Winter
May 14 2004, 08:35 AM
I'm posting this up here coz when this was posted in another forum (kpopper) it started a MASSIVE debate. Things were never quite the same for most of us even after the topic was closed because it got really chaotic and people were practically screaming at each other...
So, can you live without love?
For me, yes I can definitely live without love. If I lose someone I really love, heck life goes on. You might just freeze right there but time goes on. Nothing stops time. As long as you still breathe, then you are still alive. That is the meaning of being alive to me. Even if a part of you dies when someone you love dies or walks out of your life, you are still alive. You eat, you walk, you feel emotions.
I wonder if someone will say they can't live without love... Coz createBlog just seems to be filled with more rasional and maured people.
Spirited Away
May 14 2004, 09:46 AM
Well, there's love between man/woman; familial love; love for tangible things, like ice cream or chocolat; love for a pet; love for a higher being; love for a passion, like music or charity.
There's not just one type of love. I will say that I do not need the love between man and woman and I do not need love for tangible things. But the others loves, I think I cannot survive without them. I have a strong sense of family; I love my dogs to death (they are like bothers and sisters to me); I have many passions; and I do carry a love a higher being, even though I do not know how far that extends to.
So, I guess the 'with love' outweights the 'without love' for me.
tkproduce
May 14 2004, 09:50 AM
If you believe that the purpose of life is to reproduce and carry on your genes for the survival of the species, then yea, you can live without love.
If life is more than that for you, then what is it that gives you the will for you to live?
Spirited Away
May 14 2004, 09:56 AM
QUOTE(tkproduce @ May 14 2004, 9:50 AM)
If you believe that the purpose of life is to reproduce and carry on your genes for the survival of the species, then yea, you can live without love.
If you believe in it, you'd have a passion for it, I think, and if you have a passion for it, you'd love to be able to achieve it.
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If life is more than that for you, then what is it that gives you the will for you to live?
Life itself? (can that be an answer?). Well, the things you experience in life will either give you a reason to live, or give you no reason. I think it's a matter of perspective. Depressed people would say that they have nothing to live for, while people who are passionate about life will have their own reasons for living.
krnxswat
May 14 2004, 11:19 AM
If you leave any kind of animal by itself, it will eventually die sooner or later. In my opinion, I think humans work in a similar fashion.
tinababy143
May 14 2004, 11:29 AM
Love is a many splendored thing
Love lifts us up where we belong
All you need is love
- Moulin Rouge
Nuff said
WildGriffin
May 14 2004, 12:02 PM
Love is the main goal in life, the purpose of life. Sure you can live without it, but you'll really be missing out.
Depending on and putting all your trust in someone is the greatest feeling. That's all life is about, finding someone to share it with.
But hey, if you wanna go "single player" mode through life that's alright too.
instantmusic
May 14 2004, 02:09 PM
nuns dont get any lovin, yet they still live. harsh.
WildGriffin
May 14 2004, 02:12 PM
QUOTE
nuns dont get any lovin, yet they still live. harsh.
They don't get "lovin", but they still get love from one another and God.
Kathleen
May 14 2004, 02:28 PM
Are you talking about one individual? Yes, individuals can live without love, but the question is: are they happy?
Of course, you can't have the whole planet living seperately without love, because then there will no longer be a race.
jewishbabeygirl87
May 14 2004, 02:38 PM
life goes on.
Flaunted
May 14 2004, 06:52 PM
u could but i don't think anyone would want to. because when u were born ur parents love u to death. wouldn't u want in return is to love them? seriously i <3 my friends and family and all my things if it wasn't they i would die.
Mireh
May 14 2004, 06:54 PM
You can live without love, but who would want to?
Imagine living in a world where you dispise everything. You have no family, you have no friends.
You hate everything.
Would you want to live?
CEP
May 14 2004, 07:04 PM
What Val said.
Sure you can live without it, but why would you want to?
My teacher told me about some babies in the USSR back then who were experimented on.
One half were secluded only to be properly nutritioned and taken cared of. The other half, was with nurses who would carry them and sway them and such.
The former didn't make it to two years of age.
- Chinkieeyedpnoi
PinoyOtaku
May 14 2004, 07:10 PM
QUOTE(chinkieeyedpnoi @ May 14 2004, 4:04 PM)
What Val said.
