There should be an IQ test.
If you fail, you're banned from the Debate forum for a year or a couple months. Because if you fail, it shows how you have a lack of intelligence, and how you would post a completly idiotic statemen, a dumb arguement, or your stupid statement would only hinder the debate, has nothing to do with the debate itself, or would just show your stupidity.
Example, a debate about a certain genre of music.
This is the person who fails the test.
"I hate rap because it only talks about blah blah blah, (Insert stupid comment here.)" This is basically whats in that forum. Notice how the poster, completely ignores truth, and only focuses on the stereotypes that they believe is truth, in that retarted brain/ or brain look a like of theirs.
Then, after they take and fail the test, they can then take another one after the ban has been lifted, and see if their pass. Etc.
Full Version: Making the Debate Forum Exclusive
I do admit in posting my 2 cents rather than trying to formulate a rebuttle or constructive. A debate in standard format would be nice.
We should preset a debate like how clubs get members. Sign up and it would work like a batting list in baseball. #1 member of affirmative team goes, #1 member of negative team goes, #2 member of affirmative team goes, #2 member of negative team goes, etc. Any points made not in that order will be disregarded. Perhaps a punishment from the mods if possible. =P
We should preset a debate like how clubs get members. Sign up and it would work like a batting list in baseball. #1 member of affirmative team goes, #1 member of negative team goes, #2 member of affirmative team goes, #2 member of negative team goes, etc. Any points made not in that order will be disregarded. Perhaps a punishment from the mods if possible. =P
QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Jun 26 2006, 5:58 PM) 
There should be an IQ test.
If you fail, you're banned from the Debate forum for a year or a couple months. Because if you fail, it shows how you have a lack of intelligence, and how you would post a completly idiotic statemen, a dumb arguement, or your stupid statement would only hinder the debate, has nothing to do with the debate itself, or would just show your stupidity.
Example, a debate about a certain genre of music.
This is the person who fails the test.
"I hate rap because it only talks about blah blah blah, (Insert stupid comment here.)" This is basically whats in that forum. Notice how the poster, completely ignores truth, and only focuses on the stereotypes that they believe is truth, in that retarted brain/ or brain look a like of theirs.
Then, after they take and fail the test, they can then take another one after the ban has been lifted, and see if their pass. Etc.
If you fail, you're banned from the Debate forum for a year or a couple months. Because if you fail, it shows how you have a lack of intelligence, and how you would post a completly idiotic statemen, a dumb arguement, or your stupid statement would only hinder the debate, has nothing to do with the debate itself, or would just show your stupidity.
Example, a debate about a certain genre of music.
This is the person who fails the test.
"I hate rap because it only talks about blah blah blah, (Insert stupid comment here.)" This is basically whats in that forum. Notice how the poster, completely ignores truth, and only focuses on the stereotypes that they believe is truth, in that retarted brain/ or brain look a like of theirs.
Then, after they take and fail the test, they can then take another one after the ban has been lifted, and see if their pass. Etc.
I think you would have most definitly failed that IQ test.
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^ then perhaps an special set of rules which apply solely to the debate forum would be a good idea?
i generally oppose this plan, for reasons already expressed.
and alsom how on earth did i make marzipan's list of frequent posters in this forum? how odd.
i generally oppose this plan, for reasons already expressed.
and alsom how on earth did i make marzipan's list of frequent posters in this forum? how odd.
I like the idea of having a new set of rules that would make the debate thread a little more ligit. The only problem with the rules would be on how to enforce them. Having to monitor all of the posts would require a lot of effort on the part of the authorities. Also depending on how the mondorator looks at it, even if everyone agrees that the post was disobeying the rules, they may think it was okay. I don't think it would actually be possible to come up with a set of exacting rules; most of the rules for a debate forum would end up being too general and leave too many loop holes.
ligit? mondorator?
I don't think you should be going around telling other people that they would fail IQ tests.
It's kind of rude, and besides, I haven't seen an incredible amount of intelligence shown from yourself either.
