moron for even saying something like that.If you dont want to hear it,your going to hear it one place or another.Theres nothing that i can possibly do about having to hear that shitty stuff.And yes the majority of rap does degrade women.You cant f**king deny it if you actually hear it or listen to it.So stfu.

Ok lemme give you an example of why rap is bad and i dont care that you wont care so in that case,go crash and burn.

A young boy watches a music video lets say 50 cent just made it and it has him talking bout his usual shit of how he got shot and they act it out in the video and its not the only video about being shot or shooting someone else,its actually his 3rd time.So he see's those rap artist rapping about b-tches and hoes and all that "pimp"stuff.So the little boy recognizes that his father has a gun and now he has learned new words he shouldnt be saying and a new outlook on life and he decides to follow after the rap artist.

So he takes his father's gun and dresses all ghetto with those gang rags covering his face and he goes out and shoots someone.Then he notices a girl who is walking down the street,but he doesnt know it was his mother.So he goes up to her and says "b-tch bend down and gimme some head"So his mother is shocked.Why?Because she never saw her child talk like that and now the cops are after him.

See,it may have been his choice to follow after 50 cent and other rap artist and what they rap about e.t.c. but he follows it from the actions done by those rap artist.Which is clearly why rap is wrong.It degrades women,it makes people different and turns them into an dumb ass like you.And other things.So an the rap artist actions had a reaction which was a result as in a choice but also finding it right to follow after the rap artist.But i dont expect an idiot like you to get the point i just made.

There was an article about an interview with a principal of a local bronx school and 2 rap artist.And what did the rap artist say "it was their choice to do talk,act,and behave the way they do"Well thats also because they think its right because they see the rap artist doing it in videos and for the talking/behaving part from the lyrics.So action = reaction.The rap artist made and rapped about what they did and the reaction is similar to exactly what happens in the example i provided.
Reliantjoel
I like rap/rock artists like P.O.D. and Linkin Park.

Don't get me wrong rap by itself is good, but I do think MCs are more talented when they rap over rock music
fameONE
QUOTE(NinjaxMageLayouts @ Jul 14 2006, 1:20 AM) *
Hah,you say i sound like a dumbass?That post was a waste of time,and so am i for having to deal with your dumb ass.

"the majority of rap degrades women? ok..don't listen to it we don't give a shit.
banned from cB? i don't mind
you dont' have PROOF? WOW THEN DON'T f**king TALK you're a friggin moron"

I dont choose to listen to it,its garbage and its negative to society.Your the moron for even saying something like that.If you dont want to hear it,your going to hear it one place or another.Theres nothing that i can possibly do about having to hear that shitty stuff.And yes the majority of rap does degrade women.You cant f**king deny it if you actually hear it or listen to it.So stfu.

Ok lemme give you an example of why rap is bad and i dont care that you wont care so in that case,go crash and burn.

A young boy watches a music video lets say 50 cent just made it and it has him talking bout his usual shit of how he got shot and they act it out in the video and its not the only video about being shot or shooting someone else,its actually his 3rd time.So he see's those rap artist rapping about b-tches and hoes and all that "pimp"stuff.So the little boy recognizes that his father has a gun and now he has learned new words he shouldnt be saying and a new outlook on life and he decides to follow after the rap artist.

So he takes his father's gun and dresses all ghetto with those gang rags covering his face and he goes out and shoots someone.Then he notices a girl who is walking down the street,but he doesnt know it was his mother.So he goes up to her and says "b-tch bend down and gimme some head"So his mother is shocked.Why?Because she never saw her child talk like that and now the cops are after him.

See,it may have been his choice to follow after 50 cent and other rap artist and what they rap about e.t.c. but he follows it from the actions done by those rap artist.Which is clearly why rap is wrong.It degrades women,it makes people different and turns them into an dumb ass like you.And other things.So an the rap artist actions had a reaction which was a result as in a choice but also finding it right to follow after the rap artist.But i dont expect an idiot like you to get the point i just made.

There was an article about an interview with a principal of a local bronx school and 2 rap artist.And what did the rap artist say "it was their choice to do talk,act,and behave the way they do"Well thats also because they think its right because they see the rap artist doing it in videos and for the talking/behaving part from the lyrics.So action = reaction.The rap artist made and rapped about what they did and the reaction is similar to exactly what happens in the example i provided.


You don't know enough about hiphop (based on your responses) to generalize the entire genre as garbage. Ok, so you're opinionated about your discontent for hiphop, but you haven't backed it up with anything. The artists that glorify superficiality, illegal activity and degrade women don't represent the entire genre. Come correct next time. KTHXBYE!
Programmer
Most people on here hear one curse word on a rap song an automatically think it's trash. Instead of listening to the whole song and the lyrics. As well as sterotype that rap influences violence. The person who commits such crimes is held responsible for the actions he/she does. Their escape is to say they saw some rapper do it on tv. And when caught people always try to bring others down with them. Every person has common sense. It's up to them is they choose to listen to it. When not followed it's known as stupiedity stubborn.gif

On anther note:
I will agree that some rap does degrade women mellow.gif
Mr. Me Too
QUOTE(Reliantjoel @ Jul 16 2006, 7:36 PM) *
I like rap/rock artists like P.O.D. and Linkin Park.