Sure you can live without it, but why would you want to?
My teacher told me about some babies in the USSR back then who were experimented on.
One half were secluded only to be properly nutritioned and taken cared of. The other half, was with nurses who would carry them and sway them and such.
The former didn't make it to two years of age.
- Chinkieeyedpnoi
Wow, the power of love...
melface
May 14 2004, 07:27 PM
I cannot... at all... and if I go without it... I'll start breaking down... and dig myself into a deeper depression...
Kathleen
May 14 2004, 08:24 PM
If we didn't need such a powerful thing as love, why would we exist?
TBoltzbabe
May 14 2004, 08:44 PM
i love love and love is the only thing that makes us different from animals. it's a gift to be able to love and be loved in return, so don't act as if you can live without it. love is what life is all about.
juliar
May 14 2004, 08:46 PM
Love is a want not a need. Right?
Kathleen
May 14 2004, 08:49 PM
QUOTE
Love is a want not a need. Right?
Hehe I second that! *Starts singing emo songs even though Jose doesn't want to hear it*
Spirited Away
May 14 2004, 09:17 PM
QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ May 14 2004, 8:44 PM)
love is the only thing that makes us different from animals.
Um, animals
can love.

edit:: in my opinion that is, but i can argue for it.
NatiMarie
May 14 2004, 09:41 PM
I don't think I could live without love because I would need some type of love to live by. I mean, as mentioned before, there are different types of love, not only a relationship type of love. I mean, love is fun and sometimes the only thing a person can live by. I mean, I would not want to not have love because it's always nice to have somebody or something (like a pet or something) to care for you. That's my opinion.
TBoltzbabe
May 14 2004, 10:36 PM
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 14 2004, 9:17 PM)
Um, animals
can love.

edit:: in my opinion that is, but i can argue for it.
alright... animals can be familiar with things, but tell me about your experiences loving as an elephant in your previous life (do NOT mention Dumbo)
Spirited Away
May 14 2004, 10:43 PM
QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ May 14 2004, 10:36 PM)
alright... animals can be familiar with things, but tell me about your experiences loving as an elephant in your previous life (do NOT mention Dumbo)
Huh? What does Dumbo have to do with anything? He's cartoon!
Edit:: or are you trying to say that I was an elephant? I'd consider that rude if I were nit-picky, but I'll let it slide.
An animal knows maternal love. Have you seen female animals care for their youngs?
I see it all the time on discovery channel: a rat races to carry her youngs out of the way of a hungry snake.
OR, if you want to speak of elephants:
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"And," said Apollonius, "you need not, Damis, confine your remarks to elephants; for this animal is only second to man, in my opinion, in understanding and foresight; but I am thinking rather of bears, for they are the fiercest of all animals, and yet they will do anything for their whelps; and also of wolves, amoung which, although they are so addicted to plunder, yet the female protects its young ones, and the male brings her food in order to save the life of the whelps.
Argue against that.
Edit:: and this:
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And who does not know the ways of birds, how that the eagles and the cranes will not build their nests until they have fixed in them, the one an eagle-stone, and other a stone of light, to help the hatching out of the eggs and to drive away the snakes.
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And if we look at creatures in the sea, we need not wonder at the dolphins loving their offspring, for they are superior creatures; but shall we not admire the whales and seals and the vivparious species? For I once saw a seal that was kept shut up at Aegae in the circus, and she mourned so deeply for her whelp, which had died after being born in confinement, that she refused food for three days together, although she is the most voracious of animals.
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'And in the case of all animals, then, their life lay in their children."
and I agree with you, for it is better so."
If that's not love, then what is?
TBoltzbabe
May 14 2004, 11:42 PM
wow you really are being nitpicky about one example, i'm sorry, but my opinion is this: Love is a god given gift and no one can live sanely without it
casssy
May 15 2004, 01:53 AM
I can live without it.. but i would rather not.. its the best thing in the world loving someone and being loved heh
jewishbabeygirl87
May 15 2004, 05:48 AM
you can. i do it everyday.
onenonly101
May 22 2004, 11:44 AM
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 14 2004, 9:56 AM)
Life itself? (can that be an answer?). Well, the things you experience in life will either give you a reason to live, or give you no reason. I think it's a matter of perspective. Depressed people would say that they have nothing to live for, while people who are passionate about life will have their own reasons for living.
