mipadi
Jun 14 2006, 08:02 AM
QUOTE
Labs Compete to Make New Nuclear BombThe Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in the San Francisco Bay area and the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico are competing to design the nation's first new nuclear bomb in two decades.
Scientists at both facilities are working around the clock on plans that will be presented to the Nuclear Weapons Council, a federal panel that oversees the nation's nuclear weapons. The council will choose a winner later this year.
"I have had people working nights and weekends," said Joseph Martz, the head of the Los Alamos design team. "I have to tell them to go home. I can't keep them out of the office."
Congress approved the new bomb, known as the reliable replacement warhead, with bipartisan support in 2005 as part of a defense spending bill. The weapon would, by law, have the same explosive power as existing warheads.
Proponents of the project say the U.S. would lose its so-called "strategic deterrent" unless it replaces its aging arsenal of about 6,000 bombs, which will become potentially unreliable within 15 years. A new, more reliable weapon, they say, would help the nation reduce its stockpile.
Critics say the project could trigger a new arms race with Russia and China, and undercut arguments that countries such as Iran and North Korea must stop their nuclear programs.
The United States and Russia signed a treaty in 2002 calling for the countries to each cut nuclear inventories to between 1,700 and 2,200 warheads by 2012.
Source Should the US invest in new nuclear weapons, or could this possible trigger a new arms war with Russia and/or China?
kryogenix
Jun 14 2006, 08:35 AM
I think that if are to produce new nuclear weapons, we should reduce the amount of strategic nuclear weapons and focus more on tactical nuclear weapons.
Uronacid
Jun 14 2006, 01:04 PM
I think we should try and keep other countries from having neuclear weapons, and build them ourselves

It's a doggy dog world out there, and if we need to defend ourselves, then we should
mipadi
Jun 14 2006, 01:15 PM
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jun 14 2006, 2:04 PM)

I think we should try and keep other countries from having neuclear weapons, and build them ourselves

It's a doggy dog world out there, and if we need to defend ourselves, then we should

How can we argue that it's okay for us to not only have nukes, but make nukes, yet it's not okay for, say, Iran or North Korea to do the same?
Uronacid
Jun 14 2006, 01:29 PM
because, we have to be #1... ever heard of the saying "what mother doesn't know won't hurt her."... what they don't know won't hurt them....
its not a moral issue
mipadi
Jun 14 2006, 01:38 PM
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jun 14 2006, 2:29 PM)

because, we have to be #1... ever heard of the saying "what mother doesn't know won't hurt her."... what they don't know won't hurt them....

That argument is going to hold almost no weight in the international community, and it's hardly going to prevent other nations from building nuclear weapons in response.
demolished
Jun 14 2006, 04:51 PM
i believe U.S should have their own private set of wepean of mass destruction. not every countries like each other. eventually, it could lead to war. they would possibly use nuke too which is originately from U.S.
powerful knowledge should not be sold to the world. it's pathetic that bill clinton sold the recipe of nuke to other country for $. it's going to reduce the chance of U.S winning, somehow.
radhikaeatsraman
Jun 14 2006, 06:06 PM
NO.
Why invest money in weapons we're never going to use when we can use that money for the education system or health care...something that will directly benefit the people?
How on earth are more weapons going to help us? If other countries want to build weapons, let them. Let's just do what we can to improve our country and not be the international police.
Ington
Jun 14 2006, 06:32 PM
How can we improve our country if we get blown away? Your idea is simply horrid, it will only leave the US defenseless. There is no such thing as being the bigger person and walking away from these matters. If we let other countries build weapons and we don't, don't you think our enemies would take advantage of that?
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jun 14 2006, 2:29 PM)

because, we have to be #1... ever heard of the saying "what mother doesn't know won't hurt her."... what they don't know won't hurt them....
its not a moral issue
But there's a chance (a very high one) of them finding out, anyway.
We should do what we need to ensure the future of the US, but not more than that. If we don't fund nuclear weapon research and build nuclear weapons, we are easy targets. If we create too many, the world will fear us, and there is an incredible risk of attack.
Basically, we're screwed both ways, unless we're perfectly balanced.
kryogenix
Jun 14 2006, 09:25 PM
QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Jun 14 2006, 7:06 PM)

