Forums > Liberal or Conservative?

mipadi

Jun 2 2005, 10:41 AM

QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 17 2004, 4:42 PM)

Yeah:
liberals - more government
conservatives - less government

You'd think that's right, but then again, in recent years, political conservatives have been responsible for creating the government's largest bureaocracy (the Department of Homeland Defense).

CrackedRearView

Jun 2 2005, 03:42 PM

Republican - 8 years, Republican - 4 years, Democrat - 8 years, Republican - 8 years, Republican - 8 years, Democrat - 4 years, Democrat - 4 years, Republican - 8 years, Republican - 4 years...

You see where I'm going with this?

racoons > you

Jun 2 2005, 03:46 PM

no... im stupid. lol.

explain. im bad with patterns

waitwaitwait

Jun 2 2005, 03:53 PM

QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 16 2004, 9:08 PM)

moderate. both sides have their pros and cons.

Agreed.

not_your_average

Jun 2 2005, 07:28 PM

Bolded= my opinion
Italics= should be limited

QUOTE(AngelicEyz00 @ May 17 2004, 3:38 PM)

Liberalism
*Progressivism
*Green Party or Democratic Party
*Pro-Choice
*Higher Taxes for social programs
*Seperation of church and state
*More government involvement in business
*Everyone wealthier if gov't is involved
*against death penalty--immoral, vengeful, ineffective
*War as a last resort-- doves
*Conservation of environment
*More lenient regarding immigration
*Question the 2nd amendment (the right to bear arms) because guns lead to violence, widespread death, etc.
*They're for scientific exploration
*Freedom of speech--all speech protected
*For gay marriages---right to choose
*Less walthy

Conservatism
*Republicans
*Pro-Life
*Prayer in school
*Against Gay Marriages
*traditional morality
*For the 2nd amendent
*Low taxes
*Small gov't
*Laissez faire-- let do
*Private ownership
*For death penalty-- "an eye for an eye"
*Against cloning-- unnatural, playing god, goes against traditional beliefs
*Wealthy
*Controlled immigration
*Sound science
*Religious in schools
*Policemen of the world
*Affirmative action
*War viewed as partiotic (hawks)

I'm much more liberal, but we need certain restrictions.

xcaitlinx

Jun 2 2005, 07:34 PM

100000000000000% liberal, thank you very much

notice how most of the points listed under conservative are about god and christian/catholic religion.

technicolour

Jun 2 2005, 10:13 PM

republican 100%..but i'm a nice one..i don't hate the liberals..just when they're on tv lying. i hate kerry. i just don't get why everyone thinks bush is a quack. ehh..i'll shut up now

wokeupinadream

Jun 8 2005, 12:53 PM

i dont mean to contradict anyone, but ive been to liberal conventions-held at the gun shows. They believe in more gun rights. They arent trying to take them away.

wokeupinadream

Jun 8 2005, 01:15 PM

I decided to do some research and now im highly confused. The people at the 2 gun shows i met, were for the liberal party and were all for getting gun rights. "we have the right to own whatever weapons we want" they even tried recruiting me, but everything im finding says liberals are as was said for more gun control. so im sorry for my statement im just really confused now.

mipadi

Jun 8 2005, 01:18 PM

Were they liberals or libertarians?

wokeupinadream

Jun 8 2005, 01:37 PM

i thought they said liberals but now i have no idea. whats the difference with the two?

Heathasm

Jun 8 2005, 01:44 PM

i despise most liberals...i suppose i might be conservative...maybe not but i don't hate conservatives

mipadi

Jun 8 2005, 02:26 PM

QUOTE(wokeupinadream @ Jun 8 2005, 2:37 PM)

i thought they said liberals but now i have no idea. whats the difference with the two?

A liberal is a person on the "left" of the political spectrum; the term is most often associated with Democrats, although people from parties such as the Green Party could be considered liberals.

A libertarian is a person who believes strongly in individual freedom, and small government. They mostly believe that people should be free to do what they want, as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others. They uphold, among other things, freedom of speech and gun rights. In that sense, they are most often associated with the conservative ("Republican") side of the spectrum, although they have some more liberal leanings as well.

QUOTE(Heathasm @ Jun 8 2005, 2:44PM)

i despise most liberals...i suppose i might be conservative...maybe not but i don't hate conservatives

Just out of curiosity, what makes you "despise most liberals"?

sadolakced acid

Jun 9 2005, 12:18 AM

QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 8 2005, 2:26 PM)

A liberal is a person on the "left" of the political spectrum; the term is most often associated with Democrats, although people from parties such as the Green Party could be considered liberals.

A libertarian is a person who believes strongly in individual freedom, and small government. They mostly believe that people should be free to do what they want, as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others. They uphold, among other things, freedom of speech and gun rights. In that sense, they are most often associated with the conservative ("Republican") side of the spectrum, although they have some more liberal leanings as well.

it's easier to say libertarians are liberal about commerce and conservative about individual freedoms.