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faithin_felix
do you believe in life after death?
Kathleen
laugh.gif I'm sorry, but that reminds me of that Cher song, even though it's, "Do you believe in life after love?" Haha.

Okay, yeah, I believe in reincarnation. _smile.gif
tkproduce
It's nice to believe that you get something after death. I'd like to believe that I'd be able to meet again the ones I've lost.
RiddleMeWonders
Well Yes.

I was in Sunday School the other day, and I've always thought of it this way, so it surprised me when this guy thought of it like that too. He was like "I was arguing with this girl, and she was telling me some stuff and making some very good points about why she shouldn't believe in God like, "All those people starving, if there was a god, they wouldnt let that happen" and I told her, I sat right there next to her, and I said, Flow, You may be well right. Say you are right. When we die, there is nothing, no burning flames, no purgatory, no heaven, and when we die, That's it. We're done.. But If I'm right, and there is a God.... Where does that leave you? It's my insurance"
rivendell
Believing that once you die you have some place to go is rather comforting. It makes death seem less final and more of a transition. I'd like to believe there's something to look forward to after I die.

Wouldn't it be nice if it was like that scene about heaven in Monty Python's the Meaning of Life? It's always Christmas ... floor shows nightly ... laugh.gif
AngelicEyz00
I believe in reincarnation. You know that energy doesn't like die off?? Energy is preserved, so when you die the energy is still around on earth again, and then yeah... Heh, I dunno, but you can thank my mom's side of the family for my belief in superstitions such as that... According to my calculations (kinda weird)n I'm on my 2nd life? err, i'm not weird, k? KaY!
iheartsimba
yes.

i may not have a scientific exlpaination.

but it's just what i think will happen...

I think this life is just the beginning,

that we won't just be "done"

when people stop seeing us
faithin_felix
QUOTE(AngelicEyz00 @ May 18 2004, 3:34 PM)
I believe in reincarnation. You know that energy doesn't like die off?? Energy is preserved, so when you die the energy is still around on earth again, and then yeah... Heh, I dunno, but you can thank my mom's side of the family for my belief in superstitions such as that... According to my calculations (kinda weird)n I'm on my 2nd life? err, i'm not weird, k? KaY!

2nd life eh? awesome...


i think when we die, we are still floating around in some dimension not earth, earth was created as the 3D dimension where us, mortals, humans exist. where we try to find the end of the universe, but our life was created so that we would never get out of the third dimension. we will be living as spirits without our bodies, and our bodies will be just left in the 3D world.

of course, some of you people may heard of the chinese myth, where when we die, there is a gate with a old lady, she will ask us to drink this bowl of herbal tea and we will forget about everything and then live in our next life. But some rumor/news said some people still remember what they were last life, this article said this child whose life before was a pig, and now he still has a pig hand because he didn't reborn well enough.
EmeraldKnight
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of course, some of you people may heard of the chinese myth, where when we die, there is a gate with a old lady, she will ask us to drink this bowl of herbal tea and we will forget about everything and then live in our next life. But some rumor/news said some people still remember what they were last life, this article said this child whose life before was a pig, and now he still has a pig hand because he didn't reborn well enough.

I havent heard of that myth.. and i'm chinese ohmy.gif

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i think when we die, we are still floating around in some dimension not earth, earth was created as the 3D dimension where us, mortals, humans exist. where we try to find the end of the universe, but our life was created so that we would never get out of the third dimension. we will be living as spirits without our bodies, and our bodies will be just left in the 3D world.


Yeah.. I'd like to think that... oh! it reminds me of this book I read, either "The Bridge Across Forever" or "One", both by Richard Bach, but i cant remember which one had it, anyways, the main character was investigating astral projection, and (supposedly Bach is writing about his own experiences) and he is able, in his sleep to project himself from his body, like he could see his body laying there, attached with a golden chord, and he could fly anywhere.. but when he collded with someone, he'd be instantly jerked back into his body and wake up.. and he theorized that when we die, all that simply happens is that we float out of our bodies like in astral projection, except that its permanent, and the chord is cut.. now i'm not sure how much, if any of that, is true, but i'd sure like to think it is
AmesBond
I beleive there's a heaven (whether there's a God or not, you believe what you want), and then everyone's just realxing and having fun all peaceful and stuff, and if you want to be reincarnated, there's this big Slide-o'-Reincarnation and you slip back into the world if you want. I suppose there is a "hell," but that's so dreary to think about.
Spirited Away
QUOTE(faithin_felix @ May 18 2004, 11:46 PM)
of course, some of you people may heard of the chinese myth, where when we die, there is a gate with a old lady, she will ask us to drink this bowl of herbal tea and we will forget about everything and then live in our next life. But some rumor/news said some people still remember what they were last life, this article said this child whose life before was a pig, and now he still has a pig hand because he didn't reborn well enough.