NO.
Why invest money in weapons we're never going to use when we can use that money for the education system or health care...something that will directly benefit the people?
How on earth are more weapons going to help us? If other countries want to build weapons, let them. Let's just do what we can to improve our country and not be the international police.
That's the thing. People say we're never going to use them. However, if we did not have nuclear technology but the Soviet Union had it, do you think they would have hesitated to nuke us? Having a strategic nuclear weapons arsenal is useful in deterring other countries with strategic nuclear capabilities.
Just like guns. It's better to have them and not need them, rather than to need them and not have them.
Look up guns vs. butter. It's the first thing you learn when you take economics. A country will have to decide whether to put their money into guns (defence) or butter (improvements). A country that spends too much on butter will be wiped out when a rogue nation attacks, but a country that spends too much on guns will be left behind and get worn out.
As I said, we should have just enough strategic arms in order to act as a deterrent. However, I think if we need tactical nukes, we should go ahead and build them.
And yeah, I'm against nuclear proliferation too. So I don't think we should just "let" other countries have them either. A nuclear armed East Asia is a scary thought.
mipadi
Jun 15 2006, 07:30 AM
At what point, though, do we say we have enough weapons? We have thousands of warheads. As of the mid-1990s, we had over 8000 nuclear warheads. The number may have come down a bit, but not that much.
Do we really need thousands and thousands of warheads to be a deterrent?
Furthermore, how do we tell Iran and North Korea they can't have nukes, when we have the biggest stockpile of any country in the world?
magicfann
Jun 15 2006, 12:40 PM
doesnt matter if u nuke china, we have so many ppl we'll just bum rush u and friggin own the U.S. real hard
mipadi
Jun 15 2006, 12:41 PM
QUOTE(magicfann @ Jun 15 2006, 1:40 PM)

doesnt matter if u nuke china, we have so many ppl we'll just bum rush u and friggin own the U.S. real hard
Except that China has a very limited amphibious landing capability.
kryogenix
Jun 15 2006, 02:50 PM
QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 15 2006, 8:30 AM)

At what point, though, do we say we have enough weapons? We have thousands of warheads. As of the mid-1990s, we had over 8000 nuclear warheads. The number may have come down a bit, but not that much.
Do we really need thousands and thousands of warheads to be a deterrent?
Furthermore, how do we tell Iran and North Korea they can't have nukes, when we have the biggest stockpile of any country in the world?
As I said, I think strategic nuclear weapons are becoming obsolete and should only be used as a deterrent. If one hundred warheads will do the same damage as ten thousand, it would make more sense to have less, if only atleast to limit upkeep costs.
They can't have them because getting them would make them a bigger threat to us. The fact of the matter is, if anyone went to strategic nuclear war with us, they would lose. Even the Soviet Union at its height could have been destroyed. The big fear is having millions of civilians wiped out. If tactical nukes were used in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be taboo today.
QUOTE(magicfann @ Jun 15 2006, 1:40 PM)

doesnt matter if u nuke china, we have so many ppl we'll just bum rush u and friggin own the U.S. real hard
The US Navy is the best Navy in the world, China would be destroyed en route.
mipadi
Jun 15 2006, 04:33 PM
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 15 2006, 3:50 PM)

They can't have them because getting them would make them a bigger threat to us.
That's the argument from the US side, but like I said before, that doesn't hold much sway in the world community. Clearly it's a bit one-sided to unilaterally say that one nation can have them, but others can't.
radhikaeatsraman
Jun 16 2006, 01:59 PM
QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 15 2006, 7:30 AM)

At what point, though, do we say we have enough weapons? We have thousands of warheads. As of the mid-1990s, we had over 8000 nuclear warheads. The number may have come down a bit, but not that much.
Do we really need thousands and thousands of warheads to be a deterrent?
Furthermore, how do we tell Iran and North Korea they can't have nukes, when we have the biggest stockpile of any country in the world?
Agreed. If we already have thousands of nukes, why on earth should we make more? If Iran and North Korea want to make weapons of their own, we should just let them be. If they try to attack us, we have enough weapons to defend ourselves with.
Quite frankly, I think nuclear weapons are unnecessary. We really should partially disarm.
But that's not going to happen any time soon. :)
marzipan
Jun 18 2006, 10:03 PM
QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Jun 16 2006, 1:59 PM)