I don't think you should be going around telling other people that they would fail IQ tests.
It's kind of rude, and besides, I haven't seen an incredible amount of intelligence shown from yourself either.
QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Jun 26 2006, 3:32 AM)
Yeah, and how did I not?
And, we already tried making a special set of rules for the forum, but it didn't work. People still come in all the time going, "Well, I'm not going to read all of this thread, I'll just post what I think", and get all huffypuffy when people tell them that the point has already been stated or refuted. Or, people still get in here and say, "But don't argue with me about it; it's just my opinion". Nate's just trying to think of things to eliminate these people who do not respect what the Debate forum is here for. It's not that hard for someone who is new to read a few of the most recent pages of a thread and get acquainted with what's being talked about now, rather than just the first post in a thread where there's 50 pages. I did it when I first came to Createblog, but, people are too lazy now, I guess...
But, you can't moderate that. I can't warn/suspend people for being too lazy, or not knowing something. That's not fair.
And, we already tried making a special set of rules for the forum, but it didn't work. People still come in all the time going, "Well, I'm not going to read all of this thread, I'll just post what I think", and get all huffypuffy when people tell them that the point has already been stated or refuted. Or, people still get in here and say, "But don't argue with me about it; it's just my opinion". Nate's just trying to think of things to eliminate these people who do not respect what the Debate forum is here for. It's not that hard for someone who is new to read a few of the most recent pages of a thread and get acquainted with what's being talked about now, rather than just the first post in a thread where there's 50 pages. I did it when I first came to Createblog, but, people are too lazy now, I guess...
But, you can't moderate that. I can't warn/suspend people for being too lazy, or not knowing something. That's not fair.
but i think that it is appropriate to this forum to take action against people who ar eblatant time wasters, i.e those who do NOT read the threads, and cause confusion/inconvenience.
and yea, how DID you no tmake that list. wanna trade places?
QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Jun 27 2006, 12:13 PM)
ligit? mondorator?
I don't think you should be going around telling other people that they would fail IQ tests. It's kind of rude, and besides, I haven't seen an incredible amount of intelligence shown from yourself either.
I don't think you should be going around telling other people that they would fail IQ tests.
It's kind of rude, and besides, I haven't seen an incredible amount of intelligence shown from yourself either.Ok fine I cant spell.
debate is about opinions, and an opinion is an opinion. if you dont like what someone is saying, ignore them. you dont have to go so far as to block them from the forum.
Once again, its not that we don't want to hear someone's opinion. We wanna hear your opinion but we also want you to tell us why you have the opinion that you have, what convinced you to have that opinion? Why is your opinion better then other's?
my opinion is better than yours, because i back mine up with facts. usually.
ok, whoa. no one's opinion is better than someone elses. everyone has a right to have their own opinion. and just because it's not backed up with facts doesn't mean it's not "better." yours might be better explained, though.
no.
mine is simply better, because a debate can actually happen, rather than pages of "well thatz jus what i think so lol you dun haft 2 b so mean".
mine is simply better, because a debate can actually happen, rather than pages of "well thatz jus what i think so lol you dun haft 2 b so mean".
yours is better explained. but an opinion is an opinion.
with facts or logic.
opinions backed up with facts or logic are worth more than plain opinions.
there's no getting around that.
because plain opinions just aren't debatable.
opinions backed up with facts or logic are worth more than plain opinions.
there's no getting around that.
because plain opinions just aren't debatable.
Actually after looking around I see a lot of "what do you think/believe". I mean if someone saw that they would immediately pose an opinion that may not be based on facts. If anything just ignore it.
Justin is right.
unless it is useful, something is worthless. true of opinions as well as everything else
unless it is useful, something is worthless. true of opinions as well as everything else
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my opinion is better than yours, because i back mine up with facts. usually.
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 29 2006, 12:04 AM)
with facts or logic.
opinions backed up with facts or logic are worth more than plain opinions.
there's no getting around that.
because plain opinions just aren't debatable.
opinions backed up with facts or logic are worth more than plain opinions.
there's no getting around that.
because plain opinions just aren't debatable.