If you didn't love life, then you wouldn't live it. Love is why we are still alive because if you could live iwthout it you wouldn't be here anymore. The opposite of love is hate so if you didn't love then you would hate so why continue to live your life anyways.
I don't think anyone could live without a type of real love not love for tangiable things. We say we could but we haven't truely experienced life without love so we can't say that we could live without it.
EmeraldKnight
May 22 2004, 02:10 PM
QUOTE
If you didn't love life, then you wouldn't live it. Love is why we are still alive because if you could live iwthout it you wouldn't be here anymore. The opposite of love is hate so if you didn't love then you would hate so why continue to live your life anyways.
I don't think anyone could live without a type of real love not love for tangiable things. We say we could but we haven't truely experienced life without love so we can't say that we could live without it.
I agree.. when many ppl read this topic, they think of love as in with the opposite sex, but there's also love for friends, family, tangible things like mentioned above, and love for oneself
Without love for life and for oneself, we truly cannot live.. thats why ppl commit suicide because they have lost their love of life and have nothing left to love or hold on to
Nashvixen
Feb 27 2005, 05:50 PM
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 14 2004, 10:46 AM)
Well, there's love between man/woman; familial love; love for tangible things, like ice cream or chocolat; love for a pet; love for a higher being; love for a passion, like music or charity.
There's not just one type of love. I will say that I do not need the love between man and woman and I do not need love for tangible things. But the others loves, I think I cannot survive without them. I have a strong sense of family; I love my dogs to death (they are like bothers and sisters to me); I have many passions; and I do carry a love a higher being, even though I do not know how far that extends to.
So, I guess the 'with love' outweights the 'without love' for me.
Hmm... same I guess. But I hate conditional relationships.
QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 14 2004, 1:02 PM)
Love is the main goal in life, the purpose of life. Sure you can live without it, but you'll really be missing out.
Depending on and putting all your trust in someone is the greatest feeling. That's all life is about, finding someone to share it with.
But hey, if you wanna go "single player" mode through life that's alright too.
Yes, it's the "greatest" feeling when it's returned. But I'm a single player.
QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 14 2004, 3:28 PM)
Are you talking about one individual? Yes, individuals can live without love, but the question is: are they happy?
Of course, you can't have the whole planet living seperately without love, because then there will no longer be a race.

Everything depends on definition. What is your definition of love?
There's sex, adoration, admiration, and liking.
I can live without sex. I can live without a husband (definitely so) and boyfriends. It would be very hard for me to live without the minor joys in life, though. Like wind. I love the feeling of the wind. I like rice. I'd hate never having a grain of rice to eat ever again. I wouldn't want to live without close plantonic friends, but I could, and still be happy, but not as happy as with them.
nevernothere
Feb 27 2005, 06:04 PM
I don't know if I could.. I live with relatively little love.. but.. none?
Spirited Away
Feb 27 2005, 10:02 PM
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 22 2004, 11:44 AM)
If you didn't love life, then you wouldn't live it. Love is why we are still alive because if you could live iwthout it you wouldn't be here anymore. The opposite of love is hate so if you didn't love then you would hate so why continue to live your life anyways.
... Life allows love to exist foremost, therefore, life itself is the reason to live.
But for the rest that's why I said it depends on perspective. For some, in life, they find love; for others, in love they find life.
Love and hate are passions. If a person loves to hate, he/she still has passion.
inthemudhole
Feb 28 2005, 12:12 AM
Not everyone wants/needs to be loved or cared about.
Even if you want or need that, you physically COULD live.
So, yes...technically you CAN live without love.
ryfitaDF
Feb 28 2005, 12:16 AM
it depends on what kind of love. if it's the love you get from your family, you can't live without it. if it's the kind you get from somone else, you can, but never want to.
xcaitlinx
Feb 28 2005, 07:09 AM
no i cannot. right now im single, but ive been so lonely lately...i really want a boyfriend. i cant imagine myself, as an adult, waking up every morning with nobody. I want a guy that i can share my life with..who understands me...and in my eyes, is the perfect man.
Spirited Away
Feb 28 2005, 08:09 PM
QUOTE(Despise @ Feb 28 2005, 12:12 AM)
So, yes...technically you CAN live without love.Sure, but then you'd have a very short, meaningless life.