Agreed. If we already have thousands of nukes, why on earth should we make more? If Iran and North Korea want to make weapons of their own, we should just let them be. If they try to attack us, we have enough weapons to defend ourselves with.
Quite frankly, I think nuclear weapons are unnecessary. We really should partially disarm.
But that's not going to happen any time soon. :)
i agree. the money could be put to better use, instead of making nukes.
sakaitone
Jun 18 2006, 10:55 PM
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jun 14 2006, 2:29 PM)

because, we have to be #1... ever heard of the saying "what mother doesn't know won't hurt her."... what they don't know won't hurt them....
its not a moral issue
I think it's a moral issue, I agree with mipadi, why should it be okay for the U.S to have nukes?
Those weapons kill numerous people and plus the U.S. is spending more money on war when national debt is skyrocketing,this stupid war, a war triggered by the want of finding, "Weapons of mass destruction" when the U.S. is making those weapons.
If we make things as powerful as the atomic bomb we would wreck havoc upon the world. The Iran war is considered the 4th world war (Cold war being 3rd).
The bombing of the Japanese was horrible and even years after many people suffered because of the radiation (no clue how to spell that) that caused cancer.
We should focus on more important things like I dunno, Global Warming that could end the life on earth because of the hole in the ozone layer.
There are many things to consider because thinking about building some nukes to kill people, killing people is wrong, war is wrong, no matter which side anyone one is on lives are being destroyed because of war.
The U.S. shouldn't need to be number one, not if it means killing people. 'Course all of you are intitled to your opinions!
kryogenix
Jun 19 2006, 07:59 AM
QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Jun 16 2006, 2:59 PM)

Agreed. If we already have thousands of nukes, why on earth should we make more? If Iran and North Korea want to make weapons of their own, we should just let them be. If they try to attack us, we have enough weapons to defend ourselves with.
So you're willing to let possibly millions die, just because we have enough to defend ourselves with?
QUOTE
That's the argument from the US side, but like I said before, that doesn't hold much sway in the world community. Clearly it's a bit one-sided to unilaterally say that one nation can have them, but others can't.
Do you agree that the fewer countries that have nukes, the better the international community is? The US has shown that it is pretty responsible with the use of nukes (other than the unfortunate attacks on H&N and a few tests that went awry). Would you sleep more soundly with Iran and North Korea using nukes?
The ideal solution is for all countries to get rid of their strategic nuclear arms, and we're on the way to doing that. Imagine what a nightmare it would be if all of East Asia had nukes.
QUOTE
If we make things as powerful as the atomic bomb we would wreck havoc upon the world. The Iran war is considered the 4th world war
We did that over 50 years ago...
AngelinaTaylor
Jun 19 2006, 09:14 AM
I just feel so sorry for the world, and all those stupid, dumb, pathetic country leaders who decide to build them, because that's how the world's going to end - nuclear weapons and f**king hatred.. Is that what we need? I doubt it.. But people are too idiotic to understand it..
The damage's already been done. Let them build niclear weapons, let them f**king kill us..
Taylor``
Crich323
Jun 19 2006, 03:06 PM
I say no. I mean, what's the point besides trying to prove that we're better.
Don't we already have enough nuclear bombs to destroy the planet?
The Nocturnal Phantom
Jun 19 2006, 03:11 PM
Even if the U.S. were to make new nukes, they wouldn't say it. It would be top secret. Otherwise, it'll start an arms race, which is already currently going online secretively. >.> <.< >.> <.<
sakaitone
Jun 19 2006, 07:27 PM
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 19 2006, 8:59 AM)

We did that over 50 years ago...
Does that matter? When the U.S. bombed Japan. Most people don't learn from thier mistakes and as they say history repeats itself. If we learned from the 1st war we had to not have war, do you think there would no war in history after that 1st war? If we had learned not to have war, would be discussing having nukes right now?
mipadi
Jun 19 2006, 11:48 PM
QUOTE(The Nocturnal Phantom @ Jun 19 2006, 4:11 PM)

Even if the U.S. were to make new nukes, they wouldn't say it. It would be top secret. Otherwise, it'll start an arms race, which is already currently going online secretively. >.> <.< >.> <.<
An arms race
is the issue, but, as the article states, the US hasn't exactly made it a secret that they are considering the pursuit of new weapons.
demolished
Jun 20 2006, 01:10 AM
QUOTE(magicfann @ Jun 15 2006, 10:40 AM)

doesnt matter if u nuke china, we have so many ppl we'll just bum rush u and friggin own the U.S. real hard
What the f**k? Is china really f**ked up? Are they seriously going to let people died no matter what?
Whoa, there are some moral issues.
Maybe, that’s why China is label one of top “smartest” countries because they have a pretty high amount of knowledge. They don’t care about moral educations or what?
Beside, is China a wealthy city? why is their enviroment so bad?
kryogenix
Jun 20 2006, 02:15 PM
QUOTE(sakaitone @ Jun 19 2006, 8:27 PM)