You previously said that your opinions were better then mine. How is that? Mine are backed by logic and facts too. They also leave enough room for debate and others to agree or object.
You sound like such an arrogent idiot.
well, logically it's because your opinions aren't properly backed up most of the time.
saying "this is an idiotic opinion" and quoting someone else does not constitute a good post.
quite frankly, i don't know of a single post you've made that's been a good contribution to the debate. i probably haven't read all the posts in the debate forum, and i usually don't look to see who posted.
so if you would like to quote some of your posts to me, you know, the good ones, then that would be great. because see, that would be backing up your opinion with facts.
otherwise, the only posts i really see are these jewels:
saying "this is an idiotic opinion" and quoting someone else does not constitute a good post.
quite frankly, i don't know of a single post you've made that's been a good contribution to the debate. i probably haven't read all the posts in the debate forum, and i usually don't look to see who posted.
so if you would like to quote some of your posts to me, you know, the good ones, then that would be great. because see, that would be backing up your opinion with facts.
otherwise, the only posts i really see are these jewels:
QUOTE(Ajmalhuuss @ Jun 27 2006, 2:25 PM)
The truth is that most people do not understand abortion at all. This is why we get comments like these:
QUOTE(Ajmalhuuss @ Jun 27 2006, 2:28 PM)
Once again, its not that we don't want to hear someone's opinion. We wanna hear your opinion but we also want you to tell us why you have the opinion that you have, what convinced you to have that opinion? Why is your opinion better then other's?
The general idea seems to be that some Debate posters' ideas are better than those of others' because theirs are backed up by facts. I'm hesitant to subscribe to this view, mainly because very few people who post in Debate—even those who back their ideas up with "facts"—actually cite any of their sources. An opinion backed up with uncited facts is, in my mind, not significantly more valuable than one not backed up with any facts at all, yet most people in Debate simply do not cite their sources.
Another startling trend is what I would call the overuse of sources such as Wikipedia. Wikipedia is a great resource for general knowledge, but it is an encyclopedia, and encyclopedias should never be a focus of research—one has to look deeper than that. So merely backing up a statement by citing Wikipedia isn't a very solid basis, either.
Furthermore, there's the fact that many opinions which seem to be supported are merely paraphrashed—or even taken verbatim—from Wikipedia, almost always without a citation. There are many, many times in Debate when someone posts an opinion and I think, "Hey, this kid's pretty sharp. I should do more research on this," and then I go to Wikipedia to get a quick run-down of the topic, and find that the opinion came almost directly from a Wikipedia article. How does paraphrasing an encyclopedia really add anything to Debate?
Finally, I think the goal of the Debate Forum needs to be clarified. Many people seem look at it as "Debate" in terms of a high school forensics competition, in which debators get scored and one is declared a "winner". I think that's a stupid idea for this forum. First of all, the discussion of knowledge shouldn't be about one "winner"—indeed, everyon can "win". Secondly, there's no one to judge who wins and who loses here, so it's hardly a competition—although many frequent posters seem to be more concerned with "pwning" other posters, rather than actually learning.
No, I think Debate is more a place for academic discourse. People post an idea or opinion and throw it up for discussion and critique. Maybe they're trying to convince others of their opinion, but I think that everyone who comes here needs to be ready to listen to others, too—not something that happens very often, because many people in this forum seem to have the idea that they are "too smart" to listen to others.
I think making the Debate forum exclusive just emphasizes the idea that certain cBers are smarter than others, and don't have to listen to the less privileged ones, which couldn't be further from the truth. The Debate forum should be about learning from everyone and discussing with everyone, rather than dismissing or mocking the views of others who aren't as accustomed to the traditions of the Debate forum.
Besides, get a grip: A lot of people who come in here are 12, 13, 14 years old, and aren't use to discussing anything on an academic or intellectual level. They need to learn the "rules of the game", so to speak. By kicking people out, you could be missing out on a very intelligent debator.