Tea? I thought it was porridge?

Never mind, I think different cultures have a different explaination for it...
CJ1
I belive in being saved when Christ returns and going to have eternal life and going to the Holy City.

I don't believe in resurrection.
ComradeRed
"Life is short. Live it up."
--Nikita Khrushchev

Sound advice.

"Khrushchev looks like a giant teddy bear."
--One of my classmates

Equally sound observation.
faithin_felix
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 19 2004, 3:47 PM)
Tea? I thought it was porridge?

Never mind, I think different cultures have a different explaination for it...

herbal tea, if your cantonese, it is "fu cha"

but it is not porridge, it could be "jok" congee. but not porridge for sure.
EmeraldKnight
Back to the topic.. my question is... how is this a debate? it seems to me just posting our own separate beliefs..
Spirited Away
How are we off topic? We're discussing whether or not its tea or porridge that we consume when passing to the other side.. We're very on topic.

I don't really care much for the afterlife... if it's there then 'wooo hooo', if not then oh well. I lived, I can't complain.
EmeraldKnight
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How are we off topic? We're discussing whether or not its tea or porridge that we consume when passing to the other side.. We're very on topic.

I don't really care much for the afterlife... if it's there then 'wooo hooo', if not then oh well. I lived, I can't complain.

well... i meant offtopic as in debating i guess.. i dont know.. this doesnt seem like a very viable debate
Spirited Away
QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 19 2004, 9:20 PM)
well... i meant offtopic as in debating i guess.. i dont know.. this doesnt seem like a very viable debate

I guess, it does seem that the question is whether or not we believe in an afterlife. happy.gif
IIO__oII
yea there IS life after death...
its either heaven or hell...
if ure a christian, its heaven--paridise
if ure a nonchristian, it hell-- cant even explain how HORRIBLE it is
EmeraldKnight
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yea there IS life after death...
its either heaven or hell...
if ure a christian, its heaven--paridise
if ure a nonchristian, it hell-- cant even explain how HORRIBLE it is 

Ok, that is your opinion, your beliefs, there is no evidence behind it, just religious indoctrination

But hey, at least you gave us something to debate about laugh.gif
Spirited Away
QUOTE(IIO__oII @ May 19 2004, 9:25 PM)
yea there IS life after death...
its either heaven or hell...
if ure a christian, its heaven--paridise
if ure a nonchristian, it hell-- cant even explain how HORRIBLE it is

Woopee! By your standard, I'll be going to hell along with the other major world's population!

I'll see you there heathens!
huihead
hMm i don't know.. i wonder about it sometimes though
faithin_felix
QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 19 2004, 9:11 PM)
Back to the topic.. my question is... how is this a debate? it seems to me just posting our own separate beliefs..

dude, stop acting like so professional, why don't you just debate instead of asking so many question in EVERY topic, i'm getting annoyed and you all your lodgical reasoning, and we are discussing because that is impled with the topic if there is life after death. now if you excuse us.
EmeraldKnight
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dude, stop acting like so professional, why don't you just debate instead of asking so many question in EVERY topic, i'm getting annoyed and you all your lodgical reasoning, and we are discussing because that is impled with the topic if there is life after death. now if you excuse us

Alright alright, sheesh.. and I dont do this in EVERY topic, just this one, and possibly one more cuz no one was realli saying much, you dont need to be so harsh
likeachild
yup

there'd be nothing else to look forward to
CEP
QUOTE(faithin_felix @ May 19 2004, 10:27 PM)
dude, stop acting like so professional, why don't you just debate instead of asking so many question in EVERY topic, i'm getting annoyed and you all your lodgical reasoning, and we are discussing because that is impled with the topic if there is life after death. now if you excuse us.

Felix, he's kinda right though.
It isn't much of a debate when nobody debates. wink.gif

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yea there IS life after death...
its either heaven or hell...
if ure a christian, its heaven--paridise
if ure a nonchristian, it hell-- cant even explain how HORRIBLE it is

So by your standard, our good Christian Klan members who lynched innocent people are going safely to heaven, while really good citizens that just happened to be jewish or muslim are going to hell?

Wow.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi
stryker76
I feel that your spirit goes some place....where i dunno but i think it goes some place....maybe paradice.....maybe into another organismmaybe u just start over....u never kno
strice
eh, i'm dead, i'm dead. if i have to go with some spiritual hokey pokey, i'll go with bhuddist reincarnation.
IIO__oII
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Woopee! By your standard, I'll be going to hell along with the other major world's population!