Does that matter? When the U.S. bombed Japan. Most people don't learn from thier mistakes and as they say history repeats itself. If we learned from the 1st war we had to not have war, do you think there would no war in history after that 1st war? If we had learned not to have war, would be discussing having nukes right now?
There hasn't been a nuclear weapon used in anger since... And that's what we're trying to prevent.
sakaitone
Jun 20 2006, 05:11 PM
QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Jun 20 2006, 2:10 AM)

What the f**k? Is china really f**ked up? Are they seriously going to let people died no matter what?
Whoa, there are some moral issues.
Maybe, that’s why China is label one of top “smartest” countries because they have a pretty high amount of knowledge. They don’t care about moral educations or what?
Beside, is China a wealthy city? why is their enviroment so bad?
You asked if China is a city? You're joking right? It's the world's 3rd largest country and you ask if it's a city. Are you failing Social Studies? No offense.
Honestly, Spiritual Winged Aura you can't assume China has moral issues based on what ONE person said. That's so close minded, you're stereo-typing the Chinese goverment based on a person who spends their time online making empty threats, that probably don't have that much power in goverment anyway. There are millions, maybe even billions of people in China and you're going to throw away sense and make assumtions about a WHOLE country on ONE person. I don't want to be rude but that's pretty stupid.
kryogenix
Jun 21 2006, 09:28 AM
QUOTE(sakaitone @ Jun 20 2006, 6:11 PM)

You asked if China is a city? You're joking right? It's the world's 3rd largest country and you ask if it's a city. Are you failing Social Studies? No offense.
Honestly, Spiritual Winged Aura you can't assume China has moral issues based on what ONE person said. That's so close minded, you're stereo-typing the Chinese goverment based on a person who spends their time online making empty threats, that probably don't have that much power in goverment anyway. There are millions, maybe even billions of people in China and you're going to throw away sense and make assumtions about a WHOLE country on ONE person. I don't want to be rude but that's pretty stupid.
China is making loads of money at the expense of its environment (actually, at the expense of other countries' environments, but that's a different story). All countries do it, but China is notorious for its pollution and lack of concern for public safety if it means making more money.
demolished
Jun 21 2006, 04:53 PM
QUOTE(sakaitone @ Jun 20 2006, 3:11 PM)

You asked if China is a city? You're joking right? It's the world's 3rd largest country and you ask if it's a city. Are you failing Social Studies? No offense.
Honestly, Spiritual Winged Aura you can't assume China has moral issues based on what ONE person said. That's so close minded, you're stereo-typing the Chinese goverment based on a person who spends their time online making empty threats, that probably don't have that much power in goverment anyway. There are millions, maybe even billions of people in China and you're going to throw away sense and make assumtions about a WHOLE country on ONE person. I don't want to be rude but that's pretty stupid.
read and ...
comprehend
every word ..
again.
AND think again.
thank you.
sakaitone
Jun 21 2006, 09:08 PM
OK look, if I am offending by any means I am sorry but you did ask if China was really that f**Ked up and I just thought that you shouldn't be so...I don't know...Close-minded. It's nice you have your your opinion and if I by any means offended you, then sorry. I kind of have a thing of exploding at people and that really gives me no right to insult you in any way,shape or form, so sorry again. I really didn't mean anything. It's amazing how many sorrys I can fit into one message. Yes, it's probably true that the enviroment is getting worse and that it's pretty "smart" as you put it. I agree with kryogenix about all the other countries. Like I said before, we should put aside war and work on inportant life saving issues like a cure for AIDS or a way to end world hunger....That's something most people can benfit from.
demolished
Jun 22 2006, 12:12 AM
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ... i was testing his knowledge with load of question marks.
I know China isnt really f**ked up before anyone mentioned it . i wasnt intentionally speaking directly about China. In a way, i was only making that dude look more "uneducated" with my rude questions. Since he was rambling his outrageous video thoughts, i would like to act retarded as well … of course, for fun.
however, where are you from? i guess, our form of comprehending language is probably a bit different. And i accept that.
sakaitone
Jun 22 2006, 02:28 PM
It's really hard to get through what you're saying, when I can't hear you say it or sense you TONE of saying it, I find it easier to understand a person when you can observe them in person. Yea, because I am a very very slow person...in a way but no less cynical. If you're asking me where I am from. Well, where do you think I am from?
demolished
Jun 22 2006, 06:14 PM
i dont see you as a slow person ... oh well.
China?
sakaitone
Jun 23 2006, 09:15 PM
You would think so...but no. Not China. New York. I am kind of "concerned" about the future of America....Concerned isn't the right word...I could try "struck with unbelievable fear of stupidity in the U.S." which both seem to be a little too mean...which is really cynical and some what outrageous. I would like to save that for some old mad-at-the-world reporter. The U.S. is going on a blood-lust fest with all this war and creating nukes.
innovation
Jun 24 2006, 07:44 PM
First of all, we're not debating the morality of the Chinese government. We're debating US nuclear policy.
Secondly, kryogenix, what is the difference between strategic and tactical weapons?
QUOTE
How can we argue that it's okay for us to not only have nukes, but make nukes, yet it's not okay for, say, Iran or North Korea to do the same?
According to the NPT, the five nuclear weapon states (NWS) are the US, the UK, the Russian Federation, China, and France. Non-nuclear weapon states that have signed the NPT have also agreed not to pursue nuclear weapons, and thus, by international law, Iran may not possess nuclear weapons, since it is subject to the NPT.
North Korea withdrew from the NPT, but that shouldn't excuse it from offenses committed before withdrawal. Here lies a flaw within the NPT-- no retribution for offensive nations after withdrawal from the NPT. That's why there has been so much discussion about inserting an exit clause that in some ways punishes nations from withdrawing.
However, I do agree that the US hasn't exactly been abiding by the NPT either. In this treaty, the NWS, including the US, agreed to commit to reduction of arms and eventual disarmament. My question is.. are these new weapons meant to replace the old ones? In other words, will the US destroy old weapons in exchange for fewer new weapons (if that makes any sense)?
mipadi
Jun 27 2006, 02:51 PM
I understand that legally, there are certain treaties forbidding some nations from having nuclear weapons. I'm asking the question in the context of morals and ethics. Are these treaties even ethical or fair? Why or why not?
sakaitone
Jul 1 2006, 11:22 PM
QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 27 2006, 3:51 PM)