Another startling trend is what I would call the overuse of sources such as Wikipedia. Wikipedia is a great resource for general knowledge, but it is an encyclopedia, and encyclopedias should never be a focus of research—one has to look deeper than that. So merely backing up a statement by citing Wikipedia isn't a very solid basis, either.
Furthermore, there's the fact that many opinions which seem to be supported are merely paraphrashed—or even taken verbatim—from Wikipedia, almost always without a citation. There are many, many times in Debate when someone posts an opinion and I think, "Hey, this kid's pretty sharp. I should do more research on this," and then I go to Wikipedia to get a quick run-down of the topic, and find that the opinion came almost directly from a Wikipedia article. How does paraphrasing an encyclopedia really add anything to Debate?
Finally, I think the goal of the Debate Forum needs to be clarified. Many people seem look at it as "Debate" in terms of a high school forensics competition, in which debators get scored and one is declared a "winner". I think that's a stupid idea for this forum. First of all, the discussion of knowledge shouldn't be about one "winner"—indeed, everyon can "win". Secondly, there's no one to judge who wins and who loses here, so it's hardly a competition—although many frequent posters seem to be more concerned with "pwning" other posters, rather than actually learning.
No, I think Debate is more a place for academic discourse. People post an idea or opinion and throw it up for discussion and critique. Maybe they're trying to convince others of their opinion, but I think that everyone who comes here needs to be ready to listen to others, too—not something that happens very often, because many people in this forum seem to have the idea that they are "too smart" to listen to others.
I think making the Debate forum exclusive just emphasizes the idea that certain cBers are smarter than others, and don't have to listen to the less privileged ones, which couldn't be further from the truth. The Debate forum should be about learning from everyone and discussing with everyone, rather than dismissing or mocking the views of others who aren't as accustomed to the traditions of the Debate forum.
Besides, get a grip: A lot of people who come in here are 12, 13, 14 years old, and aren't use to discussing anything on an academic or intellectual level. They need to learn the "rules of the game", so to speak. By kicking people out, you could be missing out on a very intelligent debator.
well, see, michael, your opinion is much better than someone who says simply "well i don't agree i think it's this way" because we can actually debate from your opinion.
people who just post opinions, you have to go and ask them why and hope they have some reasons, and such.
makes debate a bit harder.
and thus, those opinions are worth less than an opinion backed up by facts or logic.
i mean, come on. a post that just says "i think abortion is horrible and wrong don't get one!"
is worth a lot less than one that says
"i think abortion is horrible and wrong don't get one because ... (insert logical explanation here, not just 'jesus says so' or something. )"
people who just post opinions, you have to go and ask them why and hope they have some reasons, and such.
makes debate a bit harder.
and thus, those opinions are worth less than an opinion backed up by facts or logic.
i mean, come on. a post that just says "i think abortion is horrible and wrong don't get one!"
is worth a lot less than one that says
"i think abortion is horrible and wrong don't get one because ... (insert logical explanation here, not just 'jesus says so' or something. )"
I think we can compromise here.
How about we make debate closed, but the only requirement is that you have read and understand the rules? Close debate to only certain groups, but allow people to join the group when they pm a mod that they have read the rules? This way, everyone who feels that they need to post will be forced to read the rules before they can post in debate, but it still lets everyone in who wants to participate.
How about we make debate closed, but the only requirement is that you have read and understand the rules? Close debate to only certain groups, but allow people to join the group when they pm a mod that they have read the rules? This way, everyone who feels that they need to post will be forced to read the rules before they can post in debate, but it still lets everyone in who wants to participate.
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 2 2006, 10:20 AM)
I think we can compromise here.
How about we make debate closed, but the only requirement is that you have read and understand the rules? Close debate to only certain groups, but allow people to join the group when they pm a mod that they have read the rules? This way, everyone who feels that they need to post will be forced to read the rules before they can post in debate, but it still lets everyone in who wants to participate.