Don't get me wrong rap by itself is good, but I do think MCs are more talented when they rap over rock music

I respect your opinion, and I for one think that Mike Shinoda has skill but honestly you mean to tell me that since Mike raps over a rock beat he can spit with the lyrical capability of a Busta Rhymes, Eminem, Common, or Lupe Fiasco?
sadolakced acid
linkin park sucked once they got with jay z.

that was wiggity whack.
rAwritsgWeg
Truly, Nothing is wrong with rap. Its just that most of the mainstream rap really takes now skill to make. Many rappers(mainstream) say things about themselves that arent true. Fakes, basically. In conclusion, underground rap is the shizz. Mainstream has a bit of catching up to do....
benedictkenny
QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Jul 10 2006, 12:14 AM) *
I wish I was around for the beginning of this debate, considering I am the intelligent advocator of hiphop when it comes to musically biased (and ignorant) forums such as Createblog. Nonetheless, I feel as though HipHop music, as a genre, is targeted, and exploited, and seems to be used as a tool to stagnate the acceptance of African American culture. Its ridiculous that the Ying Yang Twinz get more radio airplay than The Roots, but, thats the way the music business works; exploitation = revenue.


Well, you have to remember, even more, that the best of MC's are never heard by most people, nor played outside of California/New York Radio, in this country.
I'm talking about the 427's, Immortal Techniques, etc. (Who speak on everything from politics to existentialist themes) There's of course the roots of hip-hop (it's not rap, despite what your TV tells you, and you blindly agree with, ignorantly), artists like KRS-One, Slick Rick, Public Enemy, etc., who had something valuable to say, but alas, like the psuedo punk-rcok, hip-hop has become something used to push products for capitalism, in a political climate where the politicians in charge of much of this pretend to hate in, order to make it seem "bad" ($$$).
Kinda lame how so many people talk about how Hip-Hop is so negative, or pointless, when much of ACTUAL hip-hop is WAY more on the reality tip than the guitar driven emotional garbage that's "in style."

Hip-Hop isn't dead, and still concerns the evolution of the 5 elements (although said evolution has stagnated for many years, it seems to be evolving on a few of the fronts in the past few years).

If you want hip-hop, go to the underground. If you haven't gone there, don't talk about Hip-Hop. You know nothing about it. I notice most of you in this thread speak in a very immature high-school holier than thou manner on this, and should stop it.

If you remember nothing else, remember that what you see now is "rap." This isn't the same as "hip-hop," and therefore, isn't the real. It isn't directly descended or created by the pioneers, and hardly has anything to do with them, control-wise, or anything else.
It's a lot like the modern punk movement, if you can understand where I'm coming from.
A terrible cheap version of what it originally was, and what it was meant to be, thanks to record companies, capitalism, and dumb teens with too much cash.

And of course, "mainstream rap" has been a plague on black society for the past...I'd say 18 years, but I'll get into that on another post entitled "why N.W.A. blew it for
African-American people everywhere".
rAwritsgWeg
Xagrand, you are basically saying what im thinking.
Its just that most people are too obssesed with what other people like
that may not apply to everyone but i know it applies to a good portion of them
no-name
I seen nothing wrong with it. I don't get why something like this is in the debate. This should be in entertainment.
baby_in_blue
^ i guess people argue about it.

whateves.
ChaosPunx
Nothing is wrong with rap! I listen to some rap and i like it personally people are trying to hard to hate something when they should enjoy it as a form of music.Instead of not liking it.
Statistik
QUOTE(NinjaxMageLayouts @ Jul 14 2006, 2:20 AM) *
Hah,you say i sound like a dumbass?That post was a waste of time,and so am i for having to deal with your dumb ass.

"the majority of rap degrades women? ok..don't listen to it we don't give a shit.
banned from cB? i don't mind
you dont' have PROOF? WOW THEN DON'T f**king TALK you're a friggin moron"

I dont choose to listen to it,its garbage and its negative to society.Your the moron for even saying something like that.If you dont want to hear it,your going to hear it one place or another.Theres nothing that i can possibly do about having to hear that shitty stuff.And yes the majority of rap does degrade women.You cant f**king deny it if you actually hear it or listen to it.So stfu.

Ok lemme give you an example of why rap is bad and i dont care that you wont care so in that case,go crash and burn.

A young boy watches a music video lets say 50 cent just made it and it has him talking bout his usual shit of how he got shot and they act it out in the video and its not the only video about being shot or shooting someone else,its actually his 3rd time.So he see's those rap artist rapping about b-tches and hoes and all that "pimp"stuff.So the little boy recognizes that his father has a gun and now he has learned new words he shouldnt be saying and a new outlook on life and he decides to follow after the rap artist.

So he takes his father's gun and dresses all ghetto with those gang rags covering his face and he goes out and shoots someone.Then he notices a girl who is walking down the street,but he doesnt know it was his mother.So he goes up to her and says "b-tch bend down and gimme some head"So his mother is shocked.Why?Because she never saw her child talk like that and now the cops are after him.

See,it may have been his choice to follow after 50 cent and other rap artist and what they rap about e.t.c. but he follows it from the actions done by those rap artist.Which is clearly why rap is wrong.It degrades women,it makes people different and turns them into an dumb ass like you.And other things.So an the rap artist actions had a reaction which was a result as in a choice but also finding it right to follow after the rap artist.But i dont expect an idiot like you to get the point i just made.

There was an article about an interview with a principal of a local bronx school and 2 rap artist.And what did the rap artist say "it was their choice to do talk,act,and behave the way they do"Well thats also because they think its right because they see the rap artist doing it in videos and for the talking/behaving part from the lyrics.So action = reaction.The rap artist made and rapped about what they did and the reaction is similar to exactly what happens in the example i provided.


You have no idea on what you're talking about. GO f**king KILL YOURSELF
no-name
^that was not nessecary.

I really think this should be closed. It is turning into a bashing thread instead of a debate plus this is not really debateable
baby_in_blue
^word.
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