I understand that legally, there are certain treaties forbidding some nations from having nuclear weapons. I'm asking the question in the context of morals and ethics. Are these treaties even ethical or fair? Why or why not?
It doesn't seem fair....treaties are meant to supply PEACE, not who can have nukes and who can't.

This is so 2nd grade. A second grader has 2 cupcakes, and she has two friends who both want a cupcake. Of course, she wants one for herself since it's hers, she gets it but who should get the other one? The one that's nicer to her or the one who has been her friend longer? The reasonable answer is cut the cupcake in half. But how are the countries going to cut the amount of nukes into even amounts. Not everyone is willing to share... So I really don't think it's fair, they should all have the same amount of nukes and I hope it would be a small amount.
NinjaxMageLayouts
Jul 4 2006, 05:29 AM
No the us should not make nukes and we should try to prevent bush'es dumb a$$ from getting us into foreign affairs that we shouldnt be in because now korea vowed to bomb us with a nuke if we attack pre-emphitaly <--i cant spell that but oh well.And if a nuke is blasted,its the end of the world because the chemicals in the bomb is so bad and it will spread every where because of the wind,and it will travel around the world.Killing us.
demolished
Jul 4 2006, 06:24 AM
......... so ?
we have the checks and balance crap.
one can override the president's decisions.
we have representatives, senate .. and etc.
BabypeachesLR
Jul 4 2006, 09:41 AM
QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Jul 4 2006, 6:24 AM)

......... so ?
we have the checks and balance crap.
one can override the president's decisions.
we have representatives, senate .. and etc.
And that doesnt stop them from bombing us.What the hell can balance checks do to help us from being bombed.If they bomb us this whole world dies because of the chemicals will travel in the wind.
sakaitone
Jul 4 2006, 12:15 PM
QUOTE(BabypeachesLR @ Jul 4 2006, 10:41 AM)

And that doesnt stop them from bombing us.What the hell can balance checks do to help us from being bombed.If they bomb us this whole world dies because of the chemicals will travel in the wind.
Wind? Do you mean radiation or something? Are you saying that if they bomb the U.S. that it will eventually kill the world? Hey, they bombed Japan and the rest of us aren't dead.
snak3y3z1001
Jul 4 2006, 12:31 PM
QUOTE(NinjaxMageLayouts @ Jul 4 2006, 6:29 AM)