How about we make debate closed, but the only requirement is that you have read and understand the rules? Close debate to only certain groups, but allow people to join the group when they pm a mod that they have read the rules? This way, everyone who feels that they need to post will be forced to read the rules before they can post in debate, but it still lets everyone in who wants to participate.
That sounds like a great idea, and actually, kind of close to what I would have wanted anyways.
the question is, how would we moderate those who just PM'ed mods without really reading the rules and are just being idiots? do we disable their posting in the debate forum? delete their posts?
we need a proper way to moderate the forum under those guidelines.
we need a proper way to moderate the forum under those guidelines.
QUOTE(rawtheekuh. @ Jul 3 2006, 5:51 PM)
the question is, how would we moderate those who just PM'ed mods without really reading the rules and are just being idiots? do we disable their posting in the debate forum? delete their posts?
we need a proper way to moderate the forum under those guidelines.
we need a proper way to moderate the forum under those guidelines.
How will they know who to pm without having read the rules? I suppose if they start spamming or some other kind of abuse, they can be removed from the usergroup.
I'm really in favor of keeping the status quo though. But if it's as much as a problem as some of you guys say it is, we should have some kind of backup plan.
i like your plan, kryo. i sincerely think it should be implemented, but everyone starts out as a potential applicant instead of having the 'debate elite' (if you will) get automatic preference. =/
QUOTE(rawtheekuh. @ Jul 3 2006, 5:51 PM)
the question is, how would we moderate those who just PM'ed mods without really reading the rules and are just being idiots? do we disable their posting in the debate forum? delete their posts?
we need a proper way to moderate the forum under those guidelines.
we need a proper way to moderate the forum under those guidelines.
My Idea, THE IQ TEST!!
but now i cant make useless comments :(
Well, we could just have one mod who has unwritten "charge" of the Debate forum; not necessarily a purely "Debate Mod", but, just someone who looks after the Debate forum and has the responsibilities of making sure that things are going according to the rules set. Also, people could not get all fussy for rules being a little different here, saying it is "unfair" or whatnot.
QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Jul 4 2006, 1:48 AM)
My Idea, THE IQ TEST!!
well, i hate to be a spoilsport, but in recent years, iq tests have been shown to not be an accurate measure of intelligence. this isn't just about someone's intelligence, it's about their ability to debate properly. someone could have an iq of 93 and be an extremely skilled debator.
but i digress. let's not turn this into a debate about iq tests.
IQ is pretty worthless.
QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Jul 4 2006, 3:55 AM)
Well, we could just have one mod who has unwritten "charge" of the Debate forum; not necessarily a purely "Debate Mod", but, just someone who looks after the Debate forum and has the responsibilities of making sure that things are going according to the rules set. Also, people could not get all fussy for rules being a little different here, saying it is "unfair" or whatnot.
?...
And then, as offenses build up, people could be removed from posting there...
Oh, I'm all for being exclusive.
Just do what Abercrombie & Fitch does. Discriminate by jacking up the prices!
$5.95 / month for all the debate action you can handle.
$5.95 / month for all the debate action you can handle.
^ That action would limit the socioeconomic diversity of this forum and thus reduce the diversity of perspectives that are presented. =(
^ Mindy!
<3s lots.
<3s lots.
Ahem. Ahem.
Human nature wouldn't let it work. I've not read through all the responses, but I assume people brought up behavior and intellect.
QUOTE(Steven @ Sep 25 2007, 04:42 PM)
Human nature wouldn't let it work. I've not read through all the responses, but I assume people brought up behavior and intellect.
I don't get it.
I thought these were all the reasons to make this forum exclusive: Human nature.
How are you going to dictate who can and can't come in? And how would one earn their way in?
QUOTE(Steven @ Sep 25 2007, 05:44 PM)
How are you going to dictate who can and can't come in? And how would one earn their way in?
Personal discretion.
Essentially, someone just needs to demonstrate a desire to actually debate.