I'll see you there heathens!


well... MOST of the world population is christian-- catholics, protestants, etc....

if u dont believe that jesus died and resurrected after 3 days and if u dont accept him into ure heart, then u dont go to heaven.. its ure choice to believe...

and i dunt think u want to be kidding about going to hell.. its such a horrible place. i dunt want anione going there. sad.gif
Spirited Away
QUOTE(IIO__oII @ May 21 2004, 10:23 PM)
well... MOST of the world population is christian-- catholics, protestants, etc....

Do you have statistics for that claim? There are many other religions and while Christianity may the the one dominant religion, that doesn't mean that more than half of the world's population follows that faith.
IIO__oII
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Do you have statistics for that claim? There are many other religions and while Christianity may the the one dominant religion, that doesn't mean that more than half of the world's population follows that faith.

actually-- i DO... i have it frm bible class [i go to a christian skool...] but i dont have it rite now. i'll have it maybe on monday when i get back to skool happy.gif
Spirited Away
No need to wait til class.

Go here.

Scroll to the pie chart. It states that Christianity dominates the world by 33%. However, if you add up all the other religions: Hindus, Muslims, non-religions, atheists, Buddhists alone, you would get more than 33%.

In shorter words, other religions combined are the majority.
angel-roh
NO !!

four words

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go
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heaven

and thats that... theres no rebirth...we jus stay in heaven...forget the pain and memories.
princess2113
HEAVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WAHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
WildGriffin
Ya know, just because you say you believe God doesn't mean you're going to heaven. I may not be a religious nut, but I know that much.

It really depends on which God you believe in though. The fire and brimstone kickass God from 2000 years ago that would smite your ass if you even squeeked a word about evolution, or our modernized conservative God that people softned up for today's oh-so-very tough world.

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dude, stop acting like so professional, why don't you just debate instead of asking so many question in EVERY topic, i'm getting annoyed and you all your lodgical reasoning, and we are discussing because that is impled with the topic if there is life after death. now if you excuse us


Dude, wow. God forbid there are "questions" and "logical reasonings" in a debate, I mean seriously. I mean, the mere thought is laughable. Haha.

Dumbass.
princess2113
QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 22 2004, 9:53 AM)
Ya know, just because you say you believe God doesn't mean you're going to heaven. I may not be a religious nut, but I know that much.

It really depends on which God you believe in though. The fire and brimstone kickass God from 2000 years ago that would smite your ass if you even squeeked a word about evolution, or our modernized conservative God that people softned up for today's oh-so-very tough world.



Dude, wow. God forbid there are "questions" and "logical reasonings" in a debate, I mean seriously. I mean, the mere thought is laughable. Haha.

Dumbass.

no...saying u believe in God doesnt get u to Heaven...BELIEVING in God gets ya to Heaven...and i wrote abt the evolution topic...i think evolution is possible HOW God created the Universe...n ill state this other part AGAIN...ITS OK TO DOUBT....He doesnt "smite your ass"...He wants u to ask questions...shows u r thinking deeply abt Him..usually...we dunt "soften Him up" He is a loving God...thats all their is to it...
IIO__oII
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no...saying u believe in God doesnt get u to Heaven...BELIEVING in God gets ya to Heaven...and i wrote abt the evolution topic...i think evolution is possible HOW God created the Universe...n ill state this other part AGAIN...ITS OK TO DOUBT....He doesnt "smite your ass"...He wants u to ask questions...shows u r thinking deeply abt Him..usually...we dunt "soften Him up" He is a loving God...thats all their is to it...


amen! =] but i dunt think God created the earth by evolution... cause in the bible, it spceifially says that God created everything BY MOUTH.... happy.gif
princess2113
QUOTE(IIO__oII @ May 22 2004, 3:28 PM)
amen! =] but i dunt think God created the earth by evolution... cause in the bible, it spceifially says that God created everything BY MOUTH.... happy.gif

well He said "Let there be..." and it took 7 days(6 days of work...1day of rest) but we dunno how long a day is to Him...n He could "command" creation by evolution...its not what i personally believe..only in some cases....but i was just pointing out that u can be Christian n believe in evoltion
princess2113
QUOTE(chinkieeyedpnoi @ May 20 2004, 9:01 AM)
Felix, he's kinda right though.
It isn't much of a debate when nobody debates. wink.gif


So by your standard, our good Christian Klan members who lynched innocent people are going safely to heaven, while really good citizens that just happened to be jewish or muslim are going to hell?