EmmalieV
Feb 28 2005, 08:11 PM
nop , i dont think so.
starlette
Feb 28 2005, 08:16 PM
I don't really think anyone truly lives without love. I mean, I love drawing. I love my friends. I love my kitties. Shoot, I love all kitties. I love dancing. i love singing. everyone has one little thing they are passionate about. Even if its just living. Some people just love to be alive. Its still a love. So in that sense, I'd have to say no.
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At the same time, if we mean love to or from another person, then its entirely possible. There are people who have had their entire family and friend turn their backs on them. So then you are without people love. Some would go searchin for it, some would feel they are better off alone. And they may be right. Also, there are those who may live without experiencing love at all. Who maybe were born out in the middle of nowhere and their parents died. Who knows. But they may be all alone and self sufficient and never really experience the love of another. So it depends.
QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Feb 28 2005, 12:16 AM)
it depends on what kind of love. if it's the love you get from your family, you can't live without it. if it's the kind you get from somone else, you can, but never want to.
And thats not really true. None of my family loves my mother. Before I was born she was turned away and cast out upon, because they are all a bunch of Over Christian hyporcritcal judmental people, and looked down upon my mom for having sex before marriage, and cuz she had a drug problem, and instead of like what a family should do, which is love and support poeple thru their hard times, my family prefers to turn its back and those they feel are beneath them. bUt she lived fine on her own (aka without family, not without friends) for years before I was born. now Lord knows, I love my mom, and she knows that, and her life is so much better now that I'm a part of it, but still, she survived, and it made her stronger.
picaso_smile
Feb 28 2005, 08:17 PM
You can breathe, you can move, you can eat and carry out your daily routine, but I don't consider that really living. Without love you have nothing to live for, whether it's love for a person, a pet, a hobby, a posession etc.
You need love to live, but not to exist.
avalon*
Feb 28 2005, 08:19 PM
i can't. i know that if i didn't know God's love, i'd be in a disastrous situation right now. i believe that because God loves me, i, in turn, can love other people around me =] and yeah, i definitely love doing things too such as vectoring, and i LOVE snow.
Nashvixen
Mar 5 2005, 12:19 PM
QUOTE(caytexo @ Feb 28 2005, 8:09 AM)
no i cannot. right now im single, but ive been so lonely lately...i really want a boyfriend. i cant imagine myself, as an adult, waking up every morning with nobody. I want a guy that i can share my life with..who understands me...and in my eyes, is the perfect man.
Loneliness is not being "unliving." Everyone at some point or another has lost someone close and feels that way. But
life still goes on.
Plus, there's no such thing as the perfect man (or perfect somebody at all for that matter). Even if he seems perfect in your eyes, he'll probably have some flaws you could live without. But imperfect is okay.
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Feb 28 2005, 9:09 PM)
Sure, but then you'd have a very short, meaningless life.
Living without love doesn't shorten your life span...lol.
And if you're talking about love from another person, I think you can live without that. There are other sources of substantial love.
QUOTE(karamelle @ Feb 28 2005, 9:16 PM)
At the same time, if we mean love to or from another person, then its entirely possible. There are people who have had their entire family and friend turn their backs on them. So then you are without people love. Some would go searchin for it, some would feel they are better off alone. And they may be right. Also, there are those who may live without experiencing love at all. Who maybe were born out in the middle of nowhere and their parents died. Who knows. But they may be all alone and self sufficient and never really experience the love of another. So it depends.And thats not really true. None of my family loves my mother. Before I was born she was turned away and cast out upon, because they are all a bunch of Over Christian hyporcritcal judmental people, and looked down upon my mom for having sex before marriage, and cuz she had a drug problem, and instead of like what a family should do, which is love and support poeple thru their hard times, my family prefers to turn its back and those they feel are beneath them. bUt she lived fine on her own (aka without family, not without friends) for years before I was born. now Lord knows, I love my mom, and she knows that, and her life is so much better now that I'm a part of it, but still, she survived, and it made her stronger.
I agree with you.
QUOTE(picaso_smile @ Feb 28 2005, 9:17 PM)
You can breathe, you can move, you can eat and carry out your daily routine, but I don't consider that really living. Without love you have nothing to live for, whether it's love for a person, a pet, a hobby, a posession etc.