If someone were to take the time to apply and actually make an attempt to get posting privileges here, I'm sure that alone is enough. I can't imagine many applicants, if any, being turned down. Essentially, you would have to make an intentional ass of yourself to be denied. But, the beauty is this: once posting is made a privilege here, that privilege can be taken away. If someone decides to abuse these forums, we could handle it in a far more efficient manner.
Know what else takes posting privileges away? Mod preview. IMO, if someone's that out of hand, they'll eventually get it, anyways.
QUOTE(Steven @ Sep 25 2007, 07:41 PM)
Know what else takes posting privileges away? Mod preview. IMO, if someone's that out of hand, they'll eventually get it, anyways.
It's not about being "that out of hand," it's about being productive and respectful to the ethic of debate. It's about a reevaluation of what these debate forums should be. If quality isn't a concern, then I don't think this point should be worth consideration, but... I would like to believe some of us still value quality debate.
Gay jokes are boring, eh?
Look at this forum demographic. What do you expect?
QUOTE(Steven @ Sep 25 2007, 09:53 PM)
Look at this forum demographic. What do you expect?
A man can dream (sometimes without even getting shot).
Mod preview always seemed terribly useless.
I fully agree with Nate (Nate, right?) that the people who put the effort into bothering to apply should be given the privileges, as they will more than likely be the ones who wouldn't simply drop in to go 'omg gayz r grosssssss!!!!11!' However, I also propose that one of the qualifications be a basic grasp on the English language, because I for one refuse to take someone's opinion seriously when they can neither form structurally sound sentences nor spell everyday words correctly (for god's sake, just download firefox if you're that bad at spelling; yay spell check!).
Edit: oh god, just noticed that I had several typos. Am not a hypocrite, I swear it was just 1:30am and I've barely slept in a week!
I fully agree with Nate (Nate, right?) that the people who put the effort into bothering to apply should be given the privileges, as they will more than likely be the ones who wouldn't simply drop in to go 'omg gayz r grosssssss!!!!11!' However, I also propose that one of the qualifications be a basic grasp on the English language, because I for one refuse to take someone's opinion seriously when they can neither form structurally sound sentences nor spell everyday words correctly (for god's sake, just download firefox if you're that bad at spelling; yay spell check!).
Edit: oh god, just noticed that I had several typos. Am not a hypocrite, I swear it was just 1:30am and I've barely slept in a week!
^Haha I hear you there. I always find it hard to take someone seriously when they cant differentiate when to use their, there, they're, here, hear, your, you're, and other words like those. Also when they type like "those apples is tasty" or use "a" instead of "an" when it comes before something that starts with a vowel. I used to pick on certain people, but I stopped ha ha.
I'm trying this thing where I don't act like a complete bitch to everyone, because I'm in college now and it tends not to be the best way to make friends (though actually, it seems to be working pretty well for my roommate). I've had to get myself out of the habit of correcting people's every error, and it's definitely harder than it should be. But oh god, being back here...certain people still haven't improved, and it's killing me.
QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Sep 26 2007, 08:28 AM)
I'm trying this thing where I don't act like a complete bitch to everyone, because I'm in college now and it tends not to be the best way to make friends (though actually, it seems to be working pretty well for my roommate). I've had to get myself out of the habit of correcting people's every error, and it's definitely harder than it should be. But oh god, being back here...certain people still haven't improved, and it's killing me.
Nobody is perfect. This is obvious, but it's something many people forget (even myself). Humble yourself. Although your not a complete failure in the area of grammar and spelling, you may be a doof when it comes down to other areas in your life. Personally, I think you don't seem like the type of person who can joke around. I think you need to loosen up. You take things way, way, way to seriously.
Also, you can still correct grammar mistakes and the like if you do it with a helpful attitude and not a critical one. When I see you correct mistakes on the forum, I get the impression you're only doing it because you're bothered by their "stupidity". If you do this in real life then you're probably pretty annoying, and I could understand why you would want to stop. No-one likes to feel stupid.
For example, Jeremy (Abominable C-Pillar) helps me out with grammar and spelling all the time. He doesn't critique my grammar and spelling it in a condescending tone. He does it in a way that says he's there to help. In the same way, I help him out with computer issues and anything similar (my area of strength). It's mutual respect.