Wow.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

no Jews are a differant story...Jesus was a Jew...when He came Christianity became...He says something special will happen with Jews...we just dunno what that is yet
IIO__oII
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well He said "Let there be..." and it took 7 days(6 days of work...1day of rest) but we dunno how long a day is to Him...n He could "command" creation by evolution...its not what i personally believe..only in some cases....but i was just pointing out that u can be Christian n believe in evoltion


hmmm... but in the bible, it said that he made man frm his own image.. and that he formed man frm the dust of the ground... and that when God breathed the breath of life in his nostrils, the man became a liviing being... so how can that agree with evolution?
IIO__oII
also... do u guys think that the earth will last forever? if u dont think so, where will everyone go then?
princess2113
QUOTE(IIO__oII @ May 22 2004, 4:05 PM)
hmmm... but in the bible, it said that he made man frm his own image.. and that he formed man frm the dust of the ground... and that when God breathed the breath of life in his nostrils, the man became a liviing being... so how can that agree with evolution?

well b/c the grond was created 1st in the Creation story...ppl came later (Adam n Eve)...same with the story of evolution..parts of evolution i htink r u just plainly messed up...but parts can still b correct
IIO__oII
QUOTE]well b/c the grond was created 1st in the Creation story...ppl came later (Adam n Eve)...same with the story of evolution..parts of evolution i htink r u just plainly messed up...but parts can still b correct
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oo i c wut ure saying.. i think. u talkin about just the order? or..? _unsure.gif [
machinoman
[sarcasm]i believe in heaven. and the earth is flat. and the sun revolves around us.[/sarcasm]

i dont think its wrong of you weirdos to think people like me will burn forever, but i do think its bizarre. really bizarre.

but im a masicist so im cool no matter what happens, death or eternal torment. or maybe my eternal hell will be sitting paralysed in a chair forced to watch the bible network. now that would suck.
Spirited Away
QUOTE(machinoman @ May 22 2004, 10:28 PM)
i dont think its wrong of you weirdos to think people like me will burn forever, but i do think its bizarre. really bizarre.

but im a masicist so im cool no matter what happens, death or eternal torment. or maybe my eternal hell will be sitting paralysed in a chair forced to watch the bible network. now that would suck.

If that's the case, I'll be the poor sod screaming in pain sitting right next to you. laugh.gif . We'll be burning together.

Kind of a sad outlook for an afterlife, but hey, that's why you gotta live this one to your fullest!
IIO__oII
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i dont think its wrong of you weirdos to think people like me will burn forever, but i do think its bizarre. really bizarre.

but im a masicist so im cool no matter what happens, death or eternal torment. or maybe my eternal hell will be sitting paralysed in a chair forced to watch the bible network. now that would suck


u guys SERIOUSLY shouldnt be sarcastic about hell... its seriously a horrible place!!!! it might sound blah blah to u, but..... huh.gif noone would want to go there if they seriously knew wut it was like... pinch.gif i dunt think ud actually burn in hell... muchhh worse
princess2113
QUOTE(IIO__oII @ May 23 2004, 12:39 AM)
u guys SERIOUSLY shouldnt be sarcastic about hell... its seriously a horrible place!!!! it might sound blah blah to u, but..... huh.gif noone would want to go there if they seriously knew wut it was like... pinch.gif i dunt think ud actually burn in hell... muchhh worse

hell is way more then burning.....for one u'll b in pain b/c u'll b away frum God...u really shuldnt b all rude abt it....
ComradeRed
QUOTE(anqel_r0h @ May 22 2004, 6:54 AM)
NO !!

four words

we
.
.
.
go
.
.
.
to
.
.
.
heaven

and thats that... theres no rebirth...we jus stay in heaven...forget the pain and memories.

But I like the memories.
IIO__oII
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But I like the memories.

the good memories-- yes u'll remember and cherish with all ure other friends and family that went to heaven with u

the bad ones-- forget it. theres only good in heaven, no tears and pain
CEP
QUOTE(princess2113 @ May 22 2004, 1:44 PM)
no Jews are a differant story...Jesus was a Jew...when He came Christianity became...He says something special will happen with Jews...we just dunno what that is yet

That wasn't my point, though.
What I'm trying to say is that, it's pretty damn stupid to say that believing in God alone will get you into heaven.
There are a sh*t loads of people who do the sickest things imaginable there and they all believe in God. So are they all going to heaven?
It wasn't about the Jews. I was talking about other religions on general.

Oh, BTW,IIO__oII, Hitler Believed in God.
So when you go to heaven, tell him I said, " Hi. "

- Chinkieeyedpnoi
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