You need love to live, but not to exist.
I couldn't have said it better! You don't need love to exist, but to live you do! But still you do not need "people love" to live.
heyyfrankie
Mar 5 2005, 02:57 PM
according to your defintion, yes, everyone can live without love. but if you are all alone in the world and NO ONE loves you, you will probably get depressed and kill yourself or block yourself away from the whole world.
Spirited Away
Mar 5 2005, 11:29 PM
QUOTE(karamelle @ Feb 28 2005, 8:16 PM)
And thats not really true. None of my family loves my mother. Before I was born she was turned away and cast out upon, because they are all a bunch of Over Christian hyporcritcal judmental people, and looked down upon my mom for having sex before marriage, and cuz she had a drug problem, and instead of like what a family should do, which is love and support poeple thru their hard times, my family prefers to turn its back and those they feel are beneath them. bUt she lived fine on her own (aka without family, not without friends) for years before I was born. now Lord knows, I love my mom, and she knows that, and her life is so much better now that I'm a part of it, but still, she survived, and it made her stronger.
Though I don't believe in the way of life that your mother chose, I believe her to be a wonderful human being. It is an incredible thing your mother has accomplished... though I'm sure you don't need me to tell you that.
QUOTE(thesillyme @ Mar 5 2005, 12:19 PM )
Loneliness is not being "unliving." Everyone at some point or another has lost someone close and feels that way. But life still goes on.
If loneliness is not "unliving", then what is living? Is breathing, eating, taking showers truly living?
Can anyone truly know how to live, without ever knowing love?
If so, what is a
good life and what is an
easy life? Just good and easy breathing? Just good and easy existence?
QUOTE
Living without love doesn't shorten your life span...lol.
Wanna bet? It has been proven otherwise.
I'll give you a heads up: read on behavioral psychology experiments.
It may not be the case with all human beings, but for the most of us, it is true.
QUOTE
And if you're talking about love from another person, I think you can live without that. There are other sources of substantial love.
I've already explained:
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Feb 27 2005, 10:02 PM )
... Life allows love to exist foremost, therefore, life itself is the reason to live.
But for the rest that's why I said it depends on perspective. For some, in life, they find love; for others, in love they find life.
Love and hate are passions. If a person loves to hate, he/she still has passion.
If your goal in life is to exist, you most likely have passion for it.
njgurl412
Mar 5 2005, 11:44 PM
you cannot live with out love.. love is and always part of who we are. Love is like air it is all around us. If you have love, you would have trouble on describing the relationship between 2 loving people. Love stops people from deprestion. Even though sometimes it can cause drama, it can help in the end. Because love is endless through time and there is no stop to love.
stephinika
Mar 6 2005, 03:01 AM
physically - yes.
emotionally - not really, at least you wouldn't fully live. thats what i believe.
perfectxflaw23
Mar 6 2005, 11:04 AM
I truly cannot. I can't handle being alone. It just doesn't work. I wouldn't just automatically die without it, but I wouldn't be around very long. Emotionally I'd be dead right away.. physically I'd be dead in a few weeks.
Not knowing love is like not knowing how to breathe. Granted, you wouldn't die right away, but you wouldn't truely be alive. If no one loved you.. how could you go on? I'm not necessarily talking about JUST one kind of love when I say that. It could be anything. Love for a pet, a family member, a friend, a significant other.
kandiapplegrl
Mar 6 2005, 04:51 PM
I think that I wouldn't be able to live without love. Well, I know I could live, but put it this way: I'd definitely, definitely rather not.
xj_liana_tx
Mar 7 2005, 07:51 PM
no, love contributes to happiness, happiness sometimes bases on love, and happiness is the main point in life.
Teesa
Mar 7 2005, 08:25 PM
QUOTE(stephinika @ Mar 6 2005, 3:01 AM)
physically - yes.
emotionally - not really, at least you wouldn't fully live. thats what i believe.
yeah, that's what I think too. I don't know, I need it. Like with family, friends, etc.
angel-roh
Mar 15 2005, 11:29 AM
Yeah I can't live without Love too. Because when there's no one to love you, you felt like a loner and feeling like there's no one out there loving you and everyone is just going in their own independent sides... so yeah I would feel very lonely like I'm the only person who wants to get to know people.
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