No the us should not make nukes and we should try to prevent bush'es dumb a$$ from getting us into foreign affairs that we shouldnt be in because now korea vowed to bomb us with a nuke if we attack pre-emphitaly <--i cant spell that but oh well.And if a nuke is blasted,its the end of the world because the chemicals in the bomb is so bad and it will spread every where because of the wind,and it will travel around the world.Killing us.
one nuke wont destroy the world

now if we blasted every single nukes from a single boomer then the world could be destroy. forgot how many we have around the world
NinjaxMageLayouts
Jul 5 2006, 12:30 AM
QUOTE(sakaitone @ Jul 4 2006, 12:15 PM)

Wind? Do you mean radiation or something? Are you saying that if they bomb the U.S. that it will eventually kill the world? Hey, they bombed Japan and the rest of us aren't dead.
Thats because it wasnt a nuke.
QUOTE
one nuke wont destroy the world now if we blasted every single nukes from a single boomer then the world could be destroy. forgot how many we have around the world
Please dont tell me that,im scared off my a$$ that korea will bomb us and i really really hope not........but anyway one nuke can destroy the world because of the radiation and the chemicals will pollute the water,and our needed sources and it will kill us slowly.For now all america can do is pray that it wont happen.
snak3y3z1001
Jul 5 2006, 07:42 AM
^^ if that was true dont you think we be dead by now? the two atomic bombs that we dropped on Japan during WWII was a type of nuclear bomb. Millions of people died and shitload of people got contaminated by radiation. However Japan are still thriving. US have done a few test on US soil as well. We're still alive and breathing.
magicfann
Jul 5 2006, 08:04 AM
QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Jun 22 2006, 1:12 AM)

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ... i was testing his knowledge with load of question marks.
I know China isnt really f**ked up before anyone mentioned it . i wasnt intentionally speaking directly about China. In a way, i was only making that dude look more "uneducated" with my rude questions. Since he was rambling his outrageous video thoughts, i would like to act retarded as well … of course, for fun.
however, where are you from? i guess, our form of comprehending language is probably a bit different. And i accept that.
uh duhhhh i think you should stop taking everything i say seriously cuz honestly i like to dick around on these forums a lot
"is china really such a rich city?"
yes, china is a very rich city, especially with all these subcities like shanghai and beijing uh duhhrrrr gg try passing world studies before you start saying i look 'uneducated'
mipadi
Jul 5 2006, 12:35 PM
QUOTE(NinjaxMageLayouts @ Jul 5 2006, 1:30 AM)

Thats because it wasnt a nuke.
A "nuke" is a colloquial term for any nuclear weapon. The atomic bombs dropped on Japan, then, are considered to be "nukes".
QUOTE(NinjaxMageLayouts @ Jul 5 2006, 1:30 AM)

Please dont tell me that,im scared off my a$$ that korea will bomb us and i really really hope not........but anyway one nuke can destroy the world because of the radiation and the chemicals will pollute the water,and our needed sources and it will kill us slowly.For now all america can do is pray that it wont happen.
A single nuke would not destroy the world, nor cause most of the world to come to great harm. Radiation would kill people in a certain area and poison other life forms in a nearby area, and could cause
some trouble over a greater distance depending on weather conditions, but it would not destroy the world or even all life on Earth.
kryogenix
Jul 5 2006, 02:35 PM
Heck even several atomic explosions would not destroy the world. The whole nuclear winter theory was brought about by the propaganda campaigns of the Soviet Union and US in order to keep a policy of MAD.
demolished
Jul 6 2006, 09:39 PM
QUOTE(magicfann @ Jul 5 2006, 6:04 AM)

uh duhhhh i think you should stop taking everything i say seriously cuz honestly i like to dick around on these forums a lot
"is china really such a rich city?"
yes, china is a very rich city, especially with all these subcities like shanghai and beijing uh duhhrrrr gg try passing world studies before you start saying i look 'uneducated'
uh huhhhhh.

is china a cool country?
ECD & C0
Jul 7 2006, 07:43 PM
QUOTE
I think we should try and keep other countries from having neuclear weapons, and build them ourselves It's a doggy dog world out there, and if we need to defend ourselves, then we should
werd
QUOTE
You asked if China is a city? You're joking right? It's the world's 3rd largest country
its actually the 4th

if you count the total US and all of its territories but it is bigger then the continental US
QUOTE
The area of the United States is 9,631,418 sq km, or 3,718,711 sq miles - about half the size of Russia; about three-tenths the size of Africa; about half the size of South America (or slightly larger than Brazil); slightly larger than China; about two and a half times the size of Western Europe
fameONE
Jul 8 2006, 03:14 AM
War by atrition is the way of the future. *LoL*
Seriously though... yes.
Give war a chance.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please
click here.