Truth is, to many things that bother you, and like I said, "You need to loosen up." You're wasting your time being bothered by all these petty things that don't effect your real life in any way, shape, or form. All that time your wasting could be used to enjoy life rather than be bothered by it.
I may bust your chops a lot on this stupid website, but it's mostly because you jump on and bust mine by calling me ignorant. Now, don't get me wrong. I could care less as to whether you think I'm ignorant or not. You're some girl that I will probably never meet in real life, you live 1000 miles away, and you get annoyed at the smallest things. You are an easy target. I reply to your posts because I enjoy pissing people off and you are particularly easy to piss off.
Think of yourself as a form of entertainment. I enjoy the fact that you are on this site because you give me what I crave. On the other hand, as much as I enjoy the high feeling I get when I see one of your more passionate posts, I also realize you're a person. I want you to enjoy life just as much as I am.
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Also, in response to the topic at hand. Most people in this world are complete idiots. To make this forum exclusive would be a disaster. Yes, there are people that obviously participate and debate well, but everyone likes to be heard no matter how stupid or ignorant they are. I think it would be morally wrong to ban someone from the Debate forum because they weren't "intelligent" enough. You can't measure intelligence, and therefore the "intelligence" of an individual would be in the hands of a person. While it is obvious that some people are more "stupid" or less "intelligent" than others, everyone is opinionated, biased, manipulated, and different (including myself) there would be no way for someone to fairly judge the intelligence of someone else. Although it would be nice in a "perfect" world, I don't think this idea is possible.
No, you just fail to realize that 90% of the time I am joking. You just aren't the type of person who gets my irony.
I appreciate that you see me that way, because I really do mke yourself seem like an utter fool. Wonderful comment about how I need to humble myself, by the way. I mean really, you aren't that funny. Not at all. I'm not saying this because I'm offended or any shit like that that you want to make of this, but because if you have to present yourself as a dumbass to make a fool out of other people and enjoy yourself, than you're not much better off than the person you seem to think I am, are you?
I appreciate that you see me that way, because I really do mke yourself seem like an utter fool. Wonderful comment about how I need to humble myself, by the way. I mean really, you aren't that funny. Not at all. I'm not saying this because I'm offended or any shit like that that you want to make of this, but because if you have to present yourself as a dumbass to make a fool out of other people and enjoy yourself, than you're not much better off than the person you seem to think I am, are you?
Ignorance is bliss
QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Sep 26 2007, 11:19 AM)
No, you just fail to realize that 90% of the time I am joking. You just aren't the type of person who gets my irony.
I appreciate that you see me that way, because I really do mke yourself seem like an utter fool. Wonderful comment about how I need to humble myself, by the way. I mean really, you aren't that funny. Not at all. I'm not saying this because I'm offended or any shit like that that you want to make of this, but because if you have to present yourself as a dumbass to make a fool out of other people and enjoy yourself, than you're not much better off than the person you seem to think I am, are you?
I appreciate that you see me that way, because I really do mke yourself seem like an utter fool. Wonderful comment about how I need to humble myself, by the way. I mean really, you aren't that funny. Not at all. I'm not saying this because I'm offended or any shit like that that you want to make of this, but because if you have to present yourself as a dumbass to make a fool out of other people and enjoy yourself, than you're not much better off than the person you seem to think I am, are you?
Never said that I was. I didn't say that you specifically need to humble yourself. I said:
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This is obvious, but it's something many people forget (even myself). Humble yourself.
I was referring to all people who correct others for petty mistakes, and I even included myself. If you're enjoying the site then "rock on".
*sigh*
One thing that does frustrate me:
When you try to help someone and they try to make you look like an ass for it.
QUOTE(Steven @ Sep 26 2007, 11:24 AM)
Ignorance is bliss
I guess so...
*reaches out and touches CowerPointyObjects with his index finger*
Ouch!! I burned my finger!!
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